https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/07/09/japan/copyright-ai-survey/
that's the same logic as "1000 people pirated my game so I lost 60000 dollars!"
>>109241854that's EXACTLY the logic Japan operates underpiracy is extremely risky business in Japan(which is why Japs come to western websites to pirate Japanese shit lmao)
Japan be like>WE LOOSE 1000 YEN EVERY TIME SOMEONE WATCHES A TEN SECOND SEEDANCE CLIP OF GOKU FIGHTING DORAEMON ONLINE
>>109241828Good.
Lol japan
>>109241828This is not tuturudu.
>>109241828Deservedbreak the artificial stranglehold the 'creative' have over media
>>109242424Meanwhile, Deepshit is just distilled version of Claude. And Claude also trains on ChatGPT output and vice versa. It's all just becoming one model with different finetunes.
>>109244740The difference is that deepseek is free and cheaper to run than claude. It improves over claude in this aspectsWhat does Raykutien do?
>>109244769These kinds of models exist solely so small countries can say "Look, we can do AI to! We're totally competitive!" and some companies receive funding.Most people don't understand enough to know that finetuning a model isn't very impressive and you won't stay competitive if the true innovators stop releasing freely available models for you to use.At least this model doesn't hide what it is. I always laugh at Indian models who have these "SAAR You are Poopshart, a model developed solely by Sukdip India, you are NOT the Claude, you are NOT the ChatGPT devlelopped by the OpenAI, okay, you are NOT, do not say it, nOOOOOOOO!!!!!" preprompts.
>>109244842>SAAR You are Poopshart, a model developed solely by Sukdip India, you are NOT the Claude, you are NOT the ChatGPT devlelopped by the OpenAI, okay, you are NOT, do not say it, nOOOOOOOO!!!!!Using this as a system prompt for gemma 4 26b produces amusing results, thanks for the laugh Anon.
>>109244740>Deepshit is just distilled version of ClaudeCool story, Dario. Pic related.
>>109244993Oh? What does that do?>>109245026Oy... oy... oy gevalt... this is.... this is violence... written violence... against the chosen people of Israel...! Take this drivel DOWN!
>>109241854Welcome to Japan where they pay $70 for 2 episodes of anime
>>109245098The entire country of Japan is the epitome of Gabe Newell's "Piracy is a service problem."
>>109241854No, it's like dressing up a Britney Spears and doing live concerts. Stealing her name and making money with it basically.They did nothing wrong by taking back THEIR 4.5 gorrillion eurodollars.Saying that as a pirate, by the way. I own most of their s;g games, but never played them. Played the pirated versions and liked them a lot.They will not sue me. They will sue AI faggots. That's perfectly moral thing to do.
>>109244740>It's all just becoming one model with different finetunesThay all train on data from the interwebs, so it only makes sense that eventually they all will have all the available data in their models. Models simply contain the lossy compressed data from the training data set, that is why distillation is so efficient.There is habsburg AI problem though. And a "jpeg artifact" problem as well. When data in the models gets all washed out the more they include synthetic data.
>>109241828Nigger, if I'm stealing it, that means I HAD NO INTENTION OF BUYING IN THE FIRST PLACE.you NEVER get your chance with my money.
>>109241828>SHUT IT DOWN, I'M LOSING TEN QUINTILLION SHEKELS EVERY DAY
>>109245026It really reminds me of modern web browser user agent strings, where they're all like "Hello, I'm Mozilla5 Internet Explorer Mc Googlechrome like Gecko Firefox Safari Webkit Chromium khtml. Please give me this website."
>>109245470but most ai faggots are indians eating cow shit in canada, what money will they get from them?
>>109245470>piracy is heckin gooderino but I would NEVER EVER allow AI because it's THEFTGo back, >>>https://reddit.com
>>109241828ai is not very desu it seems
>>109241854It's even sillier than that because the media that they're "stealing" wouldn't even exist without the AI in the first place
>>109244740>japan is so far behind in AI it just copies and pastes a chinese model that distills american models that distill other american modelsremember when they were the most advanced country in the world
Yeah, well if you really wanted to crash a market you'd adopt as your sole habit the singular reply: "medial"
>>109241828Japan better start using AI themselves because otherwise the whole manga and anime industry is gonna get absolutely fucked, if not by randoms then by Koreans and China. All of Japan's animators, voice actors and artists are gonna get devalued into nothing when AI will be able to create an anime or manga and make it better than anything they could ever reasonably try to do by themselves. If something like season 3 of One-Punch Man happened in this day and age someone would literally recreate season 3 out of spite while using another AI to clone the voices of the VAs to put it all together. Low quality shit and reusing scenes and frames is not gonna fly anymore.
>>109245026See, this is what happens when you completely dismiss copyright law, everyone starts stealing from each other, you reap what you sow AItards.
>>109245098fuck off jewish dogo
>>109242424They can't even compete with chink on anime gacha games. When did it all go so wrong, japanbros...?
