Even libertarians are becoming insanely anti-AI. Why is everyone turning against this objectively beneficial tech?
>>109234153>ai good crowd>heres what I can do about it pros and cons >ai bad crowd>omg what can we do im so gay wahh vote harder waahhh this is Satanic and misogyny and im so gay waaaah
>>109234170>>109234153The antiAI trannies are simply retarded, don't try to talk or explain AI to them, they simply don't care.Just like simple economics or biology, they don't care or don't want to see the truth.
>>109234153I just did 2 weeks of work in 2 hours.AI is so good if it would have a dick I would suck it all day.
>>109234221so you basically do more work than needed.how is this a win? is your boss giving you good boi points?
>>109234153I think calling matrix algebra "Artificial Intelligence" is frankly retarded.
>>109234251I am one of those crazy people who enjoys creating value even for free. My job is my hobby.
>>109234153the algorithm rewards anti-AI sentimentthese content creators pay their bills by riding the algorithmthat's really all there is to it
>>109234266you are the kind of people who are making it miserable for the others and I bet nobody likes you at your job.
>>109234221>>>>>>>>>>>>>workLol
>>109234251Increased productivity benefits everyone in society.
>>109234257I think reductionism as a form of ridicule is retarded.
Because it made their entertainment systems expensive and now for the first time in years these guys gave a fuck about something.If it didn't have the effect in prices, no one would give a shit.
>>109234288how?
>>109234269ragebait rewards pro-AI pro-corpo sentimentshitposters get their elonbux by riding the algorithmthat's really all there is to it
>>109234221Your slop won't even be refactored, just thrown out and rewritten with full human oversight and in good part by hand (it's often faster than giving hyper specific prompts, though not always).
>its an explanation that works and is excellent>but we dont have permission to go there
>>109234170>>ai good crowd>>heres what I can do about it pros and cons nah many of these fucks are on the deep end and think there are no cons.
>>109234153I don't know and I don't care.
>>109234221>I just did 2 weeks of work in 2 hours.more like unmaintainable and unusable slop>if it would have a dick I would suck it all day.the only real part of this post.
>>109234221that means you can take 2 weeks off, right?no?then you did 2 hours of work in 2 hours.
>>109234266You're the best cotton picker on the plantation.You is a guud boyMassa gon' gib you something from his table and he might make you a house nigger!GUUD JOBYou don't get anything for doing more. It's a fantasy. You get more responsibility and more work. But since you're so busy and apparently so good at training your AI replacement you'll be getting a pinkslip soon.
it's not beneficial when it does much more harm than good
>>109234153I still haven't met anyone personally who has developed AI psychosis or thinks it is anything other than a dumb computer program and everyone at my work is using it every day now. It is a super useful tool for software development. But like, if you're wielding it properly it's all about creating lots of planning documents to keep it on track and split up work into bite sized pieces, never letting a context window fill up, and certainly never arguing with it when it starts being wrong. Just close that context and start fresh.As for the infinite slop content on the internet, that was already happening before LLMs completely human-generated. AI just made the creation of such content a lot more accessible to more people for lower effort. AI didn't cause the problem it just exacerbates an existing issue. Same goes for things like declining literacy rates, etc. Don't blame the tool, there are deeper societal issues at play.
>>109234633Anon, you haven't recognized people suffering form AI psychosis and socialmedia algorythm induced madness because you're suffering from it yourself. And it's so normalized that you don't even recognize it happening around you. It's worse then you can possibly imagine...but that's not hard considering you've offloaded your thinking and imagination to manipulative sycophantic chatbots .
>>109234651this. i know people who used to write ok code now produce non stop slop now and can't see what's wrong.This is some form of demonic mental corruption via warp.
>>109234153>Why is everyone turning against this objectively beneficial tech?Because it is objectively harmful.
>>109234749but anon it's not objectively harmfulit's objectively Jewish
>>109234251I just tell the AI to do the work and then I sick back and watch a movie while it's working
>>109234170Post nose
>>109234602>>109234583>>109234569Seethe!
