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first for PHP still getting food on the table
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>he hates the tool that can help him get a better job
you "people" are retarded. just don't use it as social media, you braindead morons.
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>>109225125
I used to be on LinkedIn everyday when I was unemployed and it gave me NOTHING but radioactive cringe, false hopes and soul drainage
Only found a job later when I started looking directly at listings on firms' own websites
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>have week off
>realize i have nothing to do and am bored all day
>brain rejects any sort of personal project, can't get myself to work
>essentially "doomscroll" all day
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So I started a new job and my first task is to shadow a greenfield vibe coded project, learn the best practices and introduce vibe coding into an existing project.
At first I felt overwhelmed by the task, due to it being so abstract and vague. I didn't really know what I had to do, other than say to the new team "You have to use claude code now".
Then, however, I took a step back, and started by talking to the stake holders, getting a clearer picture what they actually want. I think it helped me a lot to calm down and get a better understanding of the situation. I think, my next step is gonna be, talking to key members of both teams (PO, tech lead, engineering manager) to get a better understanding of the project.
It seems like my new position is less about writing code and more about talking to people.
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>>109225390
>my new position is less about writing code and more about talking to people
After Claude, I became glorified help desk, seriously considering becoming a delivery man for Amazon instead of this bullshit
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My crippling shyness prevents me from ever getting a higher role like project leader or manager and I hate it.
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>>109225241
I just did the same thing with my mandatory summer break
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>>109225241
Play some vidya unironically.
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I'm amazed at how good Claude is at analyzing code. We have plenty of old, incomprehensible code written ages ago by people who are no longer with the company. For a long time no one really could figure out all these black box parts. Opus 4.8 was surprisingly good at figuring out complicated workflows and document them. My next task is to tell Claude to simplify the code by taking out obsolete parts.
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>>109225390
>vibeposting
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>>109225125
>don't complain about bad things, ever!
It could have been like Indeed but it became Facebook instead. Getting a job has nothing to do with being full of jeetminded cucks.
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>company i work for is slowly getting bankrupt
>worked with them for 4 years
>got my 30 day notice start of this month
>check jobs to apply to most are now AI engineers

legit question, can I apply to them? backend with some frontend experience, all Im seeing is full stack and AI jobs
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Thank you for your time. We have decided to move forward with another candidate. Good luck in your future endeavors:)
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>>109225241
that's burnout
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>>109225570
i try, most of them bore me after 5 minutes. and i used to play lots and lots. been sitting here for 2 hours now
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>>109225674
>can I apply
Who’s going to stop you?
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How do I get a fucking job, man
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>>109224961
Eastern EU contractor working for a German bank here. It's all WFH but now there's a full integration event happening (for a full fucking week) onsite in Germany. Should I go? I hate these events and the fake smiley corporate atmosphere so much.

Does it matter from my employment and performance review standpoint?
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>>109226312
How many fucking times do you people have to be told keeping a job is all about being likable and has NOTHING to do with actually doing your job?
It's all over these threads and the fucking Internet.

That is your answer.
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>>109226337
but I think I am likeable and chill to work with. Does likeability have anything to do with attending this goy humiliation rituals?
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>>109226312
Also contractor, but in Germany. How did you get that client if you don't mind me asking? Do you guys need a devops fag?
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>>109224961
best albums for this feel. seriously I want to feel destructive. bout to quit and hit the kill switch to fuck up everything on my code.
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>>109226312
I have to second what this anon says >>109226337

Just go. As a contractor, it is literally your job to network and build relationships with people
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>>109225575
I hate touching old code but especially refactoring it.
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>>109225125
You should be stripped of your human rights and be donated to cancer/HIV research
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>>109225241
this is why I haven't taken any pto yet
it's over
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personally I like claude because its the only "person" that isnt an idiot and doesnt talk to me like im an idiot
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>>109225938
Accept starting on entry-level job. Strictly programming or coding is not entry-level anymore, by any means. Nothing that involves actual computer science or software engineering has an entry-level access today.
Get some beginner computer guy certificates and start doing field tech support. I started this way, up to sysadmin, now I'm kind of like a jack of all trades programmer. I'm not exactly making a lot of money, but I have a job and it pays the bills.
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>>109226591
helpdesk does not lead to swe
fuck you boomer
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Wednesday morning humiliation ritual, you ready?
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guys I had an idea
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>>109226770
Stop having it
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>>109225674
Anon, those companies looking for "AI" engineers are going to be out of business in a few years because they are training LLMs to do what they do and opensource LLMs are training on those LLMs.
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>>109226794
benchod
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>>109225464
How much do you think Amazon delivery pays over being a codemonkey, Anon?
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>>109226800
Yes Jeet. I've plowed more then a few of your kinswomen.
The pussy game of those oversexed yet under and very poorly fucked bitches is ridiculous.
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>>109226824
I'm guessing a lot less, but I'm frugal and it might be worth for not having to deal with my boss or clients.
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>>109226348
If you have to ask, you're literally autistic and you will always be disliked by management.
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>mr president, a second light skin shade has hit Microsoft teams (actually it’s called medium light)
I’m glad MS is dedicated to improving the teams experience
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>>109226863
On average it's almost a quarter of the pay
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>>109226898
There's only one person in my office who uses a distinct shade and she's a Mexican gen xer
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>We will get back to you next week and let you know if you are hired
>Already wednesday
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>>109226924
weird, the Mexican zillenial woman is the only one at my job who uses a non-default shade. is it just a mexican thing?
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>Xbox Indian CEO Asha Sharma just announced firing 3,200 Americans.
>She filed for 5,000 H-1B visa hires this year.
>Asha was appointed CEO of Xbox in February by Indian Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella.
I'm tired of winning
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>>109226924
Those 4 thumbs up are all from jeets. No they don’t match their actual skin colour
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Any oldfags here? Can you still work in tech past your 40s?
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>>109226898
I stick with lego master race even though I'm a white supremacist
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>got an email from director this morning telling me to use my actual extension in email sig instead of the generic dept line
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>>109226956
yes, but after 55 it's impossible
>i just want to put in 10 years padding out my 401k and passing along skills to the youth
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>>109226913
>a quarter of the pay
that's bullshit, in average software engineers make what, 80k? 90k? nobody would work for 25k a year driving all day, it's at least 40k.
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>>109226956
I'm 49. But I've also worked in tech all my life, and in a pretty solid position now in a company I've been at for 15 years.
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>>109226945
jeets are worse than jews because they don't even hide it
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>>109226985
Is it possible to move into non-engineering roles within a tech company? I would hate to be a manager but if that's what I gotta do to not be homeless...
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>>109226373
Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence
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>>109226373
This album:
>>109227005
and this album
<---
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how do i fraud through 6 rounds of technical interviews
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>>109226991
The average for software engineers in America is $188k, and Amazon delivery drivers make $20-25 and hour, or about $40k-50k.
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is anyone here a Data Analyst for a non-tech company? That seems comfy
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>>109227022
>The average for software engineers in America is $188k
exclude california and jew york from this and it's far less
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>>109226991
>nobody would work for 25k a year driving all day
anon...
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>>109227027
My sister in law is a data analyst for a big-4 accounting firm working on a contract for the pentagon. Turnover in defense contracting is high and layoffs are frequent. Kinda like the gaming industry; when a project is over they either put you on a new project or fire you until they have a new project. She got laid off for the first time a few months ago and is back working at the same place now.
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>>109227018
You don't.
They want 6 rounds of free labour. They will then tell you that they went another direction.
AKA we found an H1B who will do a shit job for nickels and will get another tech who is actually competent and desperate for work to fix their fuck up during "interviews".
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>>109227042
Amazon delivery drivers still only make up to $50k even in California and Jew York. In a state where a SWE is making right at $100k or less, that Amazon delivery driver is making $40k, so not a quarter but below half the paycheck.
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>>109227058
>pic
Which one is your sister?
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>>109227071
The Mexican guy on the left
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>>109227061
why is this general so full of dumb defeated losers
>NOOO DONT EVEN TRY THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH 6 ROUNDS OF LEETCODE (unpaid labor, somehow...) AND THEN HIRE A JEET BECAUSE...?
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>>109227277
Pessimists hate it when other people aren't as miserable as they are.
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>>109226985
that's pretty grim i have no plan
is software eng a meme unless you made it onto the "retire early" track? i certainly haven't as a europoor
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>robots want to take this away from you
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>>109227343
I look like that and I say and do that
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>>109227399
No you don't. This is you right?
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>>109227343
I literally just did this lul
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>>109227126
Damn, you know John Romero?
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>>109227431
WFH is the best thing that came out of covid.
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My grandfather started our precision machining company after the war, my dad expanded it nationally, and I recently stepped in as CEO after finishing my business degree. The first thing I did was remove all the chairs from the shop floor. If they're sitting down, they're thinking about unions instead of productivity.

