Fourth of July editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>109190608
Blessing 3 is actually the peak of Moondrop and no not the Crin's pos but the original B3
This is the thread for gay sex?
>>109205195B3 Aqua mogs
Best IEm to listen to star spangled banner?
>>109205235Probably something from israel
>>109205245kek
TinHifi C0 Elf is the best budget bullet. Mr. Super* Hifigo was right all along.
>>109205506ehyou can't judge an IEM by a singular opinion from some guy
>>109205506If you're a testosterone-less 60 year old maybe, yeah
>>109205172I don't recognize any of the pos in this pic and I've been in this since 2022. If you do without any image search you're probably a real og olhead unc huh
>>109205689>all pos released post-2024
If you have less test you hate bass. If you start taking e and turn yourself into a tranny, MortyDo you also start hating bass too? What are women's opinion on this? Can women really be 'tistic about sound quality?
>>109205694Dam, just goes to show how interesting newer releases are. The slop machine only goes harder, I guess.
>>109205696it depends on the music but i do like some good subbass, which hasnt changed after taking enever liked midbass though, always been keeping it slightly below harman level
>>109205216Wrong board, /fit/ is two blocks down.
about to buy the truthear hexa and i need a dac, any recommendations? preferably under 40 euros
>>109206164can you not read the op?
>>109206164Size is no problem? 7hz 71.Is a problem? JCally JM20 Max.
>>109206213op suggestions are retarded. All of those suck/have bad implementations of a particular DAC. Absolute retard just throwing shit in there probably from an LLM summary without any prior research.
>>109206243most of them bypass whatever issue the dac hasif you know enough about particular flaws of a dac chip but too lazy to look for a dac, you are beyond saving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2QXE2Kk0
any recommendations for multidecakilobuck sources?
>>109206243Literally one of the very few correctly implemented CS* DACs, kys.
My Bunny cables are dying. Probably should've just got another set of cheap IEMs instead of a $9 cable.
>>109206290Do not redeem IEMs saar.
>>1092062711. I didn't ask for recommendations.2. You don't seem to understand. Literally every suggestion there is bad. -CX31993; tilts the FR upwards instead of measuring flat. So most implementations of this sound unnaturally bright.-JIEZI; known to have ticking and hissing and the EQ isn't even accurate.>>109206317-See pic rel braindead negro.-Qudelix 5K; its successor is right around the corner so it's a shit time to buy this too! LMAOING@ALL OF YOUR LIVES WHO FELL FOR THIS GARBAGE
>>109206364Blind retardhttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/on-the-distortion-of-cirrus-logic-cs431xx-based-devices-a-comparative-review.63038/
>>109206364>still doesn't know about DRE bypass that most manufacturers have implemented it's always the illiterate retards lmao
>>109206364In case you still can't see it you're quoting the pre-update article.
>>109206390>Buying a bulky piece of broken trash in the hopes that a firmware update will disable DRE and drop SINAD in the process, so that it becomes a worse performing DAC overall.Yeah, I'm thinking it's a shit purchase m8
>>109206449>hoping for an update that was released a year agoWhat is this retard yapping about.
>>109205172Based ISN H60 enjoyer
>>109206356For how long did they last.
>>109205696women fall into the group of, "easy to scam into hearing detail by adding treble">>109206364>Qudelix 5K2.5mm is a humiliation ritual to the Nth degree.
Don't be like him.
>>109205172>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posWe need more!• Eartips if the pos hits the floor (ear infection)• The pos backwards• LLMs as a source for advice
>>109206821Maybe about 7-8 months of heavy daily usage. Sometimes falling asleep and getting the cord wrapped around me.
why do all of my dongle dacs go out of sync after 10-15 minutes except for my UA7? even ones with an inbuilt battery fucks up eventually. "adapter" dacs and straight up USB-C cables dont have said issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbgOj_0fYyM
Good free software for digitalizing my CD collection?
>>109207061Don't use balanced.
>>109207979>porn is stupidthank you sharur
>>109206312By the time you can buy one of those might as well just get apple dongle, no difference.
>>109207874What do you mean by out of sync? If there's a UAC 1/2 option try switching to the opposite one. Try uninstalling the driver and re-plugging them.
>>109208309Don't listen to mainstream audiofools. Instead, form your own original opinion.
>>109208330kek this is why audiophile forums ban FR graphs and blind A/B tests
>>109208421Use magnetic connection.
>>109207116Many such cases.
whos buying?