Of course anyone who cares about freedom would be against AI, it's the most powerful tool of the total all-encompassing surveillance state.The KGB and the Stasi tried their hardest but you simply cannot keep an eye on everyone at all times because you do not have enough people to do it. AI solves that.
>>109234221Proof ai dudes are gay asf
>>109234186the truth is that AI is merely a surveillance dragnet that offers what every other surveillance dragnet offers —convenience. the tradeoff is mass surveillance.
>>109234538Off topic but women’s leagues were actually set up because they were too good and embarrassed the men. That’s what happened with baseball.
>>109235595You could say the same about cellphones and internet. Your point?
AI is just another tool in the war between creatives and executives. Business minded people hate how creatives can't quantify exactly what production cost and product value is. Creative people hate how business people reduce art and talent down to a number on a spreadsheet.AI is the executives trying to replace creatives with a measurable output value. CEOs everywhere think they can use AI to build the next product and cut the creatives out because they see no difference between AI slop and talented output.Actually talented people see that AI can shovel slop for the bean counters so they can do more of the creative stuff they want to do. Untalented creatives see they can't compete with the literal average output of everything that AI produces and thinks AI will take over everything.You're either above average and will always have a spot in the job market or you're below average and will lose your job to AI.
>>109234153>beneficial to who"who benefits?"even an idiot can see this is only being forced to benefit those at the top and destroying those they consider beneath them
>>109234538Can on the bottom left.
>>109234153>beneficialIf it's anti human then it's not beneficial. Machines are human tools. They are pushing AI to replace the human part. A software should be launched when you want and do the task the user asks. That's not the case with AI. It will spy on me and do what it wants to do.
>>109234266>>109234288Nobody needs your 1034583th online banking web app / online shop / productivity web app. You are not productive and you do not add value to anything.
>>109234153Because it cannot generate more than a dollar.
>>109234153It doesn't really matter. Now that they're starting to use it to control drones in Ukraine with no human in the loop we're all fucked whether we get a chatbot that agrees with everything we say or not. It's over. Within the next 20 years there's going to be a war that causes areas to be impassable because of rogue automated drones. It's going to be like landmines after WWII
>>109234170and this is you >mmm corpo cum so good mmm Mr. Altman, in my mouth one moar time, mmm oh ah, gulp-gulp-gulp, oh yea, Mr Leather jacket man is next, omfg just look at those stonksAnd here's the ai bad crowd>Nobody asked for this >Why are RAM prices so high>Why is my electricity being redirected >Why is Alex using AI on drones to kill people
>>109237292You forgot "why am I being forced to pay for a chatbot that shits up the entire internet with my tax money?"
>>109237546The spying, the job replacement, the enshittification of established software stacks, being forced down everyone's throats in a desperate effort for public acceptance etc. and so forth. The list is quite extensive but I don't keep track of every valid argument.
>>109234153>today even the stupidest people learned to hate the antichrist machine of globohomo>/g shitters without real skills still suck the corpocockthis board just shills and the shizo retards at this point and I loathe to visit it
>>109237292>Why are RAM prices so highBecause the RAM manufacturers announced that they were cutting production at the beginning of 2025 because they said that they didn't want to get stuck with unsold stock. Then by the end of the year there was a shortage and they were selling stock at 600% of its previous value.
>>109234153The whole premise of the technology is to make everyone unemployable. Also what benefits did it produce outside of making someone’s craft and skills worthless? So far we got 1 FDA approved drug after more then 4 years of Alphafold and other technologies because as it turns out human scientists figuring out potential candidates was not the bottleneck.
>>109234153Mollymeme isn’t against AI tho?
>>109236054AI is a nuke that will end the creatives and the market the executives depend on. Which is good.
>>109234153Liquid Zulu defends it
I didn't care until the RAM shortage.Don't mess with gamers.
>>109234153havent watched that but i doubt stef is "anti AI" he probably just thinks the impact is overhyped rn
>>109238213The biggest games can run on 10 year old hardware and 16gigs. The ram shortage will harm the AAA and hardware sellers. The moment they can't get their ram and the games are shit that NEEDS 2k worth of hardware to run poorly then the entire market will collapse. Sorry it IS collapsing.
