Ze plan is almost complete. Chat control first, then KIDS Act.
>>109215332goyim are called that for a reason.
>>109215332Sounds like a you problem. Conduct your live chats on Briar and move everything else to Hyphanet.
>>109215332Which one is opposing?
>>109215362shittaly
>>109215332Honestly at this point I'm in favour of this. When they inevitably lose power this will make it laughably easy for their opposition to find every single last person that voted for and supported this.Its hilarious how they see they're losing power and all they do is hand their own worst enemies the tools necessary for their complete eradication.>inb4 the people that spend 20 years warning about muh Hitlerian far right now try to convince you that this totally won't be abused
>>109215390>oppositionlol
>>109215398>retard thinks I'm talking about LeCuck or other controlled oppositionlol indeed something tells me you're going to be part of that list
>>109215390Most people just vote based on what billboards and TV commercials they see. That's how Thomas Massie lost to some nobody who got over $10M from Jewish lobbies.
>>109215429I think it's morally just to simply kill old people.
>>109215332Why do Europeans tolerate the draconian maniacs in the EU?
>>109215429Yeah and peoples votes do not matter. I'm not talking about the idiotic masses, I'm talking about the architects of the panopticon that don't see that the surveillance they are desperately building won't be used by them, it won't even be used by muh populist parties, it will be used against them by those that always inevitably follow the failure of the populists.
>>109215502The midwit "architects" are fully aware the infrastructure will be used by retarded brown hordes, states engaged in petty tyranny, and bumbling corporations.They don't fear the retard right at all though. If there actually were any such thing as modern right wing Statism, they wouldn't have any use at all for a billion dollar surveillance regime - they could just arrest all women and minorities randomly and have a 100% success rate in removing enemies of the thousand year reich.
>>109215615>The midwit "architects" are fully aware the infrastructure will be used by retarded brown hordes, states engaged in petty tyranny, and bumbling corporations.What gave you that impression exactly? Them building the surveillance state or their panicked reaction when for the first time one of their own weapons was used against them and they still don't have an answer to it? I.e. see the the Hague judges that got completely depersoned by Trump over night or the recent case of sanctions against NGOs that they're still reeling from.I don't see any indication or hint that they are conscious much less aware of what they're doing or its consequences it will have on them personally not some vague successor decades down the line.
>>109215332and The App Accountability Act some news from today…>Supreme Court won't block Texas from enforcing a law requiring age verification for app downloads
>>109215838App Store* Accountability Act
>>109215502>that don't see that the surveillance they are desperately building won't be used by themMust be all an acting anon at this point I'm starting to think so think of it as a movie with actors following a script
>>109215980People like to think it's all controlled by one singular person if you just follow the chain up high but I don't think so. When you look at the hard evidence it all points to a system that is devouring itself exactly because no one is at the helm to stop shit so stupidly obvious a literal nobody can see how it will play out. The elites have poisoned the masses with algorithms and echo chambers but historically that was a deadly luxury only for the highest echelons, no one else could surround themselves with yes men and get rid of any opposition or deviants that don't fully 100% align with them.I think they've spent so much time huffing their own farts that they truly believe their own bullshit by this point. If there is a single person steering everything that is the single most retarded motherfucker that the world has ever seen because he's been doing nothing but flawlessly plotting his own destruction and the destruction of the entire system he built.
>>109215332Nobody cares about EU mandates. Local governments literally call them pigs on live TV
>>109216087I will nwver forget how they forced one of the EU commisars in a freezer for w few hours just to humiliate von der Leyen
>>109215332>EUGood thing I don't live in one of those 3rd world Muslim shithole countries
>>109215332I thought this was shot down last year, just how fast did they re-table it?
LOL my chat service only stores 2 units of information1. oauth ID2. your chosen usernameNO PHONE NUMBERNO EMAILNO IP LOGSCatches: >You have to login with either discord or google (I outsource the future id verification shit to them, if it happens)>If you break the law I will not hesitate to report your oauth id to the feds (who will in turn go to the service provider to get logs, not me)Basically I might become the cloudflare of chatting
>>109216234The vote is tomorrow iirc and it was leaked two days ago. Yes it was leaked. No the timing two days before the political summer break and during the football shit aren't coincidence.
>>109216262ofc. they do the same shit in the US
>To verify your age you can provide your Social Security Number.Come to think of it maybe they don't want anyone to use Social media at all hell maybe they just want everyone to stop using the internet all together
>you will not have sex>you will not have meaningful work or real world relationships >you will not have a place to live>you will not have access to treats and hobbies>you will not have even the illusion of privacy while you chat with your fellow loserswhat did the global ruling class mean by this
>>109215341It's a blasphemy. There are Christians and antichrists
>>109215374Makes sense, Italy still has the common sense PM dont they? A she is considered a "right wing nazi" in EU, but basically an Obama democrat in US. Current US left is going the same route as Marxists in EU/China/Soviet Russia
>>109216483No I think it's the other way around I think they seriously believe social media and porn are the cause of low birth rates? I hate how the government is in everyone's business if people simply do not want to have sex nor get married that is none of these people's business. They are so obsessed with Gen z's sex lives it's almost creepy.
>>109216498>A she is considered a "right wing nazi" in EUWhy is that?
>>109216483total gentile humiliation ritual
>>109216562She want sensible policies for her country, does not want to give away power of the country over to EU entirely and values moderate positions regarding immigration, war, etc. A moderate democrat position from ~10 years ago in US.
>>109216527i would not be shocked if this were written by some bushy-tailed nepo baby halfway through the catholic school to federal circuit court pipeline
>>109215838>>109215848I hate this fucking state and this SCOTUS.
