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How is a forward deployed engineer different than a consulting firm? Or just a company representative? It feels like its just a bullshit term people are using to escape the stigma of consulting
Over 40 bros...
I should have had fun in my 20s
I should have had fun in my teens
I should have had sex with women in my teens
I have had some fun, kind of.
>>109195503>>109195505>>109195508>>109195516uncs need to log off
>>109195471>forward deployed engineergross
>>109195521You cannot do this to me.
>>1091955214chan doesn't have a log in and my internet hasn't required logging on/off since like 2002 or something
>>109195521Log off of life u mean
>recruiter from israel sent me a connection requestI'm not moving to fucking israel
I have a deep hatred of software tasks that take 10-25 seconds. It's just long enough to keep you waiting, but not long enough to let you get up and do other shit. If I ever program a user initiated task that can't run in the background and is in that nigger time spot, I intentionally slow it down by adding sleep statements and a progress bar.So even if the task finishes in 20 seconds I slow it down to 2:30s. Go get some coffee or do other shit.
>>109195629why not
>talking about recent movies I watched with coworkers>"That sounds like a really cool movie, anon. Where do you stream your movies?">I torrent them>they give me this lookSame shit happens when I mention emulating games or doing "obscure" computer stuffI feel like barely anyone in tech nowadays actually uses computers the way we did in early 2000s
Started a new job this week and I learned developers have no local admin access. Every single thing has to be requested, and it’s slowing me down considerably. Onboarding is already a huge PITA and the cherry on top is needing to create a ticket for every little thing I need.It took 2 days to get Homebrew installed on my Macbook, but come to find out I have to raise a ticket to install any package. Every ticket goes to India and they remote in and install with admin access. And I have not even scratched the surface for things I need installed. Every standup update this week was “waiting for IT ticket to be resolved” and at first I was thinking it was just me until a few people on my team told me they were not up and running for nearly 3 weeks when they started. What the hell!In my 8 YOE I’ve never worked for a company like this. It’s insanely frustrating. How is this a reasonable process for developers? Is this what bigger companies are like now?
>>109195884So you've only worked for small start ups?
>>109195944Nah you are larping, there is no way I need to go through IT to install node packages
>>109195856same anon, using it since the pentium days>torrent anything i find remotely interesting>always skeptical of anything that requires a license or subscription or the cloud or even AIall i know that deep down in my heart, the dumber the computer the better it is
>>109195884>Is this what bigger companies are like now?mostly, it's insane, but the worst part - more you'll stay the more you will get used to it. learned helplessness is a hell of a drug.
5YoE, FAANG.I guess I'm dealing with a sense of burnout. I'm really lacking the energy to do things. I don't know if it's a health issue, but I don't think it is. I eat well and I'm feel fairly fit and okay, but I'm just tired.With AI, I've started to expected myself to be more productive. When I'm not, and because my raw skills have atrophied, I often find myself stuck in an endless loop of wishful prompting. I've come to depend on AI so heavily that the costs of that dependence outweigh what I gain from itLately I've been finding myself stuck more and more often, which has definitely exacerbated this feeling.Anyone else in the same boat?
>>109195856Why are you revealing your power level? Just lie and say you're part of a family plan that has everything and it was one of the apps on a roku. Don't say emulating just say you were playing an old game and if they ask if you still have an old Nintendo just say yeah. If they're an epic gamer they'll follow up and you'll know. If not you gave them easy answers to digest without actual lying about your interests.
>>109196451Delete your social media accounts, uninstall youtube and get NewPipe. You're unironically getting mentally raped by short form content.You'll see the difference in just 1 week.
>>109196490 I stopped giving a shit about hiding my powerlevel years agoI just find it extremely disappointing that everyone in tech is such a turbo-normalfag
>>109196451>>109196507what's up with the reddit spacing. hello?
>>109196554Yes my experience as well. I mostly work with the extremely annoying millennial phenotypes. Worst is a bitch who is strict with times, constantly curses (but it gets tolerated since women), constantly blames. Then ofc she talks about her kids in high school... this women just turned 32. Amazing decision to make this cunt a product owner, not sure who she sucked off for that position.
>>109196451Yes. Pure dev with AI is just mindless prompting nowadays, testing and then fixing it or instructing the LLM to apply multiple fixes then test it again. If AI can not solve the problem or gets stuck in a loop of nonsense then I just don't want to do the task. The task will not be small since it typically involves 100-1000 lines of code and I need to take a very thorough look. I rarely solve easy problems anymore I just think of the prompt to ask, then copy pasta the 5-8 lines of code. > Did AI actually make you more productive? At the easier tasks yes. At very repetitive work where you're just copy pasting lines of code and adjusting small parts of it so you get a certain output, yes definitely. But it still sucks at harder problems, problems that involve processes or overall architecture and some technical problems it will just get into loops of giving you wrong answers. I did enjoy working in this field a lot more before it became all about AI LLM slop. I reckon it boosts overall output as a backend dev by like 30-40% though. Those 100-300% productivity claims are memes. Most of the problems you encounter are business problems, process problems or architecture problems. All of which AI is rather mediocre at besides delivering basic information on things.
>>109196557reddit website chuddie
I am le tired le bros.
>>109196451Yes. One thing I think is a matter of motivation, I know my code could be better if I paid more attention, I just take the easy route and give it to the AI too often.But the other thing is that AI really produces more code than can be understood deeply, so there will be some debt, even with perfect discipline (but less than without discipline)The other option would be to slow down, but my company wouldn't accept that.People also have zero respect for AI coding, not for the skill that's still required, nor the energy required. I get random messages to do stuff at night to stsrt some task with the reasoning that "lol, it's just a prompt, will take 5 minutes", but it never takes 5 minutes.