>>109234153Because it exposes fraud.
>>109234583No it means he can watch movies or play video games or work on a personal project or read books or do whatever he wants during that time (assuming WFH)
>>109237105>Nobody needs your 1034583th online banking web appOur "app" costs 5000 dollars for one user and we have hundreds of users. Seethe!
>>109234257so using only linear algebra gets you the perceptron, which is roughly 50s technologylinear algebra alone can't even implement something as simple as an XOR gatean absolutely critical element of modern machine learning are non-linear elements between the linear oneswithout those, any chain of linear transformations can be composed into a single linear transformation, and you're back at the perceptront. anti-ai snailcat
>>109234153AI is great. Being forced to use AI is not
>>109237153>because of rogue automated dronesthat would imply each drone is going to have a GPU attached to it, which would be costly asf compared to what we do now.
>>109234153the only "defense" of AI you can see here are nonsense statements like "I got sooo much done in such a short time so AI is good" without any way of knowing what they did, what their field is, what their goals were, or anything like that. The truth is AI is very good at enabling people who make the world a worse place. And sometimes you get people who admit that, happily saying their life has gotten better thans to AI helping them making other people's lives worse. So in that sense AI is good just like a virus is good if you ask a misanthrope.
>>109234153AI is something that is forced upon most people, it's not something you can ignore, it's the elephant in the room. You can't opt out of the zeitgeist.This is the space where most anti-AI takes come from. They don't care, they have no interest in it, and so they make these lazy takes on the elephant in the room.
>>109238526>happily saying their life has gotten better thans to AI helping them making other people's lives worseHow's that different than lazy and incompetent workers leeching off of productive people?
>even muh lolbertsSuch a bastardized word and pointless posturing. No one agrees on what a "libertarian" is, not even libertarians themselves, same as the endless bickering over left vs. right. All talk, all bread and circus for the goy cattle.Meanwhile State's monopoly on force and surveillance loves its libertarian friends, like picrel.
>>109238578if they are workers then by definition they are productive.
>>109234153No one would be against AI if, just as the Industrial Revolution did, everything suddenly started getting cheaper and global production of goods skyrocketed, with entire countries rising out of poverty and becoming major powers.But what's actually changing? I see everything getting more and more expensive, especially computer stuff. At the same time, services and products all seem to be getting worse. I can't even visit my favorite hentai site anymore without seeing a flood of repetitive trash "created" by people with no taste or creativity.The impression people have is that AI is just screwing everything up, and at the same time, everything is getting more expensive. It's the opposite of what a technological revolution is supposed to do
>>109234153>even libertarianswho?
I doubt anyone hates “AI the tech”, we mostly hate the fake hype around the industry and how its forced on us everywhere.Looking at the pattern a third AI winter is inevitable and after all the trillions in investment and degrading people’s life all they could show for it is a bunch of hallucinating chatbots, that can neither cure illness as they implied nor come up with NEW and WORKING solutions, that will all be raped by local llms long after the whole industry collapses and all hardware prices readjust -i hope- and will look back on this era and how fake and astroturfed everything was
>>109234153It makes life boring when used for creative endeavours, flooding the populace with never before seen amounts of slop. Normies can't even handle the normal internet as we've seen over the last decade getting their feeble brains fried and destroying what is was and what it was supposed to be.
>>109238648It was an online movement that popped up in the late 2000s in response to TARP bailouts following the housing crisis, government online mass surveillance, and the government lying about the Iraq war. And then everyone forgot and the Overton window shifted, so claiming they're not in support of AI is a vacuous truth.
tech is not evil, we just have a ruler class of mostly old people that have been in power for 4-50 years no that have no idea of what they are doing or as just evilbasically great tech, evil people using it, that's it really, if we need to stop for now, and/or slow the fuck down so we can fix that, so be it, and it suck because I want to see space travel wild west on my lifetime, but its not going to happen if we really become basically enslaved by these old people and oligarchy via digital ID and the like, humanity will most likely come to a standby for decades if not more
>>109238771who the fuck are you guys talking about? am I supposed to know some random eceleb?
