we were laughing at china but now they are seriously catching up.and you will shift from "haha they suck" to "more competition better" to save your face
>>109247596Chinese century
>prohibit export of products to China>China makes their own alternatives of said products>wonder how any of this could happenThe West should keep China on a leash. Keep exporting crippled versions of tech so they don't make their own. It's only a matter of time before someone invents the lens over there and ASML becomes unnecessary.
>>109247596Good. Everyone is using chinese parts already - including you - cause they are much cheaper and they caught up on quality. Their gpus are shit however and will remain shit for a ~decade cause they cant make drivers.
>>109247596>seriously catching uplmao. did you see the perfs? it's barely at the level of a 1060. apple made a gpu much much better.
>>109247915>apple made a gpu much much better.That's all fine and dandy, but Apple isn't China. That a Chinese (undoubtedly state-subsidized) company is going to make something comparable to the West's output is troubling. Make no mistake, they won't stop until they've defeated us, and they will continue far beyond that.
>>109247596I am praying to God that I can buy Chinese RAM posthaste.
>>109247915Wasn't it 3060? Not too bad compared to intel's first attempt.
>>109247978no, 1060. it's shit.
>>109247982>missing the point
>>109247987what point? china can't innovate on its own. they run after us and if they had to respect patents, they would be nowhere. fuck them.
>>109247991The point is that none of>china can't innovate on its own. they run after us and if they had to respect patentsmatters. They will create GPUs, with unlimited funding from the State no less, that will eventually compete with ours.
>>109247993>that will eventually compete with ours.no.
>>109247932>Chinese (undoubtedly state-subsidized) company is going to make something comparable to the West's output is troubling.nah you inbred mongoloid, competition is good, not troubling.
>>109247982Where you getting that from? It says 3060 everywhere.
>>109247991You are bunch of beaners now, you time is over.
>>109248006
>>109247999It's not proper competition if not pushed forward by the free market. China has none of that, no matter what the Temus of this world look like.
>>109248012So its around 3060, but sucks at vulkan, but im only interested in vulkan as a penguin.
>>109247596>to save your faceand ching kung flu to you as wellwhy wouldn’t i want chinks to catch up tho? competition is best for end consumers, why would i care about nvidia/amd profits?
>>109247596But can it run Crysis?
>>109248050>So its around 3060lol sure thing Chang. More like 1660, even though the 1660 was on 12nm with a 120W TDP while this is 6nm and 225W TDP. The PRC is still so far behind it isn't funny.
>>109247596>to save your faceand this is how I know OP is 100% a Chang. Face in China is the same as Izzat for Indians.
>>109248696Writing GPU driver is black magic. Not even NVIDIA and AMD figure that out yet.
>>109248696yes but a few years ago they were at gtx750 performanceit's a pretty big leap regardless
Worse, they might create an entirely different path for personal computing that has nothing to do with the accepted mainstream.
Why do they copy everything we do except freedom-of-speech?
>>109248050>INTEL SHIT TOTALLY BEAT EVERYONE YOU GOYS
This China garbage does not have hardware ray tracing, mesh shaders, sampler feedback, it simply won't run games
>>109248696It's behind, sure. But I think it's mostly due to drivers and not hardware.Intel, when they first launched ARC was a complete shitshow with their drivers too.And that's a company with decades of experience making CPU'S and IGPU's
>>109247803The whole reason they have the ability to make their own is because of export to begin with.
>>109247915Yeah but it will cost 1/10th of what western counterparts cost and will be easy to just buy online from Aliexpress or other meme shops.First time dealing with Chink consumer tech? It's their standard thing - create something "meh" but costing pennies and flooding market with it because a new card comparable to 1660 for 100$ is still good enough, especially when western companies are driving prices of everything up.
>>109249599lolIntel already threw in their (little) hat. Arc is dead.
>>109250150>The whole reason they have the ability to make their own is because of generations of intellectual theft.
>>109250316Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Intellectual property is not property, it's a complete fantasy used only for rent-seeking by the jewish mafia. Good on the chinks for not giving a fuck about it.>b-but it was my idea!Should've made it better and cheaper when you had the chance.
>>109247596>>109248711I am not the most articulate person on the planet but I an observant so I will try to explain this for the anons as best I can. You need to understand theseChinese people will try to deny this but from personal experience but the lens from which they view the world and all of their decisions are filtered through Face. The denial itself is funny because they feel like admitting to Face culture is hurting their Face. Every time a Chinese person tells me about how great China is they always do it from an adversarial position. The boast is always made from a measurement against another country such as the US. Their entire perception of the world is designed around trying to "catch up" to the west. They cannot comprehend that until they stop measuring their success against others they will forever be second at best.tl;dr Retarded bug-men can't understand of the concept of "I don't think about you at all".