>>109216527You're on /g/ not /pol/. Quoting the heritage foundation is laughable here. They are a literal shill organization and use old money to lobby. You're a moron
>>109215390>>oppositionlike who? the fent zombies?
>>109215390This is actually literally what nazis did, they used the weimar laws, hitler never even abolished weimar constitution.
>anon, we must fight them or they may catch the pedophiles
>>109217538>They do all this ID verification, tracking, surveillance shit because of the pedophiles>No, I won't elaborate why not a single one of the known discord pedos, Roblox pedos or Epstein pedos has been arrested yet, even though their identities are well knownRope yourself
>can't go the jail multiple times for the same shit>but we can put new legislation on the table 20 odd times in the vain hope they'll accidentally vote it into law sometime
>>109216527>They are so obsessed with Gen z's sex lives it's almost creepy.seriously though, why the hell are politicians and policy makers actually so interested in the sex lives of the underage?>>109217538cattle.
>>109218196Gen Z is approaching 30, Millennials are in their mid 50's.
>>109216527people in power (70 old in Bilderberg and similar) want to shit up the internet before die shortly after, and you will be stuck with new shitty internet, following rules some now dead boomers set up for you and following them like monkeys without even knowing why
>>109216262Go read about the "great fire of london" and the shit they pushed into law back then
>>109216990heritage foundation were trotsyites.it's depraved but the modern american powers are just trotsyites and stalinists
>>109215332Ze plan will have all humans, including them, be exterminated by SuperAI
>>109218275Rich of you to assume there will be civilization left to maintain the physical infrastructure necessary for the internet by the time boomers die. They will die, but the way things are going it sure as fuck won't be of old age.
>>109217538>No pedos have been prosecuted from the Epstein files, the biggest confirmed organized pedo ring catering to elites>But its about catching pedos!Kill yourself
>>109216590She's still a manhating turbo feminist, despite supposedly being muh alt-right mussolini child party.She wanted less immigration, but only less men, not less people coming in total, she forbid explicitly gay men couples from having children while financed lesbian ones to have IVF for free.
>>109215332So, let's say this passes. How do they stop me and my friend from using GPG to individually encrypt the messages we send to each other over the service that also encrypts them (and chat control decrypts that layer)?
>>109219590idk that sounds kinda based, like no Rajesh, you can't come shit on our streets but if your sister wants to come there's unlimited big Italian cock waiting for her
>>109216527Shut up and fuck some foid raw
>>109219724No ungadunga, neither rajeesh nor pajeeta should come to our countries.
>>109219590>man hatingYou mean she's not fully into the tranny ideology?
>>109217538>dude the pedophile cabal is doing this to protect the children we- I mean they are really concerned about children it's all they think about even!
>>109219823>She's a manhating feminazi>B-but she's not into looney troons!!!Bravo, the overton window has successfully shifted
>>109219845what do you mean by manhating? trannies are men arent they? is that what you're referring to? is that why you hate her?
>>109216485Christians are the best goyim of them all. Literal christian party is pushing this shit.
>>109219671By locking you up with rapists.
>>109215332if privacy isn't allowed hacking isn't illegal, fafo>>109215341kill yourself
>>109218235millennials are in their 30's and 40's, retard. mid 50's is genx
>>109220027Gay nigger prison rape is an american thing, doesn't really happen in europe.
>>109220364That's a good reason to extradite you. You'll be all like "I'M A SUPERIOR YURO PEEING FUCK YOU MUTTS" then your government just hands you over lmao. Cause that's what they do.
>>109220382We don't have prison rape in Germany, and we aren't going to extradite our volk to be raped by your niggers.
>>109216227>Good thing I don't live in one of those 3rd world Muslim shithole co-AAAAAAAACK
>>109220410>being stuck in Germany until the day you die because stepping foot outside of it would lead to the breach of your pooper
>>109215332propaganda promotion on all platforms too
>>109220364>>109220410>we don't have prison rape in GERMANY
>>109215332In the 1980s all phone communications were already filtered to automatically detect words like "bomb", despite computers back then looking prehistoric today. So of course all internet communications have always been scanned. This changes absolutely nothing.
>>109215332masons gotta be faggots
>>109216498>Current US left is going the same route as Marxists in EU/China/Soviet Russia
>>109216234That was Chat Control 2.0.This is Chat Control 1.0.Chat Control 2.0 is basically the actual legislative package.Chat Control 1.0 was an emergency package which legally can only be active for a limited time period after which it has to be voted back into power with an extension, or if that fails - it falls away. Chat Control 1.0 actually didn't pass the extension vote.Mersola, the President of the EU Parliament put in motion an emergency fast-track procedure to re-vote on the Chat Control 1.0 proposal to re-extend it until Chat Control 2.0 lands. Basically her entire power-block of the European People's Party (EPP) voted in favor, and the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (S&D) block voted half in favor of allowing the procedure.This gave them a narrow victory to enable the fast-track process, which will take the amended proposal the EP voted to reject the last time and will retable it for another vote to get it accepted. With a time window of two days (literally- it's happening the day after tomorrow, thursday the 9th) for all parties to refamiliarize themselves and close ranks against it once again - and with one day to go until the summer recess for the EU's government bodies.This is somewhat of a classic US-Republican trick, trying to capitalize on the Senate and House simply Not Giving A Fuck (TM) in the last week before holiday, and just phoning it in.It shouldn't surprise then that the EPP consists of the Christian, liberal-conservative, and conservative political parties of the EU members. Aka, the EU Republicans.(What might surprise you is that the S&D is basically the Commies.)
