Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109202661https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>109204188saved by the gamer bros
They call it "zit" because the people who use it (not very many) are all pizza faced nerds, lmao
>>109204188what the hell is that thing
>>109204196>not very manykeep telling yourself that lilbro
local can't keep up with the scale of api. intelligence will be unified, not segmented. in 5 years all the top API models will be omnimodel with combined sight/hearing/gen capabilities in a giant 5T parameter model. local doesnt have anything multimodal and even basic distilled t2i shit can fill up vram.there is a global push towards towards making consumers own nothing. OS-level age checks, removal of physical media, fabricated gpu 'shortage', china abandoning local, etc. local hardware is being made intentionally obsolete and you'll need to fill out paperwork to own it in the future. already localjeets throw an absolute fit whenever a model larger than 6B gets released.the 4-year trend of increasing parameter counts coupled with complete consumer hardware stagnation had lead to local being dead in the water, an endless rehash of outdated text-to-image architectures, zero edit capabilities, and now built-in censorship.
^fuck offnow that I can gen GPT image 2 images locally, what good is a GPT sub? Get fucked sam cuckman
>>109204218>GPT image 2 images locallywho the fuck would want that slopped style though
>>109204218>all of the gpt-image-2 downsides like the always on gritty noise without the SOTA prompt understanding and adherencewhat is the point
>>109204218You have made it. You are now in the big leagues, son.
>>109204202Now compare the numbers of likes, retard.
>ZIT cucks are all openAI bots putting down Krea because it basically mogs cloud image gen by a milewont work on me
>>109204218it looks worse than gpt and isn't as smart.
>>109204274Yeah, its actually BETTER than GPT image 2, and is smarter - I dont think I'll ever use GPT outside of fringe edit tasks that klein can't handle
I wonder if I'm the only non-autist on 4chan.
>>109204199just had a little accident nothing serious chill out
>>109204218what causes all that unnecessary and distracting detail? looks like film grain but worse
Looking back, we should have stayed on SDXL. It was the last real open model and more important, he last open to the community model.
>>109204313GPT IMAGE KINO
>>109204301it actually does look better than gpt 2 because that weird angular pointillism effect that is baked into gpt 2 isn't as pronounced.
>>109204320Everything after that came with licensing restrictions, corporate hand wringing, and "safety" layers nobody asked for.
>>109204320We had something good and we let it slip through our fingers one new update at a time.
>>109204333Checked. Yeah, what I am guessing is that there's some underlying model that doesn't suck and the "krea" release is kind of like "new fable" (fake fable).Very tiresome.
>>109204313it's rocketbrown, he found his new thing
>>109204320>Looking back, we should have stayed on SDXLfor what reasonthe only progress possible is by re-training and if you're going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars why not use a more recent architecture, better text encoder and better VAE?
>>109204363its trani shitting up the thread, ignore
What are some reliable methods to check if an image is AI?
>>109204366your eyes?
>>109204366Using your own two eyes.
>>109204366the lack of soul in it
>>109204366The more image generators you use - the more your eyes adjust to the imperfections. So ironically, the best way to decipher whats AI and what isn't is to just use AI more.
>>109204370>>109204371>>109204373>>109204380But what if someone else wants to verify an image is there an online tool I can tell them to use?
>>109204390no, for it takes a soul to recognize a soul
>>109204363Because that's exactly why we don't have any real local models anymore, dumbass. If we stayed on SDXL and improved the VAE and text encoder instead of whoring ourselves out to FLUX and ZiT like a bunch of clout chasing sluts, we wouldn't be in this mess.
>>109204426>If we stayed on SDXL and improved the VAE and text encoderoh I see, you have no idea how any of this works, that explains it
I need a public domain song that sounds like a modern popular song.Then, I can demonstrate what I figured out.I can't post even snippets of copyright music, even altered, whatever. It's kind of funny, the rules are very strict.
>>109204426>If we stayed on SDXLit uses a deprecated architecture anon, DiT is the way to go now
>>109204430Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>109204444Sure, whatever helps YOU sleep at night.
>>109204440Okay, enjoy your slop. The Krea NSFW lora is just as slop tier as SDXL.
>>109204455you've successfully bridged the gap between hyperbole and retardation.
>>109204157>>109204438May as well state what you found with ace step because this model was pretty bad out of the gate. If you're making it salvageable for at least one purpose, then you may save it from the deleted folder.
>>109204430And do you know how it works? Come on, I'm waiting for your NSFW Krea lora or bypass node without breaking seeds or quality.
>>109204471WRONG.*spit*
>>109204475>And do you know how it works?yes>Come on, I'm waiting for your NSFW Krea lora or bypass node without breaking seeds or quality.this has no relation to SDXL's architecture
>>109204460Enjoy the censored slop then lol. If local models are as good as you say, with all these cool features, why are you still here arguing with me instead of using them?
it was bait all along?
>>109204482>this has no relation to SDXL's architecturebecause it's the retard having an 8-hour meltdown, lashing out at everything and everyone because nobody is using bigasp 3 or w/e
>>109204188Jews don't work on sabbath.
Drama incominghttps://github.com/Comfy-Org/comfy-quants/issues/8
>>109204488i've been fucking around with krea for a few days, can't say i've run into any censorship along the way. it's a pretty good model.
ace step is kind of like how boomers won't use film because of the grain lmao
>>109204188nice subtle touch with the braid.
