>Vivaldi's latest update shows them deprecating Manifest V2 extensions as wellIt's over Chromium bros. What do we do now? Will Edge be the only one that will keep Manifest V2 on Chromium using Microsoft's funding or will they also give up? Will Google eventually strong arm Mozilla into dropping it on Firefox and its forks as well?
>>109233934edge is just so fucking slow, it lags the entire pc when opening, I will never use that thing willingly
>>109233934just switch to adguard mv3
>>109234015It's not just about adblocking. Apparently, userscript deploying extensions (whatever they're called, Tamper/Violent/Greasemonkey) are affected as well.Besides, uBlock Origin isn't just about adblocking either, you can use it to block and bypass all kinds of things.
>>109233934Use an older version of chrome or firefox>but muh problem!!!Shut the fuck up then and watch the ads, cuck
Of course Microsoft will yeet it from Edge too eventually. Have you learned nothing you fucking braindead NPCs. Do you really have ZERO pattern recognition?
>>109234330It's their best chance to give Edge an advantage over other forks (Copilot and other slop doesn't count). You're probably right though, there's no way Microslop would side with the consumers.
>>109233934time to use floorp and libreworlf. I'll keep vivaldi install for government websites or other dog shit that doesnt work.
Why is this thread even here? You were warned years ago. Retards deserve pain.
>>109234445I'm actually maining Firefox, I only keep Chromium browsers as backups. And it still surprised me how quickly they folded. There's no longer any use case for Chromium forks.
>>109234519chromium forks will probably be able to support mv2 until january 2028 because google's stated commitment to supporting enterprise mv2 chrome apps until then. enterprise chrome is the same codebase with a few feature toggles that the forks are enabling.not surprised vivaldi pozzed itself tho. vivaldi's blocker comes with whitelisted sponsored ads, they don't actually care, privacy is just a marketing term to them.
>>109233934>announces the end of MV2 support>has the fucking nerve to ebeg for donations in the same browser updateUninstalled. Go fuck yourselves.
>>109234295Updated, noticed it. You can still use them and TamperMonkey works on v3. Already switched to TM and uBO, I'm pleasantly surprised these were the only two affected.
>>109234641>TampermonkeyChanged from open to closed source and sends analytics by default. you can turn it off, just be wary of shenanigans with TM, I don't trust them.
>>109234694lmk when VM updates to use Mv3 hooks, then I'll gladly switch back
>>109233934Yeah, I like Vivaldi because it provided the featureset (if not the performance) of old Opera, but I had to switch to Firefox because of this. The internet is unbrowsable without ublock origin.I guess I'm glad Firefox still exists, but I wish there were other non-blink options.
>>109234776uBO Lite is surprisingly good on Vivaldi despite being less featureful desu, gorhill even managed to do manual per-element filtering on it
I think it's time for me to stop using the internet.
>>109234794Yeah but this still applies, even moreso now:https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
>>109234694>Changed from open to closed sourceyeah, 15 years ago
Mozilla is running ads in Firefox and has so much money it's sponsoring a Football Team now. Firefox will cuck ublock eventually and forks will be banned by cloudflare.
>>109233934Too bad, it was the only customizable chromium. Guess I'll have to switch back to firefox.>>109234015mv3 extensions might be "good enough" for adblocking, but I've been using uBO for all kinds of advanced features and with mv3 you have to wait for an extension update instead of using filter lists, like wtf?>>109234832i wish firefox had native gesture support, i don't want to install some shitty japanese fork just to be able to use gestures on browser pages.
>>109233934As long as opera isn't doing it, i don't care.
>>109234794it doesn't even have the uMatrix-like grid to selectively block/allow connections to 3p domains, how do you even use the internet without that?
>>109235252Give it a week at most. There's no way Opera will be the one Chromium browser to resist MV3.
>>109235261https://blogs.opera.com/news/2024/10/opera-support-manifest-v2-ad-blocking/
>>109235960We'll see how well that goes within the next few weeks probably. Don't get me wrong, I want them to support MV2, I'm just skeptical seeing how quickly everyone else dropped it.
>>109234694>turn it offLmao no you literally have to gut it to stop it from sending out data
Mv3 is a red herring as Firefox supports the old APIs on Mv3 just fine.
>>109233934Switched back to waterfox.>>109234776Sucks to have to get extra addons to replicate basic features, but the clock was ticking.>>109237314Yeah, Google's just doing it to fuck over adblockers.
Helium browser
>>109238294>ublock origin comes preinstalleddamn son, that's a flex
>>109233934Its too bad that the violent-money devs are too lazy to support Mv3.
>>109235252Gx?
>>109239521The main one. Forgot why i didn't use GX
>>109239589>Forgot why i didn't use GXit was probably too gamey for you, /g/entlemen are easily triggered by the thought of video games
>>109239606I play vidya every day, probably just didn't see the need to use any of the features provided.
I used vivaldi for twitch and some other streaming websites since FF didn't play well with them for some reason, but now userscripts are fucked and twitch bypassers got shot in the head. Opera still supports everything but it's sketchy and feels like active spyware. What's a good firefox fork? I recall one called librewolf being very security and privacy focused? Is that one good?