>>109196451IT infra fag from F100 here - 20 years of exp.I admitted to myself I'm burnt out about a year ago. It feels like : You wake up in the morning and unfortunetly you didn't die in the sleep so you have to go there for another day of pain and suffering.If you'll get one more extra thing to handle you will collapse, but you'll get it and you'll just postpone some other task that needs to be done.There is no feeling of accomplishment of anything. Just grind. Important problems are visible only to you, you can't do them and they force you attend conf calls with rajesh and middle aged women for something trivial and mostly pointless.You talk to your boss and he is in the same mood as you...How did it I get here? I used to love computers and solving problems. It's good pay I can't loose it because I may not find anything better...I gave up - put my resignation in and it felt awesome. I'm going to take 3 months of freedom...Took me 6 months just to enjoy playing with my homelab again. Here I am one year later and I'm going to start job hunting in September. I'm not sure what will happen, but I kept my sanity. I don't think I can work with Rajesh again so I may need avoid multi national corpos altogether.
What surprises me is that there's no board/thread that focuses on Cycling Gains. Indoor training/recovery/etc. desu 4chan in general is pretty bad for /fit/ advice though....and /g/ advice desu.
>>109197959Did everyone collectively quit simultaneously? I did as well in May. Modern enterprise software is a hellscape.
>>109197959>I'm not sure what will happen, but I kept my sanity.Don't worry, you'll lose that when you start job hunting.
>>109195856It's even oldfags from the olden days... convenience/laziness masked as virtue. they either pay subscription or gave up any digital soverenity they ever had. they look at me like I'm some stoneage person because I don't use 8 websites everyne does. >torrent stuff>use xmpp for for chat.>shitpost on 4chin.>keep forgeting my stupid phone at home.>use systemd free linux instead of appleanon do you hunt mammoths in your spare time?No, but I have 7 chickens for egg-laying and taking care of my kitchen scrap.
>>109197909>Candidate Rejected. Reason: Gave me the ick. >Reason for ick: Did not have infinite energy >Regards, Samantha
job huting stats from june:>150 applications>7 interviews with hr>advanced to 1 technical interview >0 jobsBackground:Almost 10 years of experience in enterprise java cloud stack (cicd, springboot, quarkus, aws, kafka, k8, db2, mysql).Things that in theory could have a been differentitator but i never saw people give a shit about:>experience with db2, query optm, hot paths, fixing batches >experience with batch scheduling, cron, managment of jobs in autosys and so >having worked at large companies>all the time i wasted learning JVM internals, tunning, multithreading, how to use profiling >experience with SRE tools that chatgpt says it is a high in demand thing, like knowing distributed tracing, doing OT configs, creating and using perf dashboards, experience with dyna and splunkThis month im trying to go for fullstack jobs because focusing on backend in a total meme. I could try learning graphq and golang and try to apply to ecomm companies but i dont feel like it will work.I have experience with angular and could learn react too but my motivation is zero. Dont even know what people want anymore after AI.
>>109198209>10 YOE>150 applications>0 jobsWhy do you people do this to yourselves? Stop trying to get into massive companies in tech shitholes like Bay Area, the extra salary will evaporate into cost of living (especially rent) anyway. I sent 10 applications, proceeded to interviews in 3, and 1 offer out of those.
>>109198019kek, maybe. I came to conclusion I don't really want overwhelming responsibility anymore.I don't want to be the one they call when they need someone to save the world.I envied incompetent mostly useless people dicking around, pretending to be useful.I'll take junior/mid jobs, L2 support or something. I don't have debt, don't really need to make that much to be OK.Maybe I'm naive, time will tel.
>>109198260First, i dont live in USA and i apply via linkedin to all kinds of companies, as long as the job requires my stack but its been 3 months of nothing. Due to my history, i tend to be called by the HR of very large companies. It is not like im constatly rejecting offers from startups and smaller comps. But they just dont interview me, even if i apply to a lot of them.Mostly of time i just talk to HR time wasters. Also i try to show my pluses but nobody gives a shit as i said. My last technical interview i was talking about these perf optimizations i had previously worked with like refactoring parallel request or server threading improvs but the guy clearly didnt give a shit about. BTW i believe he rejected me because i told that for a system handling couple thousands requests a day moving to hexagonal arch is a meme and waste of time. But yeah, for some reason in java you often find these hexagonal evangelists trying to solve this shit even to a simple crud internal app.
>third worlder>work in public company for the government>everything is always urgent>tech stack is all fucked up>mostly legacy stuff that private companies developed but couldn't maintain>I alone handle 3 systems used by millions (except the infra and network) that can't ever stop>not really a cracked dev, I just put out fires and eventually get new features done and shippedI don't think I will make it to a good job abroad. I don't think the skills are transferable.>yeah google, I can endure 6 months of spec meetings with the most annoying and lazy of public servants and work on legacy bullshit without (barely) kms
>>109198370I'd be happy for 100k usd, I make around 10k locally.
>>109195464i no longer post in these threads.
>came up with a 3 state top down dp solution to the hard question in today's biweekly contestI'm getting good
Had an mtu issue the other day. Never seen it happen before but was dropping packets at 1480 bytes and making things act super strangely.
>>109195884Just enjoy being paid to do nothing what's the matter with you? I love tickets
>>1091979774chan is shit for anything actually productive. The ephemeral nature of discussion here makes it completely retarded.Use this general as an example: some people put a lot of effort in collecting links to put in the OP, and then some retard decides to maliciously remove them all because... Reasons (maybe trolling or whatever). Then the thread is filled with stupid questions from unemployed or tech illiterate retards. And this happens over and over.No sane person would endure this retarded, malicious campaign.
>>109198976the employed retards are terrible too
>>109198999Sure. Only the stubborn and the retarded would stay here. And that includes me.
>>109198960Can you explain?
>>109195884Just make a docker image for everything IT niggers can't complain about that right
do you check the leadership page of any company you are considering switching to? To check racial stats
how can china build this without a billion indians?