>>109216234Just like anon said >>109222273
>>109216234>>109222273 (cont.)So yeah- the EU is quite well and truly fucked here, because the Commies and Republicans are joining hands.And basically the only ones left to oppose them are the smaller groups that jointly make up the non-commie liberals, most predominantly: the greens. Aka the environmental hippies.
>>109222311*and* the nationalists - come to think of it.Yes. You are truly living in the strangest timeline where the best ally for the freedom-loving "everyone is born equal" greens, is the NatSoc parties."The enemy of my enemy" etc. etc.Can't wait to see if they're capable of swallowing their pride, or will fuck us.
>>109222228Surprisingly though, it's actually the parallel to the US Republicans that are the driving party in favor here.And it's actually the Commies backing them up!
>>109219777Checked.
>>109220464Like everything the UK does this will backfire, being promoted will be the kiss of death to a shill, equivalent of turning comments off when you're getting ratioed.It's like how you know you're getting the good shit when they put up a conspiracy theory debunker under the video.
>>109216527They're right though. Do you think onlyfans increases the amount of stable marriages?Everyone I know who is managing to cobble together a happy life in current year, does it by going the fuck outside.Obviously the political implications of censorship are bad. I don't think the sexual implications are.>you sound like a religious nutjobYou mean one of the only groups reproducing above replacement?
>>109215332StopKillingGames told me that the EU parliament is amazing and great, therefor i support Chat Control!
>>109216527>they seriously believe social media and porn are the cause of low birth ratesIf they believe this, they are correct. Promoting gay shit and trannies also lowers the brith rates.But i have no idea how this is related to this subject here?
>>109222335>>109222311in every single country in which a Green party became a member of a coalition, they submissively accepted all dystopian measures and pushed them even harder.They are feel-good people, they say what makes them feel good, but pull off no resistance whatsoever and do what they are told to do.
>>109222508>Everyone I know who is managing to cobble together a happy life in current year, does it by going the fuck outside.Most of Adults Gen z live with their conservative parents a lot of those parents are helicopter parents who don't let them do shit. The economy is also absolutely trash Gen z cannot afford a house therefore they cannot have privacy.
>>109222575>I'm a redditor and my parents took away my weedYou're not a part of the birthrates discussion buddy.
>>109222508>IT'S BOOKS!>IT'S RADIO!>IT'S THAT GOSH DARN SATANIC MUSIC!>NO IT'S VIDEO GAMES!>NO YOU IDIOTS IT'S LE WOKE!>NO YOU FAGOTS ITS THE PORN!Anything. ANYTHING. But facing the fact that intelligent human beings don't have children when the future is fucked and the economy is even worse.>b-b-b-b-b-but A-A-Africa has k-kids!Go on and have 20 children 18 of which die by age three while you shit in the puddle in the back of your """house""" that you call a toilet. The rest of us will just continue to have a higher than double digit IQ.
>>109222590I don't smoke weed. I'm just speaking of the reality of what's happening. The economy is so bad Gen z Adults still live with their parents and they cannot afford shit but surely the issue is porn and social media that must be it.
>>109215332I don't understand why they're trying so hard to be evil, why not just be cool politicians who work for their people?seems like to be the most efficient way to be re-elected until death, they obviously don't give a fuck about muh kids or terrorists, why take the hard way? absolute control is not needed if everyone likes you, dumbfucks...
>>109222612>don't have children when the future is fucked and the economy is even worseShouldn't have sanctioned Russia then, lol.Imagine getting energy gifted almost for free, building up all your economy on it, but then decide to reject future gifts because of some subhuman hohols you didn't know even existed until a while ago.Or alternatively, if you aren't an Europoor but a mulatto:Shouldn't have gone to war for Israel and Khazaria then, lol.Imagine having all oil world wide traded in your currency. Get gifted the ability to export your inflation. And then you decide to go to war for Israel and lose and get a strait cut off that transports 20% of the world wide oil and the majority of USD traded oil.Should have been man enough to actually go boots on the ground, because the consequences of the current situation have the potential to utterly destroy the US economy.Westoids and their jewish masters are so incompetent on all sides. And it is all their own fault, done on their own will.If they would have simply done nothing, they would have a cozy life. But they had to be idiots.
>>109222674>NO WAIT ACTUALLY FORGET PORN IT'S RUSSIA NOW!Just kill yourself. Not going to waste my time reading the rest of your post.
>>109222672>why not just be cool politicians who work for their people?Does that even exists anywhere in the world?
>>109222674>Shouldn't have sanctioned Russia then, lol.Yeah those sanctions Korea hit Russia with in the 1970s were just the beginning of the end for their birth-rate. No coming back from that.
>>109222681Nobody forced the jews in charge of Europoor to cut their energy supply off.Nobody forced the jews in charge of the US of A to go to war randomly and cut USD traded oil off.All your rulers are incompetent low-iq idiots.Jews are legitimately dumb and stupid. Otherwise they wouldn't get kicked out again and again. The only people who are dumb enough to host those braindead retarded idiots are Westoids.
>>109222692South Korea, the country under US military occupation that only exists as a US vassal to annoy China and to prevent Korea from being united?
>>109215332Most of my life has being on the internet, if this pass, what's left of the old internet will dies.I wish I could stay I'm just depressed but it's bigger than this. I have no ideas what to do with my life after this. everything I loved, even my job, almost all revolved using the internet, an internet that's going to be executed in front of our eyes... This won't just be this, it will continues until everything from the old internet is gone.Maybe I'm a little dramatic but Is Ignoring things the only thing that can be done anymore? Living in blissful ignorance? Is it even possible? I don't think I could do that.