I don't like calling them employees. I prefer "production assets." It helps reinforce the culture. Every morning I walk through the plant in spotless loafers, point at random machines, and ask things like, "Is this spindle maximizing shareholder value?" They usually just stare at me, which tells me they're intimidated by strong leadership.

I've also started referring to everyone by their payroll number instead of their name. It keeps things professional. Last Friday one of them mentioned he'd missed his kid's baseball game because of overtime, so I congratulated him on demonstrating commitment to the company. He didn't seem very appreciative, but that's the problem with hourly people...they're always focused on the short term.

Dad says morale has never been lower, but quarterly profits are up 0.8%, so I think history will vindicate me.
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>>109227343
*farts*
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>>109227425
god I wish this was me
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>>109227464
>t. Rust programmer
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>>109227481
not the one with the tits, anon
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How the job market feels right now.
CCNP w Masters btw
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>>109227499
I’m using gpt 5.5 rn and it’s so stupid and can’t do basic code it’s genuinely amazing
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>>109227873
Yeah it really feels like these AI shilling retards live in a parallel universe. I would say it's spambots, but there's so many of them. Are there really this many bots on 4chan?
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>>109226699
>helpdesk does not lead to swe
Field tech support is not help desk, you absolute mongoloid. You start by programming scripts to make your life easier, then you start offering solutions they could easily buy from a third party, but instead they buy from you, because it's already made. By you. And you're already working there, so they know you and you sell cheap to overcome the external market. Create an "ecosystem", then expand to other companies. Worked like a charm, started in the field 8 years ago. Software dev head first is a fucking trap, fall for it if you want, get your certificates, update your repos regularly and whatnot, and prepare to compete with jeets and be substituted by people like me: managerial sysadmins with AI. 20% actual technical abilities, 80% lack of shame. You don't know how every market works. There are local markets for IT/tech, every region has an employability environment. If computerfags focused on dominating the local markets instead of riding trends or cowering from people, things wouldn't be so bad.
>boomer
You don't need to work for 30 years to advance in your career if your brain cells works alright. But you obviously can't fathom that. I'm just using your post to give golden tidbits to thinking anons.
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Is retardation a prerequisite for working for an Internet provider?
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>>109227499
Leetcode is only one letter away from jeetcode.
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>>109227873
I use Opus 4.8 at work and it's really good at understanding code and writing it too. It has some quirks of course, but it's overall an enormous timesaver.
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>>109225125
I have never received a response from a job I have applied to on LinkedIn. Indeed is the only one that actually works. I'm a senior systems engineer so I'm in demand, not some regular help desk pleb
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>>109227958
I got a job interview through LinkedIn once, but that's all. Just applying regularly has worked better.
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>>109226929
Sorry anon, I'm the frontrunner for that position you applied for, they're waiting on me to get back to them on their offer. You see I'm leveraging your dream job against some higher paying positions to see if the company will go higher on that salary. Maybe I'll get back to them at the end of the week. Nothing personal kiddo
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>>109227957
Honestly free Claude was always the worst of the worst when it comes to it so I never even tried the paid options. I mean if GPT is stupid in a way that makes you feel like you’re guiding a retarded junior Claude was like someone you’d tell “don’t bother, you should work a trade job buddy”. Maybe the paid options are great idk
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>>109226863
Don’t do that, quiet quit and stack for retirement first. You’ll regret working for Amazon over your ez cushy tech job
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>>109226945
You should take a look at those “Americans” social media. Nothing of value was lost
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>>109228069
The paid version of Opus 4.8 that our company uses is really good. It's not jeet level code at all.