>>109199434The power of dialectical materialism is stronger than the power of the atom bomb
>>109199434>Goyslop, China
>>109199460post your food
How do I know if I got the new job or not?
>>109196451Yes. Alcohol helps.
I scored low 1000s / 39k in today's biweekly contestMy time ended up being over 1h 30s because of 3 incorrect submissions, but I managed to clear all questions (fuck q3 btw)
I'm working on an app that will let users upload photos that get seen by other users. I'm trying to figure out CSAM detection and it seems I'd have to apply to either Google or Microsoft to get access to their endpoints for checking hashes against known material. Do people just not bother with this? There are infinite apps that let users upload pics to their S3, there's no way they all comply with this??
>>109199668lmao you should worry about that later when you actually have usersgo take a look at the sharty, they had manual moderation for years
>>109198960Gonna need some more details. Is this on the cloud or your own equipment?
>>109199647How's the hrt going
>>109199828>tranny tranny jeet tranny jeetI'm not a troon or a jeetchuds are insufferable
>>109199840Well maybe if you stopped avatarfagging as a woman people would stop thinking that
>>109199851anime females have nothing to do with indians and I still get called a jeet
>>109199859I didn't call you a jeet, I called you a tranny, tranny. Strawmanning is another troon trait
How to learn to code "correctly" considering books teach the syntax and college teaches "algorithmic (((thinking))).How to learn how to code without stuff like if (strcmp(input, "secret") == 0)
if (strcmp(input, "secret") == 0)
>>109200048>How to learn to code "correctly"what does this even mean
>>109200056Basically knowing how to avoid basic pitfalls like in the example I gave.
>>109200105
>>109200116If only... I would know what exactly I need, then maybe I wouldn't need to learn.
>>109200105what's wrong about the example?
>>109200137It gives the password away in plaintext.Literally the dumbest possible thing in anything that goes into prod.
>>109200181idk use your head and load the secret as a variable from the environment config?
>>1092001811. if it is a web server then it doesn't matter 2. when storing passwords you gotta use salt + hashing (preferably strong) so that leaked DB doesn't let hackers steal them, but at the same time set rate limits (cause it's easy to ddos api points that hash inputs with e.g. argon2)3. usually you don't store your passwords hardcoded like this anyway (you should have a config or something)4. if it is a binary that has to be run on a local pc then nothing can save you from hackers, but you can try to use some obfuscation (e.g. xor'ing strings). though it's meaningless if you don't use powerful anti-analysis tools (I have some experience with re)if you need to learn about security then read something about it. but I learned most of those things from talking to other devs
>>109200198And that'd work only for backend apps. And env is even less secure, and still would use comparison.I'm asking how to learn real coding practices.
>>109200233what are you even talking about retard>frontend app>store the api keys in a secret.config>dont fucking upload it to github>need to auth a user? all done in the backend, send back an auth token>backend app>store api keys in a secret.config>dont fucking upload it to github>need to auth a user? retrieve their password from the db
>>109198960that's common, not all links can transfer large packets - think vpns, dsl.etc.. pmtu discovery works properly only if L3 devices can talk to each other over icmp which is rare af these days because they are internally adressed, private links.. icmp is dropped at FW level. DF bit is set very often (fuck you MS) so fragmentation is not going to happen.MSS clamping is usually the solution at FW or loadbalancer lvl.
>>109199203>>109199812Was a tls fiber like between two campuses we had a telco set up. I had a managed switch connected to the firewall at the main campus. It showed connection and then the internet was behaving weirdly at that site. Like speed testing was sometimes working with it hanging before the site would load often, feeling sluggish but then testing well when the tests would actually run. Finally figured it out and called the telco we had set up the tls and they were like oh fuck yeah we did it wrong and then resolved the issue by changing the mtu.
>>109195856Because it’s illegal. Just say you watch them on 4k discs. They also don’t know what a torrent is
so how am I supposed to pay off my student loans if my degree doesn't get me a job
>>109200644Herpes
Should I get this certificate in cyber security? I think I can afford $105.
>>109200644Sorry you were born in the wrong country at the wrong time. You're not supposed to enjoy life anymore, you're just supposed to toil, suffer, and perish to ensure the rich get to enjoy their extravagant lifestyle another few years before it all collapses in on itself.
wondered this for a while- why and how are cybersecurity jobs gatekept?
>>109198976links liek leetcode and linkedin and linus tech tipskill yourself bitch ass faggot
>>109201478Hawaii horrible place. Same with Jap girls thinking of Guam in the same light. It's pretty shit to be in either locations.
>>109201127>whymoney>hownepotism
>>109201478do you guys think she's ,,a hot girl''
>>109195464>first ever tech job: network engineering position>'sell' myself in interview according to company values>'i love to jump into things in order to learn' etc>get job>get 1 month training. other juniors get 4>training is slop videos: don't sexually harass people, diversity etc>manager puts me in 12 hour oncall >on paper this is the most important role in the department. one person does it at a time.>documentation is as you'd expect>mentor doesn't mentor me. everyone ignores me>tell manager i'm not on track to being proficient on time>he tells me to ask more questions >become annoying question guy>5 months in i am shit at my job and all the seniors hate me>quitthoughts?
>>109201820you had something else lined up before quitting, right?
>>109195884Literally my situation.
>>109201841no. all my time was spent trying to navigate this scenario. i was mindfucked and stressed and then i quit. now i am a beached whale.i'm not even sure if i would have been able to get something else lined up in time.