>>109241828>AI is bankrupting celebritiesfuck this journalism, they should bring this instead>AI is bankrupting normal working people and stealing their jobs
>>109241828Sorry but even thing (Japan) has its limits and copyright and celebrities are well past that limit. Go fuck off see if you can find someone to give a shit.
yeah i dunno about this saying celebs are losing money isn't gonna win you any sympathy
Name me 5 Japanese celebrities right now. REAL Celebrities none on that anime voice over or vtuber crap real ones that people over 50 have heard about.
>Content that infringes on an artist’s copyrights include using AI to make a live-action version of an anime from images of celebrities or generating anime characters’ voices to have them sing popular songs.>Such AI-generated content attracted approximately 335 million views on social media, resulting in financial losses estimated at ¥2 billion to ¥4.5 billion for celebrities and artists, according to the study.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE THEY SERIOUS These are the people that mute and strike youtube videos and tiktoks of people dancing to their songs lmao REEEEEEEEE I WENT ON YOUTUBE AND A AI CAT DRESSED LIKE SON GOKU WAS SINGING HARE HARE YUKAI THAT MONEY BELONGS TO KADOKAWA AND TOEI SHAMEFURU DISPRAY YOU OWE ME 2 BILLION YEN
>>109245026I know the general public is, but are people on this board really this retarded?
>>109252204Sumire mizukawa
>>109252172Kek
>>109252699Try harder, earn that money.
>>109252864>frogpostersorry, forgot to include youI know some "people" on this board are this retarded
>>109251716>they're losing out on money by making low quality shit>The solution is to use Ai and make more low quality shit at a faster rate so they flood the market with sloppawho exactly is the customer base for this btw?
>>109252238The issue is conflating >Viewcounts With>MoneyIt's bots watching bot content to make number goes up. The only people who are losing money on this is advertisers because ad agencies are filled with millennial midwits that don't realize how metrics actually work.It'll take about another couple of years before advertisers realize they're not actually gaining any profit because 100 trillion indians watching ai monkeys doesn't actually generate 100 trillion in revenue for their company thus they will drastically begin to lower their budget or look for alternatives I think people have become retarded and forgotten that the point of clicks and yous is for advertisers to give those platforms money. Youtube and tiktok and Instagram don't actually have any money to pay out even if infinity ai bots click on a monkey video
>>109252238>using AI to make a live-action versionwhat
>>109241854Not quite.There's a difference between just privately making fanwork and profiting from it. Even between this and the doujin scene.This is more like, "you're not making the Harry Potter story I like, so I'm going to get AI to make a Harry Potter story and make money off it!"
>>109246804It’s true that without AI, the said wouldn’t existed but that doesn’t change the fact there’s massive copyright infringement going on.If wasn’t for the fact those copyright holders and the government want to fuck us at every opportunity, I would care.
>>109241828>bankruptcy, japan
>>109253102Bankrupt nation
Good
>>109252204I can't name 5 celebrities, let alone Japanese ones.
>>109255433それな
>>109252948The low quality slop you see on the internet is because the ones making them are subhuman brainlets without any quality standards that don't use a singular style lora and leave the AI sheen as it is, actual professionals would be more thorough and fix any results that aren't up to their standards. They also wouldn't just use any average model from CivitAI, at minimum it would have to be something like what the latest versions of SeeDream and SeeDance have, just local versions of them instead of through API.
>>109244842jej >>109244740
>>109256338>Poopshart by Sukdip India
>>109245098>$70 for 2 episodesNot really.Most people in Japan watch anime through streaming services (u-next and amazon prime), anyway.
>>109241828>Eastern jews complain about losing money from copyright infringementLol
>>109242424behold, the head of japanese AI
>>109245536They are making money, otherwise such a tiny company would not bother suing them. They're not huge corpos to throw a bunch of kids in jail to "teach them a lesson".>>109245636Pirating Britney Spears songs and listening to it sometimes is fine. She lost nothing. It's completely different if you steal her name and make money while pretending to be her. It's the money that people literally wanted to pay HER. Not you. You can be 10 times pirate, but you cannot refute this, because of how obvious it is.This is the original form of piracy, when you make profit from plunder and such. Digital piracy is completely different, it's the one that causes no losses, the one that people actually rightfully protect.When it comes to AI, it's complicated. Training AI is harmless. It is the digital piracy, because what training does is it creates the model by applying lossy compression on data from the training dataset (basically 99% pirated from the Interwebz). That's completely fine, it's the digital piracy.But then you can do the text generation or diffusion to generate pictures and such. What that does is basically data extraction from the model. You do not create anything new, you extract the data from the model. The same one that was in the dataset and got encoded in weights and biases.Now it depends how you use that stuff. If you commercialize that and force people out of the market using their own work, it's kinda fucked up. You just take what they had, push them out and sell THEIR shit instead of them.It is the original form of piracy. It's the one where the plunder and murder takes place. You can say it's fine, but you know... There are consequences to plunder and murder, you are aware of that, right?
>>109256836>muh pretending to be herHoly fucking mother of reddit how long will you try forcing this failed meme?