>>109208668I don't want to go bald, sorry.
is mesh/filter rolling worth it
>>109208747100% yes
>>109208747iems are disposable. Stop worrying about mesh and filters you broke retard
>>109209526replacing the parts that give iems longevity makes them the opposite of disposable
>>109207095Did he really spend that money or was he given the pairs to advertise them in his videos.
>>109209580You cannot replace the filter from the front vent that controls the bass... if it clogs, there isn't much you can do.
>>109209867>You cannot>there isn't much you canholy mental gymnastics. even this minor complication can be DIY'd to perfection.
>>109209894>can be DIY'd to perfection.>destroys the iem in the processlmaooo
>>109209910>"there isn't much you can do"saying there isn't much that can be done implies at least something can be done.. retard contradiction on your part
>>109208668DMS went from shilling these on a $20k Amp/DAC system in a warm room to now shilling science shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwdCMq57d_gTL;DR is don't buy Abyss lmao DMS's behaviour alone should be enough to know its snake oil slop
>>109210276Mandatory link on DMS mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ979fSz06k>>109209857He owns like ten kilobuck IEMs or something, he doesn't own a Storm or anything though he basically does it for free lmao
poorfags will never know how comfy it is to listen to hype 4s through a mojo 2
>>109210624im getting wozzles rn listening to my immanis through a 465
posers will never know the joy of enjoying to music with $5 vidos through motherboard dac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t9yVQBVMgM
>>109210666this guy is a Shaky Warrior
>>109210633>enjoying to music>posersyou're ESL
>>109210276never been more uninterested in a IEM. probably due to the people pushing it.not interested in abyss either with how overpriced all their stuff seems to be. they're also using ai art on their stuff it seems. look at this
>>109210708jeet argument
>>109210728Yeah it's definitely AI lmao. They're giga grifters, its funny watching everyone run cover for DMS whenever people bring up he was the Abyss marketing/salesperson for a year+ until he got laughed out for botching the Linus bit.
>>109210728hahahahhahaha, why the fuck boomers and millenials are so cheap, i wouldnt pay few usd for chink shitbud with ai faceplate and they are using it on super expensive headphones.Same with ZMF, if u look at his yt channel he is/was using lots of AI in video thumbnails. Imagine having access to so many beautiful headphones, taking pride in your craftsmanship, and then, instead of inserting a photo of those works he instead is inserting urine-colored AI generated headphones in the video thumbnail.Also I'm almost sure thath abyss 4th july edition have AI generated flags
>>109211037>Same with ZMF, if u look at his yt channel he is/was using lots of AI in video thumbnails. Imagine having access to so many beautiful headphones, taking pride in your craftsmanship, and then, instead of inserting a photo of those works he instead is inserting urine-colored AI generated headphones in the video thumbnail.Half the ZMF drivers are AliExpress ones, lol
may i interest you in a 300 dollar replacement headband and 500 dollar headphone stand
>>109211070they probably make your music sound better so its okay
>>109211058that could be the case, there is even entire market of fake ZMF/Abyss knockoffs on aliexpress and what ive look into it they sound really simillar to orginal products.
I boughted the b&w px8 s2
pre-mogged by fox iem
>>109211070>2,200 euro for room temperature superconductorwow one of the biggest challenges in science effortlessly solved by abyss and available for the masses
>>109210633>motherboard dacGood enough for any use case outside of professional studios.
Vivian bros where you at?
>>109211201I don't know what but it was definitely mogged.
>>109211444cute
wtf with superconductor cable? does anyone tried cooling it down to absolute zero and listen to it or what is the usecase for that over normal copper?
>>109211201>>109211444>>109211453schizo samefag talking to herself
>>109211555maybe if you're lobotomized
>>109211465Mfs made a cable for Frozone? I can already hear the techs
I named my main cat Лиcкo.
>>109211555>herself
>>109209971yes, you can destroy your iem and replace it with a wrong filter... congrats
Low T Alert !!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN8ipGlEXSs
So, let me get this straight /iemg/:The cheapest dac I can get without major issues like hissing, clicking etc. costs more than my budget 1dd iem?Do I understand this correctly?
>>109212551if you are using a desktop PC then yes
>>109212484Nature is healing.
sorry i only buy cheap iems that measure well and have pedophilic art on them
>>109212620DUMP TRUCK
who's oem for crinear?
>>109212620Even the length mode dips.
>>109212630 epz
>>109212551>>109212562What's your cheapest good desktop DAC?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67I-LdNzlg
>>109213098he is right though why do people call him a ragebaiter?because they spent too much money?
>>109213369>he is right thoughAbout what.
>>109213369nigga literally spent $5k on a dogshit headpos lmao
>>109213482who?
