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I see many people saying that piracy is thriving, consumers backlashing against greedy companies, abandon subscription services and resort to piracy but in reality I see the opposite. Sites are closing one after another (especially rom, emulation and anime sites), torrents are slowly dying, storage is becoming unaffordable, burners are out of production. Piracy was huge because of cheap storage (hdds, optical burners, high quality discs) and high percentage of pc users and tech savvy enthusiasts who were digitizing and cracking licenced products, modchipping consoles, making their own websites, useful programs, offering services etc. And nobody was bragging about pirating on social media and kept a low profile unlike nowadays. The average consumer doesn't even have a desktop and prefers streaming, most people who discuss piracy are tech illiterate retards and virtue signallers who do nothing useful (seeding, uploading, sharing) or just share "funny" memes on social media (great way to attract more unwanted attention from corporations and the gov who will gladly accept the challenge) or expose sites that will be eventually taken down. Bunch of posers just like your average retro gamer youtubers who ruined the market.
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>>109243647
> Isn't piracy dying?
Actually yes, if you follow this RSS you would come to that conclusion.
https://torrentfreak.com/feed/
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>>109243647
Before AV1 I would have agreed but now the real problem is most people don't seem to know that AV1 exists. Online rippers are still stuck using H.264 or H.265 which don't give you the smallest filesize for okay-ish quality. Combined with rising storage costs there honestly isn't a better time for AV1 to shine, at least before AV2 becomes the next thing I guess.
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>>109243731
it's mostly iptv and jap shit being busted. piracy isn't dead for those still giving a shit about it.
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>>109243739
>this shitty poorly encoded webm again
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Its much simpler than that, piracy is dying because nothing is worth pirating anymore
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>>109243753
>missing the point
What do you want nigger, an award ceremony? Suck me.
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>>109243739
This is aids, why is it that software encoding is better than hardware encoding when it comes to quality, like a GPU is supposed to provide us like more direct encoding so making the process faster and better why does the intel encoder suck, is it even possible for it to match SVT-AV1?
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>>109243789
Because GPUs take shortcuts. Think of it like trying to finish an apartment demo job

1, 000 GPU cores = 1,000 niggers with a sledgehammer

8 CPU cores = 8 300 IQ Aryans with 30 years demolishing skyscrapers

both will get the job done and the former will probably do it faster but expect heavy damage to nearby buildings and the job to be incomplete...
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>>109243789
are video encoding ASICs even programmable? once it hits manufacturing, you cannot extend them or fix shit. that's why RDNA3 AV1 encoding is broken forever (1080p is padded to 1088p, kek).
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>>109243739
Oh please, don't make this yet another codec schizo thread
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>>109243930
AV1 literally addresses the rising storage cost problem directly. If this AI shit hadn't been allowed to assfuck us all on a global scale then we could have genuinely cruised by with H.264 for another decade or so until most people finally upgraded to a 10-bit (true 10-bit not 8-bit + FRC dogshit) display where the H.264 color banding is straight up eye-rape even at high bitrates. That's why streaming piracy exploded recently, instead of downloading over a TB in bloated H.264 video, you don't even store it anymore. Feds get a clear target to whack instead of hundreds to thousands of people seeding the same torrent.
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>gatekeep the everloving fuck out of your solution to corporate greed even though there's a massive desire to flip off corpos by the general public
>wtf why is this thing I advocate for dying :(
Same problem that Linux is going through
The sooner techies stop being stuck up gatekeepers and try to put themselves in the shoes of the average joe who can't sit at a computer 24/7 to be in the know of everything, the greater the chance these things have of taking off and thriving
That'll never happen though because of their superiority complex never allowing them to admit that maybe they're the problem
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This is a tedious and pointless discussion amongst a bunch of retards with no skin in the game. You talk about a bunch of hypotheticals without understanding why things are as they are. You're dumb nerds. The smart nerds are having discussions on private tracker forums. The normies are leeching yts. Nothing you say has any bearing on reality at all nor ever will. You might as well be discussing comic book characters.
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Enshitification of everything means there's nothing new worth pirating.
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>>109244196
I rather not
lack of gatekeeping invites normiefags and all that shit they entail
The unceasing dumbass questions when all they have to do is just shutup and read the instructions and minor troubleshooting
The shitting up of all discussion and a strange pivot to fucking up it all entirely
It is not up to the techs to cater to the normgroids. They offer a solution, it is on you how you go about it. Many are happy with taking it in the bum as they ask for more from their corporate overlords.
Also, making a fringe thing that is piracy as palatable as possible to the lowest common denominator will only lead to further scrutiny and attention from the popos.
And, the very concept of piracy requires some poor fucks to persist without piracy, to pay for their consumption, without their silent suffering, others will never be able to enjoy not interacting with the corpo greed
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>>109244196
If you're complaining about gatekeeping you're probably one of the people it exists to keep out
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I know damn well its dying, but I sometimes thing people who torrent who barely get any downloads yet much less seed because they don't even bothering opening a port for the torrent client.