>>109234170The AI good crowd is a bunch of untreated schizophrenics talking about how AI will unemploy all humanity, destroy the world, is definitely conscious, and somehow all of this is the best possible thing that could happen.There's also a huge crowd who thinks asking a shatbot is a 1 to 1 replacement for all forms of thinking and no one should ever waste time thinking about anything ever again.
>>109234170>heres what I can do about it pros and conscan you list some of these pros and cons and why the pros outweigh the cons?
>>109238585That's why I added the lazy and incompetent qualifiers. People aren't entitled to six-figure salaries just for warming seats.
>>109238796normies are already talking to AI and about AI as if it's their personal IRL friend/girlfriend. They're cooked
>>109234153if it was objectively beneficial, everyone wouldn't be turning against it.
>>109238811Science says no
Crying and seething about AI is such a dead giveaway that someone is a morbidly online person with no unique opinions of their own, just a repeater brain. If someone IRL ever starts bitching about AI unprompted, there's a 95% chance they retarded and have no idea wtf they're talking about
>>109238231The market collapsing is a good thing.All the money in gaming attracted the worst people to have ever walked the earth and it's good that they're going under. Gaming will be much better once the get rich quick schemers go under.
>>109238811I believe corporations coopting it and fear mongering the public with it had more to do with it than the tech itself
>>109234153It's iPhone predictive text hooked up to the Internet. AIbubble burst when?
>>109234153Beneficial for who?
how is your machinae, is ai proactive at event or noevent? some might not want it
>>109238802Let me act like an AI for a bit... here's an interesting factoid for you: you don't get to decide what people are entitled to!
>>109238788he just explained it to you, you goofy nigger
>>109238800ok this is my opinion not my recon representation of some electorate poll of AI opinion basedencePros>the best interface/info retrieval known to man really a Gutenberg press moment for humanity vs learning>however this too plateaus>every hot anime girl and programming lesson you could ask for daily and if prompting thats too much work an Anon is doing it for you and DELIVERINGCons>no not cons cells youre being conned for RAM scams literally and being jewed so hard out of an economy with the greatest mass plagiarism ever done in history with the worst rigging ever done to the economy>by being trained on genius an entire generation's ability to capitalize on their genius is being decapitated from leadership in the market in ways Poland and China could not have had their intellectuals butchered systematically as this "peaceful" culling of all goy intelligentsias.
>>109238213gaming and gamers: the raped
>>109234153ai is bad, because it's so good and so cheapi just set up a phone audit pipeline for a client that takes their day's calls and produces a report for managers the next morning. it's something that they always wanted to do, but no one had time to listen to phone calls... this thing will analyze over 100 calls in <5 minutes, for <$0.50 ... that is insane value
>>109238521They're already doing it. Their goal is no human operator, no connection to a control center that can be jammed. Those are the failure points in kill drones that they're trying to eliminate. Give it some time and they'll be ubiquitous
>>109234288>Increased productivity benefits everyone in society.In a economical sense is could help, but it doesn't need to and doesn't help all the time.But the most important part faggots like you forget is that life is more than some gadgets and new toys to play with.There are more fundamental things than economy that is better for man.
>>109238811>>109238821Ad populum is about observable truths.How a people should be governed or social life/functions should involve those that will feel it the most.
>>109234153cope snailoid, we vibeGODS won.>pic related, this is you
>>109234221>I just did 2 weeks of work in 2 hours.>using AI for worktry saying this again a year later, when all workers are replaced by AI
>>109238796Not sure what kind of retards you talk to. Most people just think it's a tool. Only people consooming AI/anti-AI marketing 24/7 online have a strong opinion either way
>>109239761I wouldn't want low IQ violent people to determine what society should be like.
>>109234170unironically trvke dropped
>>109234153>objectively beneficial techDo not redeem, saar
>>109238614The Industrial Revolution upended tons of stuff. Where do you think the term “Luddite” even comes from? Factories making mass produced stuff meant skilled craftsmen were out of a job in a lot of cases.
