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>>109210062I've already started saving my shekels for RDNA5 AT0, I think $2k oughta do it
>>109210074based
>>109210074I just gave up, I'm gonna play all my games at 1080p and use integer scaling on my UHD panels, simple as.
>>109210062what fucking monstrosity is that, and what would you even want to use it for?
>>109210062bumping in bed >>109208556If I don't reply its cause I'm sleeping.
The disks on my Fractal pop air run this hot. There's no mount for a fan down there, and there's not much space. What can I do to improve the temps? Is it too retarded changing the case? This one is starting to feel small.
>>109210207Zip tie a 60mm fan onto your hdd?
>>109210180amd is based and their chipsets are basically just pcie repeaters so you can stack them.>>109210207what is the ambient temperature
Downsides of buying a used RM850x? https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM850x-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/B0DJ1JL3MK?th=1
>>109210207changing the case, fans and cooling is the only affordable thing you can still do in pc building these days, just buy a case you like.TRYX for style points if you really wanna go flashy.
>>109210252aside from the obvious, there's literally a newer model listed underneath the listing, that is cheaper, wtf is wrong with you?
>>109210228High 20s to low 30s in summer. The room is hot.
>>109210262Cheaper? Where? I don't see a newer listing for a new model.
>>109210260But where do the HDDs go?
A few questions:1) Where the FUCK is Seteve's review of Noctua's AIO? Fucking GAYmernexus;2) How good/bad thermal paste reviews from Igor's Lab? I ordered a tube of Halnziye HY-P17 because of the glowing reviews, but Igor's Lab is basically the only site that tested it. Some random people do praise it as well, but it's so niche it makes it seem Igor's Lab found it under a rock randomly;3) Fractal North XL Mesh fan setup: 3x140 intake front (AIO), 2x140 intake mesh, 2x140 exhaust top, 1x140 exhaust back. Sounds good?
>>109210314if you want HDDs in a case like this check the HVN HS420, Phantek NV7 or 9
>>109210373Igor's lab paste reviews are among the best in the industry, if they say it's good then it's good.
>>109210373Why the XL? It is better performance wise to install the AIO up top.
What is the consensus on NZXT as a company? Are they tainted?
If all I play is fps esports slop, do I get a 540hz oled or a g-sync pulsar monitor?
>>109211069Both will work, pulsar is better clarity but its 1st gen stuff and kinda expensive for ips contrast levels in 2026.Id get oled for the all rounder perf
>>109210909That's good news>>109211025>Why the XL?XL is bigger and it's what I have.My main reference point is GAYmernexus review to be honest, but it looked like it had a good feature set and I was eyeing swapping to 140mm fans, and that case supports them.>It is better performance wise to install the AIO up top.Probably, but up top supports 360mm maximum and I wanted 420mm.
>>109210260>changing the case, fans and cooling is the only affordable thing you can still do in pc building these daysIt's really only RAM, storage, GPUs and some (mostly older) lines of CPU that have gone up in price.
>if I want 4 monitors and more than 8GB VRAM I basically have to start at 9070sThanks.
>>109211069The Asus pulsar monitor enforces DSC and it works only at 75 or higher FPS as it uses DP 1.4. Their 540hz OLED looks fancier and DP 2.1 allows you to disable DSC but it has slightly less text clarity, outside of black e.g. grey you can see the dots and all the OLED Care crap like pixel shift is tedious. The VRR flicker is also noticeable if you use VRR with instable frame rates. Maybe 2gen pulsar will fix some of the issues but at least Asus seems to have trouble already releasing a firmware update to enable 60 Hz pulsar. If you can get the pulsar monitor at a nice price I'd take it over the OLED but I also think latter is over hyped as fuck
>>109211205can you fuck off with your schizo spam
>>109211212Oh sorry I thought this is /pcbg/ and not the dick sucking general. Anon asked for advice and I have both monitors here so whatever
meta said that the AI development is not going well and then said they would be leasing AI hardware which should be a trigger for the stock to melt because they are literally giving up on AI and they spent all their money on it, but the banks said the stock is "cheap" and it should go up, that's how deep we are into the bubble now, the banks are being complicit because if one company fails it'll all fall like a domino so they are lying in their reports to keep the pump going, I 100% believe it'll burst much sooner than people expect, still in 2026.
a little something showed up in the mail upgrading from a Ryzen 5 5600
>>109211358you spending a lot on new mobo and arm makes it weird you didnt get the higher end 270k cpu while you're at it
>>109211286>meta said that the AI development is not going well and then said they would be leasing AI hardware which should be a trigger for the stock to melt because they are literally giving up on AI and they spent all their money on it, but the banks said the stock is "cheap" and it should go up, that's how deep we are into the bubble now, the banks are being complicit because if one company fails it'll all fall like a domino so they are lying in their reports to keep the pump going, I 100% believe it'll burst much sooner than people expect, still in 2026.When are the wolfs going to eat the boy?
>>109211374november 26, after drumpf loses both houses in the election
>>109211381>november 26, after drumpf loses both houses in the electionOkay, that's more believable.
>>109211372maybe, didn't want to skimp on mobo and needed to save money somewhere, and i'd like to overclock a little and it'll be easier with fewer cores.
>>109211404that's a very efficient cpu
>>109211069Pulsar is not a esport monitorIf you esport you are not running vrr and you want higher fps than 360so oled wins by default as you will have lower latency and a faster native panelwill the difference be huge? maybe not but oled is betterPulsar is for boomers who like clarityIf I were you wait for the 4k360 monitor as it's the best all in one monitor since u can run 1440p540 and 1080p680hzthat combined with scaling mode gives u 24" 27" 32" whatever you want
>>109211515Real esports fps gamers play 4:3 anyways anon
>>109211286 (me)they are getting desperate, it's gonna burst
>>109211525>reduces your fovnothin personelldoes not work in certan gaimes either like valorant and dogshit like thatthat is irrelevant though
>>109211358>single tower air cooler in the year of our lord 2026
It has gotten so bad that physical ownership of the hardware doesn't necessarily even mean you can use it. An example is the Samsung Gear VR.Currently, the device is unusable because Meta discontinued the software that allows it to function. What's worse is that it automatically "updates" with a zero-byte update that essentially bricks the VR headset even if you have the compatible smartphone for the device. Without an elaborate 'hack,' to make the device work, and a firewall on the phone to prevent an update, the device is just a paperweight. Yes, it's 10 years old, and it's really not great compared to the modern VR headsets, but people should be allowed to use it if they own it. All the games, movies, and apps you bought for the platform are basically all GONE, unless you buy a new headset. There was nearly ZERO cost for Meta to keep this running, as it used the same back-end servers for the file servers that updated their current VR headsets. But the existence of it also meant a lot of people didn't "upgrade" to the new headset because it still worked well enough for VR movies. It's already happening with smart speakers, where the Spotify car thing was bricked when cloud support ended, or the Oral-B smart toothbrush was also killed after connectivity was discontinued. Same with certain printers, and device pairing forced incompatibilities. Now imagine the same thing with electric cars, where it auto-updates a bricking update that essentially kills the car from functioning, on a smart TV, or even home appliances.... all because the manufacturers want to force you to buy a new one. It's gonna get worse without comprehensive consumer protection laws, and the whole thing is that physical media is a small sidebar when it comes to how massive the problem is ALREADY!The current reality is that even if you own the PHYSICAL HARDWARE, they can still revoke the functionality of it...