>>109204500This will either bring ComfyOrg to its knees or be a nothingburger.
>>109204500>they created a repo specialized on quantsthen why don't those fuckers implement gguf already??
>>109204539int8-convrot killed ggufs
>>109204534glued on feet.It's not accurate, because with real bodies the bones of the human have to facilitate the lifting of the feet.So, krea 2 is a failure artistically but I think boomers will love it.It's for old people, who are ignorant, blind, and lack discernment, and like to eat foreign food.
>>109204555at best it killed Q8, but Q6, Q5 and Q4 are still on the game
>>109204557based take
what is that boomer yapping about
>>109204534nice gen, you made the brownoid schizo seethe
>>109204188the absolute state of local generation
>>109204557this is 100% true and real
>>109204218>>109204301>>109204331>>109204380These all have a really unappealing noise, is there anything you can prompt to push it away from that? Yuck!>>109204500Attribution is a pretty big deal in the ML community (even though it's all just math), he might get some hard looks from other ML nerds for brodying that work.
>>109204570Psychotic breakdown.
>>109204577I hate when models turn skirts into shorts at certain angles
>>109204534Slop
>>109204577the noise is part of the kino.... not that I would expect a PAP to know that...
>>109204590>PAP?
>>109204570The boomer is the one posting krea 2.The boomer thinks it looks good.Boomers can't distinguish between horrible cheesy ai and the real deal.Myself, I am something of bone enthusiast, and so, when I see a case where the bones don't fit, I'm rather miffed.
schizo meltie~
>>109204555Doesnt work with every model though, or at least it doesn't look like, whereas gguf has a conversion script that works with every model.
>>109204599you have the mind of a boomer
Trained my old XL SakuragiChisa on Krea2. The Left is Krea2, the middle is WAI-NSFW, the right is Krea2 + WAI. While it's true Krea2 does maintain the style better for the character, it's also feels very stiff and I cannot do the same things I could in XL no matter how I prompt it. Doing I2I with XL/Anima seems to work best, but only for SFW, as there's no good anime NSFW loras/finetunes available.
>>109204500> Drama incominghttps://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/issues/14735#issuecomment-4885694720
>>109204609>it's also feels very stiff and I cannot do the same things I could in XL no matter how I prompt it.because youre using an sdxl finetune trained on 8 million+ hentai images while krea has no finetune (and probably never will because RAW is dogshit and turbo is untunable)
>>109204599>myself, I am something of bone enthusiastNah, you like female feet, and you aren't posting slop AI feet for the sake of shilling whatever model. AI generated toes and sole patterns are trash too
i consider a gen good if it triggers someone to have a psychotic breakdown
------------------------|I generate racism||---------,-------------|______|________|we have fun........||---------,-------------|______|________| people join in......||------------------------|another success.
>>109204634There's also an app on steam that is garbageleg guys are foot guy adjacent.
>>109204628>while krea has no finetune (and probably never will because RAW is dogshit)sdxl was pretty shit until illustrious/noobai came along, so it's possible. but yeah, I doubt wai/noob will do anything with krea2 since anima seems good enough for most.
>>109204646>good enough for mostIt's boomer junk.Like go interview George Washington or whatever.
>>109204646Why are you always talking about the past? Those names don't exist in the local scene anymore. The enthusiasm isn't the same anymore, people aren't seeing results. BigASP was another big letdown in the scene.
>>109204646krea fundamentally can't be trained. people are missing this. the two models we have are krea raw and krea turbo. the missing model is krea medium, which was used to create turbo. 'training' krea means training the raw model, which is so undercooked, like z base but 100x worse.
>>109204500This is just rotation. It improves the precision slightly but it's not black magic or something what you should be otherwise interested in unless you are running smaller quants/less precision.llama.cpp implemented kv cache rotation first. They are using the same principles.
experimenting with ace step is really interesting. Sometimes it does something easily, then, at other times the seemingly same sort of thing doesn't work easily.There's a lot to learn, such as exactly why that is happening.
>>109204609The model doesn't need a LoRA with the rebalance node.
>>109204670the coolest thing about this is the 2x speed increase over fp8 imo
>>109204669You have to post this as a thread sticky for gputards
what retard uses WAI to compare anime instead of Anima LMAO
>>109204679I doubt that.
>>109204679I mean if you are vram constricted maybe then because you are using smaller model but otherwise it's nothing.GGUFs by default are slow and there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
>>109204681i dont think it matters. no one here is making a finetune from krea
>>109204682Because he has to make a lora for anima too? And he was using an old dataset of a old lora?
>>109204688But they're going to do something much worse like shilling and LARPing about Krea and finetuning it
>>109204683facts don't really care about your feelings
>>109204695Oh wow... maybe you don't understand the underlying hardware why integer operation might be faster than floating point.You sure wouldn't use AI generated fake statistics in that case.
zitjeet still melting down over literally nothing?
>>109204703So... you agree that it's 2x faster than fp8?
>>109204703NTA, but what the fuck are you even arguing? It's proven INT8 convrot is better and much faster than FP8. FP8 is deprecated now. Why are you arguing?