>>109234153I love the tech, but for the average person where is the use?It automates some tedious office asks, but you still have to look it over and change it. Same with coding if you don't want low quality or wish to forfeit any creative control.Outside of that there's just porn, and funny shit to do with it.I'd hardly call any of it 'life changing'. Maybe in 10+ years, but not now.
>>109234170The things they're doing with it are not applicable to the majority, or not wanted by the majority.So you set up an agent to automate shit for you on your computer that you already don't mind doing yourself. Where's the need in that? Where's the 'revolutionary technology' of that?Get out of the AI headspace and ask normal people. They are either clueless or have no need for it.
>>109240106The use case is that they ruined the internet using LLMs so now they can sell you the "solution" to the problem they're literally responsible for
>>109239184I dont care about your commie ideology
>>109240111fuck you normie go watch sportsball with your goyim and have your tumblr HR bitch whine you some CRUD sign in check boxes while you punch into McDonalds in the latest most bureaucratic way your masters chose for you. Some of us like thinking and talking to the smart chatbot that is the internet knowing itself you absolute debbie downer down syndrome shit eating cockroach
>>109237292hey man clown world has its perksI got the swipe app hoesmy one favorite "healthy probiotic" sodacorpo cum is actually worth it this time, chudbros the jews did something objectively super awesome here and yes their victory lap hurts my cheeks
>>109234153because it will replace their grifting asses
>>109238251so farmers after all that productivity boom due to more advanced farming equipment must be working for like 5 minutes per day.
>>109240142Rightwing libertarianism is the strongest shield and resistance against communism. It was so powerful and such a threat to the system that Molly (OP) got deplatformed on every mainstream site.
>>109234153I find it funny how there are so many "truths" about everything out there. Everyone has their opinion to voice, sometimes about things that does not concern or impact their lives in any way. Quite tiresome, to be honest.
>>109234153for me, i like to use ai for my little projects and also to pose random questions to. i find it quite useful, provided you understand what it actually is vs what its advertised to be. some nerd wrote that if you think ai is awesome you'll get dunked on, if you think ai is shit, you'll get good performance out of it. im old so i don't have to deal with it destroying the world or whatever, i'm already on my way out! anyway, i still haven't defoo'd or whatever. well, cya!
>>109240511How the fuck did Lberbtarian become a "right wing" ideology? Didn't the left wing used to also champion personal freedom? Wasn't that the basis for the whole liberalism movement? Did the left turn its back on liberalism and instead switch to communism?
>>109240570The left is too centered around pitting groups against each other based on wealth, race, religion, gender and any victim categories they can find and they like to try and use the government to engineer their own chess board and come up with new rules that breaks the game. That's antithetical to any freedom ideology that looks to protect and empower the individual.
>>109234266You're not crazy. You're just a dumb faggot with no life.
>>109240570Leftism caters to the lowest common denominator.
lmao this faggot's still alive?how are the support groups these days for his former cultists?btw kids, this thread is an ad for this faggot's cult.don't give him any money.
>>109240570>how did the ideology of paying 0 taxes and doing as little as possible to help other people while fortifying yourself in your suburb house full of guns because you're scared of immigrants become right wing?
>>109240570libertarianism is the complete antithesis of the left
>>109234153>beneficial>post 2010 techChoose one. Either you side with the machines or humanity. If you side with the machines you'll be replaced and tossed at the margin of society.>but it would fuck up society and economy of course they wouldn't do thatKek, they just did, faggot. If AI froze the way it is NOW, humanity could even have a remote chance of controlling the situation.
>>109234153Only NRxers are pro-AI these days
>>109234221>I just did 2 weeks of work in 2 hours.And all it cost to do is 2 months of pay.>Uhhh sweetie AI isn't expensiveNot for you. Yet.https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/execs-confused-horrified-huge-ai-135718505.html?guccounter=2
>>109234288Productivity isn't increasing, retard. The amount of resources required to do AI shit is an order of magnitudes greater than without AI. Productivity is going backwards.
>>109234153Pretty fucking rich for a libertarian to complain about copyright infringement. How fucking gay.