A few days ago I also used it successfully for DB analysis. I'm a developer, not a DBA, so I have a good but not in-depth understanding about how databases work. I gave it a description of the tables and PL/SQL queries and asked it to create diagnostics on why the queries would be slow. It gave me a diagnostics script I then ran, and fed it back the results. It correctly identified some issues that I wasn't aware of that even could have existed. Of course it takes a few iterations back and forth but it found things I never would have. The main culprit slowdown was an index-related problem which it correctly identified and provided a fix.
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>>109224961
why is linkedin's hq blowing up?
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>>109228187
The users found out they were feeding people's information to israeli data farms.
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My company announced a private equity buyout today. Can I get some Fs in the chat?
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>>109225125
The firm I got hired at doesn't even use LinkedIn for hiring. LinkedIn is just Pajeet Facebook and bota bro. I got hired by applying directly to a company website. No gimmicky shit like LinkedIn is needed for serious applicants.
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>>109224961
are there good like networking spots online that aren't as homosexual as linkedin and like actually worth using? I live in the middle of nowhere in the midwest so there aren't any in person meet ups near me. And I just want to grow my network to try and get a new job in a year or so without having to just hope my applications make it through the HR roasties
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>>109227906
Theyre AI bros and business bros who are just retarded, they desperately want AI to put all coders out of a job because it means more money for them and also lets them live their longtime fantasy of being a jock shoving nerds into lockers in high school (all of them are daddys money failsons and never did this)
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>>109228205
Remember, private equity is run by dumbasses that can cover up their mistakes with money and will make everyone else work harder. Time to leave because there won't be no bonuses, hiring, or salary increases for the next until they sell.
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>company is paying for me to get my masters
>had a zoom meeting with my college advisor today
>she is also the professor of one of my first courses
>seems nice enough
>offers to send me some coursera links for prep since I've been out of school since 2017
>looks like pic related
Did I luck out?
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>>109228239
I agree but I'm going to stay here as long as I can, I work remote and get paid well, its pretty cushy.

We get acquired before the year ends so I'll get to see what my yearly salary increase is fairly soon and make a decision based on that.
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>>109228242
She my type
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I've read people talking about blairesdev in the last thread, anyone care to tell about their hiring process? I'm quite rusty on the leet code side of things.
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>>109228242
her eggs are drying up, anon-kun! it's up to you to save her!
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how different is interviewing for Sr. SWE compared to mid-level SWE? never interviewed for Sr. before, but trying to make the jump before mid-level gets gutted like juniors and interns did
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>can't fun-post because current zeitgeist lack any sense of sarcasm and abstraction
>can't post funny animals because of fvr dalit

I find it difficult to act professional if I cannot do anything interesting even online. I wish normies could get censored with rl-ids or something and leave the net.
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>>109226956
i'm 58, been programming since i was 13. never had a job, just contracts. tried out ai last summer and it sucked. tried it again last winter and it got so fucking much better. i use codex daily, and have gone from having 1, maybe 2, paid client(s) at a time to having 4. it's fucking amazing. i'm not sure how long this will last, but i figure if i can stay just *slightly* ahead of the curve (which is what i've done over the past 40+ years of my career), i should be able to stay relevant until i finally decide to quit. but, i love programming (and now, mainly architecting and managing the ai's), so i'm not sure i'll ever quit.
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I asked my company to give me 2x pay and they said no :/
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havent eaten in 26 hours just drank a zero sugar redbull and even though im depressed and angry from my job i feel light headed and dizzy and like im going to pass out but also AMAZING holy shit i love fasting
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>>109228604
Damn even oldfags are selling out...
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>>109228861
Sounds fun. I love such stuff but...
>Being perfect and ready for work
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>shitting out my resume to anything that matches my experience level (4 yoe, no degree)
>get a response
>I applied to "Sr. LOW LEVEL TOOLS DEVELOPER"
>check the job requirements
>3 yoe in high level language + masters degree + willing to learn!
>check the job description
>YOU NEED TO BE FAMILIAR WITH EVERY ASPECT OF OPERATING SYSTEMS, DEBUGGING, PROFILING, ANALYZING, AND TRACING APPLICATIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT STACK
>interview process is 6 rounds
what the fuck? are they unable to find any qualified candidates for this shit or...?
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>>109228159
it seems it's always the same story.
>I don't know <X> and i used AI to do <X> and it did something, i was very impressed, agi in two weeks bros!
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my job is firing nearly 300 engineers in the US and europe and hiring new ones in hyderabad by 2030. i thought the indian thing was a meme but it's real.
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>>109227873
GPT5.5 sucks. Opus is where it's at.
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>IT has decided to spam our mail with fake scam emails from their main IT account
>If you click them, it logs you, and they berate you
Am I the only one who thinks that if the main IT email is compromised, we should be berating IT instead?
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>>109229117
happened to me, thanks for the paid vacation Srini
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>>109229117
winning
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I failed a leetcode easy lmao, I need to fucking practice this shit
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I got my master's degree in CS with honors from top 3 uni in my europoor country. Now i'm working as a janitor for minimum wage.

AI destroyed my life, AI took my job, AI made me permanent underclass, AI made me childfree.
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>>109229367
what's the point of leetcode in 2026? no one is writing code anymore. maybe only reading in rare cases...
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>>109229209
Your security jeets are retards. Ours send them from external email addresses at least but they are always insanely obviously fake
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>>109229376
idk but interviews still have them, so we just gotta suck it up and move forward
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>>109229391
just cheat. everyone is cheating now. there's no point of memorizing and practicing leetcode anymore. just cheat with ai and that's all.
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>>109228242
She's cute. She has the sexually pent up cougar with a ton of wordporn stashed away on a kindle type. Befreind her, learn from her, shoot your shot when it's obvious she's ovulating, dick her down like she's a horny college girl.
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>>109229367
what was the question
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>>109227938
>stops streamers
What a fucking simp
>NOOOOOO MY STREAMER BOYFRIEND CANT MAKE MONEY
Gay.
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>>109229409
in some interviews you're spot checked, no way around it, plus I don't want to cheat
>>109229484
find the first unique character in a word, return its index
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>>109229497
>find the first unique character in a word, return its index
nigga do you know what a hashmap is
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>>109229367
i've tried after years. i'm getting stuck on the very first one lol.
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>>109229500
I know I fucked up, got nervous n shit
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>>109229497
use some shit like ultracoder or vibecode your own leetcode ai cheat tool.

you are competing with hoars of jeets and everyone is cheating right now.

all tech industry is basically a huge scam right now, everyone is cheating and scamming. don't think a lot, just play the game.
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>>109229497
>find the first unique character in a word, return its index
i want to make fun of you but i know how stupid i become when im put on the spot id probably invent some new way to do it in O(n^3)
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>>109229497
>find the first unique character in a word, return its index

was it during the real interview or you decided to practice on your own?
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>>109229497
func firstUniqueCharacterIndex(in word: String) -> Int? {
let frequency = word.reduce(into: [Character: Int]()) { $0[$1, default: 0] += 1 }
for (index, char) in word.enumerated() { if frequency[char] == 1 { return index }}
return nil
}

assert(firstUniqueCharacterIndex(in: "peepooj") == 6)
assert(firstUniqueCharacterIndex(in: "peepoo") == nil)
print("poopeepoopoo")