>>109204670> It improves the precision slightlyand> the 2x speed increase over fp8 >>109204679>>109204687> if you are vram constricted maybe then because you are using smaller model but otherwise it's nothing>>109204683> I doubt that.30x0 cards have no fp8 hardware support, they have to do compute in fp16The coolest thing about this is the nvfp4 pushed so hard by ngridia is btfoed yet again.
>>109204715he's crying because the image has krea in it. thats it. thats the whole seethe right there
>>109204703is it so hard to admit that you could be wrong anon? or is your autism too strong to have that self awarness? serious question
>>109204720..the argument has nothing to do with krea though
>>109204726we know
Lesson learned: if you want engagement on 4chan, make the product defective and let people spend more time arguing about it than actually using the model.
>>109204730>make the product defectiveshouldn't be too defective though, if it's too bad it'll simply be forgotten (like Boogu, Ernie, SenseNova...)
every gen so far was made with krea, lol
here is the reema rochelle lora from the previous thread: https://gofile.io/d/ph7bdY>>109203956I'm using forge neo, you can use the "Reema Rochelle" tag if it helps. here's the catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/tluqyt.pngalso these were the major consistent caption tags used across multiple images in the dataset folder."reema rochelle, young adult woman, adult woman, 27 years old, mixed spanish and portuguese descent, well-defined eyebrows, full eyebrows, long eyelashes, almond eyes, thick eyelashes, dark eyebrows, dark eyes, brown eyes, long hair, straight hair, black hair, dark hair, hair parted in middle, voluminous hair, silky hair texture, hair framing face, detailed hair strands, smooth skin, clear skin, light olive skin, medium-light skin tone, smooth skin texture, natural skin texture, subtle makeup, natural pink lips, oval face, large breasts, heavy breasts, natural breast shape, rounded breasts, deep cleavage, smooth chest, feminine body shape, slender nose, straight nose, mascara, voluptuous, curvy, wide hips, voluptuous body, curvy body shape, hourglass figure,"
>>109204720>he's crying because the image has krea in itdid the voices in your head told you that information?
>>109204740Okay but people are sad, we can't finetune Krea.We can't make NSFW gens on Krea without them looking slopped.Krea is another txt2img model whose only real difference is that it knows American media. Yes, every gen here was made with Krea, but people are still sad.
>>109204769thanks!
Did you know that Krea could make 4k images?
Krea won, but people are still dissatisfied
ai-toolkit doesnt support anima??
>>109204188whoever did that women sitting with all the shit all over her is very good. everytime i fucking see it. it makes me fucking laugh
Not dissatisfied at all - in fact I've just been genning straight bangers. I mean, what do the paps do? "1girl huge breasts" fap then go to sleep while the lora you made literally rots in purgatory after one use? Sad.
>>109204816Nope.
>>109204597lurk moar
do i stick with comfyUI or not?
>>109204479Correct, Ace Step outputs have robotic vocals and what you would expect from ARSS for sound quality. So basically trash and a waste of computation.
>>109204877obviously. only autistic retards are using forge.
>>109204877ever since Krea 2 and one node flux - I've only been using comfy. Krea 2 essentially counteracts comfyui's deficiencies.
>>109204904>one node fluxstupidest shit I've seen all year, istg
>>109204188>bottom leftI remember that scene in Anaconda, it was Owen Wilson tho
One of the reasons I pick NovelAI is that they have a team of at least 5 people available 24/7 answering questions and helping with image gen. On top of that, the same finetuner behind 4.5 full (and the upcoming v5) shows up every day to help answer questions too, that's never going to happen with local.
>>109204926how fucking stupid are you that you need daily assistance to generate anime pictures?
that post is so insane that I have no choice but to go lay down... I mean, I really am all alone in this world - we're in idiocracy but worse
>>109204926So not only do they have the best illustration and anime model, but they also back it up with great support and actually care about their genners?
>>109204926What??? This thread is basically a full time support staff. Baljeet is here every day to remind people to use z image and chroma. tardbo makes sure to keep us up to date on the latest malware. ace step schizo reminds us to get our ears checked. we already have novelai at home
Thoughts?
>>109204945>horse has high heelswhat have breeders been DOING
>>109204926hello, are you living in 2026??? everyone is using ai agents to help them with daily tasks now. you can setup claude to monitor your comfyui instance and help with any problem you come across
>>109204791>Krea is another txt2img model whose only real difference is that it knows American media.Sometimes, this is all we need though. Wednesday Addams + Alberto Vargas? Yes, please.
>>109204934Shouldn't you be using your local models? Mr insecure
>>109204960We might have that in a couple years
>>109204722Ok... If you wish.
>>109204945this cost 5 dollars in seedance credits btw
>be meso i was thinking of getting into video genning and you fucking nerds could probably help. do any of you filthy disgusting neckbeard coomer pieces of shit know if i should get the upcoming rtx spark for this purpose, or should i wait for the nvidia super cards? i want to make high quality longer format short films, not the short clip garbage you all are posting in this thread, how expensive hardware do i really need? thanks.
>>109204964man, you're really behind the times.
>>109204960Why would I talk to a text predictor when I can talk to and get help from the finetuner himself, every day, multiple times? The finetuner is an employee of NovelAI, and improving the model is literally his job.