>>109211581if you don't login to sony every 36 months they remove your account and all your purchased games+medianot a problem with tvs, they will break before they update it anyway kek
>>109211542the copium is actually unbelievable, I'm really starting to thing something bad is going to happen
>>109211581>Internet of shit is... Shitchop chop anon pay the subscription to get the full advertised speed and access to the AC of your new car. Your fridge doesn't have an internet connection? Too bad it will shut down now because fuck you
>>109211581I was going to buy a meta quest and I didn't because I just know zuckerberg can to pull a jew any time he wants and he'll do itI'm going to get the steam frame once the demand for it slows down next year
>>109211581I know it's not a popular opinion with Republicans, but if Gavin Newsome can get into office, he would pass many many pro consumer laws.
Give it to me straight, is my 6400 mhz ram going to burn my 7800x3d up?
>>109211358>he fell for the intel platform
Nearly five years after its original launch, the GeForce RTX 3060 12GB is back on sale in the USNewegg is now selling MSI’s RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC for $329.99 and bringing one of NVIDIA’s most popular RTX 30-series graphics cards back to retail.The RTX 3060 is still popular due to its 12GB of VRAM, which helps in some newer games and creative apps.
>>109210074Is there a qrd for tards? AMD is doing flagship GPUs again or will the 6090 be the most powerful thing on the market again?
>>109211542>>109211599Yeah, looks like openAI will be the big one to crash first. They are getting destroyed by anthropic when it comes to actually paying customers and they have a lot of leeching free users. They will IPO too late, since spaceX will dump as soon as they submit their report end of july. This will deflate the hype so people won't take on all the debt of openAI.Although the first significant AI crash was arguably oracle. Down more than 50% (that overvaluation was from AI hype)
>>10921164296CU, 512bit bus, GDDR7 so could either be 32gb or 48gb.RDNA 3 to RDNA 4 uplift was 30-40%, 96CU RDNA 4 would be at least above 4090 tier, the AMD flagships performance will likely be above the 6080 depending on the RDNA 4 to RDNA 5 uplift.
>>109211671I think the 7900xtx had the same specs, in a different architecture
>>1092116857900XTX had 96CU but 384bit bus on GDDR6Flagship RDNA5 should be at least 5090 tier but its gonna be better than it because it has more featureset (DX13)
*sleeps in cryochamber hyperpod until next gpu release*
I ask again, why did the 4090/5090's wire melt?>>109209521It's not too small, you can run loads of DC through such wires.>>109209590"nothing to do with frequencies"oh, computers have nothing to do with frequency?
What if Jensen is the good guy and he's only melting the gpus of pedos?
>>109211599>stronger AI demand By who? It's not consumers. Every company that was semi interested in AI already jumped on the train and now a lot of them are ditching the idea because they magically thought AI could do everything a person could. The latest big AI catastrophe being Ford.
>>109211671But isn't there an uplift in the next gen of the Nvidia series as well with the smaller node size?
>>109211581>It has gotten so bad that physical ownership of the hardware doesn't necessarily even mean you can use it.That's a skill issue, if you own a knife, with an accompanying subscription to a knife sharpening buissness and the knife sharper retires the buisness after 10 years that's entirely fair. And if you don't have the wherewithal to buy another knife or the mind to maintain your old one, that's on you.
>>109211754Okay but what if the knife owner decides to go stab the owner of the knife sharpening business?
How do you feel knowing that half of 9800X3D RMAs are because people cannot read their manual to reset CMOs?
>>109211671if the 10090xtx is actually good, i'll replace my 5090 astral with one and switch to linux while at it
Yet another L for AIApparently if you send Grid based images on discord (Minecraft inventory etc) due to a critical failure in discords AI system, it’ll ban accounts for CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material)Thankfully I’ve not been banned but be very careful discord users
Sony’s PlayStation Terms of Service state that buying a game doesn’t mean you own the software itself. According to the agreement, words like “buy,” “purchase,” and “own” don’t transfer ownership of the game’s intellectual property. Instead, you’re given a license to use it, which can be revoked under certain conditions.That’s why physical game ownership has become a major topic and everyone is fiighting for this
Okay, I think this needs to be said. I hear it repeated often that window's 11 is a memory hog and uses way more memory at idle then Linux. Here's the idle resources used by a fresh install of a fully updated Windows 11 compared to the resources used by a fresh install of a fully updated CachyOS. As you can see the difference in idle memory usage is 180MB. So Windows 11 idle memory usage is practically the same as Arch Linux in KDE. I understand that Windows 11 has issues and I want to see those issues fixed. But when the majority of problems Windows has are just exaggerations of reality it's not helpful. It's almost like there's a faction of people that don't actually want Windows to get fixed but want to scare people into not using it.
>>109211712The 4090 and 5090 use the new 12VHPWR 2x6 pin + 4 connector rated for up to 600w with the standard technically allowing 9.5A per pin so 684w max. Thing is the GPUs don't have any kind of load balancing so the power draw follows the rules of physics that can lead to idiotic imbalanced ampere distributions that leads to overheating of individual pins to the point they melt. Why it happens? Some people fucked up plugging the cable all the way in which is why we have now ATX 3.1 that mitigates this a little by having longer pins but the cable itself, the way it's bend and other factors can still cause ampere imbalance to the point shit melts.
>>109211793I personally don't see the RAM usage argument often in the whole "switch to Linux" debate.I recommend Linux over windows for various reasons.- Linux is snappier and faster on the same hardware.- I get better FPS in games on Linux vs Windows.- Linux respects your privacy, no telemetry, tracking, selling your data, or training models against your will.- Linux and apps are free.
>>109211358>>109211372she's alive>>109211576it's a dual towerThis thing is crazy fast, all stock it basically doubled my FPS in hitman 3 from my 5600. I also think i got a fairly good sample, this had a stock voltage of like 1.18
>>109211712you know what else has to do with computers? barons. barons must be causing the cables to melt
>>109211814it's doing 5.4ghz across all p-cores for sustained loads on stock voltage
gigabyte 4090 gaming oc, used for 2.5yrspsu unknownnvidia 16pin adapter used16pin melted
"I won't buy the top-of-the-line model of the next generation of graphics cards."galax 5090d general, used for 1yrasus loki 1000w atx3, used for 3yrs (4090->5090d)16pin melted (psu side)red flag:black screen
>>109211671what's the lithography? 3nm?
>>109211785It's always been like that. Buying the disk doesn't give you the right to (commercially) alter the code, use game assets, to rip and reuse the soundtrack or the work of the voice actors etc.
>>109211855Asus has some of the worst regular 12v2x6 cables that exist. Their terminals aren't fixed giving them 1 to 2 mm play but this can fuck the distribution hard. I used them for one year myself till I saw the voltage sensing ampere values getting closer to the 9.2A on single pins, the point where the software alarms. Their new equaliser seems to be better regards of build quality.
had a random crash and reboot, probably the GPU, would it be the memory overclock instability or the undervolt?