I've been asked a variant of this question before as well, couldn't believe they were giving me something that easy
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>>109229516
no, man, I've been hired before doing it fair and square, not about to lower myself like that. I was not prepared and that's it, just sharing it because it's funny that I was filtered by an easy one, AI brainrot is fucking real
>>109229521
>>109229525
yeah, it was during the real interview, I'm just not good at situations like that
>>109229541
count your blessings, not everyone is this lucky
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>>109229516
great way to get yourself banned from every major company lol
all of these platforms like hackerrank detect anything that appears on your screen above the browser, they can tell immediately if you're cheating.
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How do I go from helldesk to SWE?
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>>109229493
I was getting on the second guy delusions like:
>there is no ipv6 to ipv4 conversion
>No network is ready for IPv6 only
What is DNS64/NAT64?

How such a brainlet works for ISP? On the other hand it explains a lot.
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>>109225125
>owned by microshaft
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>>109225125
This. But you need to have a job first before it'll work. You add people from other companies like clients and consultants you meet through work. Then when you're thinking of switching you hit them up. If they remember that you did a good job then they'll get you an interview. It just works, that's how I've been job hopping every 3 years for huge pay increases.
But you DO have to make an effort to be likeable. No one will get you a job if they think you're boring or a chud.
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>>109225818
play retro games, modern videogames are souless
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>>109225241
I would like a week off, even if it is for doomscrolling all day but don't want to deal with stuff burning once I come back
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>1/3rd of the software market are jeets
>another 1/3rd are retarded gen x / millennials that haven't written a fizzbuzz manually in years
>another 30% are absolute retards that cant code and refuse to practice leetcode
feels good realizing that once you get past the technical screen you're only competing with like 2% of the entire market
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>>109229647
>guy who works in industry X says thing about industry X
>random /g/entooman who isn't in industry X thinks he knows better
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>>109226348
>goy humiliation rituals
Are you employed typing like that? If so I'm impressed.
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>training leetcode
>doing a project
Which is a better use of my time
Assuming the project is not regular crud shit but something like a simple video player or syntax parser
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>>109229765
are you getting interviews?
yes -> leetcode
no -> project
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>>109227979
>>109227958
you faggots simply don't understand the current meta. I have a PhD and ~5yoe in my field but it still took about 120 applications to get 6 interviews (of which 4 have progressed to the final stage)

the numbers game is simply a lot more brutal nowadays and you gotta work on your automated application preparation toolchain and resume keyword optimization
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>>109229775
That makes sense
I actually just did a gap year so doing a project to show I’m not rusty before sending out my CV, but the leetcode talk here made me wonder
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interviewing for a job I'm grossly unqualified for tomorrow
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>>109227452
Someone forgot to take their meds
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>>109229854
stop

fucking

replying

to the

reddit posts
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>>109227873
that sounds legit crazy. i have been using 5.4 since november and i've used it on about a dozen client projects and it only fucks up maybe once every few weeks. even then, it's easy to fix. but, i don't just tell it "[DO THING AND MAKE IT WORK IN 1 PASS]". i ask for its plan before it starts and i make sure we're on the same page before telling it to proceed. *that alone* has helped out a fuckton.
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>>109229765
if you haven't solved like 250+ leetcode problems you aren't ready for interviews anyways
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Senior Project Manager Jeeta at my job gets all flirty whenever I interact with her. is jeeta pussy worth it?
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Why do people want faang
Seems like hell
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>>109229966
Money, mostly. And it’s not so bad if you can find one of the little lower pressure pockets here and there.
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>>109229966
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>>109229844
At my last job, I interviewed someone like that. He was actually the best at the coding challenge, but he was way off on the soft questions. We were hiring a staff level, and he was like, "Yeah I wrote some tests one time"
I tried to push for hiring him at a lower level if a slot opened up, but idk what happened.
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no idea why people go out of their way to make their lives harder in an already shit and hard job market
>hi interviewee, thanks for applying to xyz globohomo corp (starting salary $150k)
>for your live coding question, can you implement topological sort?
>>NOOOOOO THIS IS JEWISH AND INDIAN NOOOOOOOOOO
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>Internal IT
>Medium sized company
>Obvious phishing email offering free money has done the rounds
>About half of the emails to us are "forwarding on this obvious spam", "have blocked and deleted but thought you should be aware" etc etc
>Other half are from "African" sounding names
>They have either been phished themselves and sent their own copy
>Or are asking if it's ok to claim the money into their monthly salary
For fuck sake. Nobody told me IT would be this boring, but hilarious at the same time.
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>>109229966
Literally a golden ticket on your CV for the rest of your career anywhere.
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>>109228983
if by that you mean: figuring out how to use the latest tools effectively, then yeah. but, like i said earlier, that's how i've managed to have a fun cool career for 45 years. ai is just the latest new software development tool. ignore it at your own risk.
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>>109230061
kek
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>>109225125
i can hate it and use it at the same time, and i do
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>>109229805
Times probably have changed, but I'm happy my current job is quite solid and it's very likely I will not be fired or laid off.
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>>109230266
you will be forced to jester for and get skinned alive by recruiters as soon as you get laid off, boomer
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>>109230306
Recruiters will be replaced by AI way before tech people are.
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>>109228201
>these are the assholes that won't give us a job
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>meeting in 7 hours
>prepared for this properly well in advance
>still have to sleep and only got a 4 hour nap this afternoon
how the fuck am I going to survive this
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>>109227343
I am beyond giving a fuck. Last time I said something along the lines of "I'm tired, my mind already shut off so I have nothing to add.". Somehow people respect me for doing that.
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>be me
>take some time off work to camp
>sit around fire nothing on the mind
>stare at lake and birds empty minded
>go back to job
>always figity
>get home and bored by hobbies so dooms roll instead
This a normal experience for y'all?
I feel like I can just take a chill pill and do nothing with nothing on my mind when out in nature but as soon as I return to civilization I always have to be doing something.
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>>109230592
>no one checks
it will be checked as part of the hiring process
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>>109231273
Pretty normal to be cozy and with the world in the outdoors. At work i always think about home and at home i always think about work or at the very least keep myself busy with home projects of which i am going down the list and then have to think of what to do with myself whenever i finish.
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UNION FIND !!!!!!
https://leetcode.com/problems/path-existence-queries-in-a-graph-i/description/?envType=daily-question&envId=2026-07-09
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>>109229966
I enjoy the job. I like being part of something big that actually gets used by people, it feels much more meaningful than working at AI startup with a garbage misspelled name making a product absolutely no one gives a shit about for a "founder" to maybe make bank.
I get top of the line everything, and I solve problems that otherwise I would need to be in academia for, but I don't want to teach digital logic 101
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>>109227771
>CCNP
Network manger here, what experience do you have?
>Masters
Do not care
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>>109231926
15 years but brass tax is 8 years of that was NOC work and those 4 shitty years before that was shitty desk side support getting my degree/certs to move to the NOC. Current pay $152k
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>>109229962
that depends, what caste?
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>>109228242
GOD the shit i would do to this woman’s face, tummy, and cervix
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>>109232049
Can't tell for sure but she's in early forties and kinda mid
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>>109232207
Pic related
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>>109232243
Colonise ASAP
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>>109231298
liar benchod
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>>109230072
It really depends on what you did there. A lot of people end up in a role where they couldn't navigate the politics/bureaucracy or didn't get to work on interesting projects in the lets say 2 years they were there before they got laid off/pipped, and then it does you little good
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>>109232440
if you worked at google for at least 1 year you can get a job at any non faang instantly
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I did 3 interviews, and the last thing the 3rd interviewer said to me during the interview was that if things went well, their HR team would reach out to me to discuss compensation and sign the contract.
That was last Thursday, and I haven't heard from them since.
Am I officially ghosted?
They were getting back to me pretty quickly at first - about 2 business days between each interview arrangement.
1st interview was on Jun 22, the 2nd on Jun 25, and the 3rd on Jul 2.
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>>109225125
Maybe he hates it because they hoard data.
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>>109232494
>>109230072
this, my boss hired someone from faang and thought he caught an elite worker who would fix all his problems, turns out they were shit and useless
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>tfw every time I'm in laundry and cleaning agents area in a store
Some day I may actually be happy.