>>109195884Yes. Locked down macbook is the megacorp experience. I'm curious. Did their system offer you a choice between windows and then your manager pressured you into switching to a Macbook?
after months of looking I finally found a role that seems semi relevant. It is a CRM Data Coordinator where a big part of the job would be cleaning data and making sure its correct, lots of excel and some SQL. The salary is 50k plus benefits and bonuses. It would be a new role for the company and the CTO mentioned that there could room to grow, but that the start would be a lot of data entry. He also mentioned that a recent IT Support guy was able to transition within to SWE. My goals are to get to data analyst, business analyst, or data engineering - something like that. The role is hybrid and every other friday is off so I do think Ill have enough time to self study if I need to. At first I was excited, but now I feel like I messed up idk.
>>109201860More like a benchod whale
>>109202005is this just because it's an IT role, or do I actually seem like an indian?
>>10920199950k/m is insaneCongrats dude
>>10920237910 years of experience. everything else gets looked at afterwards.
>>109198401>>109198370Brazil?I would try to lower your expectations, U$100k/year is top 0.1% salary for people living in our country and basically unachievable unless you move to the US.t. 15 yoe, I'm in a manager position now and have access to how much the brazilians in our company earn and it's like 1 guy out of 200 that actually earns U$100k/year, most of them earn like $30-60k year
>>109202391>sarr I have 10 year of experience
>>109200698That course looks better than the answers to >>109200048It's obvious that the literal codemonkeys struggle with secure coding practices.
>>109202397make fake resume and try it
>>109202005>>109202397Is this some retard trying to bump the thread, or is /g/ degenerating?
>>109200402oh that's not as interesting. I work in designing the switches themselves and have had HW issues before with MTU, but this is just a configuration thing
>>109202451Both. The whole internet is dying.The economy is virtual, and we're facing collapse or crisis.
>>109195521how old is unc territory
I give upwhat the fuck is this weekly contestevery question is worse than the lastI could only solve 2 questions this time for 8/19 points>q2 is some subsequence bullshit (lcs dp doesn't work and you can't brute force it either)>q3 is some aids kadane + math (took me 45 minutes to figure out)>q4 somehow you need to calculate all of the palindromes in a 500,000 integer array in one passand I was able to AK the biweekly contest this morningmaybe I deserve to be stuck in helpdesk
>>109202731use ai
>>109195481Aren't you too old to be posting fucking slop, you absolute disgrace?
>>109195516I had fun once, and it was terrible.
>>109202877My German managers at a German-Dutch company once forced my to ask a GP for a doctor's note, even though I was fully legally based in the Netherlands. Never saw a Dutch GP be as serious as when that GP told me I must sue my employer. I unfortunately was too unwell at the time to seek legal help, so I didn't sue them, but the German manager surely asked for legal advice in the meantime, cause he backtracked and apologized.
>>109195464I don't understand this lingo and that's why I'm underemployed.Not because I don't understand the jargon, mind, it's because this way of thinking is anathematic to people who just want to do logic for pay.
>>109202875When you get older you stop caring what others think zoom zoom
>>109202887I'm almost 75% sure I read this post on reddit before.
>>109202898Maybe have some self respect then, you retarded old shit. Posting slop should make you feel like a waste of life.
>>109199434Chinese can't even get pancakes right, how can we trust their robots?
>>109202906It doesn't, did you not just read my post? Being older won't make you literate, so no luck for you
>>109196183My wife works for a big corp (not as a programmer but data wrangling) and is always complaining about dealing with IT delays and administrative bullshit. But every time I offer to show her to do something herself or even offer to make a tool for her she retreats into IT speak about security and system integrity. Some people like having problems to complain about more than they like solving them.
>>109202931Reminds me how this piece of shit girl in my CS program who constantly bullied me ended up becoming a middle manager getting a fortune in a F500, fucking bitch.
>boomers control a company>boomers hire stacies>stacies hire other stacies and jeets>jeets hire jeets>within two decades the entire company is an abomination of stacyjeetsthanks boomers
>>109202952>F500is this supposed to be impressive? Like honestly how shitty are you if you can't get into one of 500 companies
>>109202952How did she bully you anon? Like stealing your lunch money/homework or stalking you to tell you how not interested she wasI didn't go to college so I'm always fascinated and confused by stories like this
>>109202995NTA, and wasn't bullied, but I studied among women who didn't seem interested in technology, and certainly weren't good at any of it, yet still got into the industry and up the ladder very quickly just by being social.>Female A failed crypto, got back grades in programming and networking classes, dropped out and is now senior x.>Female B had no idea that 'intro to comp sci' would have programming in it, struggled with writing basic conditions, needed help understanding networking stuff, take photo of laptop screen with phone instead of sending screen shots type person, completed the degree and is now senior xdesu it's not really just a female thing. i have stories about know-nothing guys making their way into the industry too.
>>109203063>back gradesi meant to write bad grades*also forgot to mention both had boyfriends who were already either making it or successful in the field.
>>109203063>desu it's not really just a female thingit is absolutely a female thing
>>109201958>Yes. Locked down macbook is the megacorp experience.Lmao, not. worked in multiple FAANGs
>>109203096you might be right. i was going to give examples of guys i knew, but their linkedins are either non existant, or completely empty.when I knew them, they all had jobs despite having virtually no skills.
>>109200698Why though? You will still be unemployable.
>>109203136Ok, chad. I'm sure you get a lot more freedom when you're so established in the industry that you're moving from FAANG to FAANG company.My manager pressured me to change my windows laptop to a Macbook during onboarding at AWS because it's what everyone else on the team used, and it was very locked down and aids.
>>109202731Shut up, furfaggot
>>109195464none of those words are in the bible
>>109195464What goes through minds of people who post such slop?
>>109203363hope you don't wear mixed fabrics, christcuck
>>109203515I mixed your mom's fabrics just last night
>>109203521very christpilled post, you just earned 1 jesus point
>>109203523did some priest tell you to stop being a sperg once or something?
