>Always based on latest Firefox ESR>All of the good shit from Firefox>None of the obnoxious telemetry or redesign shit from Mozilla>No useless AI shovelware "features">No VPN promo shit, "experiments", or "recommended" extensions>Built-in preferences for those who want an even more toned down UI>Built-in ad-blocking on par with Brave's engine (which is 99.9% compatible with uBlock Origin), but completely optional for those want straight up uBO>Can still use encrypted media like widevine if you want, for stuff like Netflix and Hulu>Completely fleshed out vertical tab systemWaterfox has come a long way, and now it officially mogs the shit out of Librewolf, IceCat, Floorp, Zen, Vivaldi, UG Chromium, and Brave (and utter trash that shouldn't even be mentioned, like Edge and Opera).>inb4 horrifically outdated neocities shitteryKontos took full control a few years ago and steadily made this the perfect browser.https://www.waterfox.com/releases/
imagine using a browser shipped by some rando to do your banking
>>109240677Primary developer is a skilled SWE and there have been thousands of contributors to the browser: https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox/graphs/contributors
>>109240611If anyone cares about privacy then fingerprinting is a real issue. Using something like waterfox is a bad idea. You should instead use firefox and couple it with a user.js file, this will make you less unique since there are definitely more firefox users out there than waterfox users.If chrome was passable for daily use and had something similar to user.js it'd be even better in that regard. But chrome keeps shitting the bed more and more with each update and google has put chromium into a shittification fasttrack so it's unusable.
>>109240611>based on firefox(gecko)>based on chrome(chromium)not a real choice
>>109240797It doesn't seem like you know what having a choice means. Choosing one of two options is still making a choice. You can choose to use gecko. You can choose to use blink. You can choose to use webkit or presto too.
>>109240790This is an idiotic argument, and you can easily masquerade as vanilla Firefox.
>>109240611>Waterfox Is By Far The Best Browser NowIt's not Opera 12 with presto engine, however.
>>109240860this is indeed the best browser, even today
>>109240611Still using Waterfox since 2017 when they changed the UI and I didn't like it.Still Just Werks for normies (something that Librewolf is incapable of due to it breaking websites)Still no AI BS or other shit Firefox bundles nowadays which I am only aware of due to seeing people posting about it here on 4chan lmao>>109240677Lmao I use it for banking and crypto without issues, unironically.Last time I reset my profile was 2022 by the looks of things, truly Just Werks (tm)
I hated Firefox' performance with yt or videos in general comparing it to chrome based browsers. Is it good now?
>>109240611used to use waterfox before dev sold it now ownership changed again - I returned to it on androidon desktop I prefer helium
>>109240611SnowFox would have been a cuter and cooler name. either way, Helium is better
>>109240790Who cares? The days of interesting online browsing are quickly passing us by as governments keep passing more and more invasive legislation such as age verification at the OS level, and ID required to access the internet, etc. The internet is becoming something you only use to do work, and in that spirit, you want a browser that gets the hell out of your way and lets you do work.
>>109242140If you don't know how to use a computer and access the web without age verification then you're in the wrong board.
>>109242163Retard. You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from now. The internet you're referring to won't even exist.
>>109242175>You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from nownot if you have a two digit iq you won't
>>109242217It won't exist. You'll be using an underground alternative, but it won't be the same
>>109241963>ownership changed againBack to the original primary developer. He blahg'd about it a bunch:https://www.waterfox.com/blog/15-years-of-forking/https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future/
>>109240611i would try it except the brave blockchain or whatever storing all my bookmarks and pw and preferences and stuff makes me unlikely to leave it. its just too easy to setup a new install and plugin the key words and its good to go. i don't like the ai shovelware, tempting
until you use r3dfox. lot's of good shit. way better than waterfox
>>109240611So this is the low level advertising campaign then. Mentions about 'waterfox' has been here and there on /g/. Just use librewolf, it's not owned by some corporation.
>>109242418Unlike Librewolf, Waterfox is led by a competent developer. It's not owned by "some corporation" either. It's owned by the person who founded the project (See: https://www.waterfox.com/docs/policies/company-information/).
Just buy a fucking ad and stop doing this shill bullshit.
at some point years ago waterfox started running like shit and breaking every site so i just installed standard firefox and it just werks ever since.