>>109211744yes there will be, but Nvidia seems to be intent on cutting down the 80 series>>109211905yeah AMD and Nvidia are both going to N3
>>109211712formula for power absorptionP = I2 (current) × R (resistance)the more power absorption, the more heat. the more heat, the higher the resistance, which exarcerbates that shit. so if your wire is heating up at the contacts then resistance will skyrocket which will increase the power and heat until shit meltsnow add people not plugging in shit properly = also increases resistance which increases power and heat and cable meltingnow add power draw being nearly at the limit for the ratings for cables. and some cards having no per pin sensing...a lot of melted cables
>>109211905TSMC N3P
>>109211917chatgpt said it's probably the undervolt so I toned it down 5mv
7900xtx had 12 ram chips, if they keep the same number and use 3gb gddr7 chips it'll have 36gb ram, which I think is very plausible since AMD is always skimping on something
>>109210074Will there be an rdna5? or will it be udna?
>>109212045amd engineers call it rdna5 while amd marketers call it udnait refers to the same generation of gpus
>>109211953You are not scientific.You can put a massive amount of dc through that cable.Go ahead and try it.
>>109212049(giggles in Taliban)he said rdna5
>>109212009AT0 has 16 memory controllers, 1 for each ram module.
>>109212059so it's like the 5090, with 16 ram chips, then it's either 32gb with 2gb chips or 48gb with 3gb chipsa lower binned card with 36gb vram and 12chips is totally plausible to happen as well
>>109210202I tried bumping my question but I guess if you just type "bump" the system auto-filters it...
>>109212055no cable can consume a massive shitton of current, because none of them are ideal circuits and will always experience resistance and hence will eventually overheat and melt. you are totally wrong.
>>109212055well then enlighten us? nobody will take you seriously when you mumble "high frequency" without explaining the context
>>109212072>>109212081>(You)s
>>109212090double nigger
new parts just arrived
>>109212090anon...
>>1092121328gb ddr2? that probably costs a fortune
>>10921214050 gbp on aliexpress i made a new account with my mums details to get it half price kek
>>109212081>>109212072gemini seems to fall back on the connector, saying it's the issue.I can tell you that it's not the wire. The wire can take way more than your psu will deliver to it.
>>109211909>Buying the disk doesn't give you the right to>(commercially) alter the code, use game assetsTrue>to rip and reuseYou're allowed to do that. But not making copies for others (usually)The difference is with a disk your usage of the game cannot be taken back. You can also resell it to someone else.
>>109212168yeh it's the contactsand those cables often have multiple contacts
>>109212009if the chokes on the board arent black assume they coil whine like hell
>>109212055>You can put a massive amount of dc through that cable.Cable, yes. The cable itself is not burning, it's the connector.>>109212081>>109212072>>109212168
>>109212068yeah I assume that would be the 10080 and the flagship will be the 10080XT
rdna3 was such a awful generation
>>109212428Rdna3 had no transistor density for some reason and regressed/stagnated in performance per clock compared to rdna2
>>1092124289060xt is overclocked, 7800xt is reference.this guys channel is weird he has his rdna3 cards all under the fuck clock. 7900xtx reference clock is 2500mhz+ but here its running at 2.3ghz.
>>109212481It's running at low frequency because it hits power limit even at that frequency. It all depends on the workload.
>>1092124817900xtx should have had a 450w stock limit
>>109212096>>109212138The guy you're responding too for some reason is giving me the (You) tag when it actually isn't me. VPN-kun plz, my internet rep is all I have!
>>109212533>>109212545the reference model hits 2500mhz in every game and often higher. in no world it should be operating at 2.2-2.3ghz with amd reference or custom dogshit model.
>>109212428there was a hardware bug that AMD swept under the rug which is why the uplift to RDNA4 was so large, because they basically fixed the RDNA3 bug and then then the RDNA4 uplift on top
>>109212574>>109212545>>109212533You guys dumb?
>>109212579Welcome to /g/ retarded iphone babies everywhere from SEA/EU.
>>109212546Right click in 4chan x and it should give you an option to uncheck the post as being yours
mlid needs to start leaking rdna6, I dont like that rdna5 is in ancient 3nm.6 I assume will be 2nm and 7 1.4nm.I think 6 sounds like a good purchase.
>>109212579not at all, the only uplift RDNA3 had was from the node shrink going to N5, there was no IPC uplift.
>>109212597Even GeForce will be on ancient 3nmIt's over for pc gaming
>>109212597I assume its also in N6 and N4, its meant to be modular again
>>109212568It will often drop clocks if you are playing RT titles. You can also make it drop clocks if you run stress tests like Furmark. In my testing lowering clock from 2800MHz to 2400MHz on the core lowers the performance by less than 10%.
when do you think RDNA5 will come out? all I need to finish my build is a GPU
>>109212622mid 27
>>109212622After nV releases 6xxx.
>>109211286>>109211542>>109211599I have always said, and will continue to say, OpenAI will go bankrupt and the market will crash.now since they've delayed their IPO to 2027, it's not happening this year, unless they go belly up before going public.
>>109212597for amd gpu doesn't make money, only cpu.
Hi guys, quick question. Problem with HP ProDesk 400 G6 Mini (i5-10500T):It gradually freezes (apps stop responding one by one) in both Balanced and High Performance modes. The mouse sometimes moves, but the keyboard doesn't respond.I've already tried:Updating the BIOSReplacing the thermal pads and thermal pasteTesting with Fedora and UbuntuRemoving RAM (8GB and 16GB)Temperatures are low (max 55°C).Has anyone else had a similar problem? I suspect the VRM or the power supply.
>>109212622more than a year away...
>>109212679Run memory checks.
>>109212679yes, power supply, sounds like a voltage issue, could be the cpu too
>>109212679check the voltages with hwinfo and ask AI if they are normal
>>109212622Get a 9070xt or 5070ti to use as a temporary GPU while waiting for rdna5. It's not expected to come out anytime soon
>>109212686>>109212687ok i will do a extended memory test and change the power supply. Thanks for replying >>109212694okk ill do it
>>109211515I mainly play pubg with 83-84 fov so I do a lot of camera panning. I'll have to check my fps on a replay with capframex to see what it looks like. At 240 fps it looks way more clear than qd-oled on the monitors unboxed review. I've also been playing arena breakout infinite which has a 240 fps cap.I also really casually play fortnite no build. I had a pg27aqn before and the ulmb2 mode looked amazing when you could get steady fps at or above target, but when I tried to play games with it would give me fatigue because of the variable frame rate dropping (I think).540hz oled would be better if you can get 500+ fps consistently across all the games.
My prediction is that AT0 will have 8 graphics tiles, AT3 will have 2 graphics tiles, AT4 will have 1 graphic tile and will be APU only.These tiles will each have 12CU and be identical.AT2 will have 4 graphic tiles with 10CU and these tiles will also be used in the PS6 SOC
>>109212616RT titles there are going above base clock.
Does $120 seem like a fair price for 16GB (2x8GB) of DDR4 4000Mhz CL14 RAM?
>>10921281116 is not enough desu, I'd rather get 32 with worse timingsdon't know if the price is good
>>109212843I'm selling it, not buying it. I want it to sell fast but wanna get at least 75% of its market value.I'm also wondering if selling my 4th gen i7 system with a 1060 in it and selling the 2070 inside of it separately is a decent idea.
>>109212868are they samsung B dies? I assume those are expensive now but only enthusiats would seek and pay for them
>>109212774Shader array tiles N3Multimedia engine tile N4MCDs N6
>>109212881Yes, they are, but I doubt they're fetching THAT much of a premium, since amount of RAM is usually more important 90% of the time than speed.