>>109213514>>109213098
>>109213482yes and you can see him coping as he sends them for repair for the nth time the same way iem tards cope for spending too much on bad products
thoughts on kinetic bass tech? it can improve slam much more than BCDs which mainly add resonant rumble/bloom. I feel this is underrated. probably because it's locked behind very expensive iems (they patented it until the 2030s) but even so it is real innovation. A new category really
>>109213093K11 R2R.
>>109214110pfffttthahahh
>Poweramp EQ sucks >Wavelet sucks and distorts cuz no proper preamp>JamesDSP doesn't work on my old phoneWhen will someone make a decent PEQ for android without needing to root it for free? It can't be that hard, cmon vibe coders
for IEMS, any decent dongle with its own volume control easily doubles as a desktop DAC.
>>109214434No it doesn't.
>>109214924Yes. It does.
>>109214247what? they're the cheapest dacs i have. paid 35 for the black one and 60 for the red one. my next cheapest is the muse m4 ultra that i paid 100 for and it's not a desktop dac. if going by just desktops, i guess my cheapest is the audio-gd nfb-11.28
>>109214934No it doesn't, idiot, because you only have USB input.>>109214974We said good. You said fiio.
>>109215102you're changing the meaning of "desktop DAC", while I'm talking about function. I specifically said any decent dongle with its own volume control doubles as a desktop DAC, not that it has every feature of a full size desktop DAC. same exact role is we're specifically talking about IEMS. which we are. the fact that it doesn't have optical or coax doesn't stop it from functioning as a desktop DAC, idiot. USB being its only input doesn't invalidate that.>"we" said good, you said fiioexactly my point. you're being contrarian and argumentative for no reason lol.
>>109215102>because you only have USB inputOther inputs are worse.
>>109214348Never gonna happen. The scope of alternation you're allowed to make over the system audio pipeline just as a single user app is very limited. Only way is if Google provides API for it for app developers. Which I highly doubt they ever will.
>>109215163>Other inputs are worseexactly lol. that's the only time his point of view is relevant is if and when someone needs more inputs. in that case, he'd point out a limitation. lil bro needs some milk
>>109215157>you're changing the meaning of "desktop DAC",No I'm not. We need to differentiate between desktop and portable, and a clear distinction is the number of features, such as inputs and outputs. While it's usable, it doesn't double as a desktop DAC, idiot. Furthermore, idiot, if you're specifically talking about IEMs, then it's not a DAC, it's a DAC/AMP combo.>>109215163Literally wrong.
>>109215199Retard.
>>109215222>muh graphsYou are so brown it's unreal.
>>109215228I accept your concession.
>>109215199>We need to differentiate between desktop and portable, and a clear distinction is the number of features.no, YOU need to differentiate. here's your problem: you're making up definitions according to your personal view when we're talking about IEMS. PLENTY OF DESKTOP DACS HAVE ONLY USB INPUT fucking dipshit. the number of inputs isn't what determines whether something is a desktop DAC. you're nitpicking definitions that don't exist and still falling flat on your face, anon.
>>109215228he got it from ASR lol
Deaf boomer thinks people use something other than USB these days. Lol!
>>109215231No I accept yours. You're instantly defaulting to some cherry picked graph like the brownest animal ever and dismissing every other nuance.>>109215239>no, YOU need to differentiate.No, YOU need to learn English, because words have meanings and if there was no difference, then there wouldn't be a reason to have two different words.>PLENTY OF DESKTOP DACS HAVE ONLY USB INPUT fucking dipshit.And they're not good. Don't have a caps melty now, redditor. What makes desktop and portable DACs different, according to your redditor opinion then? You also didn't address the fact that your example is a DAC and AMP combo, and not just a DAC.
>>109215266>it's worse in this way but what about...No refunds.
>>109215252No, people aren't broke normalfaggot zoomers like you and have different audio sources that have digital outs that aren't USB. You wouldn't know that becuase you can't afford any, and because you're a casual that listens to shit music on a phone with a jcally.>>109215271Who are you quoting?
>>109215279Malding boomer thinks his gear matters lmao >>109208330
>>109215285Concession accepted.
I recently auto eq'd my blessing 3 to the mega7, the mega5 and the pilgrim, since I'm looking for an upgrade in this price range and from my auto eq test the mega7 sounded the most natural and "life-like" to me. Any other options I should be looking at this price range? For reference, I listen to classical, jazz and rock, but around 60% of my library is classical.
How it feels not being a headphone user.