>>109242418Been using it since it looked like thisBack then /g/ had never heard of it
>>109242766OP here. Why would I buy an ad? I'm a pleasantly surprised Firefox (on some distros) & IceCat (on other distros) user who tried Waterfox again recently and found it to be far more usable OOTB than both. Plenty of browser threads on the board every week.>>109243045The years when it was operated by a shitty marketing company were obviously bad, and that's when I last tried it too. The OG developer regained control of the project 3 years ago, and I've been checking the changelogs on and off ever since. Finally gave it a go again last week under Debian, then Fedora, then Android. Sticking with it on most of my machines so long as the direction remains the same.
>>109240860Jesus, this takes me back. Switching to Chromium was a mistake.
>>109240611So instead of making vague claims and selling me on things LibreWolf already does, what are some actually tangible reasons for why I should switch?
>>109244062>vagueNothing vague about the post at all. Word of the day in your ESL class?
>>109240677banking? what are you a boomer?
>>109241837>m-m-MUH PERFORMANCEliterally the most negligible thing I have ever seen
>>109240611Is it actually maintained now? I used to use it around 2018 and it was always lagging behind regular firefox quite significantly.
>>109240677jeets need to update their script this is done on your phone now
>>109244237Quite active.
>>109244198Will you address the question, retard?
>>109240611I don't know if i should use Waterfox or HeliumJust came out of Firefox because it was leaking ram like crazy and Helium is being pretty cool
>>109242262dont be silly nobody can cockblock me the id verification is for these useless american gay websites like plebbit, x(videos).com and alike like do you morons not understand how the internet works? dont you have your own site?
>>109244230If you're blind it's ok, but videos freezing, frames dropping, having to reload etc. on modern PCs ain't normal.
>>109240785Nice graph you got there.
>>109241837How can you be functional enough to live and breathe and still be so dangerously retarded that you don't see the most obvious thing in the world? Google is fucking gimping Youtube for Firefox users because they are the last ones with a decent adblock. I even use Firefox on my phone and I have to refresh the site like 5 times and restart the browser for it to start playing the video. While every other site with videos plays instantly with that same internet connection. It's probably even possible to get better performance out of Firefox if you spoof your useragent and pretend to be Chrome. It has nothing to do with Firefox not having enough power to play videos, it's Google having too much power.
>>109245151Th.. that's literally what I said anon...
>>109244237I get a new update once a week? Enough that I ceebs restarting the browser to update it lol so weekly?>>109241837>>109241837Youtube is indeed the laggiest website on Waterfox , but it isn't unusable, and it's the only site that does this. As such I believe this is intentional by YouTube devsAs I said though I browse YouTube probably an hour a day on Waterfox and it isn't unusable, nor do I get laggy videos or something. Just when doing things like scrolling down comments heaps you can feel the engine struggling. I don't really know how Chrome handles this as I never use it for YouTube but I guess better?I also have 4 add ons installed that modify YouTube behavior so maybe that has something to do with it lol>>109242418I'm not the OP, but as someone who uses this browser a lot for me and ffamily I do wish they had a bigger userbase as it ensures it will keep getting developed Ultimately over the next 10 years I hope Ladybird continues to grow into a stable alternative. Would be great to move off both Firefox/Chrome engines that are huge due to all the crap that's been bolted on over the last 25 years or so
>>109244793>Just came out of Firefoxjust saw this thread, installed Helium. imported everything from FF.added Bitwarden and imported logins aswell.Works very smooth, especially youtube opens instantly with 3 game clients running. I love it.Only thing that i need to get used to is the active /inactive tabs confusing me...trying to fix it with a dark style theme.
>>109241837Get a better computer.
>>109240611>>109240677>>109240785>>109240790>>109240797i already have librewolf though
>>109244221Underage coded post
>>109243522I avoid knowing about trash.
>>109242710Elaborate on that, if you would. There's no difference I've found in maining librewolf except I have to unharden some surfaces for sites to work (and google) and the updater works a little differently.
>>109240611it's trash
This reminds me, what happened to Floorp? It was getting shilled on every Firefox thread and then nobody ever mentioned it again
>>109247387I'm still using it.
What browser should I switch to, now that Brave shit the bed? I need it to support Apple's password manager, and able to watch hdr content
>>109241963>>109242094>>109244793>>109246333>violently shilling your niggeriffic chromeshit in a firefox fork infomercial threadYou will be penetrated by a horse and die from anal wounds before the year is over.
>>109247415>I need it to support Apple's password managerSafari you dumb faggot.
>Better than ZenDoubtBut I will give them a chance again>Completely fleshed out vertical tab systemIf it doesn't have basic features like let me scroll through tabs with the mouse wheel, hide away the new tab button and hover over tabs to show and shrink them into favicons, all without touching userchrome, I'm ditching it right away, btw
>>109240611>Always based on latest Firefox ESROh nvm I thought it was worth using
>Completely fleshed out vertical tab system*snorts*
>>109240611I've been using Waterfox for 7 years and it is hands down the best browser ever. Currently running uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, and Tamper Monkey. Every works every single time. Not a single ad on jewtube either.