>>109212811too cheap4000cl14 1.55v's are top tier b-dies
>>109212976What seems fair for them?
>>109212992if you have the original packaging, $250 seems fair
how safe is it to bet on requirements for PC games stagnating for the next 2-3 years?
>>109213025No original packaging. $250 has to be way too high. I do need this shit to actually sell.
>>109213063$150-170 should movejust advertise it as 3733 cl14-14-14 capable or something since that's what ryzen users are looking for
>>109213050you will buy geforce now.
>>109213076What do you think not having the original packaging knocks off the price?
>>109213050You would lose money on that bet.
>>109213050lol? they're all requiring rtx/ptx now.
>>109211855psus melting psu side is not uncommon, better that than gpu sidemight be due to old psu standards or some shithappened same to the bald youtber erockontechmight be bad psusidkim not an engineerthe gpu probably unaffected>>109211841all these are fomo spread by poorfags but it's kinda effectiveI would be nervous keeping a 90 tier above the warranty ageimagine holding a 4-6k Brick gpu when the warranty goes kaputliterally overconsidering a 50% performance gpu cost 4-5x lessit does not make sense anymoreunless... you are rich of course where burning up 6k gpus does not matter for you>>109211814I wouldnt buy a dual tower in todays day and ageway too unc>>109211785they also delete your account if afk for 3 years
>>109212589I'm not on 4chanx
why do amd cpus feel slower on the desktop than intel? i know they are better at gaming but why is dragging windows on the desktop slower
>>109212679mangled keyboard cable
>>109213239because you forgot to set your monitor's refresh rate and resolution.
>>109210068CPU in a penis cage, from derCucker even
will there be a successor to RTX 6000 Prothat would be the card im taking to my grave
technically speaking replacing the VRM thermal pads with best possible putty or pads should improve their temps by a lot since the all use 5w/k shitty pads, I should do that in the next pc I build
is the peerless assassin 120 still the king of air cooling?i need a new cooler for my mobo upgrade and i will never use an AIO
>>109213538thermalright and deepcool both make some amazing coolers, there are many options
>gpu routinely runs "hot" under load>43c right now (rendering videos) but commonly hitting 70C+ while playing vidya, even older stuff that shouldn't be kicking its ass>fans go into jet engine turbo modeI know the heat is well within spec and I /could/ adjust the fan curves so they don't ramp up so hard at "only" 70c, but from the perspective of the gpu working and not caring about the annoying noise, is there anything to worry about here? Repasting is an option but looks risky, but I also don't want to just ignore it if being below 85C but still hot all the time is a big concern. At these prices, I'd rather avoid having to buy anything to replace it.
>>109213695But what's the hotspot at?
Which case will be in your next m-ATX build?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sxUFpIQHUI
>>109213695could be a poor fan/cooler setup a decent 3 fan gpu should be relatively quietYou might want to repaste it with putty + ptm padreinstall windows/ddu to ensure its not some driver failureuse msi afterburner to undervolt and cap fanspeed to 90%or buy a 5070 which is max perf per watt option
>>109212694>>109212687>>109212687I solved the freezing issue on my HP 400 G6 Mini:After testing and ruling out several possibilities (charger, temperatures, thermal pads, RAM, drivers, OS—I tried Ubuntu and Fedora), I discovered that the culprit was the pre-installed 32GB Intel Optane module.After disabling it in the BIOS, the computer now runs stably even in High Performance mode. It’s been running for several hours without freezing.Lesson learned: Sometimes Optane modules cause conflicts in Linux.thanks to all!!!
>>109213760I'd like the jonsbo z20, but I'm in the middle of a big gay machine rn so I shouldn't be looking to the future
>>109213745Hotspot reports as high as 115C under load according to hwinfo, but a lot of sources also say hot spot is inaccurate, doesn't matter, shouldn't be part of the equation, etc.>>109213781A 5070 would be a downgrade. I'm running a 4080 Super, Asus TUF brand.
>>109213760when is this slut releasing?
>>109213822Curiously, the hotspot delta is well within spec when it's only under a fairly light load, e.g. video rendering.
>>109214065Meanwhile, here's it under heavy load.
>>109213822>but a lot of sources also say hot spot is inaccurate, doesn't matter, shouldn't be part of the equation, etc.It's literally the hottest part of the die. It can say a lot about what potential cooling issues you might have.
>get myself an OLED>pixel cleaning prompt>whatever just start it>continue to work on my second monitor>pixel cleaning gets stuck after finishing and only responds to shut down despite it recognizing signal lost when I turn off the PC>contact support>after going through multiple tests with different cables and whatever nothing works>notice when I turn off second display it works but this crashes GPU monitor application>get an idea>current second monitor runs DSC>I replace it with an old display that doesn't run it using the same cable>everything just worksDSC schizo my arse. I dont care whether it's microsofts incompetence or Nvidias but there have been issues with DSC in a multi-monitor setup using nvidia since forever and I doubt they will ever manage to fix them.
I need help figuring out if an Arctic Cooler 36 will block a TeamGroup Delta RGB RAM from being used on my MSI b650m Gayming WiFi..... the dimensions are all fucked up and Tomshardware is saying that the Arctic Cooler is small enough that it doesn't block any RAMs, but Arctic cooler specifies ram clearance of 44mm... I don't want to order the ramsticks open them and then have to return them...
the 250k plus is great, but holy shit this platform is annoying to tweak
Let's celebrate the 20th anniversary of crappy Nvidia 680i chipset boards.
>>109214337>WARNING! ONCE ROG FOREVER ROG
>>109213050It's a safe bet, as long as you don't want to play with PT. The only actually good PT card is the 5090, although the 5070 Ti is usable. If you just want to play games, a 5070 non-Ti will be great for the next two to three years. PS6 exclusives will bump up the requirements (and who knows when those will hit the market, considering the likely low PS6 install base due to shortage and pricing), but at this point, "requirements" is more about image quality standards than anything else, since all demanding games use DLSS. There can be some variance in the input resolution required to get subjectively good image quality (e.g., some games/engines look better at 4K Balanced over 4K Performance), but generally speaking a 1080p 60 FPS input is all you need, and you can easily get that on a 5070 even in the most demanding games if you don't insist on max settings and don't mind tweaking a few settings like volumetric fog.
>>109212622My guess would be about a year and a half from now, around the PS6 launch. The fact that we're finally getting Supers indicates that this is going to be a LONG generation (not to mention AI sucking all the computing resources)
Does any air cooler actually let the 9950X3D run under 100% load without throttling? Without the AMD propaganda that 95°C is "normal"
>>109212428RDNA1 - 3 were all complete garbage. I'm really glad RDNA3 finally got FSR4, but that doesn't retroactively make those cards a good purchase. Years without better than native image quality at higher performance than full resolution cannot be forgiven or forgotten. I haven't checked the used market, but a 7800 XT might be a good poorfag card if it could be found for super cheap
>>109214422>I haven't checked the used marketAnd I just checked, they're selling for almost 500 USD. Garbage at that price.
>>109211917Usually unstable GPU tweak will just crash the game (at least on Windows with Nvidia). If the whole system reset, probably system memory in my opinion.