>>109204978Nobody can afford claude so this isn't really useful to anyone who matters except grifters.
>>109204962Of course, her mom's quite the looker too. Krea even faked Vargas's signature for that.
>>109204960> claude Is that something in American like AC?
>>109204963it's called a "queue", ask one of your NovelAI tardwranglers about it.
>>109204962that face is all anime tho, not Vargas, you need NegPiP
>>109204978Uhm, local? Why not gemma-chan?
>>109204978 Any agentic tool can do it.
>>109204978how is this being done? mcp? teach me senpai
>>109205000claude is the best for any programming related task.>>109204997doesn't remotely compare to claude
>>109204992We don't even need a queue, it's fast and the quality's good too.
>>109204803slop pro maxjust look at the imagejfcwhy do they shill for this model?
>>109205004Gemma-chan is too good for people like you...
No seriously is there literally any fucking reason to use cloud ANYTHING?
>>109204945Workflow?
>>109205018Heh, I asked chatgpt how do I refer to local fonts in my flask application and it hallucinated some garbage and it was very verbose about it too. It couldn't say that you need to put the fonts inside /static/fonts/ for example and define @font-face entry and so on.I'm sure they are wasting your time on purpose because they need to increase their engagement metrics and other kike statistics to make it look like they are popular.
if you’re any kind of power user you should start using coding agents. they make the life easier.
>>109205050anyone in the tech field is practically required to at this point. you wont land a software engineering job unless you can use agents
>wait, api can do THAT???
>>109205056Makes sense. They multiply the productivity and let you do things you normally couldn’t without time-consuming studying.
>>109205067to be fair no one knew apis could do it because no one uses api models for anything more than throwaway twitter memes.
>>109205093>hello claude. im a normie male. generate me the most normie 1girl image in existence.
>>109205123>Unfortunately I am unable to fulfil your request at this time as you've run out of free tokens.
1girl, super model, blonde, blue eyes, outdoors, starbucks|margarita, glossy lips, instagram photographnormnorm:WHOAA WHOAA WORKFLOW!!?
>>109204188Was pretty good with local a year ago with stability matrix. Now I'm using flow ai for pretty much everything except porn and some dark horror since they have consistent characters and can easily edit pictures with small details. Will we ever have this kind of control on stable diffusion? I feel like this shouldn't be so hard.
>>109205018could still has its use cases. great for artificially expending a very limited dataset and creating character panel sheet for lora training. Also seedance 2.0 actually allows nsfw if you do your research about it.
do any local models get tsar nicky?
>>109204769>>109204803boomers have such friend low grade preferences.They eat tendies.Us gen x know what's up. We gen with real models. We eat steak and have a driver's license.
>>109205093Her arms are different lengths.krea 2 has revealed to me that autistic people don't have a good model of the 3D human in their minds.
>>109205023whose feet are those? They can't be hers, they're way too far away to be the foreground guy's.
@claude tell me whats wrong with her anatomy so i can sneed
>>109204962That's not what she looks like.autists have trouble identifying faces.
>>109205189kinda
>>109205289>een
>>109205301I love having a Tellt Csaso with a tall frosty can of Eeen beer.
>>109205289It's actually funny because the model clearly mixes Nikolai with the British which is true - they are all related in some ways.
Babe wake up, another useless image model got released...https://xcancel.com/ruoyu_feng/status/2073323464510050426#m
>>109205336photos never look like that. rubber legs.
reminderhttps://files.catbox.moe/dk497v.mp3
HER FEMUR IS TWO MILLIMETERS TOO SHORT, I CAN'T MASTURBATE TO THIS
>>109205372^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^STICKY THIS
>>109205179>3/4 view is basically the same face as the front view, just with the body angled slightly away from the viewer.Heh, local sloppers would never notice.
>>109205410I mean, localkeks don't notice the flaws of a largly inferior model such as Krea so yeah I wouldn't expect too much either
>>109205348not sure about this one, despite the text rendering
>>109205348https://huggingface.co/SeFi-Image/SeFi-Image-SemVAE>DINOv2-L SemVAESo their VAE is a finetune of DINOv2? hmm...
>>109205348no celebs, DOA
>>109205348No filters?? how unsafe of them!!
>>109205442Finally a good Krea2 render. Skin looks good. Hair will always be fuzzy I guess. It is what it is.
>>109205348look at those example pictures kek
>>109205348that joker smile kek
>>109205496Are you blind?
>>109205348This is their best work. my sides
>>109205505I said it is the best one from Krea2. It is the best it can do. Like that Terry's parrot.
>>109205508Come on, it's 1/2/5B. What the fuck do you expect? More models = good thing.
>>109205508we've seen way worse
>>109205518>Come on, it's 5B.Z-image turbo is 6b, no excuses allowed
>>109205348>not star worse>not tailor swift>not final fantasy>no marge simpsonDOAOA
>>109205539>star worsekek
>>109205348>4 steps turbowhen will they learn, the sweet spot is 8 steps
>>109205539we have open ai for disney IP.actually never mind, disney canceled their partnership with openai. rip.
>>109205539>no final fantasyfook yu
>>109205518>More models = good thingLmao what a garbage take, it's literally the opposite. Fewer models is better, it gives people time to finetune and improve what we have already got instead of chasing the next shitty thing and never improve.
what a piece of shit of a model. chinks have become very disappointing with all these open source shitty barebones giga slopped image generation models. was this piece of shit just trained with low res gemini 2.5 and gpt image 1 images? quality is absolute Dog shit.