>>109215362A few right and left parties are against it, but Most politicians, left or right, support this, as this is pushed by private companies and lobbyist groups.These politicians are probably paid a big amount to push this. Or are ignorant and don't realize the consequence of what's going to happen due to ignorance of technology or "well meaning stupidity".
>>109222702>it's porn>it's sanctioning Russia>no wait it's orchestrated by the jews>no wait I got it it's the US annoying China by... uh... keeping birth rates low... in.. South Korea?Can you settle on a story you schizophrenic spastic or were you born like this due to your moms drug abuse?
>>109215390THEY ARE LITERALLY EXEMPT BY LAW YOU MORON.Chat control is the answer to people who demanded to see Leyen's SMS-Negotiations for the clotshots with Bourla, she literally said she deleted them because of "security".
>>109215332You might also want to add that the EU today introduced the new requirement for all new cars registered in Europe to have installed cameras filming the driver's face or so I read
>>109222738let me quote your own post again:>Anything. ANYTHING. But facing the fact that intelligent human beings don't have children when the future is fucked and the economy is even worse.Why is it that way? Why are you on a constant decline?Is it a force of nature you aren't allowed to question?
>>109222710You basically need the internet nowadays to live, it's impossible to ignore it.You want friends? need internet. you want a job? need internet. You want a partner? Need internet. You want hobbies? Many now require the internet or barely exist in the real world anymore.Internet was an alternative, a different place. it now became the main place. and alternatives are not allowed to exist as much no more.That measure is well named, because that's what they want, "control". Maybe a few people who voted this think it's for the good of people, but I really don't think it's for this. there was a lot of better things that could have being done for the "good of people".
>>109222762This is literally impossible to make. Like, most people don't even buy brand new car anymore. they buy second used car which usually are pretty old too. And that's excluding how it would cost a shitload of money to implement to car manufacturers. Not even most public service vehicles have cameras. so all cars? impossible.
>>109222672I think our rulers know they're losing control, fewer and fewer people support them every day, the right and the left are being radicalized in opposite directions but they all hate the establishment. So I think they're just doing whatever they can to hold onto power.
>>109222762They did. And no one knows what'll happen with the data yet.Also cars already record everything you say, have since eCall. Now they're going to also read your lips, maybe combine that with active screening of what you're listening to on the radio and how your eyes dilate or your veins pop when certain things are said, your facial expressions.They're compiling and saving everything, and they'll either slowly purge everyone who's in their way or soon find a way to bolshevik' them.Next few years are going to be wild.
>>109222788but why even do this clown dance in the first place...
>>109222784nta, but he is right, all new cars sold in the EU need to have a camera monitoring the driver.Official justification is to detect whenever a driver is tired. It's like that attention-assist that most brands already have, but on steroids.>nobody buys new carsyeah, it takes time for it to actually reach you like always.Like the start-stop retardation got decided more than a decade ago and plenty of normies still never got in contact with it.
Some popular movies about authoritarian governments are going to look silly in the future. Maybe these will get banned.Future generations will either live in ignorance or will hate even more old generation for what happened to the world.A grim future await.
>>109222813If these were impressive people they'd be contributing to society instead of leeching off of it.
I'm going to visit Europe next year. I want to go there before it's completely ruined. Then I will focus on advocating for radical libertarianism in America. If we lose America, we'll have no free country to flee to.
Is it even possible to put in every places?Think about it, the internet is enormous, there's no way they will have this everywhere, they can't really do that. they will only have it on major platforms in a rushed way and call it a day.Some shit even clash with their actual laws too, some platforms are told to purge their data every years, months, or week, to comply with the privacy laws they did.People who vote stuff are genuinely tech-inept. People who vote for laws should be people who knows how things work.
>>109222861The US is also pushing this, many first world countries (and a few smaller countries too) are doing that, at the same time too, as this is pushed not by the countries themselves, but private corporations who got the governments by the balls.Everything they say publicly, it's bullshit to make it look nice, for people to vote without understanding what's it's actually because these people don't know shit about how things functions. Some likely will regret it once they realize.
>>109222883The Stasi fell. It seemed impossible but it did, because the people eventually rejected these leftist demons ruling over them. Communism was defeated, and we can stop it from making a comeback now. It is not over. They want you to be blackpilled. Freedom has triumphed over leftism before and it can happen again.
>>109222672Because normies are degenerate.
>>109222896This time is different. Last time you could hide your resentment and hit when they were weak.This time they're building a water-tight cage.The time to act is now.
>>109215332Scanning for what? What am I not allowed to use chat clients for? Can the government just ASSUME I'm a terrorist based on contextless messages back and forth between me and other people?
>>109222896It's not just communism, many far left, far right, left, right, center and more also support this or even are directly pushing this.the opposition can also be found in every sides too. but they are not a majority most of the time.since this vote deserves the "overwhelming majority" to be voted, and that every people not there are a defacto yes, this pretty much mean the opposition will lose unless there's a slim chance they are enough people there (which I'm not optimistic).(how is it even legal to have an absence considered as a "yes")
>>109222826>Official justification is to detect whenever a driver is tired.This is so dystopian dude
Are we barrelling towards a "guilty until proven innocent" state when it comes to your digital entity? Any digital content associated with you is always subject to being disclosed under the assumption that you might have done something illegal digitally and if you haven't then it remains under perpetual scrutiny?
