Found out about it few weeks ago and i can't stop thinking about it, Ken Thompson said its the best operating system they created and fixed alot of design choices in UNIX, but it kinda hard to find any good resources on it, so what does /g/ think of it and does it still hold up in today's world?
>>109238320>Ken Thompson said its the best operating system>hard to find any good resources on it
>>109238409yeah all i found is a bunch of redditors treating it like their precious little secret and all of them give many vague answers when asked about the nature of the OS.also the video of Ken talking about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoYUZtZl02g
>>109238320When even the creator(s) of an operating system abandon it, it must be shit.
>>109238320It's an OS from when graphical terminals were hot new shit. Cool as the ideas are in plan9, the actual experience of using it is paleolithic compared to what you're used to because it's missing over 30 years of userspace developments & software, and many of its own cool ideas got integrated in some form or another into modern OSs. If you're being filtered by it, I'd suggest starting with a BSD since the experience of using plan9 is like a most extreme version of using a BSD after living in linux land.
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>>109238320You can find Thompson's interview, don't remember where, maybe it was via Anvil text editor's pages (Anvil is Acme copy).Anyhow for work Thompson used Windows NT with remote desktop to his Plan 9 desktop. For Word/Excel/Internet browser he used NT, for development work and email he used Plan 9.
>>109240444I was talking about Ritchie and not Thompson.cat-v.org seems to be down but>https://web.archive.org/web/20240324110811/http://genius.cat-v.org/dennis-ritchie/Here is the interview:>https://web.archive.org/web/20240418110647/http://genius.cat-v.org/dennis-ritchie/interviews/drichie
>>109238462>video of Ken talking about itthis is about past war, he doesnt care about OSes. their battle was C/C++, where C++ appeared as a result of Bjarne thinkering about time-sharing OS that is kinda what he talks about, it is what probably proved their thesis that it can be implemented without C++ complication. but "it is over" and "never make it" into mainstream, he says it there
>>109238320> but it kinda hard to find any good resources on itPlan 9 is not for you then
>>109240646also Golang may be the result of that deliberate caging, though it didnt create a new approach - it is still a threading model, while web resulted in a new approach and a process model
>>109239236cuck license
>>109238409>>109238320Just read nemo's book? I think it's even included in the bell labs distro in either troff or pdf format.
>>109240829Holy shit you have no idea how fucked the license situation for that was. Everyone is pretty happy it's at least legal to distribute now.Remember bell labs was passed around like a whore between a bunch of big public companies that don't care or even know about Plan9.
>>109239236It would be good if you could replace Rio with cwm from OpenBSD (which is supposedly heavily inspired by Rio.)
>>109238320>hard to find any good resources on it,https://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.1.4
>>109240879You're replying to a bot that automatically spams that image anytime someone makes a post that contains BSD related keywords.
>>109238320they tell its in between unix system 5 educational (250$ in year 1993ish) and openindiana
>>109240870>Just read nemo's book?i was doubting the quote, i watched that interview previously. the answer i found is >>109240646the experiment was to validate the thesis and feasibility of simple language> it helps to use the same system that everyone around you is using. In my group at MIT, that meant FreeBSD and C++. I ran Plan 9 for the first few years I was at MIT but gave up, because the lack of a shared system made it too hard to collaborate. When I switched to FreeBSD..> ..for me it was simpler. I used Plan 9 as my local operating system for a year or so after joining Google, but it was just too inconvenient to live on a machine without a C++ compiler, without good NFS and SSH support, and especially without a web browser.for some stupid reason they all mention C++ as a "successor", but the real power that had overcome the project was the web tech. even Bjarne is a believer of runtimes, so.. good runtime has to be built with C, imo, hehehe.
>>109241053Read the Nemo's book
>>109238320>hard to find any good resources on ithttps://9front.org/https://swtch.com/https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/