>>109215325this but unironicallyheadphones are for cuckolds
>>109215266>No I accept yoursNO, YOU! lol>cherry pickedthis is where you're done being taken seriously. you've shifted the goal post TWICE without even actually rebuking my point. first you said, >it can't be a desktop DAC because it only has USB input.I told you there are plenty of desktop DACs with only USB and instead of defending your definition, you switched to "those aren't good." whether you like them has nothing to do with if they're desktop DACs or not lol. you keep squirreling your way in and out of your failed logic and it's hilarious. my entire point still stands. for anybody using IEMs from a PC, any decent USB dongle with its own volume control serves the same role as a desktop DAC in that setup. absolutely nothing you've said refutes that.
>>109215318>looking for an upgrade in this price rangeupgrade in what, though? what do you seek "more" of for your next purchase?also, what other IEMS do you own?
>>109215364oof. you can't even try to reverse psychology your way out if that's your response at this point in your defeat. this was too easy, honestly.
>graphs are le badBoomers are truly the most kikeraped generation.
>Who are you quoting?>Who are you quoting?
>>109215435my point about certain dongles being able to double as a desktop DAC for IEMS holds true no matter how deep a hole you continue to dig for yourself. pragmatism and patience always wins, /iemg/.
>>109215367For me the blessing sounds fine but after listening to the auto eq, I much preferred the sound of the mega 7 and the mega 5, wich is close to "the new meta", it just sounded much more real and easier to listen, so I would like something like that. I also own aria snow, chu II and some cheap kz and celest iems for daily use.
You're not cool for losing an argument and getting so mad you start reporting out of spite.
>>109215318>>109215596if you like it, then yeah mega7 is a solid all-round choice. there are jm-1 tuned iems as low as ~$150 like epz p50/crinear daybreak, but if you like the mega7 looks/package then go ahead
what is the point of the truthear pure? couldnt i just EQ my hexa to sound warmer and basically have the same thing?
>>109215890yes>the pointa company selling a new product for profit
>>109215596if you're coming from the Blessing 3, then spending an extra $50-150 on what you EQ'd to won't offer you an actual advantage, to be frank. Since tonality is your main concern, I think you'd be best just EQing what you have to what you like and sticking with that for a while. Try this- the cheaper iems you have, EQ those to the targets you liked and see how those compare to your B3 EQ'd to the same target. Spend plenty of time with each and allow yourself to notice any differences, if anything. I highly advise against spending more than what you spent so far just on the basis of tonality alone.
I have officially joined the ranks of Tanchxista's!!!
>>109216592>didnt wait for ola2 posotmsister...
>>109216670>metalposnoy today, dear Asano
>>109216670oh yes I yearn for BA in the nozzle when the DD is absolutely sufficient
imagine an epz x tanchjim asano fox collab
>>109216686it's plastic.>>109216712uohoohh
>>109216715So like metal plate attached to plastic case? These bunnies on the other hand are so fucking cute and tiny!! I expected them to be somewhat bigger works I guess since they disappear into my ears easily. Initial impressions are positive, slight emphasis on vocals with moderate bass and sparkly treble. Yet leans towards neutral tonality maybe I will try the DSP features later.
>>109212620its pretty close to what ive been using since march 2025. it JUST sounds correct
I doom scrolled equipboard to look for our beloved hobby brands and found jack shit.If chi-fi solved IEMs, why do touring/professional/any serious musicians overwhelmingly use UE/64A/JH/Shure/Sennheiser while hobby chifi brands are basically nonexistent?Why is the entire chifi hobby market absent and not part of the pro market? There's obviously 0 overlap between the two markets. >inb4 "sponsorships"
>>109216973there are many reasons. mostly a "it just werks," mentality. same reason why sony mdr or beyer headphones are familiar to any musician even though their frequency response objectively sucks ass. parts of the pro industry are shifting though. cheap kzs like as16 pro or edc/edx models can often be seen used as disposable / emergency-use universals. cheaper than the cheap standard of se215, so some pockets of pros have recognized.>obviously 0 overlap between the two marketsjust hyperbole on your part. 64 audio universals for audiophiles are fairly common. the other brands mostly fall off because audiophiles are unironically more involved in the nitty gritty of market developments. most musicians do their job of performing, not obsessing over the latest audiophile gear
at the point of a musicians career where they have customs, rarely is the artist involved besides the outer faceplate design customization. at that point, you have a staff, audio engineer / assistant managing the in-ears for a band / group, etc.>inb4 "sponsorships"it's more about an infrastructure of support. why would any american get customs from some chink that offers virtually no warranty and no english speaking representative within thousands of miles. versus a deeply established pro brand like 64 Audio who have numerous partners / branches globally.
which fiio has that cassette tape case and uses the dock thing?
>>109205172That's disrespectful as fuck man. Get the flag off the ground.