>>109222900There's only so many videos people can watch of African and Middle Eastern savages beating up and killing the native population before people start to realize that the ones who brought these people to their countries are their enemies. The rulers know this, and that's why they're acting so desperate now. That's why they can't have free speech. That's why they want to limit access to information. But you can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle. They've lost their grip and they can't get it back. It's up to us to use our voices to make sure they're defeated. To make sure that freedom reigns.
>>109222920>anon has a tired face by default>can't use new cars anymoreAny automatic system can make stupid mistakes like this.Similarly, actual tired people can also fool this by trying very hard to LOOK awake
Does client side mean device side? Will having no systemd save me from this?
>>109222920its nothing new https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZ6NBZlTWA
>>109222914>support this or even are directly pushing this.Weird how many of the things said on/by WEF are slowly becoming reality
>>109223020No, its a total information control. ChatControl is just 1 piece. Ondevice, on servers, on algorithm, ban on under 16, push favored propaganda narrative, etc.The west is led by the far left gov and they are taking over all the cognitive load of its citizens and trying to shape them to have total control your the entire information control/reality people experience.
>>109223096So what's the solution? Chop off the internet?
>>109223096>push favored propaganda narrative, etcLike the UK that wants Youtube to prioritize their official news channels and trusted sources on the population over anything else or something like that
>>109222508>Everyone I know who is managing to cobble together a happy life in current year, does it by going the fuck outside.people say this but i go outside and nobody has a happy life there either
>>109223125Its almost all the western countries that have been taken over bye leftist government. Australia is pushing their online censorship to ban and fine anyone "ratioing" an unpopular post on X. All the countries ramped up censorship during covid/ukraine war. But it was done behind the scene as part of "voluntary" censorship group. Soon as Musk bought out twitter and left the "voluntary" censorship group. The EU gov and the UK gov threepeated to arrest Musk and punish Musk for leaving the "voluntary" censorship group. UK has arrested tens of thousands each year for social media posts. UK has fined 4chan, 4chan lawyer refuses to pay. EU has fined X, Elon has refused to pay. Australia has fined X. Elon has refused to pay.The leftist communist censorship is widespread. https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/uk-authorities-threaten-extradition-jail-to-us-citizens-for-online-posts-stoking-riots-social-media-elon-musk-x-stabbing-taylor-swift-themed-event-children-dead-prime-minister-police-laws-free-speech
>>109222508The only people leading happy lives are the retards that make their existence everyone elses problem ie pakis pumping six kids and living off of welfare.If the government stops funding them they will easily start stealing to continue living
You will accept Digital Authoritarianism and you will be happy
>>109222508>you can only be happy if you're married and constantly with other people, no you can't ever be by yourself that's the devil>also you're not responsible for your own actions, it's the internet's fault if you waste your days doom scrolling. No you can't fix this with an hobby like sane people do, your phone is holding you at gunpoint and forcing you to be on social media at all timesno wonder people like this are okay with chatcontrol, they don't have a functioning brain
It probably won't be everywhere in reality, but it will be on the big mainstream platforms, which mean if you don't adapt to this, you will be ostracized from "modern society" (because society now requires you to use the internet, it's not like in the past)What's sadder is that almost no one is actually aware of that, there's almost zero media talking about this. It's (among the other laws currently voted or being considered) are society changing laws and NO ONE are really aware of it.
>>109223174I know and I can see that but do not think for a second that the Right is gonna save us all and aren't on board with this too just look at how House Republicans voted to pass the KIDS Act and how they passed the App Store law in Texas which forces ID verification to download apps which was signed by a Republican Governor and look at how many states are passing age verification laws supported by Republicans and how in Utah they restricted VPNs
>>109215332I feel safer already>>109222508lol, unironically touch grass, the majority of normies, which is the majority of people, are outside most of the time and have normal relationships, they aren't giga gooners with 10tbs of porn, yet they still don't procreate nor usually marry.pinning the low fertility and divorce rates on porn is demented, when the current trends of low birthrates started well before the internet or online pornography became a thing.it clearly isn't the culprit, marriages aren't usually failing cause the man is a gooner or has a broken relationship with sex, nor is porn making people use condoms and getting abortions.
>>109223260>What's sadder is that almost no one is actually aware of that, there's almost zero media talking about thisWhat's even sadder is the retards that are aware and think that none of this it's a big deal
>>109223260I assume that pretty much everyone who is against that censorship bullshit, and who is actually ready to stay by his words, is unvaxxed.Unvaxxed people already went through all of this during CoViD. They were never able to speak their mind freely anyway. Everything is already censored for everyone who actually has a worthwhile opinion.I am a pureblood and i don't give a flying fuck about the normie cattle getting mass surveilled and censored. It changes absolutely nothing for me.>>109223174Elon only rolled back twitter from hardcore censorship to average censorship. But its still censorship.You cant have a based opinion on twitter. You will get banned or shadow banned.
>>109223275The retarded Right (well more like bipartisan majority hundreds from each side of the party pushed it) pushing the nonsense Kids Act and KOSA act is dumb shit. This "think of the children" excuse is being used by EU Chat Control now and Canada, Australia and everyone else in the west to censor shit. I hate
>>109223174>The leftist communist censorship is widespread.The EU European People's Party (EPP) that has been the driving force behind the Chat Control measures for the past decade, consists of christian and conservative political parties. They're basically the EU version of the US GOP.
>>109223406>everyone else in the west to censor shitI'd say that even non-western countries are also doing it now
>>109223260Return to hamachi
>>109223406Look at Brazil man ID verification for Social Media, Gaming, Chats/Messaging, Spotify, Youtube, Streaming Services this is so retarded
>>109220546Right, it's pushed just for shits and giggles.