Are halo motherboards going down in price? I have a 12900ks and 7200MT/s 48GB motherboard from before the (((rampocalypse))) and it's on a mid tier motherboardThinking about getting a halo motherboard if they went down since no one buys PC parts anymore kek
>>109211638I would rather have FG for gaming (e.g., a 5060, which is substantially faster anyway). Worth noting that on 8 GB cards FG can require extra optimization. 3060 12 GB is better for AI if you need the memory, even with its inferior tensor cores
just buy a air cooler bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMc-Qz8c5As
>>109214517Like a air-con?
>>109214517>holds a lapel microphone like thisNot listening to anything this retard says.
>>109214517there I saved you 12 minutes
>>109214605> $50 air cooler reaches 68.9c while your $259,99 aio reaches 62.6clol
>>109214615Erm, that means it can boost 0.1GHz higher!
>>109211212how bad is DSC? I hear it memed about a bit but RTINGS says its not an issue.DP 2.1 monitors demand a pretty huge premium rn
>Noctua literally mentioned that Air Cooling is way more porwerful in the long run because most AIOs PMW fans just suck ass and dont exhaust heat enough out.
>>109214655not an issue with single monitor. Multi-Monitor setup on the other hand it can cause all sorts of retarded issues
>>109214669Not him, but multimonitor setups cause all kinds of retarded issues in general
>>109214679true especially with different resolutions and hz but DSC makes it worse
Just snagged two pairs of authentic Samsung 18650s from a shady dealer. Feeling pretty lucky, gonna buy a lotto ticket later.
>>109214453don't know how much more you can get out of that setupIMC is a big limiter on 12th gen
>>109214669I just got a second monitor with my PG32UDCP as my primary and a 4080 SuperHaven't had any issues yet.Using HDMI on the PG32 and a DP to HDMI cable for the secondary
>>109214237bumpo
>>109211638Should have called it RTX 3060 Return Of the King 5 Year Anniversary Edition
>>109211638That's so sad :(
In the pandemic I wanted to buy a 3060.I'm glad I didn't.I think I almost bought a Dell one lmao
i have made the decision to remove my two side monitors and install steamOS so i can have a gaming focus mode only and in that decision i will also plan to tr5ansition my build to a SSF fractal design ridge build now for everyone to yell at me about how bad of an idea this is
>>109215036>Not just building a coompod to replace your bedYou deserve to be yelled at.
>>109215036fine idea if you don't value playing games with aggressive anticheat.some games work on linux but have annoying quirks you will have to deal with.I think windows is releasing a 'launch to xbox mode' thing soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ-saJoTl3Mconsider the ncase T1 if you want to go sub 10L
>>109214337>crappy Nvidia 680i chipset boardsthe first ROG was an awesome nForce 590 board though
>>109210062Are there "generic computer arms" I can buy? My current set up is A BenQ 24" (1920x1080) as my primary monitor an old Samsung 7" tv screen (1440x900), I glanced at the back and saw that they most likely both have different anchoring mechanisms and I was wondering is it possible to get some sort of arm pack that comes with a bunch of common back attachments so I can mount these two?
>>109215082I know windows will bloat the fuck out of this program but wasn't there an anon in here or a previous thread talking about how its nearly impossible to play multiplayer games because of the time wine/proton takes to translate?
>>109215029whats wrong with the 3060? I bought the 12gb one because my 660ti couldn't run elden ring. its been working great for me
>>109214668> Noctua say
>>109215147not sure broadly but overwatch had issues where you have to load your full shader cache on every game launch for 15 mins. I thought some vulcan translation shit was meant to fix it but I see people complain about it still on protondb.LOL + valo + R6 simply dont work bc anticheatapex and cs work fine.
>>109211581the cyberlink powerdvd 14 software i paid like 100$ for back in 2013/14 won't let me play blu rays anymore. says I need to 'update' the software but its a paid update. im never spending money on software again.
>>109214615A $50 air cooler will literally cook and throttle my 16-core while making terrible noise.
>>109214668does that mean the Noctua A14x25 G2 fans that come with the ProArt and Noctua AIO are garbage?
>>109212146>made a new account with my mums detailsAli literally exists for data collection, you lost on that deal.
>>109215036thats basically what im doing except im probably going with the fractal terra case and cachy os. sff have come such a long way. I can run nightreign in 1440p at high+ settings with a setup drawing ~300watts, which is all ill ever need out of my PC. im looking forward to being able to 'hide' the pc where my kids can't fuck with it. my daughter loaded up my 67 liter atx case with a bunch of coins one time when I wasn't around lol
>used to be a reputable news source and tech reviewer>now is nothing but another shallow engagement bait farm>doesn't even want to review hardware anymore, only bitch and moan 24/7Where do (You) go to get raw hardware tests (including cases and fans) and tech news without being reminded how fucked the world is or hearing yet another "Microslop" ragebait segment? Even the old tech publications are falling victim to this shit, though admittedly TechPowerUp has been fairly mild on it recently compared to others.
>>109215299I mean I know what you mean but I feel like he's not wrong when he says we're rapidly approaching the death of personal gaming computers and that's probably something he cares a lot about
>>109215109It's all just vesa, there's nothing to be concerned about. You'll see that there's a square set of screw holes in the back of everything.
>>109215299arent hwbuster and igorslab alright?
>>109215299>doesn't want to review hardwarethere is no hardware to review, but youtube demands that the content continues to happen. What else would you propose he do?
>>109215305If his conspiracy theory was true, Nvidia wouldn't be trying to resurrect Ampere and AMD wouldn't resurrect AM4 CPU's. He's just a moping faggot that's mad he's not getting free CPU's and GPU's that are newest and greatest, so he's throwing a temper tantrum like a petulant child. RTX Spark is another example of the industry still giving a shit, otherwise they wouldn't waste money on R&D of such products, but gamers will bitch and moan about everything it seems.Personal computing isn't dying, it's in a recession. In two years you'll be getting your RTX 60 series and Ryzen 10000 CPU's, and Steve is gonna eat shit for what he did to his brand. Wouldn't be surprised if he throws a hissy fit and refuses to review the 60 series.>>109215315Don't become an insufferable cunt that runs his mouth about topics you don't know shit about? Other news outlets managed to do it, other YouTube channels managed to do it, but not Steve apparently. Instead he decided to shit all over his reputation of a respectable trustworthy investigative journalist to regurgitate clickbait headlines and dramabait to keep up the engagement, so I wish him nothing but the worst now, he did this to himself.
>>109211778>parroting unfounded tranny plebbitor memesShiggy
Stuck/dead subpixel means I should return the screen, right? No voodoo bullshit will "heal" this pixel. I won't massage it like a fucking retard.
>>109212132>SODIMM DDR2>newretard
Can I ask about mice in here? Is the endgame gear XM2 any good? I want a plain looking wired mouse that's smooth when moving around and without any lights. Basically, a wired gaming mouse without the gaming look. Does a mouse like that exist?
>>109215382there are tons of lightweight LED free chinkshit mice but they are all wireless. You can run them in wired mode with 1k polling limit which is more than enough but some anons don't want a battery in their mice. I wanted originally wired as well till I tried the wireless mode and haven't gone back since then.
>>109215361new to me
>>109215382xm2 is great. Why are you opposed to wireless?