>All this seethingKekLong live China
>>109250392>Should have kept it a secret in a way nobody else could profit from it.I wonder why stagnation in the countries that have adopted a similar thought always occurs and they have to siphon IP from other countries or higher brain trusts that rot their companies from the inside.You get what you pay for.
>>109247786really starting to hate AI now
>>109248008SW anon here, oddly I’ve seen less beaners lately.
>>109251270Sorry you got raped
>>109251268Patents and IP are rigorously enforced in China even against the largest corporationsSee mihoyo vs tencent
>>109247786>>109251326When will the Chinese do something first? Or is their entire existence predicated on waiting for whites to innovate so they can try to copy it?
>>109251335Lmao. Go to China some time.
>>109251346Deepseek r1 was the first reasoning model that used chain of thought and reinforcement learning. All other models copied it subsequently.
>>109251349https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1mf1lno/mihoyo_sued_temu_for_unfair_competition_and_won/I can give you actual examples while you say nothing meaningful
>>109251346The net catch system was never used by anyone else before
>>109247596Good GPU drivers take years and heavy investment. They haven't put the time in. Neither has Intel for that matter.
>>109251392it came after oai o1 tho...
When they throw that thing?
>>109247786This video is reversed
>>109252279you can literally watch a livestream of the same rocket launching 10 minutes before idiot
>>109247596only thing these wuflu faggots are catching is more winged rats for their bat soup fall for these distraction memes as much as you want taiwan invasion is coming and gearing up two more weeks
>>109247596And why the fuck you care? Are your feelings hurt or something? Are you Chinese by any chance?
>>109252399what? long live china, faggot
>>109251945and you have 0 reading comprehension.
>>109247786what an odd way to construct chimneys
>>109252423>NOooooo! You can't insult the le heckin based chink third world totalitarian shithole, they're based!
>>109250105>But I think it's mostly due to drivers and not hardware.You're fucking retarded. If a changchip is on 6nm and has a 220W TDP while a 1660 is on 12nm and has 120W TDP, then it's easy to extrapolate that the changcard has 2-4x the number of transistors as the 1660 and is brute forcing everything, drivers be damned. >>109251409Yeah, a $150k is really nothing meanigful. The case was as performative as China as a whole.
>>109252969>>109251409a $150k fine
>>109252886Chinese have the human right to use AC which Europeans don't
>>109252973That's worth more than temu's entire inventory
>>109252969>>109252973>Moving the goalposts
>>109248696The way Western industry is jacking up prices and recycling old products they'll be at parity in another generation.
>tech board>doesn't ever read tech newsIt is ImaginationTech arch, not some brand new unique arch family I can't believe how fucking dumb you people are
>>109251346>waiting for whitesI think you meant waiting for America. Europe adopted communism and their economy is stalling. China accelerated with capitalism
>>109247596>>109247932>That a Chinese (undoubtedly state-subsidized) companybecause western governments never subsidized (oil, car industry...) or paid for r&d (DARPA, subsidized universities, ...) that was later used by big companies, or gave them zero-interest loans (through central banks/federal reserve ZIRP), or bought their stocks (through central banks/fed) so they could keep producing high tech stuff for cheap, or manipulating the stock market, and never bailed them (intel) or their banks out, or...westerners are such huge hypocrites, it's not even funny anymore.>>109248711americans lost the Iran war and your president doesn't have the balls to admit it...and you have the audacity of talking about face culture in other countries kek
>>109247786use case?
>>109247915>Apple made a GPULmao
lack of competition on GPU market is really weird. every single phone SoC comes with a GPU inside. it can't be that hard to make.
>>109247596>heh the Chinese will never be able to manufacture good solar panels, uh I mean batteries, uh I mean wind turbines, uh I mean coal power plants, uh I mean nuclear reactors, uh I mean cars, uh I mean DRAM, uh I mean GPUs (You are here), uh I mean AI accelerators, uh I mean industrial scale fusion reactors Time to party like it's 1999 because for most of us it is.
>>109247596I dont care about GPU but wheres the DDR5 ram production starts in china ?
>>109256729>Yes, CXMT (ChangXin Memory Technologies) manufactures DDR5 RAM chips. They produce 16Gb and 24Gb DDR5 dies with speeds scaling up to 8,000 Mbps. Brands like Corsair, Lexar, and KingBank use these domestic memory modules in consumer products.