>>109222575That's exactly my case
If this passes what are the /g/ approved alternatives to Telegram and Whatsapp? I mean some chat app with groups and the possibility to send voice messages, images, videos and files. I don't give a shit about Discord-like features.
>>109223174>The leftist communist censorship is widespread.Irony is it's the commies that actually vote against immigration is surveillance. Right wingers are often vocal about it but then quietly vote for pro-immigration and surveillance laws.
>>109222508>>109222526The ONLY thing that causes a society-wide drop in the birthrate is women's rights
>>109225670Not an irony. The marxists operate on identity politics. The original marxist doctrine focused on exploiting the differences between classes. When the liberalism was introduced, enlightened philosophers and society wanted an equal/liberal society everyone would be treated equally. Marxism is a critique of liberal world order. They dont believe equality can be achieved by letting people enjoy freedom. They believe the authoritarian government should enforce "equality" among people. And at first it was the class equality they wanted to enforce, by making the government chief arbiter of social mobility, this is where you got the soviet (china) era mandating of people being treated as cattles where they were given numbers and assigned government appointed jobs. People became cattles where they are controlled by the government, they have no freedom to pursue their own dreams, their own interests, etc. In order to maintain this control, they silenced all dissents and sent them to gulugs, forced re-education internment camps, and forced labor to brainwash them. America didnt buy into that and countered this ideology. Capitalism, a product of liberalism, where free individuals trade their labor values for another and exchange them for prosperity. Everyone became rich. Everyone could afford homes. Everyone could afford electricity. Everyone could afford TV. Everyone could afford cars. Etc. Meanwhile Soviets/China managed to kill 100 million of their population through communist policies. The Marxist in the west didnt give up, they expanded their class division into all aspects social divisions. Aka identity politics. Your race, gender, sexual preference, height, health fitness, your career, your hobbies, anyone with any social difference was being used by the marxist identity politics to insert themselves into as a "solution" to be offered. Mass migration -> mass censorship is part of an effort to suppress the dissent views. Its the same playbook.
>>109225728you're overthinking. at core commies just want wealth to be spread out more evenly. all this liberal cultural and racial topics are irrelevant to traditional left, they only care about money.
>>109225751In fact these days a lot of people are suggesting the identity politics was weaponised by certain people to make the left keep infighting over inane bullshit that can be appeased by a corporate diversity officer and a rainbow flag once a year and stop asking awkward questions about money.
>>109225783part of it was putting traditional economic left and liberal cultural left (like lgbt, blm...) under same name while there's almost no overlap between those.it's almost like liberal left was created as diversion from the issues that are actually important for quality of life.
>>109222674Two more weeks, comrade!
the whole id at OS level shit is such bullshit.But i think this id for social media will end up killing social media and of course porn websites. Only the most normie of normies will still use social media. This also might kill reddit.But what of 4chan and old school forums?The boomers in charge are too stupid to remember places like thisIn the end just use a vpn......until they ban them too
>>109215332So... it's over? There's nothing we can do now?>>109216498Considering there are more Africans now than before she got in, I'd say she isnt far right, or right wing at all.
>>109225844>Considering there are more Africans now than before she got in, I'd say she isnt far right, or right wing at all.Also, watch them completely ignore the Remigration law proposed by the actual far-right movements through an official signature-based campaign backed by 150'000+ people (while getting zero press, of course, apart from smearing)
>>109225881>Open spoiler post on 4chin>it contains a loli image>pic related on its way to your house
Is loli hentai illegal yet?
>>109215332literaly unenforceable.
I am going to "misuse" EU money to fund encryption devs :)
>>109225844>Considering there are more Africans now than before she got in, I'd say she isnt far right, or right wing at all.EU wide policies. She had been trying to reverse it but counter forces from EU is too strong. They dont have national independence anymore. EU has been fining Hungary billions for refusing to implement mass migration policy. Hungary's PM that strong opposed this was removed from office and a new one may placate to EU more now.
>>109223096>The west is led by the far leftActually braindamagedThe west is literally laid by mostly right or center politicians and they ALL support this.
>>109225728>american education>american political thought
>>109226562>UKKier Starmer>EUUrsula>CanadaCarney>AustraliaAlbaneseAll leftist/extreme left pushing society wide ban on VPN, censoring social media, banning social media, promoting state approved narrative, pushed widespread covid censorship on side effects, criticism of ukraine war, pushed wide spread censorship of elections, criticism of gender ideology, criticism of mass migrations, criticism of israel-hamas war, etcThe only non-leftist leader in the west is Trump. Everyone else follows the Marxist identity politics
>>109226621and all of them want you to verify your age via Persona (i.e Palantir) >Trumpdo you really think that his friend Peter Thiel won't force age verification in the US too?
>>109215838Reminder to report Paxton as using that law to aid traffic of minors and commit treason.Ken Paxton is using age verification to aid human traffic and to deliver American data to foreign countriesThere are now databases of devices used by children and she aided them to gather the data.If private companies can keep track of your ID they can keep track of which devices and accounts are not using them, they created a risk map for human traffickers and a human catalog for the government and private companiesAre you fine with Google having the info of the devices of your kids after elsagate?Are you fine with Palantir delivering your political data to IsraelAre you fine with other countries using services from China to verify your identity and keep track of your political beliefs?Age verification is an act of treason over the first amendment, they aid criminals to keep track of your political beliefs and they are abusing themhttps://www.texastribune.org/2026/05/28/texas-apple-google-app-store-age-verification/This all started because SCOTUS ignored the constitution over age verification, now foreign countries are using identity thief to target americans, it already happened in sweden, they even opened bank accounts with bio metric data
>>109222508how did you get this retarded?