>>109217400fiio m21>>109217430yeah right i didnt realize
>>109216973on stage noone wants shiny chinkbud with 10 drivers and ai generated anime child of face plate. Even sound quality isnt that important, u just need good sound isolation, good comfort, sometimes custom shells and thats it.
>>109215740
you lost
>>109215318Take your most comfortable IEM and EQ it to mega7. If you can't wear your most comfortable IEM all day or if it keeps slipping out buy some IEMs with different shell shapes and EQ them. That will be an actual upgrade. Not something that has a certain tonality out of the box. The tonality you like the most doesn't exist in a physical IEM anyway, you just haven't found it yet.
>>109216973Because stage IEMs are not made for music listening. They are made for noise isolation and the fit so secure that you can sing with them, which is why they're often custom. Chifi did not solve this at all. Poor musicians already replaced se215 with KZs since it's universally agreed that it's trash.
>>109217450It's crazy that I'm the only one in this thread that did, as far as I can tell. Food for thought
>>109213098>eq a shitbud to a shit target >it sounds like shitIncredible.
>>109212484Of course the headpos user hates fun, Mark loved it despite being a certified class 3 listener.
>>109218103Headslop show is just the new flavour of Amir, except everything must be tuned to their personalised Harman adjustments instead of saying Harman18 is the only true sound
should have eqed to storm instead. here are its measurements
>>109218103its not even "fun". its neutral. redditors got their mind broken by moondrop and thinks bright = neutral
There's a good handful of distinct IEM markets optimizing /marketing different things with asymmetric overlap because of different priorities./iemg/ sits firmly in the chifi/boutique industry.
>>109218127I don't see out of phase drivers annihilating a random part of the treble in this graph.
>>109218160We only listen to real music https://youtu.be/oJI65gOdAng
>>109215596auto EQ to crinear reference and then buy it
>>109218103fun is fun for like 10-30minutes, then becomes boring or normal. Objectively, for someone starting out, something normal sounding, preferably neutral or mild v shape would be a better choice. You can buy this type of wacky things to complete your collection but never as your only item..You can't appreciate normal sounding headphones,iems without having abnormal sounding headphones, and other way around, you can't appreciate such strange experiments like that crin or grell oae1 or even vshape or bright, warm shit without having normal sounding headphones at your disposal to compare it.Also stop faling for that consoomer slop, somewhere there is boomer with few of cheap old bayerdynamics, senheissers that he have for 30 years who is laughing at you
>>109215890>just EQyes but nobody is using EQ
>>109218089Occlusion effect is such a strange hill to die on. If you aren't talking then it doesn't exist. It has been tested that people can't tell whether headphones are open or closed by the sound alone if the room is quiet. Of course focusing on one niche thing leads you to buying weird suboptimal products.
>>109218313If a raped kikeslave is laughing at me then I'm doing something right.
>>109218089you are not exactly wrong but his target is not that bad it's somewhat inside the preference bounds so it'll sound passable for most people
>>109218354too bad that yesterday USA was raped by Belgium national team. 1:4
>>109218160>In short, neutral IEMs and headphones are things made by white people for white people."neutral" is not something absolute. every individual hears his own neutral
>>109218228>thinks bright = neutralthis is really fucking annoying annoying. faggots unironically think neutral = bright = analytical = clinical and all that dumb fucking shit...
Define flat.
>>109218432The best IEM on the market, _EQ Sandbox.
>>109218441first production run when?
Anybody got a recommendation for a replacement cable for my Fiio FD15s? I've been using them near-daily for almost two years, and the cable finally gave out. The connector is MMCX. Input either needs to be 3.5 or 4.4mm. Thanks in advance.
>>109218160conclusion: the best pos ever made is CrinEar Reference...which is SEA
>>109220006not a bad approach, I enjoy it toot. neutral connoisseur
>>109220006Invest in kinetic bass technology. dont be bottlenecked by ear canals
>>109220006just means you haven't heard neutral on anything but speakers
>>109220042what exactly does this do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2EtEDF6jV4
There's no headphone general so this'll do.I want some top-tier cans and am currently eyeing the Sennheiser HD 660S2s. I don't expect to ever buy another pair of headphones unless they break. This is anon's chance to brandshill me on something else to buy instead. Thank ye.
>>109220214boy, top tier "cans" are more like 10-20k usd and require double that in source gear. Stay with bluetooth stuff normie (its not that far away desu)
>>109220242Cool. Cool. Thanks for your contirbution. Have you considered taking the cock out of your ass and infering that maybe something within the $500-1000 range is what I'm after and actually answering the question?