>>109239606>>109239649Biggest problem for me is that a large feature of it is that it FULLY integrates twitch without needing tabs for it, so you get notifications for your streamers on any tab and can watch it on any tab as an overlay, which is nice I guess but it makes it so any adblocking for twitch won't work and you're stuck with their VERY ugly ui.
>>109234591>chromium forks will probably be able to support mv2 until january 2028don't expect too much, brave stopped v2 support, so the violentmonkey i was using to run 4chanx suddenly stopped
>>109233934For now I re-enabled the extensions and disabled updates, but will probably switch to some kind of *fox.
I always have two browsers installed on my pc, one is a flavor of firefox, the other a flavor of chromium. Was using Vivaldi until yesterday but obviously I'm not gonna use it if they won't have competent adblock, thanks to whoever suggested Helium yesterday, it's actually all I needed.
>>109233934oh no who could have seen this comingnot me because I can't read
>>109239705>>109239589Browser for gay niggers
>>109241442Opera GayseX
>>109239997helium won't maintain mv2 on it's own either, maybe someone can include the built-in ublock from that shilled crypto browser into something decent
>>109233934Just move to whatever browser you prefer and have grok refactor your addon code to whatever base it uses??When brave dropped ManifestV2 I just had grok port my shit to v3 or make analogues from scratch. works way better anyway.
>>109240636oh look a faggot
>>109244428>vibecoding furfag on bravenot surprised in the slightest
>>109233934I want to switch to Firefox but I haven't found a way to replicate the speed dial
Just re-add the code? Copy paste. Voila
>>109247332There are a billion speed dial addons, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/groupspeeddial/ is my favorite but I advise experimenting with them allBut to be fair, Vivaldi's speed dial really is amazing and I've yet to find someone as good as it
>>109233934Why do people dox themselves like this
>>109248721>Why do people dox themselves like thisHuh?
>>109233934>>109217000>>109217000
>>109233934>It's over Chromium brosI don't give a shiieeeet, everything I need is working on Chromium
>>109244428I doubt it works better. I have an extension that I ported to V3 and all the manifest change really does it heap a bunch more restrictions onto what you want it to do. It brings no benefits to the end user.Reduced access to web content, short-lived workers with no persistence, greater lockdown on dynamic code.Ostensibly it forces extensions to behave better, but in practice it wipes out a bunch of capabilities you actually want your extensions to be able to have.
>>109234641mv3 userscripts api for userscripts is only as usable as mv3 is for adblocking: if you're an abject retard you wouldn't know the difference.
FireChads win again.
>>109234776You can still re-enable it on vivaldi, not sure for how long.
>>109249114And If you are not an abject retard you will know only GM.webRequest is missing from mv3 userscripts.Not even supporting mv3, I'd rather still have mv2 on chromium and xul/xpcom on firefox (or a proper alternative)
>>109233934>noOOoooooOOOooo my deprecated api!!!!
>>109233934This is how you lose your 0.001% market share Vivaldi.
so is adguard mv3 just a better version of uBOL?
>>109251363>>109239957>>109233934Vivaldi warns you that its no longer supported but it will never disable support and you can always re-enable. CEO said this a long time ago.
All browsers disable it by default for "security". You can bypass it but you are giving up security. It's like running Thorium browser yeah its the fastest browser but its also outdated and full of security holes.
>>109256457they might remove it at some point, also mv2 support without a mv2 extensions "store" is less than ideal and they already said they don't have resources to maintain one.I'm thinking on going to a ff fork once they drop support but I've to see if it's still possible to inject an userchrome.js (js not css) on ff.
>>109256545I doubt any browser even if one should emerge to actually support MV2 long term will have a MV2 extension store. Besides "compiling" an extension from source is laughably easy in any chrom* based browser. Literally just enable dev mode and select source dir. What really sucks is that its not unlikely that all browsers will eventually give up on MV2 legacy support.
>>109256568And there's already a release page on github to donwload precompiled stuff, but that's not the point, I doubt any browser will maintain mv2 just for people that know how to install extensions from outside the store.And vivaldi team is making pretty clear they won't support it forever.
>>109233934>Will Edge be the only one that will keep Manifest V2Most likely yes because Microsoft wants to give a fat middle finger to Google and has the resources to fork chromium themselves to maintain it. >>109234008Literally have never experienced this at all. Have you tried not being poor?
>>109234008wtf r u talking about lol. we use edge at work on pretty old thinkpads, no problems whatsoever
109256723 (no you)>shitjeet rape rat comes out of the woodwork to write a microshart fanficin reality microsoft will just follow upstream because its cheaper, requires less dev time, and the users of edge (old people and shitjeets) wont notice/care
>>109234295it's literally the only 2 mandatory extensionsfuck this gay world
>>109257758>using gay as an insult in 2038
>>109256545>I've to see if it's still possible to inject an userchrome.js (js not css) on ff.I've seen anons mention working with it in the past so I assume that it is possible, but I don't really have a use case for it, unlike .css where I've made some really useful changes such as disabling the close (x) button on tabs to prevent misclicks and adding scrollbars to all bookmark folders.