What's stopping me from creating my own chat app, having my friends download it and just use that? Encrypt, no logs and storage of any important data.
How is it supposed to work in practice?From what i read it's like this.>Before you successfully send a message, any message, it's compaed against a gov database of child porn.>Then the system checks if it matches and if not, it goes through.>Using AI of course>If it detects that something is up, it blocks the message from ever being sent, freezes the user and by law requires the police to manually review if the message is child porn or notSo first of all, they'll have to scan every single message you ever send on anything.Second if there's any at all false positives and AI isn't flawless, the police will be flooded with them because of the sheer number of messages sent at every hour of every day.And thirdly uh. Won't it hit and immediately out most of the politicians worldwide?
Also discord is currently permabanning people for posting chess grids because of their own child porn detection AImIf you post any grid it detects it as CSAM because i guess pedos used to grid their shit to prevent detection?
>>109226899That's malicious compliance.If Discord would want it, they could ban and nuke all the tranny child grooming discords within an hour. They wouldn't need any age verification or Digital ID for it. They already scan messages, so just check if its a troon trying to convince a child to do dumb things, and nuke them if it is that way.But they don't want to, so they rather do some retarded stuff to harm everyone.
eu is one of the most cucked things ever. why would you let foreigners who don't even live in your country make laws for it?
>>109225842I saw people saying vpns don't work anymore with the new ios update in places where laws have passed and Apple has implemented verification at app store level it restricts 18+ app downloads (and in some places like in Texas it's for all apps) and blocks websites entirely. You cannot bypass that by using a vpn you simply won't be able to access most things on your phone anymore.
>>109216243you should put a rainbow flag in your app icon because this is the gayest thing I've ever read
>>109226562>muh center muh rightyeah of course, in relativity to a communist state
>>109226621>only the extreme left Marxists want censorship and control
>>109215332I get so hopeless with this kind of stuff because I know that even if we do successfully resist these draconian hyperinvasive laws, they'll just try them again next year. And if we resist next year, they'll just try again the year after that. And they'll just keep trying and trying and trying the same law 1000s of times until it passes eventually, in one form or another.
European leaders are replacing their native populations with third world savages and corrupting the rare and purified European bloodlines while hammering down on the last people of these countries with draconian police states where every inch of your privacy and freedom is violated.Evil doesn't even begin to describe it. Nuremberg trials for those responsible wouldn't be necessary after nationalists gain control. The Spanish had the right idea in the 1930s. And in the 700s - 1500s.
>>109229984UniParty
>>109230183Getting riled up is a waste of time. Unless you actually enjoy the political rain dance, that is.
they want another war and they'll get it
>>109215390>Honestly at this point I'm in favour of this. Oh boy, a real life nudge-unit post!
>>109215481And when you get old?
>>109222575>Most of Adults Gen z live with their conservative parents a lot of those parents are helicopter parents who don't let them do shit.Truth bomb
>>109215332you voted for this. now your rulers aren't even anglo, they are zionists.
Time to go back to first principles and pull a Primitive Technology with telegraphs and illegal band radio.
Started doing research to see how many countries have passed id verification laws, have proposed bills and introduced bills and I gave up half way because damn it's almost the whole world the map you see on wikipedia is very updated
Someone should come up with a vpn that can reroute your internet traffic to a location in the middle of the ocean or space maybe
>>109215332europe needs another hitler and soon
>>109226886Politicians are exempt from this law, I shit you not.
Picrel is how they exploit you, /gee/.
There is no stopping it. The time to take action is already long gone. You won't do shit.
>>109223406>KOSA act>ban the addictive act of infinite scrolllingThis will never not be funny.
>>109215501like you'd do anything
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-parliament-greenlights-chat-control-1-0-breyer-our-children-lose-out/Well it passed..So is SimpleX safe to use thanks to this shit?
>>109233014correct
>>109225728>marxistsThe neolibs won and their plans will be more dystopian than anything the commies could devise. While retards like you clap for them.
>>109220071You are such a retarded goy
>>109233559kek it’s actually a nothingburger and that website argues for much more draconian regulations by apparently forcing apps to implement some euro standard (chat control 2.0) As it stands, this is basically nothing
smartphones were a mistakenormalfags were a mistake
>>109233559basedFuck the normie cattle!Get your Pfizer vax!
>>109233652based EU shill already at work!Forcing corpos to scan user messages that they were previously forbidden from scanning? Not a big deal!
>>109222674unprompted vatnik slop hose
>>109226886I wonder how hard it would be to overload the system. Just get a few dozen people spamming thousands upon thousands of messages a second via automation, scale it up bigger I imagine you could cripple any system.
>It's about protecting the kids bro, think of the kids
THE EU WONTHANK YOU URSULA
>>109230900It's just the way the cookie crumbles
>>109215332They don't ban end-to-end and Meta, Google and other big tech companies already scan everything. There is nothing new about this.
>>109222672Most likely is that they're stupid. What probably happened is that a large enough percentage of politicians, who are tech illiterate, got "advised" (read lobbied) by certain groups (my bet is christian fundamentalist groups or tech companies or both) that NOT scanning chat is bad due to child porn so to protect our children we need to scan all the chats, and because they're tech illiterate they're like "yep sounds reasonable enough"
>>109222672>I don't understand why they're trying so hard to be evil, why not just be cool politicians who work for their people?Too many people have been criticizing jews so now jews ordered all western politicians to crack down on the #1 place where jew criticism takes place, online communication.Every other person trying to explain this away without mentioning jews is incorrect.