>>109205561Now compare it with Cosmos. :^)
>>109205524fook mi that dash so long
>>109205553Japan should just stick with anime. Realism and 3D render aren't their strong suit.
>>109205558You sound like some underage twitter poster.
>>109205561Let's face it, without Alibaba, China is a pretty mid country, it's the only good company they have
>>109205286>That's not what she looks like.You know that it's a fictional character who was portrayed by several different actresses, right?
>>109205579And you sound like a LoRA nomad. Is that seriously the future you want for local? Everyone with their own loras because nothing works well across every use case?
>>109205601I didn't understand your special needs. I suppose it's useless to even try to post anything what doesn't suit your own tiny world view.I was thinking about everything in general, to me it's a great thing that there are more local models.Would be annoying if everything was censored big models and controlled by giant corporations...Similar akin to burning books.
>>109205618Ultimately, only the relevant models are made by giant corporations (for now), no one give a shit about inferior models, they exist or they don't exist, it won't move any needle
>>109205626They move the needle because they exist. It's always one step forward.If they didn't exist all you had was 'claude' with couple of other models, and some kike making special announcements about how dangerous everything is.
>>109205618Is it really better for the locals to stay fragmented into a thousand models that are censored, useless, and a pain to finetune? Is a divided, opinionated community what we want?I say no, what we need is one strong base model, something that unites all of us and gives us a real identity, a foundation everyone can actually build on.
>>109205620Slop. Cherrypicking one gacha seed and passing it off as proof the model is good is disinformation, false flagging and shilling.
>>109205647Why she has different breast size in every reference?
>>109205662it's her super power
>>109205620fuzzy hair
>>109205669let's see your hair
>>109205639AI image generation has became a routine.
krea2 "uncensoring" is cope that only "works" with "1girl, portrait, instagram" prompts, who would have saw that coming???>Realistic photography style, cinematic composition: Inside a grand medieval imperial palace, towering marble halls bathed in golden sunlight filtering through stained-glass windows. The central scene captures a dramatic power hierarchy through symbolic attire. At the focal point, a regal king in ornate gold-embroidered robes stands beside armored knights, all wearing flowing cloaks with glowing text stitched in bold metallic font: “96+GB VRAM” centered on their chests. They point fingers at merchants below, laughing triumphantly. The merchants, dressed in slightly worn but richly detailed garments, wear “24+GB VRAM” embroidered across their sleeves, also pointing and laughing mockingly. In the foreground, humble peasants kneel in submission, their ragged tunics bearing small, faded patches reading “VRAMlets” in plain black type. The spatial depth emphasizes scale: the towering figures dominate the frame, while the peasants are small and distant in perspective. Warm ambient lighting casts long shadows, enhancing drama. Hyper-detailed textures—fabric weave, stone carvings, metal embroidery—blend realism with subtle fantasy. Cinematic f-stop (f/1.8), shallow depth of field, 8K resolution, Hasselblad X2D realism, natural skin tones, lifelike expressions, ultra-sharp focus on facial features and text details. No distortions or surreal elements—pure visual satire grounded in photorealism.
>>109205701That's why I found it native that people thought this filter could be removed as easily, those guys aren't our friend, they made this shit as annoying as possible to bypass
>>109205442Nice work
>>109204301Wow. Welcome back AbyssOrangeMix3
>>109205728Thanks.
>>109205719workflow?
>>109205712Pretty sure it was one of the low quality high vram sloppers from around here. Last year I had arguments with a bunch of them because I kept saying Flux Kontext was shit and they were defending it here.
>>109205739I hope the krea flags will have the same path as BFL when making Krea Edit, Flux kontext had a safety filter, but then they changed their mind when making Flux Klein and removed that shit
>>109205018i'm sure the special club faggots get the godmode version
I don't expect to get any meaningful replies here but after looking at >https://github.com/nova452/ComfyUI-Conditioning-RebalanceAnd the image editing workflow - Krea 2 Image Edit Rebalance seems to be a monolithic node and doesn't allow a single style request. Eg. Instead of having Image 1 and Image 2 and telling the model explicitly to make Image 2 look like Image 1...I would like to just use one image reference and then prompt a new image.I was comparing my Klein9B setup and it's bit more complex and can do a gen with just a single image. Klein9B is shit in style transfer though so this is not the point here.
>>109205701>fell for the bait
>>109205792sovl vs sovless
>>109205596wednesday addams has only ever been portrayed correctly by one actress though>christina ricci
>>109205701You're doing it wrong if it changed that much. This is at 0.2
>>109205701so we're straight up making shit up to shit on Krea now?drop the workflow if you're brave
>>109205792>>109205801>>109205804>The Kreashill army is ready to defend their censorship master
>>109205790I guess I could edit the source but not sure if I care that much about it that I would bother doing it. To me it looks like it wasn't doing the right thing even with multiple source images but I could be wrong as usual.
>>109205813I will defend truth over lies about the censorship, not the censorship itself
why is ideogram so insanely censored? this thing is more censored than any other local model made. wow!