>>109220214mirph-1
>>109220263do u have external dac/amp? do u need openback or closed back? (660S2 needs amp and they leak sound) Nigger just buy wireless like hbd 630.
>>109220266>It vents low frequencies into the conchais there really a point in doing that?.. your ear canal is still stuffed by an IEM which can reproduce low frequencies just fine by itself?
>>109220295Scarlett 2i2. Good for 300 ohms iirc. Open/closed not a concern but open prefered. Idgaf about the wired/wireless debate, I was just looking for alternative recommendations if any other anon felt like stopping me from buying the Sennheisers. Normally anons love to dunk on shit they don't like and recommend their favorite shit.
>>109220304Yes because the coupling pressure on your ear changes how the bass feels. you can also achieve more slam perception without eardrum fatigue
>>109220214Why 660S2 and not 650? 650 mogs ngl. It's either 650 for open back and probably maybe 480 Pro for closed back for me.
>>109220374>Yes because the coupling pressure on your ear changes how the bass feelsI find it hard to believe this thing will do anything to be honest
>>109220526From comparison reviews of the 600, 650, and 660S2, I lent towards the 660S2. Based entirely off of descriptions. All three are relatively close in terms of sound so I wasn't too concerned about autism-grade nit picking.The HD 600 is actually dirt cheap because of Prime Day on Amazon, but from what I've heard they sound very neutral and flat despite the good soundstage. The 650 was described as a middle ground between the others.
>>109220343ok so u have rather big choice. I think most durable will be senheisser, 600 series but there is also new 490 pro(open) and 480pro (closed). Most impressive sound for untrained ear will be in planar drivers, but they are more fragile and heavy due to magnets. So if u want planar u can go for hifimans like xs, xv, arya, ananda (they have rather bad reputation for its durability), moondrop with models like cosmo, para 2, skyland (skyland and cosmo needs seriuos amplification), fiio with models like fiio ft7, ft1 pro. dan clarck audio also have models around that price. U can also look at Focal stuff, final audio stuff, audiotechnica, bayerdynamic.Yeah, honestly tough choice, i couldnt recomend u one model, safest bet will be senheissers but for around 1000usd Moondrop Cosmo that i have sounds divine, they need lots of amp and they are heavy af.Maybe check top lists from channels like gadgetery tech or other audio stuff
>>109220564>I lent towards the 660S2. Based entirely off of descriptions.Big mistake. Reviews in this space are just words spaghetti. Out of those three you mentioned, 650 is objectively superior in terms of sound quality. Only reason to get others would be if they were substantially more affordable.
>>109220550it's similar in principle to bone conduction drivers
>>109220612>>109220624Noted. Thank the both of you.The HD 650 are about $100 more than the HD 660S2 so it's negligible. Only reason I thought of the HD 600 was because they're like $230 right now and thought they were somewhat comparable.>Most impressive sound for untrained ear will be in planar drivers, but they are more fragile and heavy due to magnets.Is this going to be annoying enough for long-period use? There are some days where I'm sat at my desk for 10+ hours and high weight might be a deal breaker.The fact there are so many choices and it's heavily subjective are exactly why I wanted some input.
>>109205172Truthear Gates with a custom Harman EQ are unironically the best IEMs I've ever used. I took the 3 existing EQs from the AUTOEQ repo and did a full mathematical average using python which produced an 11 band EQ instead of the 5 band sources. The bass is legitimately tight and punchy without being muddy.
>s this going to be annoying enough for long-period use? oh for sure, for long term daily use go with dynamics, planars can weight from around 450g to around 600g, dynamic driver are like around 300g. Also planars are known for more detailed and more tiring sound. I can sit in them for hour, maybe 2 but it get fatiguing, not only due to weight but also just amount of details it produce drilling your brain with them.I like them but more for like quick sessions, when im not doing anything serious.Like doing work stuff i cant use them, I keep losing concentration and focusing on the sound.For that application i will say that dynamic headphones with warmer tuning like 600 series are far better choice. I would get hd650 or 6xx but honestly 600 series is close in terms of sound quality, definitely not such a leap as between models from different manufacturers or types of transducers
>>109220743Niggas will do anything but learn to EQ.
>>109220764Why though, it isn't even hard?>move the slider>where does it sound better?>okay leave it there>next slider
>>109220743vibecoded IEMs.
>>109220775>graphic EQAnything I swear.
trvth nukehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQBR8Fl8G0
>>109220789I'm sorry that it's not good enough for you xir.
>>109220822You could fix 99% of IEMs with like 4 bands but not a single graphic EQ has them in the right place.