I kinda feel I contribute to the downfall by sharing mostly porn
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Piracy is alive and well and will be as long as service economy models gate and georestrict content. If anything, it's been on the uptick in the west as prices increase. Torrents are unc shit now for better or worse though
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It never stopped being a thing but why would I tell you where and how
You don't need meme plastic shit to "burn" your data, any decent collection of HDDs and SSDs will do. HDDs can last decades if well taken care of. You don't even need to power them, you could save stuff then access it again years later. Still there.

But it depends on what you need. I don't watch movies much so I mostly get music and books. Plus whatever pics I saved over the years. So I don't need a ton of storage, a few TBs are enough
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>>109244910

Lil bro the SSD are nothing but a PCB shaped data drive one shortcircuit or a decade in storage and its a paperclip with nothing on it.
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>>109244506
>they don't even bothering opening a port for the torrent client.
Closed ports were an issue even 20 years ago but the major issue is ISPs switching to CGNAT due to IPv4 scarcity
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>>109243647
>HDDs are unaffordable to your average pleb
>The younger generation is too retarded to know how to pirate or even know what piracy is

In 20 years piracy will be dead.
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>>109243647
>Sites are closing one after another
Lmao dumbass
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>>109245174
Doubt it, piracy sites are just illegal streaming now, they're bigger than ever and have better libraries than every single official company. People will always wanna get shit for free forever, even i2p which is fringe as fuck has a shit load of active torrents. This is all just fear mongering because the normie class isn't involved(actually a good thing)
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>>109246044
How risky is torrenting "linux ISOs" on I2P? I've been looking into it since ID laws are likely to make the clearnet unusable in the near future and I don't feel like buying a few months of VPN time just to find out that the torrents I was interested in are dead.
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>>109243739
AV1 takes up to 40% longer to encode. Yeah it gives smaller file sizes for the same quality, but the long ass weight isn't worth it to save a few hundred megabytes.
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>>109246175
It is when the megabytes are more expensive
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>>109243647
normies are scared of pirating anything because of le heckin gay porn rape virus turning their pcs into a cryptominer, since they're too retarded to just use an anti virus or just dont download shady shit kek. people becoming more and more tech illiterate is what will kill piracy off.
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>>109243647
What's even worth to pirate? Hollyweird slop? Gayming slop? TV shows slop?
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>>109246194
I've never been able to find a source proving that a modern day AV1 encode takes longer than an H264 encode, at least regarding software encoding. Are you still using an older version of SVT-AV1?
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>>109243647
We're actually living in such a lucrative era of piracy that it is physically overwhelming to even begin the process of getting all that you want. There is so much available and it is so accessible that you can make an entire hobby out of procuring every piece of media you have ever been interested in and only have an occasional barrier. It's fucking depressing though because in spite of this 99% of people still keep paying for slop and rejecting the concept of ownership altogether.
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>>109243647
>>109246198
Keep normalfags out, they already ruined everything else.
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>>109246775
People just don't like new things for reasons
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>>109246816
this is the only real answer
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torrents go brrrrr
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>>109243647
It is dying in the sense that it's not like it was in the 2000s and even into the 2010s. People always mention the hydra, and to some extent that is still true, but it's not a for sure thing. When some sites go down now, sometimes they don't come back. With that being said, piracy is still far from being actually dead, especially in the private scene. Private trackers are the hardest they've ever been to get into, but at the same time their content is the best it's ever been.
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>>109243964
Piracy has nothing to do with data hording. I can watch anything with a 5TB cloud drive. Getting a TV show available takes seconds.
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>>109243739
I tinkered around a bit with AV1. I found H.264 to be higher quality in general. It starts to get complicated once you enable all the space saving features too. Easier to just encode everything with the same H.264 encoder settings.
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>>109247138
>>109247204
I think picrel might be able to explain it better than words. It's using SS2, a quality metric currently considered state-of-the-art in matching human subjective opinions.
Now depending on which one of these you focus on, AV1 will CURB STOMP H.264 hard as a motherfucker, like metal boot curb stomp after doing PCP curb stomp.
Or it'll just be a meh kind of deal. Anyway when I said "okay" quality then a rough mapping to that would be a SS2 score of 50.