I got outvoted on improvements on automation for janitorial tasks. In the end I voted myself against my idea because in the end I'll just bounce the tickets back to these morons instead of wasting my breath to improve something that's not my kpi.
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I hate my job, I hate my life, and I hate myself most of all.
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Become a lineman anons
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>>109232682
i dont wanna be a drug addict
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>>109232647
If you don't like software dev you deserve to suffer.
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>>109232697
If I hated it Why'd I'd propose automation? Are you one of these retarded boomer "gamers who were good with computers" or degree maxing retard zoomer who went into tech for "easy money"?
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Why is making a good resume so deceptively hard
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>>109229700
You will never have a tech job.
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>>109232693
That’s why they invented alcohol
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>>109233323
I keep drinking and it barely does anything.
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I just have a lot of anxiety lately. I'm confident in my own skills over the last 13 years, but I don't believe skills matter much for keeping a job. Companies seem to wholesale shed their employees at the drop of a hat, for any reason, and enough of them are doing it that the competition for any job opening is insane. I can't control any of that. I wonder if this current job will be my last one in tech because it feels like the industry is crashing.
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I’m a qa subhuman (albeit a lead now) should and can I move towards a PM sort of role?
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>>109233565
no
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>>109233565
MBA and PMP or bust. PM's are mostly women and useless from my experience.
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>>109228604
Any tips on learning architecture as a young whippersnapper?
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>>109233635
Yeah actually this is more what I was thinking, some kind of business/management degree
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im a fullstack web dev shitter, fully replacable
probably gonna kms if I get fired
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>>109233431
What’s your drink of choice
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>>109229746
yes? not from my work machine of course
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>>109233672
Rum, Gin, Brandy/Cognac, Wine(Cabernet Sauvignon, Barolo, Bradesco, Moet"white") and the only beer i really like is Sapporo & Asahi. I don't do mixed drinks since sugar drys me out when drinking.
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>>109233565
QA can definitely shift over to PM but I personally wouldn't make that jump.
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>>109233431
drinking sucks. never understood why people like it. its harder on your body and mind than some opiates are and just as addictive for some people.
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>>109232658
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>>109233789
Opiates give some people constipation. Alcohol wakes me up 4 hours feeling refreshed. But that could just be my pancreas waking me up to get some carbs in since i am at keto at that point.
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>>109233789
It tastes very good and its the only legal drug.
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Is it over anons? I am saving until september at the minimum to keep my savings at 18 months of expenses.
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>>109233815
>only legal drug
>typical goyim who does't know about caffeine
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>>109233789
Honestly I tried all kinds of hard drugs and drinking and weed are the only drugs that are actually fun and don’t feel like a fast forward spell that leaves you sick. Weed makes doing nothing fun and alcohol makes you social and energetic, at least before you get blackout drunk. It’s nice to go to a bar, drink a bit, get loose and talk with randos about politics or whatever, maybe make some new friends, maybe fuck.
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>>109233895
>bars
>friends
Only in a college town good luck outside of it i tried.
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>a flgs near me has freaking drop in d&d every freaking wednesday
>just need to roll up 48 unique 3rd level characters (4 of each class) so I can start running the modules out of quests for the infinite staircase and network for a tech job that way
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>>109233894
Caffeine is pissweak compared even to methylphenidate, doesn't do much besides keep you awake.
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>>109233987
I’m a euro so maybe that makes things different.
How is it outside of college towns? People ignore you?
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Can't believe I went through seven rounds of interviews to deal with code that looks like this.
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>>109234095
People do more than just ignore you. They outright tell you to fuck off in the US. College towns which are known for higher than average pop of students tend to be more friendly even in the outlying area of a bars/clubs. But if you go to a big city even those bars are stuffy with backwards ass people who don't want to socialize outside of the friend group they brought with them.
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>>109234146
That sucks. Honestly people in the US seem incredibly rude and hostile overall. I never understood if it’s a perception I got from online or reality.
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>>109234155
Its a mix. You get a surface level of kindness and willingness to help but no one is really friendly anymore or even when i grew up they were all assholes. It works since society functions on getting shit done but deeper bonds of any kind are rare if not impossible to form. Long term friendship/family relationships are hard. We don't even have the asian excuse of competition to fight over at least until recently it started showing up so its getting worse. At least we aren't 2 face or rude as the koreans however. worked there for 2 years and it was enough.
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Win 11 suddenly does not detect my identity card. I can't log in now.
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>>109234205
They know.
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>>109234205
>He doesn't know.
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>>109234035
typical fried brain goyim response
drink some more goy
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Mom says it’s time to start walking the streets
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>>109234455
I seen your mom walking the streets, douchebag
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>le light link rail is le broken
>every other commute takes 80+ minutes
Fuck it, working from home
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>>109234640
On my end, the office AC is broken this week.
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>>109234110
saar we is good coder saar
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What is your favorite sport?
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>had team meeting at 8:05 this morning regarding recent staff changes
>forgot my doodling notebook so I was just dicking around on phone playing falling blocks game
>kinda worried about being disrespectful but I'm considered (recently) seniority so w/e
>around 2 hours after meeting breaks, old lady director stops by my office
>I'm actually working instead of dicking around on my phone
>she says she has a request for me, "but a different kind of request..."
>immediately sensed I was about to be chastised
>"...and it's your fault I'm coming to you about this..."
>oh shit oh fuck
>"...because I've seen that you can draw"
>confusion
>apparently she wants me to come up with an office schematic for emergencies
Ngl I was sweating bullets but it feels good to be recognized for my slight artistic ability. I've only been drawing seriously for not even a year, everything prior to that has been tracing/compositing
Sorry for blogging
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>>109232243
kinda sudra coded, vaishya at best
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>>109234205
you wouldn't happen to have a 15 minute "org meeting" booked on your calendar would you?
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>27 year old software developers
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>>109234917
...what about me
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>>109228011
Is this true?
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>>109234917
>22 year old software developers
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>>109234917
>2X
come back when your balls drop and your credit score goes up, kiddo
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>ceo/pm vibe coded some new feature
>we are supposed to test it
>actually use AI to find bugs and improvements
>they use AI to decided if suggestions are going to be implemented
>person in charge of fixing shit also use ai
>detailed emails and documentation absolutely no one reads
>meetings are just meme buzzwords salads
>absolutely no direction
>management does fuck all, no prd or documentation at all
>want everyone to be more proactive
I'd go back to php and jquery in a hearbeat
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>>109235141
If this happens to me I would immediately start looking for another job desu, the company is going to crash and burn soon anyway
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>>109233780
Why not?
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>>109225679
Grok, make her barefoot
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>>109234891
All that matters is if jeeta can suck them dry
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>>109225679
why would she print out your resume just to tear it apart
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>>109235512
She was on her period
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>>109235609
anime dont have period
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>>109235241
I don't like dealing with stakeholders regardless of if they are internal or external.
Some people are good at that, but not me!
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>>109225679
is this AI?
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>>109229066
me when the senior position has interviews
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>>109229700
t. unemployed forever
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>>109232509
we need to make ghosting illegal
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>>109234963
you're not a software developer until you have a software development job
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it's almost Friday. I kind of don't feel well. I'm being burnt out from trying to fit in as a normie, but being an autismo during the time of crisis and danger, isn't optimal either.