>>109203536no but thanks for the free psychoanalysis dr freud
>>109203549sure here's another one, you seem like an annoying fag
>>109202993For non-americans it's like 100x harder to get into a fortune 500 company
>>109203562another christpilled post and another jesus point for you
>>109203573I haven't gone to church since I was seven. Your edgy atheism is cool though I guess
>>109195521Lots of people think you just get old and suddenly become "mature" and stop posting online, playing video games or whatever.You don't just wake up with a new personality. You have to cultivate that shit. If you think you're going to stop using the internet or whatever when you turn 30 or 40 you have to start cutting back now. Otherwise you're just going to keep doing all the things you think you'll stop.It's all performative though. There's no reason to stop any of that if you still enjoy it and can find the time for it. And you care less about this kind of performative maturity as you get older if you ACTUALLY mature, because you care less about what other people think. You have a very immature understanding of maturity.
>>109203063im angry
>>109203815unc crashing out
>>109196490Imagine being this much of an insecure faggot holy heck
>>109195521>come to website using a format older than AOL>try to kick out uncslolGB2 tiktok
>during my recruitment I was promised "steady advancement path">management wants me to keep on my current position, payment is not exactly low but low for a tech job and the area>and now my biggest gripe: I'm considered so good that I'm left alone with everything including all the shift wrangling with managers and other teams or even suppliersTbh it doesn't feel worth it anymore. Everyone else is backed by manager or even gets support, and gets assigned prestigious projects they get to show to directors and I'm alone fighting for completion of projects and niche advanced stuff in a f500's forsaken team that's 1 more tarrif from collapsing.
>>109204047
>>109202395Yes. Hell, it's stable but....I'd be happy for 30-60k USD.
>CEO started referring himself as a developer after two weeks of vibecoding bullshit
>>1092023791,250 commits per year are obviously going to be nothing special, probably (in)correcting readmesCandidate A obviously respects himself enough to not give his work away for free
What can I expect in a Software QA role?
>>109205002I'm a staff level QA and here is more or less what the field looks like right now:>Company mandates AI usage>Management demands AI be used to implement TDD and/or replicate Google's automation CI/CD coverage>Use agentic AI to write manual test cases>Use agentic AI to write automation test cases in playwright or seleniumNone of that is really ideal because you'll never have adequate requirements with which to provide your agent to derive anything useful, so you're left with a lot of borderline slop used to validate the company's MVP just in time for whatever quarterly meetings the suits have.QA is really messy right now because quality builds over time, but the entire corporate world is anti-time and therefore you're stuck walking a really shitty tightrope.Try your best not to make your software engineers hate you. You'll fail, but you still need to try.
>>109204864ours is going back to 'founder mode'
>>109204864funny the company that hired me as tech lead did something similar>operated for a decade old school, no software>CEO goes big on vibe coding>Makes 5 apps and starts selling them>Actually making big profits>But realizes he can't manage them with vibing alone>Hires meI'm so happy I embraced AI instead of becoming one of those retards who thinks it's a hoax. Never had so much power and pay before.
>>109205118Hm, I was a software engineer albeit at a smaller company where I had to do my own QA, the market has made me explore other options.
>>109205145You can be a real developer and embrace AI use to increase productivity without making your systems unmaintainable.
>>109205177Having devs do their own qa is really inefficient for the dev because both fields require significantly different cognitive loads. It's a nightmare to balance in an agile company.Dev teams should be encouraged to write unit tests and some integration tests which logically fit within the repo.The value add of QA is most visible when they can perform exploratory testing with the product along with building durable end to end automation. Both of those things are significantly out of scope for a typical software engineer and would only slow down the delivery schedule.
>>109202896It's alpha generation's nigger speech. Zoomers have one, Millenials had one, Xiggers had one too.I don't know if baby boomers had one thought.
>>109205224Oh I know, testing was always something that fell to the wayside when time pressure was about (which was always)>Does it do what it's intended to do? Yes. Does it handle the unexpected? Fuck knows, ship it anywayI'm just wondering if I'm going to have a tolerable role or a crap sandwich of being piggy in the middle between stakeholders and dev teams.
>>109205250>Millenials had oneFo sho! Wassup ma nigga?>I don't know if baby boomers had one thoughBoomers had beatniks, which came from jews aping blacks
>>109205328It really makes you think.
>>109205145>>Makes 5 apps and starts selling them>>Actually making big profitsWhich 5 apps?
>>109205224I highly disagree atp. The dev already has to do QA and requirements gathering during the course of their work. Nothing is ever completely specced for them. By the time the dev is nearing task completion they have maximal context. This is where it gets annoying. There is a handoff to QA and you restart the process of understanding the task, ramping up context, going through testing progressions, and it frequently CONTINUES to involve the dev rather than freeing them up to move on to other work. In many ways you double the time spent agonizing over the ask, what's broken and what isn't.Within individual teams, engineers/devs should be expected to do their own QA. With that said we do a poor job of training devs to do QA. They should learn to battle test their work better and agonize themselves over not introducing regressions into a system or incomplete work. Now that the pace of coding is far quicker thanks to AI, devs have more time to do QA and should learn to do so better. Further organizations need to start taking regressions and bugs more seriously and holding devs accountable when they introduce them, this will result in better thorough work.My ideal org would have engineers that think more like a user and do better QA, write better automated tests. You could then have dedicated testing/QA teams that operate exclusively within staging and use the system like beta testers, looking for regressions and formulating potential improvements.
>>109205328>Millenials had one>Fo sho! Wassup ma nigga?You mean niggers.
next op?
>>109201820Ask claude your stupid questions instead. Last job I onboarded myself pretty quick just by having claude grep around the codebase for me and being like wtf this do wtf this for.
>>109202379Obviously candidate A. Is this guy living in la-la land thinking his personal project matters more than real experience? A cool github project is a cherry on top that puts you ahead of another guy with equal experience, not a replacement for it.