>90 = visually lossless. Distortion not noticeable by an average observer in a flicker test at 1:1 from a normal viewing distance.
>80 = very high quality. Distortion not noticeable by an average observer in a side-by-side comparison at 1:1 from a normal viewing distance.
>70 = high quality. MOS score around 4 ('good') in a BT.500 ACR test. Artifacts are perceptible, but not annoying.
>50 = medium quality. MOS score around 3 ('fair') in a BT.500 ACR test. Slightly annoying artifacts.

https://github.com/cloudinary/ssimulacra2

https://www.reddit.com/r/AV1/comments/1jpku0s/codec_encoder_comparison/
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no anon otaku and hikki pirate as usual and while not endorsed it is seen for the necessity
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Yes I've had a harder time finding stuff. But I'm not deep into the art, I just used normie trackers. Also I noticed irl people telling me how they're back to pirating like the old days, like it's a trend supposedly. Everything is dying including this piece of shit webstie that requests an IQ test just to drop a comment, who even posts here? Is it a selected group of people because they are commercially friendly to the ad business? The question I actually have is, the world is dead/dying, replaced by safe AI replicas, hollow, devoid of soul for the most part, that I can tell, but, where are the people that wouldn't allow this shit to happen? I doubt they just died or accepted things like that.

I had to do the captcha thrice. Seriously fuck this government-owned website, it's the same people that killed the internet for muh money, fuck money, fuck kikes, and fuck you.
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>>109246229
Holy shit this. Nothing is worth my time even for $0.
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>>109243731
Torrents aren't piracy. Global jew has changed this.
This replacement for myrient, "minerva" proved my statement. You can't download anything because it's throttled and they uploaded one ginormous file. Piece of shit trolling if you ask me.
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>>109244196
Real gatekeeper is the anti-intelluactalism and the fact it's favourable to utter words in ebonics.
Read a book once in your life.
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you guys can keep concern trolling.

im gonna keep buying server harddrives
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>>109247801
>myrient
This mf literally can't find roms or isos, the easiest thing to pirate in existence. Ever heard of Vimm's? Know about no-intro and redump? Not just as a thing you see on sets of files but as sources of hashes and dat files containing hashes so you can verify that what you found on different sites that are scattered to the winds is a good dump. If all of this sounds like Greek to you I suggest asking an AI to unpack it for you and stop being a useless fucking idiot who acts like a single website going down is the end of game preservation.
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I still pirate everything like always
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>>109243647
IQ is dying. Idiots always exclusively stream low bitrate pixel mush. Honestly why waste the time thinking about normoids.
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These shills are so fucking tiring.
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>>109243862
>RDNA3 AV1 encoding is broken forever (1080p is padded to 1088p, kek).
RDNA3 user here. Not that I need GPU encoding when CPU can do it much better, but what the fuck? Source for that?
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>>109243789
>why is it that software encoding is better than hardware encoding
Because software is much more flexible and can do anything hardware can do.
Why would a piece of fixed-function hardware achieve a better result than a program?