>>109215332Can't stop company's killing products they've sold to their customers, but this shit gets legalized in a heart beat. Fuckin' cunts.
The powers that be are retarded. Focus all laws on full control of all stuff digital and yet at the same time deny the plebs any means to actually own anything digital.No, people who are jobless( and that is going to be practically the majority with AI and idiots ceo) are not be able to afford a subscription for their government sanctioned internet/thin client/smartphone.
>>109232560You really think Hitler wouldn't do this too
>>109233014Trvke
>>109235082Be Hitler, get widespread fame and recognition by pointing out the jew trickery.Be complete retard and focus not on the rich families but the average dirt poor jew and german retards,thus loosing all support.
>>109215332>EU Parliament advances "Chat Control 1.0," allowing mass scanning of private communications through 2028.Is it over Eurobros?
funny this dashboard is made with ai
>>109233863>Forcing corpos to'Chat control 1.0' is voluntary. It had to be brought back into force as emergency legislation (which means that again, it has a max lifetime of 2 years) because US big tech companies like Google, Meta, and Microsoft had already made statements that regardless of lack of legality they would continue to scan for CSAM material. This would put the EU in the awkward position of being forced to admit they're a paper tiger, or being forced to fine these companies - resulting in Trump enacting more tariffs as a counter-reaction. So what they did now is legalize what US companies were already going to do anyway - to save face, and spare the economy.
>>109215332TAX STRIKETAX STRIKETAX STRIKETAX STRIKETHE MACHINE CAN'T KILL YOU IF IT HAS NO FUEL
>>109230183that's just politics. To paraphrase a wise man, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
>>109220071It’s not like you or any raped goyslave in the EU will ever do fucking anything about it.
>>109216243what makes you think you wouldn't have to comply with chat control as well?
>>109216428hilarious in a country where you can vote without id
>>109215332if chatcontrol should we go back to non https
>>109220546they might have had beeper in 1980s but there were like three messages goto callbackdeliver money
>>109225916i seen this vehicle i like the cunny pic more
>>109226361state location and anons might check it for you
>>109226644anon why ip address and event unix timestamp is not enough
>>109233697no anon buyer beware
>>109215390>Honestly at this point I'm in favour of this. When they inevitably lose power this will make it laughably easy for their opposition to find every single last person that voted for and supported this.You forgot that laws are for cucks, not the ruling class.Your fantasy won't turn into reality.
>>109219824>children it's all they think about even!He isn't lying.
>>109222710>Most of my life has being on the internet, if this pass, what's left of the old internet will dies.>I have no ideas what to do with my life after this.Politicians have names, families and addresses.
>>109234697>Big tech is already spying on you illegally, so it's not a problem if lawmakers create laws for them to do it legallyUnironically rope yourself
>>109238813>be German>live in a system where the state has the right to demand that your employer hands over your taxes to them before giving you the rest of your moneyBoomers never thought something wrong with this concept
Is the US the UK now? I don't know the full story but apparently they arrested someone in some US state over a gif yesterday
>data mining goes brrrrrrrrRRRRRRI was praising EU yesterday for food additive regulations too... Feels bad.
>>109239790>Big tech is already spying on you illegallyIt will still be illegal, you dumbass. It will only stop being illegal if the government asks them to do it. This is already the case in the US, and the EU simply wants to replicate it. But, there is no ban on end-to-end encryption, meaning that people who use it still cannot be easily spied on.
>>109239801well at that point you should just stop working and go on the dole like all the turks over there.
Death to all AI niggers.Death to every single faggot who supported this.
>>109216498>Italy still has the common sense PM Some sort of kikeslave right populist let me guess you, can rest assured these will betray their voters in a day YOU STUPID MUTT you don't know one fucking thing about Europe, SHUT THE FUCK UP >>109225844>more Africans nowRIGHT ON THE FUCKIN MONEY OF COURSEWHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING>>109215481Not a unique ideahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LapotAh we'd be a 0th world country if this tradition spread farther than some town of romanians.
>>109239801>Boomers never thought something wrong with this conceptBecause it goes straight to their bank account (that's how pensions work)
>>109215332Of they emphasized the carve out for encrypted messengers that they settled on, they could win the public over by framing it as a forceful push away from American tech. "Stop being retards or you're inviting American tech AND your governments to read everything you send."
>>109215332Scanning everybodies messages is a threat to human dignity and the ones threatening our german first amendment need to be put under full surveillence by the german constitutional protection agency.The EU nazis are taking over and our constitution won't survive if they don't live up to their promise.
>>109235202not yet, it will be over in September when they announce the mandatory EU-wide age verification plans that they want to implement before the end of the year.the current Chat Control thing is just to extend something that was already in place and has been happening for years, but it expired in march, and it still has to go through the Council i believe.
>>109230183You're a shill. All it takes for us is to resist and be alive. They won't.>>109229244>>109226644>>109239358>>109223275Demoralization. For any non shills here all you have to do is vote for the right people which you have never done (don't lie). That's how they win. I don't give a fuck about shills replying to this post. There's one absolutely fucking mentally ill person calling everybody a goy and has some really weird unjastified hatred for Americans on every board so watch out. He must be really depressed and demoralized. Also Kids act haven't passed yet (and probably won't with your help) so yeah. Resorting to lying is pathetic shills.
>>109222826>>109222920Yeah this type of shit along with other bullshit will just radicalize normal people further. All it takes to repeal all this garbage is one law.