>>109213695>>109214065>>109214108Extremely high GPU hotspot temp is a known issue with some RTX 4000 ASUS cards.If you decide to repaste it yourself, be careful when opening up the cooler (if you want to re-use the thermal pads).I suggest a good phase change pad like PTM7950 (longer lasting) or MX7.https://www.igorslab.de/en/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-tuf-gaming-with-serial-error-built-in-hotspot-ex-works-material-analysis-and-the-rescue/
>>109215299uhhmmm ackshually chud...
>>109214237>>109214237>>109214908Just raise the CPU cooler's fan clip higher up if there's clearance issues.Buy the Scythe Kotetsu Mk 3 or Mugen 6 Dual Fan Edition if you want an alternative that's guaranteed to work with any board memory slots.
>>109215305niggas have been yelling at the clouds about the end of days forever. he's just a luddite that doesn't know how to transition to the new meta.
>>1092142105000 series solved alot by fixing the ports so they dnt need to use 2 display heads or whatever to work with dscdsc schizo is still very retardedyou can also try plugging your second monitor into igpu which allegedly is alot better
>>109215280if i could put gamemode on cachy i would run it but everything i have looked up just looks like a "less than" hack more than anything
>>109214210DSC literally sucks ass. It disables MPO features and makes your mouse feel heavier than it should because the GPU has to compress every frame.
>>109215676>t. Goyslop enjoyer
Been tuning my 250k all day, been slow, haven't had to do any actual tuning for many years, and it's a new platform. underclocked and undervolted P-cores to 4.8stock E-coresNGU 33 and D2D 32cl30 6000 kit at cl36 7200 (need to tweak this more but this was easy)-.080 offsets on core, and -.050 on VCCSA and VCC core voltage. So like 1.020 or something under load. Maxing out at low 70s in cinebench on this Thermalright Phantom Spirit in a case with fairly constrained airflow desu.It's running very well for me now, the gains over my 5600 are insane.
>>1092158515.3 single thread is a meme btw i have pretty much never seen it ever happen. Most programs do 2 or more cores so it tops out at 5.1 in 99% of cases
>>109212673you're forgetting the consoles use AMD, it makes money, just not as lucrative as CPU
>>109215851>the gains over my 5600 are insaneThey should be considering you upgraded to something 3 gens newer, it's like going from a 3060 to a 5070ti.
How much can I price this system for:-Asus Maximus Hero VI-Intel Core i7-4770k-24GB DDR3-2833 (3x8GB)-Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super-2TB storage (1TB HDD and 1TBSSD)
>>1092159095 dollars
>>109215851>-.050 on VCCSAalways use a static SA voltagemakes memory tuning 100x easier>the gains over my 5600 are insaneobviouslyzen 3 in 2026 is ass
>>109215851What are your full spces? I saw the photo but I didn't see your gpu.
>>109215933I'll look into it, thanks Anon>>109215938It's an Asrock 6800XT Phantom Gaming. Great card. It's undervolted as well and sips 130-150 watts during gaming and i haven't really seen it go past 65c on the core.
>>109215938MSI MAG z890 TomahawkTeam Group T-Force Vulcan DDR5-6000 CL 30Phanteks AMP 1000W PlatinumSome really cheapo 40 euro case
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6JXTMFthe only things on the list im actually buying is the case motherboard CPU cooler and power supply i have everything else already its being converted from a full tower to SFF in an attempt to unclutter my desk as well as removing two out of my three monitors
>>109215909>24GB DDR3-2833 (3x8GB)Quirky.No clue about your actual question OP, I don't monitor second hand market for really old parts.
I beat a man to death on my desk and his blood and brain matter flowed all over my PC and went in, am I fucked bros
>>109216088Yes, you're gonna need to wash your PC
>>109216088PowerColor Red Devil Ad
>>109215945>>109215851Intel + Monolith AMD = Latency So Low You Think Everything Is Real Time
>>109216088was he a SAAS developer? if so based.
>Phawx built steam deck using hardware that cost $250 and performed the same or betterthen why are valve charging $1000
>>109216192link?
>>109216212https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AFMZ6qQPxg
>>109211069Pulsar. You can't tell the difference between like 300 and 500 anyways
>>109216219>The PS5 is not RDNA2 its actually just bruteforced RDNA1
>>109211069OLEDif you esports slop fastest oled is only choice
>>109216192because retards will pay a 4x premium for e-waste with a valve logo stamped on it, over e-waste that they have to tinker with themselves.
>>109216192I mean, it's just a fucking RDNA2 + zen 2 or 3 APU, who expected the BOM to be above $400?
Context: RTX 5090 power consumption is 575~600W (depending model)But check this RTX 5090 SUPRIM GPU-Z screenshot.It draw 600W, but the [GPU Chip Power Draw] is just 230W.So then, who draw the rest 370W?
>>109216219interesting.
>buy reservoir for 2nd loop>find something cooler/cheaperI hate watercooling sometimes
>>109216458It's sent off to an AI datacenter, obviously. Haven't you been keeping up?
>>109216219I thought the Steam Machine was 200W, but his benchmarks all show 110W?
>>109216259its not though, its more like Navi 1.5, its why people rank it as the same as the RX6700 instead of RX6700XT despite the PS5 having the same amount of CUsNavi 12 (Pro only)Generation: NaviGraphics/Compute: 10.1.2Shader ISA: GFX10.1 (gfx1011)Display Core Next: 2.1.0Video Core Next: 2.0.2PS5Generation: NaviCodename: Navi12 LiteRay Tracing Cores: 1st GenGraphics/Compute: 10.1.3Shader ISA: GFX10.3 (gfx1013)Display Core Next: 2.xVideo Core Next: 2.4Navi 22Generation: Navi IICodename: Navy FlounderRay Tracing Cores: 1st GenInfinity Cache: 1st GenGraphics/Compute: 10.3.2Shader ISA: GFX10.3 (gfx1031)Display Core Next: 3.0.0Video Core Next: 3.0.0
>>109215562>jumping on the media cycle bandwagon for an easy win>is still scared to do the change in-office cuz "mud editors" despite all the posturingThanks for proving my point. If he truly gave a shit, he would've done the switch years ago, not when it just so happens that Windows hate is trending on social media. And to think this grifter used to be respected.
>>109216503damn thats wild
>>109215299glp-1.
>>109216379>>109216356Let's be honest, this is just valve being greedy.
the steam machine is great news for us vibecoders.
>>109216631why
>>109215299>>109216602good on steve for losing weight who used to be fat almost like tony soprano
>>109216634It's not realistic to vibe code a AAA title. Thankfully, there are thousands of game buyers looking for new (and old) games for an older (class) machine, aka the steam machine.
>>109216639>switches to Linux>stops being fatIt's that easy
>>109216074Well the GPU is the only relatively recent thing. You think I can sell the rest of the system for like $250 or something? Maybe with a 1060 replacing the 2070?
A unique desktop graphics card named RTX 4080M built with a laptop GPU core was tested in China. This modified hardware costs around 400$ and comes without any official manufacturer warranty or driver support.The custom card was compared to a full scale RX 9070 GRE model. The modified board performed great in PUBG but failed in heavy AAA titles at 4K resolution. However its power draw was limited to just 100W.Buying this GPU is impractical for most users due to faster official alternatives. Still the extremely low power consumption and heat output make it a solid choice for ultra compact gaming PC builds.
https://x.com/i/status/2074124008795369482Can't they just hire a bunch of h1b's?