Ever wondered why we use CPUs to render high-quality graphics for CG movies and such? GPUs are only used for speed. That's why we called them "graphics accelerators".
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>>109246175
>longer to encode
Fuck do I care about that? It's not me doing the encode, it's the CPU.
My life does not stop while the CPU is encoding. I can keep using the computer while it's encoding (set it to low priority), or go do some other shit, or let it work overnight.
Your CPU works for free. The bytes is what you have pay for.
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>>109244910
>any decent collection of HDDs and SSDs will do
I hope you're not using SSDs as actual long-term storage, anon. You'll get a nasty surprise in 1 year or 2.
And data on an HDD doesn't last decades on a shelf either, I promise you.
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>>109246175
>longer to encode
Works on my GPU
Have you tried not being a poorfag tech luddite?
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>>109244975
>CGNAT
This shit should be illegal.
If I'm paying for an internet connection, how come I can't connect back to my house? What the fuck.
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Why pirate porn when you can AI gen it

Why pirate film when you can AI gen it

why pirate games when you can AI gen it (5 years from now)

and so on and so forth
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>>109243836
Best analogy I have ever seen
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>>109243647
Piracy is easier and more rampant than ever, the only scene I'd say is "dying" is modern console piracy BUT thats only because jailbreaks are more awkward and back in the day there weren't half as many updates to keep pumping out as fresh uploads on sites for every single game.
Overall its far easier to pirate, my pirated anime literally downloads ITSELF every week now without me having to click anything.
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>>109243930
lol
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/ZJcoerF7Bbi-arRai-q1wQ/
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>>109243647
most games/content sucks, so its not dying, per se, it's starving to death from the lack of quality content to pirate.
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>>109250493
The combination of porn sites becoming more restricted with bot detection, download prevention, ID checks, etc. I don't even go to the many free porn sites anymore. I've been content with genning on my low spec machine from 2018 with SDXL and if I can ever afford to upgrade it's going to be even better. So there's just no reason to go back now.
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>>109243758
>piracy is dying because nothing is worth pirating anymore
This
I barely pirate anything anymore because it's getting harder each year to find anything worth pirating
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>>109243647
Only in the West.
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>>109243647
sex.
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>>109243647
Piracy is doing fine
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>>109246175
>save a few hundred megabytes
If every video file I have suddenly got shaved down by 40mb I'd regain like 10% of my entire drive back. I can either pay 360$ for a 6TB drive or I can pay 440$ for an 8tb to store almost the same amount of shit.

>It's 40% slower!
Yeah my entire PC doesn't lock up while encoding, I can do other shit. Even if it did, wow! My PC is gonna take an extra 2 minutes to encode! I can just go on my phone, read, take a shit, whatever
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It's actually easier now than it ever was to find direct download links for full cracked games or movies than it ever was in the past. I rarely ever open a torrent client these days.
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Ever since I started using Linux I stopped pirating because it's a gamble to make everything work on WINE or Lutris, or whatever layer I need to install just to run a keygen or edit regedit on a prefix.
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>>109243758
True and real.
Music is dead, movies are dead, games are dead.
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>>109243758
A friend of mine saves couple of subscription costs by warezing. If all of these would be bought legally, it would cost some. I'm talking about:
ebooks
audiobooks
movies & tv series (international releases from public trackers and region-specific from private trackers)
Of course first step of playing it safer is to pay ~5 bucks from a vpn but that's not much compared to multiple streaming services
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>>109254608
This, piracy is doing great. It's the content that is drying up.
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>>109243647
>storage is becoming unaffordable
Why arent these companys using their own cloud storage that they are trying to sell to us?
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>>109243647
>Isn't piracy dying?
no but yes
people who pirated have it better than ever
otoh the younger zoomercattle doesn't even own computers (or anything else, really) so they couldn't pirate even if they wanted to
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>>109255439
>zoomercattle
they all do the streaming sites/apps and pirate a ton too
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>>109243647
As a Russian who uses Rutracker or used a lot, I see there's a decline in amount of peers and many people nowadays just consume music/media from our own inner streaming paid platforms.
And Steam made the games very available for us, so pirating games is also in declining.
But some programs like Adobe's and others are still being pirated, because we can't even get them legally cause of the sanctions.
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>>109243647
The root cause is that the new generation is technologically illiterate. They can use the GUI but have no understanding of what is happening underneath. And with GUI I mean only modern stuff: show then an old phone with a dial and they have no idea how to work it.
You can see it in other firlds too. IT used to be a problem that people did their electrical work themselves, quite against regulation of course. This is no longer a problem. The electrician I called to do some rework after the previous owner, told me that the new generation is entirely useless.
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>>109243647
don't know, just been quietly using nzbs/Usenet for the last 20 years, fast as your connection, no uploads, encrypted, $2/mo for a provider, $10/quarter for nzb indexer. Can automate everything if you want but I like browsing whats new.



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