>hired a year ago as Worker>workplace has hierarchy>1 Manager>1 Supervisors>20 Workers>told that supervisor retiring in two years and id be given the position>trained on her position>everyone knows im being given supervisor position>supervisor hires her friend>over the past six months, has trained her on everything for her position and beyond what she has trained me>has started giving her her shifts>try to talk to Manager, she's friends with Supervisor and won't even listen to me>only person above Manager is the owner, who doesn't show up and doesn't care about anythingguess i just need to find a new job, i don't know what else i can do
>>109205250>I don't know if baby boomers had one thought."Cool" is n*ggerspeak btw. Whites have been aping n*ggers since the days of jazz (n*gger word for cum) and rock (n*gger word for sex)
Maybe it is time for a job change...
>>109205118>>109205224I can't wait until you fakes get replaced by ai. >>109205002You should do something else. Qa is a junk roll for tech illiterate boomers.
>>109205435this is satire right?
I know I should be grateful for a 200k+ salary swe job in this economy, but I feel resentful because I feel like I should have been promoted faster and I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots
>>109205730It's one of a million scammers trying to trick stupid investors and it works.
>>109206200>I should be grateful>in this economyDumb slave mindset. You've been tricking into being GRATEFUL for getting a fraction of what you could be worth.
>>109205435what exactly is his wife gonna do during the fitness bootcamp with her private trainer?
>>109206592>This post has been sponsored by Robin hood Investment company and Polymarket
>>109206298cardio
>>109195471it's just consulting with a slop cannon prototype cherry on top
>>109202379Aemployed people aren't spending their time making junk commits to OSS
>>109206200As a general rule your salary is 25% of the actual value you generate for a company.Change your mindset from "grateful" to "how can I secure more of my surplus value?"
>>109195856Just say stremio whether that's true or not doesn't matter. It's close enough to the truth (torrent cache) that you can confidently say it without appearing like an obvious lie.
>>109206592>blue tick posting xitters for a living lying about incomeShe's right.
>>109202391>>109204980>>109205594>>109206947boomers are a plagueThe correct answer is B.A:>doesnt give a shit about the job or programming>spent the last 4 years vibe coding some shit bean counter software>won't do overtime and will leave as soon as he gets a better offerB:>desperately needs the job>actually loves programming>will learn anything and everything you need him to>will put in 50-60 hours a week>wont risk switching and getting laid off after 3 months in this market
>>109205345The ones in his head.
>>109206635True but women HATE happy men.
>>109195884complete opposite situation, there's technically a legal compliance process but we just had a department meeting where we were informed 90% of the libraries used in our flagship product isnt approved by legal
Started school in 2021, still haven't graduated and projected to graduate fall of 2027 double major in CS and Data science and minor in Mathematics. I feel so cooked and it sucks so much, first two years I literally wasted taking a bunch of useless classes and dropped a fucking semester off.
>>109207082>You wouldn't hire me because all my commits are defense projects?Correct
>>109207089fuck you benchod
>>109207089You aren't even a manager you've never hired anyone in your life you fucking faggot. Kill yourself.
>>109207096I wouldn't hire you because you clearly don't give a shit about programming and only want money. Otherwise why would you be working at some beauracratic do nothing job? I'll gladly give the junior that actually enjoys building software a chance instead of some piece of shit boomer. And my company will be better off for it.
>>109207089You couldn't afford anyone other than a jeet you lying sack of shit. LMAO
>>109207117there are thousands of newgrads in this market willing and eager to learn anything you need them to. Why wouldn't I invest in them instead of picking up some calcified unc that wants to sit around and do nothing for 8 hours?
It's very jarring when you realize that all of these 35+ year old pieces of shit think they're owed a job because they were born earlier and have sat around doing nothing for decades. Give them even a taste of the zoomer experience and tell them they have to earn it and they'll flip out and start shitting themselves.
I don't know where to ask this question, so I'm asking it here:How do you bypass word censors on xitter? Invisible characters used to work, but they don't work reliably anymore.Similarly, is there a way to ensure that your reply doesn't get marked as spam for using certain images or phrases?
>>109207194I don't use faggoter and I suggest you don't either
>>109200504Weed is also illegal yet normalfags at work can't stop talking about it
>>109207205I don't use it all that much either, but I want to understand its mechanics.Seeing other faggots writing slurs while I'm stuck sitting in my cuck chair just watching pisses me off.
>>109207082You work in defense. You're coding for maybe 2 hours a day, if even that. If you cared you would spend some of your copious idle free time to work on passion projects. You're not getting hired.
>>109207053A lot of projection here
>>109207222sounds like you are the outcast at work, bet they laugh at you behind your back
>>109207298I'm the manager, they hate me
>>109205687That's....interesting, anon. Time is a wheel.
>>109207134You will never be hired as a dev. Enjoy underemployment/unemployment forever.
>>109207561>Enjoy underemployment/unemployment foreverthanks wagie, I will :)
>>109207561the resentment that older generations have against zoomers is repulsive
>>109207621Likewise zoomers against so-called uncsAmericans have been throughly psyopped to hate each other
>>109207670>Americans have been throughly psyoppedNo actually it's completely justified and not a psyop. And it's not even the worst in America, the situation is much more dire in Europe. The older generations consistently keep voting for anti youth policies and scorn them while the young keep falling behind.
>>109207708So your reproach is that they aren't voting to make themselves poorer? Unlike you, an immensely altruistic person, right?
>>109200233Build stuff, simple as that.
>>109201478Entitled bitches, she's not even "hot"
>>109207163yeah, the script flipped: “experience” used to be the moat, but now it can be dead weight if it just means being attached to old workflows and refusing to adapt. younger devs who actually embrace ai, learn fast, and ship faster are becoming way more dangerous than people coasting on years served.
>>109201566>>109207759her "date" is another chinkoid
>>109207194>>109207205>>109207227kek. Just got my account suspended a few minutes ago for "inauthentic behaviors" after asking this question.I should've taken anon's advice. FUCK shitter.