Guess I'll have to install it and see if it's compatible with my script that generates a userChrome.css based on your terminal color palette and creates a start page of the same colors. I've been trying to keep it compatible with every FF fork but there's just so goddamn many of them.
>>109240611their is absolutely no fucking reason to use over librewolf or any other firefox fork. All the stuff that made it faster performance wise is now in everything else the 64bit etc its meaningless at this point. Unless they somehow turn waterfox into thorium for firefox its fucking pointless.
>>109247890waterfox isn't chromium you fucking retard. Everything you listed can be done by every firefox alt.
>>109247953I like how they advertise tree style tabs as a waterfox exclusive when an extension has been doing that for years much better than this dogshit implementation When you go into the settings, it says "waterfox exclusive" in every feature that firefox does not provide by default. It's pathetic
>>109247911WHATS THE FUCKING POINT??? I decided to try floorp shit is like every other firefox alt.>>109247956there is no fucking reason to use it. I stopped using waterfox when they switched over the the main firefox branch instead of them keeping old extensions working. That was the last time it was worth even using. Now I have yet to see anyone give me a fucking reason. Entire thread is filled with zoomer retards or something who just now figured out their are alternative firefox forks or some shit. who the fuck knows.
>>109244221do you not have a bank/brokerage account? Please walk into the nearest credit union Monday morning with $20 and a drivers license and say>Hey, I'd like to open an account
>>109247971>there is no fucking reason to use it9 reasons right here: >>109240611>>109247888Beta + You probably have a bunch of stuff in userchrome.css. I have never seen it get fucked up at all, but that's above and beyond.
>>109248086all those reason are literally on every other alt you retard
>>109240860>opera 12ripIt was just so easy to use, and it could do so much.
>>109246357Totally unrelated retard, ff lags because google is botching non-chronium useragents
>>109247632Bro i'm just a guest here lurking as always...my machine is old and i've always but always used firefox.just gave this "niggeriffic" browser a try and it's smooth as hell. Got all my addons i need, the shortcuts...it's 99% the browser i've been using for years just different name but much smoother. You got any better advices for me than this "niggeriffic" helium ?
Fuck zen, fuck all the other built in vertical tab shit, fuck you ,fuck everyone.Sidebery 4lyfe
All firefox browsers are garbage.
>>109248168Helium is a Chromium fork. It is not even close to '99% the browser you've been using for years'.>i'm just a guest here lurking as always...>i've always but always>smooth as hell>Got all my addons i need>the shortcuts...>much smoother>got any better advices for me?Yeah, attend about 500 more hours worth of ESL classes or go back to your Indian discord group and never come back.
>>109247645Windows
>>109248416not him but not a argument
>>109248385>>109248385All browsers are garbageWill LadyBird save us?
>>109249879no one was arguing thoughbeit
Just tried to give Zen a try because why notWhile I do like the minimalist interface, it still has no HDR support, like every other firefox fork I tried so far, so that's a no from meToo bad
>>109240860We can't have anything nice; it always gets enshitified.
>>109240611Now it will become shitty, because you couldn't gatekeep it.
>>109253943HDR is pleb trash for consumer cattle.
>>109253943It looks pretty decent.Thank you!
>>109255226Waterfox looks superior.
>>109240611Unless I'm mistake you can already make normal Firefox ESR into basically this. I still don't understand the usecase for Waterfox/Librewolf/whatever when you can almost 1 to 1 turn them into what Librewolf/Waterfox are with some about:config settings and shit.
>not portablehttps://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/releases/latest/Into the garbage can it goes.
>>109240677Your phone is most likely safer for that anyway.
>>109255212Whatever you say, third worlder
>>109240611can it handle native homepage setting or does it still require an extension?
>>109255331I knew /g/ is tech illiterate now, but holy fuck
>>109240611using anything besides Chrome is for the unemployed. ublock lite with the mv3 violentmonkey lack none of the functionality you just like to swap your tranny linux distribution along with your tranny browser every 2 days because you're not doing anything worthwhile with your life
>>109257061he's right nigga
>>109255231>Unless I'm mistakeI'm afraid you're mistake.
>>109257100Until some site breaks and you have to wait 3 days until they release an update.
>>109257120Sure he is anon, according to consensus reality, which is entirely defined by sociopaths and the deranged (jews, jeets, transhumanists, ultra-rich pedophiles etc...).