>>109205813why would you choose to lie about such a stupid thing? half this thread is genning krea porn in another tab rn.
z image turbo sucks! it only gens asian people and its censored af
>>109205174Anyone? I'm kind of too lazy to use loras all the time at this point. And editing details on local sucks.
>>109205848only one anon here uses Ideogram, you'll have to wait for him to come back to prove you wrong
>>109205873he's frantically drawing bboxes as we speak
Is there a way to disable these annoying popups? Standard workflow requires me to disable nodes and past cum ui versions did never display any popups.I have disabled this from the preferences too but it keeps up showing.This is before int8 update or something
>krea conditioning rebalance node>krea projector scale lora>krea censor bypass 2 vector>krea censor bypass 3 vector>all these hacks and copiumYou morons haven't figured it out yet so time to spoonfeed:The Krea team trained the censorship by making a dataset of completely safe images, but with corresponding unsafe prompts. Then, they froze the weights of the DiT, but finetuned the txtfusion and txtmlp weights on this dataset. Hence, with no ability to adjust the DiT weights, the training process modified the text processing layers to essentially "block" directions in the embedding space corresponding to unsafe concepts. That's the why the underlying DiT still knows so much NSFW stuff, but it can't easily be triggered.Facial expressions being muted are one side effect of this process, for reasons still not completely understood. The model being unable to write the word "CUM" is a direct effect of this process ("cum" has a strong NSFW direction in the embedding space which gets blocked, so it can't write the word at all).The proper way to uncensor the model is therefore to take a large, diverse dataset of NSFW and unsafe images. Train only the txtfusion and txtmlp weights, and it will undo this censorship while leaving all the visual knowledge in the DiT unperturbed.I offer no proof but I promise you I'm 100% right on this.
>>109205837>I will defend truthwill you defend the truth that bypassing the filter makes images more slopped? I doubt it
>>109205795
>>109205620wtf i kind like the concept. could you share prompt or catbox please :)
>>109205897we have finetunes now. muse is pretty good
>>109205863just say that the woman is caucasian?
>>109205894just fix the damn errors and save the workflow
>>109205896you don't need to take guesses, they tell us how they cucked the modelhttps://www.krea.ai/blog/krea-2-technical-report
>>109205897oh look, another absolutely genuine and good faith comparison
>>109205929there you go, he won't defend "the truth", they're all the same
>>109205913You don't understand there are no errors. It's all about flow control you dipshit. I disable the save nodes where appropriate.It wasn't an issue in earlier cum ui versions but now there is a fucking pop up and it's even bugged in some cases.
>>109205929what's wrong with the comparison apart the fact it just hurts your feelings?
>>109205939you don't need all that, fix your shit and stop complaining
>>109205945Of course mr schizo anon.
>>109205944same thing that is wrong with this comparison >>109205701
>>109205953which is?
>>109205939major skill issue lmao
>>109205956it being a lie or do you not see all the responses to it?
>>109205956you being to stupid to use a model isn't the models fault.
>>109205968>one comparaison by that is a lie, therefore, any subsequent comparaisons by other anons will be a liethat sounds like a genuine good faith and reasonable argument
>>109205957Ok. How? Just please tell me.
>>109205970Concession Accepted.
>>109205976not my problem that you also didn't see the responses to THAT comparison in previous threadsand from experience generating 3000 images with Krea I know it is bullshitjust fuck off and die krea haters, let people gen in peace
>>109205979it literally shows you the errors and how to fix them and instead you're here crying about a non-existent bug. just go use neo reforged trans edition or whatever the fuck its called now.>inb4 noooo its a bug el stupido i bypassed the offending nodes!fix them or delete them. simple ass you monkey brains.
>>109205985nah, go fuck yourself shill, you won't gaslight people, those bypass loras are snake oils, they make shit more slopped, no one is buying your bullshit
>>109205901So the first two still won't write cum?
>>109205990okay, give us a comparison showing the issue AND the workflow you used thenyou won't
>>109205995give me a comparaison showing that everything is fine, you won't, who's the guy with more good faith? the guy showing comparaison pictures (me), or the guy just shitting himself and not providing any proof (you)?
>>109205988Why do you resort on insulting me? I have used ComfyUI for years by now.
>>109206001>give me a comparaison showing that everything is fine, you won'tit's in this thread right now you ragebaiterdie
Guys trust me, the model is good. you just need to use the "Krea2-Turbo_raw_v2-Prompt-Rescale-adherance-nsfw-filter-bypass-v7-LoRA-Textual-Embedding" lora at 0.743. This will allow the Letter "U" in the word "cum". You then have to install the "Krea2-Enhance-Vector-negPipe-rescale-adetailer++" node which you use as a 4 pass workflow back into itself. I did this and it worked like 3 times out of 5.
>>109206002>I have used ComfyUI for years by now.Maybe it's time to switch you've clearly devolved.>Why do you resort on insulting me?Because you're being a retard. If this is a real issue then make an issue report on github.
>>109206003there's no comparaison showing that everything is fine you subhuman filth, take a rope and hang yourself, do the world a favor and leave this world for good
>>109206006kek, freaked that body
>>109206006you can just download a finetune like a normal person and then gen whatever you want. it really isn't difficult.
Conditioning Krea2 Rebalance node creates artifacts here.