And it's not like I can join musk's space force and nuke the bad guys and become a hero rather than french an hero.
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>6 round interview process
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>>109224961
Do euroids apply to jobs in other euroid countries and actually get hired?

It would be nice having a broader pool to apply to but i assume most corpos would have a home bias unless the corpo itself is very multinational already
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>>109236108
actually if you include a direct screening with the hiring manager, it's 7
>round 1 hiring manager interview (just talking about experience, etc)
>round 2 technical screening (leetcode)
>round 3 more in depth technical interview (leetcode again)
>4 rounds of panels about different topics
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>>109236168
Don't bother. EU countries only hire if you're a native speaker of their language.
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>>109236168
...then again a lot of countries are more than willing to fill their entire team with jeets, so i dont even know lol
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>>109236168
>euroids
>getting hired
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>>109236177
Indians are superior, Timmy.
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>>109236176
Maybe i should learn more real languages instead of js frameworks...
>>109236178
Its oveur isnt it..?
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>>109236198
Why do you insist on calling white men "Timmy" when that is not even a common name in Europe, Ranjeet? Indians suck ass and are all getting replaced by AI now.
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>>109236177
if hiring was about competence then there would have been an HR holocaust 20 years ago
white collar jobs of all types are effectively sinecures now, its amazing that people are shocked when the sinecures go toward preferred classes instead of being distributed based on competence
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>>109236201
>Maybe i should learn more real languages instead of js frameworks...
The big three JS frameworks are all fairly similar and don't take much time to pick up.
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>>109236215
It's always been about having luck and connections. Having a degree, certificates and job experience is just a formal necessity.
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>working from home
>on lunch
>leave the home office and go to another room
>crank one out
This isn't weird right? I'm at home and in a different room so it's not like there's any risk.
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>>109236228
>luck and connections
recently its more about being nonwhite or female. rewrite your resume to be a woman and see what happens
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>>109236234
Yeah but women want to work with animals and shit, they don't care about tech.
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>>109236219
I was joking, i mostly do backend
>>109236228
Might be but i always felt much more qualified compared to my network
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>>109236233
I've masturbated at work before.
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>>109236269
which is why as a woman with a cs degree you can apply to basically any tech position and instantly get hired even if you are literally retarded
and this doesnt actually apply to trannies btw which is fucking hilarious. the boomers and hr karens want real females
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>>109236282
>and this doesnt actually apply to trannies btw which is fucking hilarious. the boomers and hr karens want real females
What about Rust positions?
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>>109236282
I've had a manager try to eplain that diversity is important not because of pozzed reasons but because of studies that proved that having people from all backgrounds increases productivity
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>>109236305
Sociology isn't a real science.
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>>109236297
most trannies are unemployed welfare queens why do you think they are so massively overrepresented in chatroom moderation and open source shit?
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>>109236324
I was making a joke about Rust devs all being trans. But anyway I don't really care about transgender people to begin with, heck I even think it's good they exist. Less competition, potentially more supply with mtf transgender men and the women who are stupid enough to go ftm can experience the full extent of going from tutorial mode to short balding manlet with a fake dick mode.
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>>109236352
i mean sure you have an army of mentally ill turbo-libtards obsessively ruining everything you find fun but i guess there are slightly fewer sub 5 men on the market
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>>109236278
Now that's bold. I haven't done that yet.
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>>109236233
do this like once a month
usually like a friday and i flick through /s/ for a chuckle
but sometimes think of the toilfu, get a stonk on, have to go sort it out
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>>109236471
>toilfu
the what
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>hated my job
>They keep firing people with generous severance packages
>I'm forced to stay
>Got word from my manager today I'm almost definitely getting the promotion I've been chasing for years
It's like 100k more total comp for the work I've been doing for years now. I guess I'll suck it up for a little longer. Worst case if I get the axe the severance package will be at this new comp range.
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Been out of work for a few years. Hitting up leetcode and doing interview prep now.