>>109207730imagine if your dad is 70 and you're a 23 year old stuck in a shitty underemployment job, massively in debt, and instead of him helping you out with your debt he goes and finances another month long cruise.
>>109207809oh and just to make the example even more accurate, next month he raises your rent by $200
Managed to get lucky and land a deskside support role at a quant at 26. Besides bullshit certifications what should my next steps actually be?
>>109207809Your father had you at 50? And ok so this one is a bit of a cunt, what about the 100 million other fathers out there?
How do you approach customers offering your services in full stack engineering?Today I learned others do that and get hourly rates around 160 while I beg recruiters for 70...
Ever notice how all those retards taking 15 minutes to pump gas or parking their cars in the middle of the street at costco are all 50+ years old? Those are the same piece of shit boomers that have 15-20+ yoe and companies prefer to hire over newgrads. You would think that having more experience and years to learn how to do basic shit would make them efficient, but no. They're all retards. They can't even pump gas, and somehow companies expect them to build software. If you list 20 yoe on your resume and you haven't built some seriously impressive and industry defining products, I'm going to assume you're a retard and pick the new grad instead. If anything tech doesn't have enough ageism.
>>109207971say what you will but AI is nicer than humans
>>109208395
>>109208228It's more about trust than than your actual rate. You should never offer too low rate as that's a sign of desperation.
>>109208316it's illegal to pump your own gas in my state
>>109205118>Try your best not to make your software engineers hate youwhy would we hate you? at least when you do the QA, we don't have to
Which website did you use to find your job?
i got too drunk on a work night again
>>109207777when i applied to my current job they asked how much experience I had with windows XPit's honestly "some" and is now "not nearly enough". at places that aren't an SF startup trying to "move fast and break things" usually you have to work with older gear.
>>109208741what does the image mean
>>109208726>>109208741Shut the fuck up furry
>>109208745>you really expect me to support this skimpy outfit?>>109208777maybe later luckyman
I've been doing lets say generic backend/distributed systems and a bit of full stack for the better part of the last 10 years, last 5 at a fagman in a software team working on the backend infrastructure that powers their public cloud. I'm bored and stuck where I'm at and I wanna get out of here, but I'm having a hard time figuring out a good place to go where the work will be interesting and impactful. What do you guys think sounds coolThe domain I work in, in case it matters, is hardware/servers/data centers. Not that I consider myself an expert in these things or anything
Ah, staging is completely fucked, someone messed up big time. Will be a bad Monday.
>>109205118what is a QA team even for when a intern can just point Claude at a PR/repo
>>109209333claude can barely solve leetcode problems when the answers aren't online or build unit tests, good luck getting it to debug a 1m loc project
>>109209337Luddite copeyour work doesn't do anything complex
>>109209350>50% success rate at comparing 2 stringsl m a o
>>109209337>a googling bot is stealing my jobs
Good morning, it's Monday! >>109209312Sounds like a fun challenging task for the best day of week.
here's for another week of proompting, waiting, debugging then proompting again bwos
>>109209545>still prompting>his agents haven't completely automated his workflow yetyou're going to get replaced by a hypercompetent ruthless zoomer, unc
>>109209569grandma has never had to endure any hardship. Her ass stayed at home and complained about the neighbors grass and parking. She had it coming.
boomers be like>i fought for zog in the second brother warokay but have you ever been through 5 rounds of interviews for a $25/hr role
>>109209379>googlingthat would be an improvement over whatever this is
https://x.com/poojeetstreet/status/2073818223762653518
>>109210054That's Brazil, and they are speaking brazilian, stupid xitter I was hoping it was real
>>109209569boomers will see this and reply "thoughts & prayers for a speedy recovery <3 i hope that gym is getting sued"
>>109210054>>109210126It's not happening no matter how much you jerk off to your wish-fulfillment lies, cumskins. H-1B approval rates are up to 98% now.The easiest way to keep Indians out would've been to be smarter and more talented than them, but you're simply too low-IQ for that
>>109207053>will leave as soon as he gets a better offerwho wouldn't? retard
>>109210356real programmers don't switch jobs at all, most stay their whole careers into a single company
>>109210413The advantage of job hopping is that you can write crappy spaghetti code without needing to deal with the consequences.
>wfh>wear sissy cock cage>surprisingly productive because im not jerking off every 2 minutes>dont want to spend the time wearing it>use bands around my legs instead to give some measure of tightness>productivity increaseshuh
Happy monday saars kindly review ticket please
With new models getting released, especially fable 5, I have come to realised that some of the better frontier models, paired with anyone who knows how to use them, can beat 95% of SWEs who code manually. (And considering most of us are students/early careers, we definitely wont be in the 5% that AI cant replace anytime soon)Unless you are working on some extremely niche tech stack with minimal training data or otherwise, most frontier models can do almost everything swe related very decently. 90% of SWE jobs are mundane CRUD apps or otherwise and I feel its a matter of time before SWE experiences a heavy manpower crunch with less roles and more non technical people entering. (Ive already seen some big companies asking backend devs to do frontend and qa to write webapps, eliminating multiple roles)This got me thinking if it is time to start considering "insurance plans" like running side hustles or considering alternative backup career plans if everything goes down the drain. Been applying for non swe jobs occasionally to see if anything sticks. Anyone here have similar concerns and what are you doing?
>>109210566Fuck I got found out, I hop every 6 months
I ruminate every single day about my ex gf who stupidly left 2 years ago, and about my mom, who tried to steal money from me 6 Yeats age.I also want to leave my work.... I think all of this will drive me insane.What about you?
>>109210710why did you leave her?