>>109216639I'm trying to lose, too, but without injecting $1000 of drugs into myself. apparently that cost is more like $500, and can be less. But still.:^) I'm mowing with a push mower.
>>109216689Well that's exactly what they always did. They stole all the jobs, this is just their race stealing jobs, we know how it all goes. And the korean race stole ram from the world through anticompetitive practices.
>>109216689that's exactly what they are doing.
This any good?https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-X870-MAX-WIFI7-Motherboard/dp/B0F8KWHK5B?th=1
OFFICIAL: SAMSUNG OVERTAKES NVIDIA TO BECOME THE MOST PROFITABLE COMPANY IN THE WORLD
>>109216689That's phase 2By 2035, Microsoft will be 70% indian
Question for the burgers, have you ever bought any type of PC component on one of those credit programs you guys have? I think it's something like 2 years 0% APR
>AMD memory traininga horror story in three words
>>109216832AMD memory training is honestly scary. All the fans go full blast for what seems like an eternity and it either boots or bricks itself.
5 years ago I wrote this when concluding my RTX 3060 review, I can't imagine what I'd say for a 2026 re-review at the same $330 US MSRP :D We're so cooked!
>>109216774I have never purchased anything I can't afford because I am financially responsible.
>CPUGaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D>7/9600xis that supposed to be 5/9600x?
>>109216935why AM4?
>>109216935No, it's not. AM4 is not a recommended build, it's only if you're destitute and NEED a computer right now.
>>109216948>>109216950I just thought it was a typo. the ryzen 5 9600x im looking at on pc part picker says its AM5
What's so bad about the non-XT 9070
>>109216956it's 7600X/9600X, not 7 9600X
>>109216968oh ok thanks for clearing that up
>looks up current 5090 pricesoh dang looks like this was a pretty good buy!
>>109217010I hope you have a wireview pro ii or that shits gonna melt sooner or later
No news about AMD new CPUs or motherboards yet?
>>1092170852027
>>109217091Ehh i guess i can wait to upgrade from AM4 a bit more.
If we all unify our minds we can direct the universe to deliver Intel Arc Druid this Fall. 56 gb, $250. To celebrate America.
>>109217093I think we are better off telling the Universe that Mom said its our turn on the reality simulation computer.
>>109210202plz respond....
>>109217107Anon....
>>109216761company selling shovel handles overtakes company selling shovels.
>>109217142There's no way to knock sense into boomers, is there? Right in front of them is the defiance of the idea that races don't exist and totally aren't collaborative.
>>109216219sm has no intended audience
Is amd REALLY that bad?Currently I have a rtx 2060 super and a ryzen 5 3600, I want to upgrade to a rx 9070 16g and a ryzen 7 5700xI mostly use my pc for games and sometimes for Cura for my 3d printerI don't care about nvidia ai bullshit, I don't want fake frame, raytracing ect
>>109217536nvidia app has an option to use super resolution which cleans up video quality on windows video players and youtubeyou dont want to miss out
>>109217536no, just shills being shills
>>109217542Uhh why are you being antisemitic? Just get youtube premium.
Man my 6650 actually does everything I want out of it in Stellar Blade except that if you put the textures up high enough they don't look like they never popped in then every cutscene transition or scripted event load in it frame time spikes from overloading the bus swapping stuff to stay under 8GB. Hell even Very High textures works with no visible unloaded textures except for stuttering at every traversal loading trigger. What an annoying point in time this shit is.
>>109217591its unreasonable to ask game devs to work within the limitations of 8gb vram in 2026
>>109217602Like this is better than the approach where they can't be fucked to deload anything from VRAM and start loading everything new in 32X graphics I guess.
>>109217542>cleans up video quality on windows video players and youtubeUh ok but I don't really care about thatThe few youtubes video I watch are mostly music and such so no need, and for video files, I watch mostly tokusatsu, so it's 1080p (if not 480 for the older)
>>109217694Oh and there is a skyrim mod pack I really want to try but it recommend a rtx 3070 or a RX 6600 XT, so that why I want to upgrade
>>109217107gpu needs to be supported, it looks bentgpu cable not plugged in all the way
>>109217107whats this red thing?Wheres the filter on the bottom?
>>109217542I tried using it once and it doesn't work if you use multiple displays. it's like launching an old game that defaults to full screen 800x600 that totally fucks up your desktop and your extra monitors stop working.
>>109217833what are you talking about
Nvidia Pulsar monitor or do I spend $1000 AUD more for the PG27AQWP-W... smart me buys the pulsar monitor because hitting 540fps in The Finals even with a 5080 is not realistic without dlss but... dumb me wants to try OLED (coming from 200hz 1440 IPS)
So the ram issues with AM5 are made up. Are the AMD video games issues also all made up? Did I buy a 5080 unnecessarily?
>>109217852for 5080 Id get a 360hz 4k 32" qd oled when those come out. It might then have higher hz multimode option at lower res. 322URDX36 is one
>>109215570>raise the fan clipsadly that doesn't seem possible because the Arctic Freezer doesn't use fan clips.. i can't find those two fans you mentioned in my country.. i guess im stuck with getting the shortest ram i can find to avoid the clearance issue
the amazon deals are all so shit, I guess this a preview of just how bad black friday is going to be
>>109217852Looking up that oled monitor model, all I see is disgruntled owners playing the panel lottery by buying/returning it several times until they get a panel without horrible dirty greys issue >>109205101
>>109217863360hz 4k oled does sound pretty crazy but if they were announced only a little while ago they'll take even longer ro get to Australia... was hoping to pick something up semi-soon>>109217904Ty for pointing this out i wasnt aware of this issue, ill probably spend less on the pulsar monitor and go oled in future unless theres something else?
>>109217944you could get a pulsar nowthen get the 360hz oled later and they provide different experiencesyou can keep static elements up 24/7 on lcdyou can watch anime on the oled and so on
>>109217944Dirty greys affects woled onlyQdoled monitors are much more consistent but don't get as bright as tandem woled
>>109218005The qd oleds get much brighter an individual color basiswoled has the retard pure white boost which increases brightness at the cost of washing out the image
>>109217846novidio can't into multiple monitors.
>>109218043can you post a recent 2026 article talking about the issue
>>109210062US budget of 800-1K max I want a PC that can run all the most demanding games on steam NATIVELY at high fps with all the options of high end features like dlss/raytracing/etc. I just want to play the most demanding vidya I have on my steam account. I am a complete NOOB when it comes to PC building and this would be my first and I want one thats upgradable but still lasts long enough. I know I'm probably asking for a lot and sound insane but I need help in a multitude of ways. Specifically PC building
>>109218272You cant build a new good pc for mere 1k $32gb ram alone costs 400, 2tb nvme ssd is 250For budget pc's you need to first decide the gpu. A 5070 is best value rn, and theres no cheap >10gb vram nvidia card. 9060 xt 16gb is relatively cheap, but its amd. You dont want low vram cards for longevity.Am5 b850 mobo is standard. Cpu wise theres another big question are you buying a shit tier stuff you plan to replace later, or get a good one now that will last until the platform is upgraded. 7800x3d is value king if you want something to last a long time, 7600/9600 are budget options if you plan to upgade to another am5 cpu later.A generic air cooler will do for the cpu.You want a high airflow case, meshify 3 is good.For ram budget builders go 1 stick of 16gb today, and upgrade to a 2nd stick at same specs later. This allows you to spend only 200$ on ram.Then nvme ssd you need to stick to a 1tb model.Psu you want an atx 3.1 750w, this will come with 1x 12v power cable for gpu and will leave some room to upgrade to higher watt parts later.