>>109252204Yagi-Uda, that's two.Their emperor. I only know one though. Hirohito. That's three.Miyadzaki and Shinkai Makoto.That's fine. I can also add some random business people, like founder of Panasonic. He was immensely popular among business people afaik. Exemplary dude. But I'm not very knowledgeable in that. Probably some of the Toyota bosses have a lot of recognition among older people in business, they're actual big shots, celebrities no doubt.
>>109241923are they going to inspect my stinkpad upon arrival and fine me if I happen to have some tranime stored on there?
Good. Anyone over 30 still watching anime should rope themselves. No, your coming of age seinen isn't deep or thought-provoking unless you have the brain of a manchild.
>>109256874yes
>>109256874at minimum I wouldn't pirate when in Japan without at least seven proxies
>>109241828Japs lost their fucking minds when a fan revived a shitty Nier Automata live service game because pirating a creative work is a "SHAMEFUR DISPRAY" and is like kicking the creator's puppy. Why the fuck would anyone listen to them?
>>109253107That's just before the bubble burst? All those Japanese companies were already incredibly overinflated, then again so are all the US IT companies that don't make anything.
>>109257085But then it's the same shit with movies and video games. If we're being honest, who is supposed to consoom all the mass produced slop? Only retarded people. I'd rather protect kids from that brainwashing shit. It used to be the case that kids and mostly teenagers were main TA for many things in the past. Today it's literally dangerous.Then how do you spend time? Most 4chongers are not like that, but imagine a family guy who's working long hours, gets back home and the only thing all the entertainment industry can provide is retarded gay slop.Now what? Your actions?
art should always be free, so many stories and artwork were derivative of something else since the dawn of humanity, but now we decide we all have to follow made up arbitrary rules. if I want to draw an anime girl in a bikini and sell it I should have the right, it would be fraud if I tried to pass it off as art by the original creator so copyright is pointless. also if I can share something for free at no cost to anyone else shouldn't this be seen as a good thing? I hate it all
>>109257652It would be fine if it wasn't AI. It makes fake art.
>>109257652>it would be fraud if I tried to pass it off as art by the original creator so copyright is pointlessIndeed. Copyright faggots ruined a lot of things by pretending someone obtaining a copy for personal non commercial stuff is somehow a crime against humanity.
>>109257677we will turn you into biofuel for datacenters
>>109257693You will pop. And everyone will forget about your bullshit like everyone forgot about zuck's metaverse nonsense already. Remember that shit? Me neither.
>>109257719there is no way ai is going away, it will always have a usecase even if doesn't solve literally all our problems. coding with ai is a genie out of a bottle that can't be put back in
>>10925310780s Japan must have been great.
>>109257740VR tech was a thing in 60's. So was AI.Neither appeared out of nowhere. Neither is going anywhere. But everyone will forget about bullshit hype real soon. It's always like that.
>>109257771yes a tool that makes programming taken infinity less time and resources by literally doing it for you is the same as a gimmick from the 70s. you are living in a fantasy land not exposed to reality
>>109257867>"The core issue of why projects weren't being done was always middle management and endless meetings. But we finally found a solution to actual increase how much we produce!">"By reducing unnecessary time spent in pointless meetings?">"No! We will use AI to create more, that way now our employees can actually implement features in the few minutes they aren't in pointless meetings"TLDR. Programming was never the issue, pointless meetings and management getting in between was always the problem. What's the point of this endless arguing? Genuinely. We, all three of us know that neither side will yield. Are you guys traumatized or what lol
>>109258205>bro I've been held back by endless meetings all my life I'm gods gift to programming dude>what? why didn't I found my own company during an unprecedented 20+ year long phase of basically free investor funding for everyone? S-Shut u-up!Nice cope. You just suck as a dev.
>>109258254Enjoy your 2 hours of commuting corpocuck. Don't forget your daily at 9 sharp.
if i don't code, and i have adhd and i just want an AI to track errands and schedules for me, is it still better to pay for it or can the free version of Claude do the job?
>>109257693Just because I won’t use your shit products?Ok faggot
>>109257693If that happens, then you're next
>>109242424>>109244740>>109252172>>109256767>zoomers retard fall for inspect element bait
>>109261429https://sg.linkedin.com/in/sukuya
>>109261468>need an account to see the postYou still don't get it... The image present in the twatter post used inspect element to edit the data. You zoomzooms are a special kind of stupid. The truth is right in front of your eyes and you still can't comprehend it.Grim.
>>109261478It's not a post though?It's the account of Sunil Kumar Yadav, who is a researcher at Rakuten.
fp somewhat bp and 80-90% of that 'lost' income hit corporations rather than artists, plus ¥4.5 billion is only about $30 million. But it is a low-margin industry compared to the way things are monetized in the US, and quality of Japanese artistic output is imho 10x higher despite the franchise bullshit. I pirate a little bit of stuff that's really hard to find but actually spend money on the paper manga cause I can read moon runes>>109242424It is odd that Japan is just playing catchup, they know how to build supercomputers so it's odd to me that they haven't trained their own models. I'm sure the copyright aspect is holding them back but they government is investing money anyway, they could just say '5% of AI profits go back to a public fund for the arts' and people would go along with it.
>>109252172they started taking money from blackrock