>>109210710Currently going insane trying to get back with my ex and cried more in the past 3 days than i have in the past 10 years, will kill myself if it doesnt work out Oh tech work? Tech is dead and it’s as much of a torture machine as factory work. At least in a factory you dont report to jeets so it’s arguably better
Also, I learned to drive recently... And promptly crashed my car.And just bricked a laptop because I was too lazy to RTFM.I fucking hate myself. I wish someone else managed my life.>>109210712Cuz I'm stupid. I thought I'd be better off alone, but I'm too much of a neurotic coward to enjoy my life.I was getting tired of her, and she started having some weird episodes, which kinda scared me. After thinking for a long time, I realized she was scared of confronting me, of telling me her thoughts and stuff.>>109210726>Currently going insane trying to get back with my ex and cried more in the past 3 days than i have in the past 10 yearsThat sucks anon. I hope things work out for you.
>>109210760Have you tried contacting her?
>(I'm not the manager) interview three people for the position>brown>brown>brownI'm tired
>>109210845define brown
>>109210854jeet, muzz, muzz
>>109210726>factory work>stand most of the time>can't make mistakes because the machine doesn't stop for you>can only rest during scheduled breaks>supervisor forces you to QA pass failed products
>>109211052>dont make mistakes>have a good time>get a good core and posture for FREESounds great, or are you an error prone retard?
>>109211081So why aren't you applying to production lines anon?
>>109211093Gonna migrate out of my white genocide country and then work the conveyor belt while i live with my slav wife
>>109210859I only ever had one black dev corworker, and he was very nice, then again he was from some african country not american
>>109195464He's shitposting, right? Right?
>>109208316Not everyone is an expert in everything. 15-20yoe usually means you're knowledgeable enough about pretty much everything tech-related while new grads still think they can impress potential employers with their knowledge of design patterns implemented by Claude.
>>109210655You'd be an even more productive Rust dev if you wore thigh-highs and a skirt.
>Male recruiter reaches out by email>here's a questionnaire, are you legally allowed to work / whats a cool project youre working on / this job is in office only are you able to relocate / etc.>ok cool lets get you set up with an interview>Female recruiter reaches out by email>hi! quick call?>45 minutes asking me the same shit >er... ill let u know when we can schedule an interviewONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME BTW (sample size 13)
oh no, this past 3 day weekend did nothing to cure my burnout, who could have possibly seen this coming
>>109210783Multiple times, for which she probably hates me now. I fucked the whole thing up big time...
>>109212017take this incel shit to r9k
>>109205730Are you autistic? Of course it fucking is.
Quick call?
>>109212391good morning sir
>>109212417hi anon*goes completely silent until say "hi" back*
>>109209049why does she wear 4 (four) different bracelets on one arm?
>>109211625based
>last week of my 2 weeksOh boy I can't wait to be free
I'm not sure if my boss doesn't know I do nothing on my remote days or if he just doesn't care because I'm still outputting a lot regardless
>>109212321I answered a question, you fag
>>109212934benchod
AI has made people that can't even invert a binary tree far too comfortable with calling themselves "developers"
>>109210710I ruminate about the job offer I applied to and the job offer I got in return. The hints and suggestions of getting the position I wanted, just to get disappointed again since two years. Time to look for another job.
>>109213137Also kills my productivity
>>109213137>I ruminate about the job offer I applied to and the job offer I got in returnElaborate.Also, how is that shit not illegal?
Only took 162 applications at apple to get an interview for an actual iOS developer job
>>109213142>Elaborate.They offered 1 1/2 SWEs job and I got put intoTech support and QA, I still code - they didn't hire any other devs.I let that do that with myself because I was a NEET who wasted my life and degree.
>CEO is on a full blown AI fueled delirium>Proclamed himself as the lead developer of the new project>No documentation or PRD of any sort>He just vibe codes shit then wants us to test it, document it then use it as a base to build the actual product>Wait a couple of weeks until people have created some tickets>Use Claude to then check the codebase and existing tickets then create tickets for me>Do next to nothing for the whole week>CEO praises me for my dedication as the person with the most tickets createdThis is comedy gold
>300 linkedin easy apply applications (IT squad manager role)>4 interviews>3 of them I had to message the interviewer asking for an interview, 1 was a friend recommendationWhat's the point of easy apply?
How many of you social media stalk your female coworkers? How many of you jerk off to their pics?
>>109213220>How many of you jerk off to their pics?I actually jack off to them while on call.
Be gone, gooner (also women are way worse about social media stalking the people they work with)
>>109213047yet they can accomplish more than you
>>109213242They absolutely are its unreal. Its why you are always better off just not having it so HR stacy doesn't give you the ick.
>>109213195>>CEO is on a full blown AI fueled delirium>>Proclamed himself as the lead developer of the new projectdoes he have a tech background?
>>109213229Based Daniel https://youtu.be/V__GbBaIXPU?si=d_Wt10tDoFh3mfyg
>>109195464why dey wearin african prayer shawls
just got done with a teams interview where one of the panelists had a bong on a shelf behind them.they suddenly turned the camera off mid-interview then turned it back on and the angle was moved so the bong was no longer visiblethey were black btw
>>109213324sorry about that, mane
>>109213324sounds based
>>109213290No.
>>109213384its over
>>109213348well i guess they can be based in the breadline
new>>109213422>>109213422>>109213422>>109213422>>109213422
>>109195856I get the same look at my local synagogue when I tell them I /b/rowse
>>109200056It means following proper pythonic conventions, eg:if True: TrueFunc() else: if False: FalseCond1Func else: try: APICall(4chan dot org) except: timeout = 10 while True: timeout = timeout - 1 APICall(4chan dot org slash g) if timeout == 0: raise Ass()
if True: TrueFunc() else: if False: FalseCond1Func else: try: APICall(4chan dot org) except: timeout = 10 while True: timeout = timeout - 1 APICall(4chan dot org slash g) if timeout == 0: raise Ass()