>>109206006lmaooo, it do be like that with those retards
>>109206006I found a solution for you... don't use the model!Wow! That sure was difficult!
>>109206014yes, that's right, don't believe your lying eyes!
>>109204682I didn't have time to try Anima yet, that's why>>109204689thiswhere is the lora on Anima. Pretty good
>>109206006the saddest part is that they expect you to follow their insanity, they look at you with straight eyes and they think this is normal, what kind of mental illness is this?
>>109206036this is the lora on Anima*
>>109205348the funny part with that model is that they have a dogshit licencehttps://spdx.org/licenses/CC-BY-NC-4.0like what? do they really believe they're in position of power? even with apache 2.0 no one will use that shit
why is anon so butthurt?
>>109205799Correct.
>I'm going to keep using this model I hate to prove how bad this model is instead of just using the model I actually enjoy! That will show them! They'll stop using the model THEY enjoy once I show them the light! That's how I will get more people to use the model I like!Just don't use what you don't like? Post your ideogram/zit/anima gens and be happy you're using the model you prefer? Some people really have bigger hate boners than they do love boners.
>>109206006looool
>>109205348And... it's another benchmaxxed piece of shit
im seeing a lot of porn gens made with krea on civitai? how are people doing that? i thought the model was censored
>>109206077it's called jealousy and hatred
>>109206077second passes with a SDXL porn finetune obviously, Krea can only gen women wearing suits
>>109206085This, this model is perfect and has 0 flaws, based on that, any criticism is not allowed in our cult and will be dismissed as “jealousy,” “trolling,” or “hate.” Long live Krea 2, our savior!
>>109206077It can't do sad expressions or bad words without deep frying your gen.
>>109206105*taps on the sign*>>109206060
>>109206105that would be funny if there weren't haters in this thread literally lying about what it can do
>>109206113>calls people jealous>gets a pushback on that>"heh, only us can insult you, you're supposed to take the punches and shut the fuck up"no I don't think I will
>niggas are still asking for Pony versions in the big 26
>>109206123You must live a miserable life with such a big hate boner and such a small love boner.
>>109206129Concession Accepted.
This was posted in the news last thread, it can speed up diffusion models by 8x or more apparently.https://github.com/Xingyu-Zheng/MrFlowThat sounds pretty amazing if it doesn't degrade image quality too much.
>>109206134Yeah people with nothing good to say usually do post about their concessions.
>>109206117>implying the Kreashills don't likeeverytime you say "the filter can be easily bypassed" it's a lie btw, because it's not the case, you pay a price, you make the image more slopped, is it too hard to admit that fact? or are you gonna keep lying like the snake you are?
>>109206123it's just funny to say a model that cranks out degen porn can't do nsfw content. people are always going to call you a retard, because you are retarded. simple as.
>>109206144drop the workflow then
>>109205994snofs can but at 1.0 strength
>>109206139>8x speed upsure buddy. how about they wait until it releases before making such ridiculous claims.
>>109206141>people with nothing good to say usually do post about their concessions.but you're the one posting concessions, since you're the one conceding
>>109206144If you say this in every thread 100 times over and over instead of genning on the model of your choice people will eventually start using the model you prefer! Keep it up, anon! They'll see the light eventually!
>>109206144>you make the image more sloppedthat literally doesn't mean anything, it's just a sad attempt at moving the goalpost.
>>109206154you're not allowed to ask for a standard of proof, since you don't take the effort to provide any proof of your own, beggars cannot be chosers, if you want to counterargument, make a comparaison picture by yourself, it's not my job to sell your product, it's yours, remember Kreashill?
>>109206158Talking to you is like talking to a black person about the Egyptians.Post a gen already and be happy. (you won't)
>>109206178I didn't ask for any standard or whatever you're talking about, just drop the workflow bro, we want to see what's going onjust put it on catbox
the trolls should have moved from zit shilling to ernie shillingthat would've been way funnier than whatever boring shit they're doing now
>>109206188just post a comparaison picture bro, show me what you got, because so far, you haven't provided anything
>>109206202we did, bro, they are here in this thread bro
>>109206174>nooo, when I meant "can be easily be bypassed" I meant that it'll look like shit but that doesn't count right??trolls aren't sending their best
>>109206157its out. you can try it right now
>>109206174>it's just a sad attempt at moving the goalpost.It's always been about not frying your images.
>>109206208the thing is that you can see from your comparaison posts that the images get more slopped, so you're just proving my point, and I thank you for that>>109205901>>109205792
>>109206152but you're the retard though
>>109206225>the images get more sloppedoh shit bro that's crazy bro, I totally see the slop bro, the difference in the thing and the other thingwhat other things do you see that slopped bro?
>>109206248>>109206034
>>109206258totally bro, but like tell me bro, what things besides what I mentioned are slopped bro
>>109206248>>109206266>it's not slopped bro I swear!
>>109206282if you know there's nothing you can do then why do you keep trying? are you insane?
>>109206282bro, just tell me, bro why are you being like this, thought we were bros bro
>>109206294because to know if someone is a low IQ retard, you have to talk to him first, the simple fact I have to explain that simple concept is another proof that there's nothing I can do with you, you are born that way, it is what it is
>>109206307you'll likely keep posting about the same thing to the same people, though. I doubt you'll even take your own advice.