>>109220818Total capitulation >>109218089
why do all iems need fixing? you'd think some didn't just by pure chance
>>109220693so it's a useless gimmick then
>>109220743aren't they already harman by default? > I took the 3 existing EQs from the AUTOEQ repo and did a full mathematical average using python which produced an 11 band EQ instead of the 5 band sources.show it on squig
>>109220883Maybe, but there are things about IEMs other than sound quality, and those things may be unfixable, even if the sound is good.
>>109220901You see, they had 5 bands, but the result has 11 bands, so it must be better.
>>109220883because they need to assume your ear gain and have length modes which is unavoidable behavior.>you'd think some didn't just by pure chancetheoretically it's possible
>>109218089just hop on headfi music recomendation thread and enjoy hindu indie ram pam pam
>>109220894no, that doesn't follow from them being similar in principle
>>109220818Only the faceplate matters.
>>109220894maybe it helps to think about how bass from speakers is experienced
>>109220852Apple proved that 3 bands are enough if you have a baseline that is not completely fucked beyond repair.
>>109220818Crinacle OWNS this jeet. While this jeet is in his room spouting random nonsense in a manic episode, holding a useless degree he will make no use of- Chinacle is about to make almost half a million dollars from his latest collab. Scamjeets obliterated. Zionist bootlickers DESTROYED
>>109220968how bass from speakers is experienced has fuck all to do with that thing
>>109221018you aren't fixing length modes with bands bro
>>109221053rekt
>>109221087my point is simply that bass perception doesnt just come from eardrum interactions
>>109221111you? 3 bands obviously is not enough and apple proved fuck all
>>109221202might as well wear a bass west then lol
>>109221312yeah its got potential. just hard to implement
>Some fagtroon mod is looking at iemg and deleting postsJoever beyond belief
shipping is free but they seem explicit in saying they don't cover import taxes / duties from hangout audio. i hate that ambiguity and possibly paying more. i would have ordered monolith if they covered the fees
>>109222196Is that even something they control or up to your county's customs? Genuinely no idea because I've never ordered anything internationally.
>>109222196if they did cover it the iem would just cost more i think and you'd pay it on checkout. no way to get around this unless they underdeclare the value. which is very common in asia and they might
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk2cULlJ7SA
>>109222426why are you obsessed with shoving this guy in our faces?
>>109222363every country is individual, so it's more predictable for them as the shipper not to cover it. it's more annoying for me the consumer to have an additional mystery fee pop up in a ransom-hostage scenario where you have to pay to get your package or else face all the fees from the package being returned.
If you're paying the jeet $100 dollars for $8 earphones, words cannot describe how much of a moron you are. You deserve to be homeless and have no money.
if someone wants maximum dynamic range and headroom, what are the available options if the amp/dac is an apple dongle?
sharur is a mindeless jeet
>>109223310>>109222470
>>109220624>>109220694Jumping in to second: I used a pair of HD600s I got for really cheap on Black Friday for about two years. I just got a pair of HD650s and I have to say, the other guy isn't exaggerating. There's nothing wrong with the 600s, but the 650 is just plain better-sounding.
>>109223525i think if you could only own one POS it should be the HD650s, theyre excellent all around what are we listening to tonight anons?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ST8AjLAms
That Super Review guy frequents this thread. Fuck you, Mark.
>>109223765>what are we listening to tonightGo ask in /mu/
>>109223811i wanted to know what music YOU like :^(
>>109223823ok I'll bite. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLy1F0NPv5grCs09P-1cT1QUNNknFFMoL&si=PRJBrH5Z33anSJMF
>>109223776Is it true?>>109223765Pat metheny - Orchestrion
>>109223837
>>109223842>Orchestrionholy based >>109223846>>109223837classic
>>109223765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlxN4fYhQB0, and it sounds beautiful out of my HD650s.
>>109223872kind of eerie, i like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOad7gNImac
>>109223025mysphere 3.2
onli teh realeasistick musekhttps://youtu.be/klIbWUR9wOc
every AI model recommends that i keep my money and it's not worth getting anything else because everything is basically a lateral move as opposed to an improvement from my current gear chain. is AI right?
>>109224900Currently, AI generates answers based on millions of artificially generated opinions. If it recommends a product, you can be sure that somewhere on the internet some Chinese guy with llm has generated thousands of entries, articles, etc. hidden behind content, these entries accidentally recommend his products as the best and to be recommended. Then stupid bot sucks that data into his stupid brain and recommends that to u.So AI is not right but its more right than if it would recommend u something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTanG9Gm1M
>>109224900>anything elsewhat do you have currently?