How important is familiarity with all this agentic/ai shit for SWE now? I've obviously used it because it's better at answering specific questions than SO or just a googlel search, but I'd never want it to do anything more than generate boilerplate code (which most IDEs can do already). Do people add what coding models they've used to their resumes now?
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>>109229591
Exactly: they can only tell if something is running ON the computer you're having the test.
Just pull up your phone and send all that stuff into ChatGPT or whathaveyou. Then copy that text.

Do they have webcam "proctoring"? Record a video of your own browsing the ch0n and have it playing on loop over a virtual webcam or buy an external HDMI capture card and plug in another device playing the video for extra protection.
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>>109236659
Claude Opus has gotten quite good in the past year. All it takes is a few iterations to get a relatively good solution for moderately difficult tasks if you know what you're doing.
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>>109236679
>relatively
>moderately
I can't help but notice all the qualifying words, anon.
What are some examples of these tasks that you've done recently? Can the model also generate test automation?
And, at this point, what's even the point of code reviews? Especially when someone can churn out thousands (or tens of thousands) LOC with a few commands.
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im so tired frens. im about to just end it
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>>109236744
The universe is indifferent to your suffering (and so am I).
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>>109236794
no the universe fucking hates me.
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>>109234205
turns out it was an issue a bunch of people had. All good
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>>109236744
my mind races to that point as well
I thought you anons were joking about the jeet epidemic in the software engineering industry
turns out things can be so much worse than that
I have no suggestion this time, I'm trying to find a new job myself, while managing what little mental and physical health I have left
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>>109236618
>100k more total comp for the work I've been doing for years now
anon unless you accidentally added a zero or unless that's in pesos then that's really good
congratulations, it sounds like you made it and can successfully coast along with bare minimum performance metrics at this point
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>>109236808
>Turns out the company is doing mass layoffs
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>>109233459
Similar experience. I'm young enough I'm just working on an exit plan for a total pivot out of the industry while I've still got my current gig. Probably last chance in life to do so. Outlook just seems grim, and wasn't amazing even fresh out of college. Seems like even if things really get better, you're going to have to go through hell for a while.
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I got out of the rat race a few years ago, and good god what a relief. I can't even fathom how you guys are going to make it.
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>>109236860
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>>109235141
Lol, do we work together? Just kidding, I know this is just what every company that got equity butt-fucked in the 2010s looks like now.
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>>109236975
what do you do now?
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>>109236208
The Timmy meme is also weird considering Indians are all named shit like Budfukklar and Cumninja. Jesus, talk about glass houses.
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>>109236880
No mistakes. I work for one of the few tech companies still paying great salaries. It'll put me at nearly 400k TC. The bad news is the only way I'll ever top that is if I go to fagman and I don't have that kind of dedication in me. No coasting. Just eternal stress until I die or get fired.
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>>109237039
my one true passion: sucking cock behind a wendy's
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>>109236735
>What are some examples of these tasks that you've done recently? Can the model also generate test automation?
-writing unit tests
-checking unstaged changes for consistency
-refactorings
There's probably a lot more that can be done with it but it depends on project size, complexity and architecture.
>And, at this point, what's even the point of code reviews?
Deny PRs of overly complex or large solutions unless there is a very good reason behind it. AI likes to generate more code than it should.
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>>109236744
Don't die just yet. Trump needs you to fight for Israel.
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>>109237085
Which Wendy's and what days are you usually there?
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>>109237085
Nice. Do they do 401k match?
>>109237100
>Deny PRs of overly complex or large solutions unless there is a very good reason behind it.
Based.
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>>109237068
I’m at fagman now and don’t even make half that. Your life is great.
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How the fuck do I even land an internship as a CS major? Feels fucking impossible to do.
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>>109236735
>And, at this point, what's even the point of code reviews?
code reviews have never been more important. you hopefully arent a staff engineer
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>>109237145
internships are reserved for nepo hires, particularly nepo hires who happen to need a visa
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>>109237156
I was a scrotum master when I last had a job and I would give my SME team members extra points to cover them for the flood of PRs they were always included in so they could look good in the metrics without going completely insane/burning out.
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>tfw I made half a dozen 5000+ LOC change PRs this year already
I swear it's not my fault that the task at hand required me to touch everything!
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>>109237145
If you can't do it through your college or a connection, don't bother. Just look for entry-level SWD parallel jobs and make it clear you plan on internally transitioning into dev as soon as you can. Also, condolences. I got in when conditions were already rapidly declining, but I can't imagine trying to START a CS career at this exact moment.
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The hottie milf supervisor stopped by to complain about one of our contractors and we got to talking about AI she apparently hates big corpo tech companies and wants UBI.
I was just sneaking peeks at her hips and ass the entire time.
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>>109237199
Is it really that fucking dire?
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>>109237287
You have reddit and 4chan both agreeing that the market is beyond catastrophic.
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>>109237295
not only is it already cooked but we arent even in the recession yet
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>>109237197
Then break the task down into subtasks. Don't be the asshole everyone secretly hates with such huge PRs.
Or be prepared to accept an NMP rubberstamp and then eat shit when your slop eventually blows up on prod.
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>>109237313
or just put the effort into reviewing your own code properly and ship the prs with proper documentation so the manager who is hopefully competent (LOL) knows you did your homework
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>>109237287
You can make it. Conditions are just such that making it probably isn't going to be worth it for all the horseshit you'll have to deal with. Unless you love it for it's own sake or are super naturally adept that you'll excel without really trying, start considering doing something else before you sink too much time in it.
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>>109237282
can you stop posting these pictures from a boomer movie and blogging about your retarded boomer life? thanks
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>>109237352
please just go back zoom zoom
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>>109237352
Office space is a gen-Xer movie, not a boomer movie.
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>>109237352
I think you're imagining my other posts in your head, because they don't exist.
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>>109237321
I'm already a senior
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>>109225390
imagine using calude to make aislopped posts on 4chins
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crazy to think that if it wasn't for jeets the average cs grad would be walking into a $200k a year job with onsite training
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>>109237390
Sorry. Thought you were the guy asking about internships.
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>>109226312
they will get drunk and will show you how much they actually hate pollacks
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>>109237390
>>109237408
Unless you mean a senior in college, in which case, you don't have to do what you got your degree in. Any fucking hard-science-but-not-post-graduate degree recipient will tell you that.
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You guys went to college?
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>>109237433
No I went to uni, saar.
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>>109237407
Give it time Anon. They pull this shit every decade.
>Outsource all of the jobs
>Doesn't work because there's no accountability
>Send white people to India to manage jeet farms
>Still doesn't work because they're fucking retarded
>Send infinity jeets to America and figure that will solve it
>They scam their way past the interview and can't actually perform on job
>Finally create AI that will upgrade even the dumbest Jeet to a 10x engineer
>They burn thousands in tokens and produce 10x slop that doesn't work
Eventually after every cycle they come to realize that not only is outsourcing not going to be cheaper but I'm fact they'll spend more money hiring back Western CS for grads to clean that shit up at the new going rate.
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>>109237438
>Eventually after every cycle they come to realize that not only is outsourcing not going to be cheaper
how did that work out for manufacturing
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>>109237445
Outsourced to China where it actually somewhat worked.
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>>109237438
Why would I want to clean up SAAR shit? Surely my tech skills are transferable to some other profession [spoiler]r-right, bros?
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>>109237458
if you think labor glut/visa abuse issues only apply to tech you're in for a rude awakening
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>>109237472
Do you ever think about those relatively niche industries where they can't ever find enough people because the training has a lot of overhead and pay is mediocre but liveable? Those seem pretty immigrants proof.
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>>109237494
those dont exist or they are gatekept through methods other than credentialling (which implicitly gatekeeps (You))
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>>109237503
You're damn right they're gatekept because we don't want jeetards fucking up our culture.
Luckily for me ate shit long enough to prove my worth and got promoted into a comfy position where I rarely have to deal with clientele (i.e. poor people).
Stakeholders do get on nerves though and I've been chastised 2x in the past 3 months for not kissing enough ass.
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>>109237572
ok so you're a legacy boomer whose job will be permanently eliminated once you are laid off or leave the company, just like the 50000 or so gamedevs that have been laid off this year and replaced with indians
lol
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I'm up to 6 interviews now at apple and 4/6 of them have been with white guys with european (mainly german and eastern european) sounding names
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>>109225125
I've never gotten an interview from LinkedIn.