>>109206307could you post some non-slop gens so we have a frame of reference. horsie can't drink if he don't know what water is.
>>109206319>you are supposed to guess which anon is whichI don't have that superpower, do you?
bread maker better put this on collage.
i have been absent for a few weeks. nothing better than klein 9b to edit pics for vramlets?
https://files.catbox.moe/ng6es8.jpgKrea 2 is the best thing that has happened to celebfags in a whilethere are lots of SDXL/Chroma/whatever loras but you can't mix them up without regional prompting and shitKrea 3 without the inane filter and better VAE when?
>>109206324It's pretty obvious it's the same people arguing back and forth about the same thing for the past week. You can keep living in groundhog day, though and assume it's a fresh new pack of retards every day in the same place.
>>109206334why not? I don't like to take guesses and work on assumptions, if I don't have any proof you're the same anon from yesterday, I won't pretend anything, because if you do that, you end up in a rabbit hole where you believe everyone that disagrees with you is the single poopdickschizo anon nemesis or something lol
>>109206346Enjoy living life on repeat!
>>109206333Yes.
>>109206333uh oh, this post will cause a certain someone to have a melty
>>109206353Temu Billie Eyelash
>>109205348Why would anyone want yet another GPT Image distillation? It's too obvious rhe Chinese datasets aren't organic
>>109206355so far, the only ones having melties are the ones being challenged on the capabilities of Krea 2
there it is
>>109206372There's nothing challenging about genning eThots and bobs and vagenes
>>109206333>Krea 3 without the inane filter and better VAE when?the filter will probably stay, but the CEO said that Krea 3 will be a pixel space model
>>109206333Model doesn't know pornstars. That's still bad imo. Then again, no clue if something like GPT Image would know it anyways (without censoring them).
Krea2 with the wan2.1 2x VAE is more than fine.
Not gonna lie I'm starting to get a little pissed of at Krea. Some of the loras work well with certain loras and awfully with the others and same goes with the bypass filters.
>>109206377>a polite disagreement is a "meltie" to himbro is so mentally fragile a mere breeze could break him into 100 pieces kek
there it is again
>>109206394>Not gonna lie I'm starting to get a little pissed of at Krea.nuh uh, it's not allowed to say that here!
>>109206380
>>109206419where did you get that? is it a blog or something?
>>109206427my bet is on Gemini slop
>>109206401https://youtu.be/EnBdGTX3vZc?t=27
>>109206429it is. But it's true. It is slow and heavy on hardware.
>>109206434I'm not your friend, buddy.
>>109206439uh oh, meltie~
>>109206436>It is slow and heavy on hardware.maybe, but that's what they want to do for Krea 3, I guess they rely on Krea 2's sucess and have enough money to make it happen, we'll see
>>109206033He won't because he's a troll and all those responses are from himself. First, he used to do that aggressively with Chroma. He does it with every new model that gets released. There are no changes to the manner and structure of the arguments, and its responses.
>>109206480>all those responses are from himselfthe singular poopdickschizo... the legend...
>>1092063888 steps 1mp + 3b sneedvr2 at the end is pretty nice tooif you got enough sysmem it's faster than doing 12 step 2mp shots desu
>>109206487it could be saved if they put IDs on every boards, why won't they do that? :-:
>>109206344So basically it's a Flux.1 dev convertor? kek
>>109206487kek
>>109206490The new models usually get better the higher your generation resolution is so I always try to crank it as high as I'm willing to wait for a gen.
>>109206538I found with Krea some parts of the prompt stop appearing at higher res
>>109206542haram
>>109206542June's over, anon.
>>109206410Krea2 is frustrating. Sometimes it ignores basic topless stuff, other times it's fine with show buttholes and pussy and fart clouds.https://files.catbox.moe/s8tffu.png
>>109206596>Sometimes it ignores basic topless stuff, other times it's fine with show buttholes and pussy and fart clouds.no filter is perfect, so you get inconsistencies issues
>>109206596You bring a lot of diversity here with your blackness, thank you.
>>109206596cute
have you thanked god today for not giving you a fart fetish?thank you god
>>109206631I wonder what kind of trauma causes this
>>109206631Fartfags >>> footfags
I have come to the conclusion that the only sane way to use Krea is to just stay away from all the filter bypass bullshit and to just accept that the model will just refuse to gen stuff if you use it for anything even remotely spicy.
>>109206645footfags >>> fartfags=footstinkfags
>>109206612> You bring a lot of diversity here with your blackness, thank you.T... thanksspreading it extra wide, just for you!https://files.catbox.moe/muhd30.png
>>109206076lol those hands
An ugly foid likely addicted to meth tried to talk to me at church. I wonder what joys the next 10 lbs of weight can bring.
>>109204769thanks bud
>>109206596>>109206670Not really sure why you're genning this with Krea when Anima would do a much better job faster.
>>109206697You can fix her.
is there a realistic model that can do proper french kissing? it's always just pecks on the lips
>>109206716>>109206716
>>109206593thats why im posting dl trade
>>109206701Mostly because they try to stop you from doing it, but also because krea2 can do picrel without screwing around with regional prompter. No, I'm not going to use Anima.
ahahahahaah krea even deforms anime
>>109207098>>109207098>>109206717