>>109224900IEMs are not CPUs, there's no grand performance metric that keeps growing every year. If it fits or looks better then it's an upgrade. The sound is just different flavors, and completely free if you EQ.
is it just one faggot trying to force this "pos" meme term
>>109225166you're new. pos has been the term for a while now.
>pleb doesn't have a pinnacle of sonority yet in his humble collection
>>109223823Only real music https://youtu.be/WchseC9aKTU
>>109225166Headpos Show fan detected
>>109225179It's GAY af. pos for pieces of shit
>>109208330big if true but>archimagowhy would I trust someone who names himself after a deceiver?
>>109225317>pos for pieces of shityes. that's what it means.
>>109225317It's important to not be too serious about your gear or you'll end up defending actual dogshit like hd600 for 30 years.
can anyone recomend me a long cable for truth ear hexas? i keep yanking them out of the socked, think i fucked the socket
Are we dicksucking Crin like reddit?
>>109205172i need a cheap wireless earbuds, i see moondrop space travel 2. Should i go for it?
>>109225823There is new one, moondrop pudding or something like that, check them
>>109225635we are sucking Super Review
>>109225884it's roughly double the price of space travel 2Hmm. I'll take the cheap one
dont fall for the wireless meme btw, get the bunnie dsp and call it a day
>>109225635show me who else achieved the flattest IEM and we'll talk
>>109205172>Blue Vidois there a particular reason for the blue one to be recommended? I think you need to change it with nicehck vido for the next threads, especially when searching google autocorrects it to blue video.>>109225823>cheap wirelessthat's a recipe for disaster
I want to buy the Softears Edge purely because of how they look but I can't justify a basshead iem just on looks because I already own the Thieaudio Origins
>>109226390>answering a different question. that's a non sequitur. crinear reference isn't really wowing anybody and "he made a flat iem" isn't the bombshell you think it is
>>109226922They look really uncomfortable, wtf is this angular design
fuck your iem shit, I listen through my speakers
>>109227253>isn't the bombshell you think it isyes it is
>>109226055How do these have DSP anyways? They have a DAC integrated in the cable or some shi?
>>109227878yes you connect them via usb-C
>>109227769no. it's not.
>>109228148if it wasn't we'd have much more flat POS and we don't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTwK0aeOcIA
>>109228207Brown "people" are a joke.
*BREAKING NEWS*new sony poshttps://fixupx.com/sonyelectronics/status/2074886553504006193?s=46
>>109228259agreed
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/peqdb-diamond-target-curve-new-stanford-white-paper.72109/The ASR moral crisis is CRAZY
>>109228318>science le bad
>>109228269I will not be buying anything snoy again
>>109228190>we'd have much more and we don'tit was just released a couple of months ago.that doesn't mean other companies won't follow with further refinement, selling at a fraction of its cost.
xixtas... i can feel my T dropping owo
>>109228357why not
>>109228269treble cannons for sure
>>109228269are they gonna stop making physical pos starting january 2027?
im as much a braindead consoomer as everyone ekse, but sometimes, i just cant justify the prices of some of this shit.
>>109228494I got burned by their shit products multiple times. last one was iems, left piece died and my rma was rejected.
>put expensive thing on>sounds good>put cheap thing on>sounds good>plug expensive thing in expensive source>sounds good>in cheap source>sounds good>cheap thing in expensive source>good>cheap and cheap>goodI'm so tired of this fuckass hobby. As long as it's not hissing and blowing up your pos and has the buttons and cables and holes you need it's good...
>>109229513it's diminishing returns for sure but get some fuckass headphones and they will make you hate life man
>>109229536I have the best headphones of all time already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuLsxq-iOPU
>>109229441I dunno, I have bought wf1000xm3 back in early 2021 and they still work fine
i have og galaxy buds pro that still hold more than enough hours of charge
>>109229545that doesn't make me jealous I'm on that audiophile speaker shit now
>>109229513literally every IEM has too much fucking treble and that's on top of length modes
>>109225089So much that I just bought Moondrop Variations, I think release was 2021 and it's been discontinued for a while. Shenzhen Audio still had a couple in stock.
>>109225823At less than 30 bucks, go ahead. It's my gym pair in case I ruin them with sweat and they're not bad at all. You can also download EQ profiles with the app.
I like fun sounding and not flat sounding pos
>>109230124flat=neutral=natural=fun
kek
>>109230241the harman target curve is a tad too trebly for me so after EQing to the target I add a high shelf at 5k
>>109230288NooOoOoO ! Knowles And PEQdB told me I need more treble than Harman ! ! ! Trust In SciencEeEeE
>>109230318>>109230318>>109230318