Hackernews, Reddit, Discord, church yup but never a single one from LinkedIn.
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>>109237591
Sounds like when I was at Cisco and got hired by a team of white guys. All of us even had beards.
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>>109237068
I don't mind difficult technical projects with tight deadlines. In fact I left a big tech company to work somewhere like that.

AFAIK FAANG doesn't do that sort of thing anymore. Most of the difficulty now is internal administrative bullshit which is the absolute worst kind of thing to stress over because you can't "just fix it."
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>>109237612
>Cisco
nightmarish
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>>109236282
I taught my ex to program and she got a CS degree. She seems to have an even harder time getting hired than I do.
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>>109237591
So did you fail or? How can you do 6 interviews without an answer
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>>109234656
I'd tell them I'm working from home until it's fixed.
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>>109233987
I moved back to my college town and guess what: zoomers don't drink so it's all boomers at bars.
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>>109237630
each apple team does their own recruiting process separately, and you can interview with multiple teams at the same time. I've interviewed with 4 teams.
>team 1, technical screening -> technical interview -> rejected
>team 2, hiring manager screen -> rejected (she was female)
>team 3, technical screen -> technical interview 1 -> technical interview 2 with hiring manager -> passed, waiting on next steps
>team 4, hiring manager interview -> waiting results
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>>109237626
The trick to being happy as a corporate employee is to treat the corporation and your job with apathy.

>Oh, I just can't access <network resource I need to do my job>? Well I'll put in a ticket and poor a glass of Chardonnay then I guess.

Of course this means you have to be financially well off enough that you can go a year or so unemployed but if you do it right it's not so bad.
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>>109237645
Good luck anon, I find your dedication respectable
Hope you don't get a big head when you inevitably get hired
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>>109237630
That's pretty normal actually.
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>>109237579
I'm 31.
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>>109237722
everyone who got hired before covid is a legacy boomer
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>>109237472
>if you think labor glut/visa abuse i
There's no labor glut issue with visas. The problem is nepotism.

The more effective software engineers you have the more software integration work you get, the problem is that these Indians aren't effective engineers, they shit everything up and then only hire eachother. Eventually the company they infest implodes and they all roach to another one.
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>>109237743
>roach
don't compare them to jeets, that's insulting
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>>109237743
how do you think the indians got here dumbfuck
and even if it was 1 million poles and germans coming on work visas per year it would still ruin the job market for native americans
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>>109237786
>native americans
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>>109237786
Except we already collaborate with the Poles and Germans and, oh look at that, they actually contribute and we end up with more work and wealth instead of a crisis.
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underemployment is literally a death spiral. it's impossible to keep up with software unless you're working on it 8+ hours a day.
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>>109237850
in the short term millions of white immigrants would still crush the job market. its what happened in the 1910s and 1920s and what caused the massively restrictive 1923 immigration act to pass
it is however true that nonwhite immigrants permanently stunt the economy of the country simply by existing here
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>>109237890
>implying 'skills' are the root cause of unemployment
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>>109237892
Irish and Italians aren't white.
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>>109237812
I'd rather work with pullstarts than pushstarts
In fact, give the Native Americans back the name Indian, we're going to call the jeets Bharat
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>>109237812
those are simply "the natives" or "indigenous americans"
I'm not gonna call them indian because even for a hardened genocidal racist like me comparing the natives to indians is way too much
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>>109237438
>the new going rate
which is certainly less than it was
it's an employer's market and the anons in here saying (or rather lying about) how they get $400K yearly salaries are going to get fired if they're even remotely close to telling the truth, because the jeets cost less, and so do the tens of thousands of domestic engineers who are desperately searching for literally anything to stay afloat
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>>109237605
which is odd because all three of my most recent jobs (albeit the latest 3.5 years ago) were all from linkedin
I guess I'm just really lucky to have what I got before all of this AI shit happened
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>>109238082
it can take years to shake out overpaid workers but you best believe those 400k tc slots are going extinct sooner rather than later
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>>109237905
yes we are, fuck you hans
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someone bake pls
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>>109238348
nvm, I'll bake this time
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>>109237445
This is /twg/. Auto makers were never that skilled. Just a bunch of oem parts assembled to instructions.



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