Intel Nova Lake CPUs To Bring Back AVX-512 Support Six Years After The Chipmaker Abandoned It On Client Platforms
>>109216639To me it seems like he gained weight ever since he decided to start looking into the business side of companies he's been involved with for years, which was too much for his tiny brain to handle so he lost his mind, stopped MTB-ing and started stress eating, the stress of course being self-inflicted.
>>109218272You have to go to the casino and at least double that money to get what you want.
>>109217857It's not made it up it just depends on your bios
>>109217782It's the mobo flexing not the gpu, the riser the $35 case came with was too high to get it to seat to the io cover. That's a hard drive. Also the gpu always looks bent because it has a stepped down frame on the top so it looks a lot more flexed than it actually is.
Damn i love this 250k, why was everyone hating on the arrow lakes? at 200-220 bucks this thing is a fucking steal. It kills everything i throw at it.
>>109217852I have both using the OLED right now as main monitor however I'm the guy with the stuck pixel cleaning. If you run the Pulsar as main monitor or you have only one monitor anyway it's alright. I turned both down to <200 nits and in side by side comparison other than the better blacks and slightly better contrast both are legit in terms of colours but neither can beat a QD-OLED I guess. You'll see BLB and IPS glow on the Pulsar monitor obviously in a dark room. The big advantage of the PG27AQWP-W is that it has free-sync so you arent tied to nvidia, it has DP 2.1 and if you manage to get stable high fps you wont need VRR anyway. With VRR enabled you may see slight flicker but for me this only ever happened in loading screens.
>>109219154heterogenous cores are a bad idea in general, and the lack of smt is a big annoyance. It's also just the whole "there's a much better option for a comparable price" thing that a lot of people overvalue.
>>109219238i will admit undervolting this with cores that scale differently with voltages has been a pain in the ass
>>109219154270k plus is a steal right now at microcenter/bestbuy. you get 24 cores for $289. amd is charging $450 for 8 cores yuck
>>109219238>>109219270i ended up ordering the thermal grizzly frame for this, hopefully i can keep this for the next 10 years. Strong iGPU as well
I think Intel is onto something with their Big-Little approach. Offloading a myriad of smaller tasks on weaker, but more power efficient cores while keeping the main powerful cores free for harder workloads could be the way forward for x86, especially on mobile platforms.
>>1092192708 gimped cores and 16 cucked cores*calling it 24 cores is a quarter-truth
>Minisforum Intros NAB9S Mini-PC Powered by Core i9-13900HK and DDR4 SODIMM Slotswhat is the use case for those powerful laptop cpus? I don't understand why would someone buy this instead of an actual computer. what do people use these for?
>>109219293the real innovation is their thread director. the hardware tells the cpu what to do rather than the os/drivers.
>>109219313I make good use of my HX cpu in the nearest motel whenever my wife's boyfriend needs time alone with my wife
>>109219306its 24 real cores no hyperthreading.amd is 8 real cores and with hyperthreading they get 8 additional fake cores to the system
250k and 6800xt cruising
>>109219327intel's cores are as real as the legitimacy of the state of israel, which is based on a delusion
>>109219337works on my machine
>>109219337>haha IntelAvivAMD is not your friend.
>>109219238lolwutE-cores are just SMT threads but betteran E-core can't steal performance from a P-core>>109219269it's even worse on raptor lake because you can't adjust the P-core and E-core curves separatelygive intel like 3 more generations, i'm sure they will figure out a good interface eventually
>>109219329this would have been a killer cpu if it had ddr4 support, it would force am4 into retirement
>tfw marketing forced you to put a 3rd fan into your gpu
>>109219376I just ended up doing a unified negative offset across all cores, had to underclock the p-cores for 1.025v but the e-cores are doing stock with this offset just fine. I might try to up the e-cores a little
>>109219379yea that'd be a crazy budget set up
>>109219376give intel 3 generations and they will abandon their p-core and go back to full homogeneous cores because nobody wants cuck cores
>>109219380I really want one, it's a very pretty card.
>>109219399it's certainly unique but pretty isn't a word I'd use to describe it
>>109219414It's got hatsune miku vibes, it's pretty.
>>109219379LGA1700 already exists and it hasn't forced AM4 into retirementthe AMD cult is too strong>>109219383P-cores and E-cores should be on separate voltage rails in ARLso they shouldn't actually be seeing the same voltage with an offset
>>109219440i doubt the voltages on the P and E core are the same but as far as i understand the offset is applied to both of these voltages
best mini itx living room small cases, go.
>>109219440intel should stop being fags and release the 12P core cpu on lga1700 already
>>109219461>but as far as i understand the offset is applied to both of these voltagesyeah it should bebut you shouldn't be seeing exactly 1.025v on bothmight have misunderstood your post
>>109219463usecase?
>>109219468i agree but that wouldn't do anything to help their salespeople in this thread still unironically think zen 3 is on par with raptor lake in gamesif it doesn't say "X3D" it doesn't sell
>>109219472living room pc, lol, so far the fractal ridge is the best
>>109219478yeah but what are you going to DO with it in the living room?
>>109219469I think it just looks at P cores by default for "CPU voltage", when i split the cores for different offsets the e-cores were like mid 850mv if that is to be trusted. Anyway, i could apply a -.100mv offset on the e-cores and it still runs cinebench just fine, seems to have shaved off a few degrees too.picrel
>>109219510not gonna build it, just thinking about it, I could in a few years get a 7800x3d + b650 itx + my 9070xt in there and it would be a pretty amazing steam machine
>>109219523>when i split the cores for different offsets the e-cores were like mid 850mv if that is to be trustedmakes sense>it still runs cinebench just fineR15 is harder to pass than R23 on intel lmao
>>109219540yea it's starting to give me errors now at -125mv at stock e core clocks, that's fucking crazy. -105 or 110 probably stable then
>>109219534in that case, depends on vibes. Silverstone makes both the unobtrusive ominous box sugo series (especially the 15), and the entertainment center camouflage milo series.The fractal terra is generally a solid choice for something to be looked at, and the jonsbo t9 is a pretty good looking terra clone.If you want to get silly and you have a certain kind of living room, you can also maybe get away with the cooler master ncore 100
>>109219540>>109219565took 200mhz off the e-cores with the -110mv undervolt and this thing is a breeze to cool now4.8 p cores and 4.4 e cores, 33 ngu 32 d2d stock ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tTy6CfcxBwthe notebook guy recommended our card
>>109219617and i lost fuck all in cinebench r23, like 500 points from 32k to 31500
>>109219625you just know there's an 80% chance he's using a 4090 or 5090 in his editing rig
>>109219704called it, kek
>>109219719these nvidia cards are ridiculous
>>109219762>>109219762>>109219762
>>109219725>dude 12vhpwr is so cool it reduces all these pesky pcie cables to a single one!>btw here's your mandatory medusa adapter unless you go out and buy a new psu
>>109219974makes perfect sense since the 12vhpwr makes their gpus look nicer in renderings where power cables never appear
>>109219725surely they won't get any bigger