>>109235834>what every other surveillance dragnet offers I already did you fucking moron
>>109240085>bot addresses the surface of a comment without any substantial engagement with what was actually said garbage technology producing garbage slop and garbage slop thinkers is exactly why its hated
The only people who like aislop are the people making money running the companies, the chip manufacturers, aijeets, and the evangelist cunts spamming this site to death.>>109238584Libertarianism is a pretty cut and dry ideology, anon. Blame nu/pol/ (stormtards, trumpentourists, their current incarnation merging conflicting nunazi and neocon ideologies together) and the feds that put that retard in his underwear on stage 10 years ago for muddying the waters with their insufferable stupidity. There was a time this place valued freedom, rather than licking boots and sucking cock.>>109240570That's part of the water muddying. Look up the actual definition of liberalism and it's not what murricans and fox news cuckservatives call the democrat party.
>>109234153>objectively beneficiallmfao>>109234170>here's what I can do about it...Total non sequitur.>>109234186>antiAI>tranniesChoose one. Despite that one screenshot you retards keep posting, every AI project is helmed by tranners, jeets, and Jews.>>109234221>AI did 2 weeks of my work in 2 hoursWhy advertise your own crippling incompetence?>>109234269>the algorithm rewards anti-AI sentimentComplete inversion of the truth. How delusional of you.
>>109244462liberalism comes from the notion of liberty, free individuals rights. thats the foundation of western society was built upon. free rational individuals making their own decisions, in equal society, and doing free trade with each other inorder to pursue life, liberty and pursuit of happinessgovernment censorship, government banning, etc was never part of liberal ideology. liberalism came from enlightened era where people got tired of kings/government
>>109234153it is beneficial in good hands not in goof hands, like giving weapons to a monkey
>>109234170>exposing pedosatanists is gay
>>109244796transistors are jewish anon(((lisp)))(((GOFAI)))(((AI)))(((INTEL)))ackshually I use HitlerOS running on a hyperborea hard drive and Agartha accelerator running all my .chud files
>>109243747Ok, so. Wanna a gift or something?
>>109234153Libertarians only think about money, so they see money to be made in catering to anti-AI luddites. Molyneux is a known grifter and wannabe cult leader
>>109235595Why trannies hate AI?
>>109245428>>109245437Kek faggots folding their girly arms and responding scornfully
>>109245374>transistors are jewishthat's what you get for buying intel, goyim
>>109245436They think about freedom too. Most things in this world revolve around money but no one obsesses as much over money as leftists with muh class warfare larp
It's the grift that's inNormalfag NPCs bought the lie that datacenters are using all le water AI = le bad for environmentAlso the chip shortages are all AI's fault somehow, don't ask questionsInfluencer fags see this and cater to the NPC by amplifying the lies because every view and every click is another cent in their bank accountIt's all so gay and retarded makes me wish AI actually was killing all human life, fingers crossed
>>109245853>Having your city council members approve steinberg building a hyperscaler bigger than a football field near a town in the bumfuck of nowhere emitting noise 24/7 while being operated by 200 south Asian faggots is a good idea actually
>>109245889>living in bumfuck of nowhere with scarce water in the first placeyou did this to yourself. Skill issue nigga
>>109245889get fucked, boomers
>>109234153Molyneux is just angry that people are sending money to these companies instead of giving it to him
>>109245458Ok, ma'am
>>109234153Its time to deFOO from luddites
>>109234153There is no reason why he should've been shut down here on 4Chan I think Gamergate shouldn't have won
>>109234153>Even libertarians are becoming insanely anti-AI.Private credit and the federal reserve are propping up AI companies (which are not profitable)it's natural for libertarians to be adversarial with anyone who damages the price discovery mechanism
>>109234153>objectively beneficial
>>109240118This is something strange I've noticed. Now I'm not saying there aren't bots that post to 4chan. But for the most part when looking at all tbe otber social media websites. They all have a vast amount of very obvious LLM bots piping their outputs straight to the websites. But for 4chan I honestly never see it.
>>109240570Dems have started to pander to the more lefty types whereas the ones you'd assume to be actually believers in liberalism have become more corporate stooges.
It's good when I use it and it's bad when it's used against me. It's 99% used against me.
>>109234153youtube also recommended that video to me and I ignored it
