Talk me out of getting a Pixel with GrapheneOS.
shit hardware or something
your banking app might not work
>>109257025i never had this bug though i do have one where my phone wont send or receive calls until i restart it
>>109257011Proprietary apps might not work soon. RCS absolutely will not work with the default messaging app. There is no way to get most of the carrier apps so some functionality might be broken, especially using 3rd party texting/calling apps (just use the built in ones, they aren't pretty but they work the most with the various carriers). The Google hardware isn't good for gaming, so if you wanted to emulate some high end games or run WINE for PC games then you'd absolutely be out of luck. GrapheneOS forums/reddit are no help for rooting because grapheneOS devs don't recommend it.
>>109257011The motorola graphene phone will drop soon
>>109257025Get one of those 60+ years old boomer banks that doesn't give a shit.
>>109257025then sue for monopolistic practices, ubnironically
>>109257011That fed on this board hates it>>109257025Always heard about this being a concern, never heard about this happening
>>109257011Do it it has the latest updates on the tailored access for israel
Only reason to get a Pixel (hardware isn't great). GrapheneOS is the most deGoogled ROM which I like. Most banking apps work but it could change one day. Strong Play Integrity cannot be passed.
>>109257011I won't. Just get it.
>>109257011>tensor 5 processor that's two generations behind snapdragon, bionic and dimensity soc's>shitty battery tech>poor stuttering camera>overheating issues>bluetooth drop issues>screen artifacts And that's before you flash an OS that doesn't want you to install any kind of useful software and turns, in some cases, a $1000 flagship mobile phone into a dumb phone, something you can buy for $20 on Amazon.
>>109257011wait for the motorola instead
>>109257025Bank of America and TD Bank work perfectly for me
>>109258491Some do, some don't. For me, HSBC doesn't. Just login to their website with the web browser.
shit hardware
>>109257071>soondefine soon please, I may want one.
I have an iPhone in lockdown mode and use the browser for most things, feels pretty safe.
>>109258695>feels
>>109258508>Just login to their website with the web browserNot possible for applets even if their browser is also an app
>>109257011it's a matter of time before Google kills AOSP and custom roms like Graphene with it
>>109258703I'm sure you've audited the full source code for GrapheneOS which is useless anyways because the binary blobs for the modems and other functions are proprietary. Anon turning on lockdown mode and feeling more secure is exactly the same as running grapheneOS and praying the Google hardware doesn't have hardware level backdoors and surveillance functions which oh shocker applies to all phones.
>>109257011Vendor locked (corpoware).Advertised to criminals (spyware).Has 6-point star as OS logo (they are basically laughing at you).
>>109258793>Vendor locked (corpoware).>Advertised to criminals (spyware)Walk me through these?
>>109257011None of my financials work with it. I just use it for privacy stuff and an iPhone for my financials.
Here’s the thing about privacy. If you think you need it, you don’t. Just don’t strand out. I use Windows 11 ltsc. Not because of telemetry, but fuck the ads. I like 11. If you need that kind of security, buy an iPhone sans camera through apple’s security store. It gives you kernel level access and toggles beyond lock down mode. If they want you, they can find you. The guid thing is enough to wake you up. But even then, there’s other ways to find you. I can get your personal details from an image you think is clean. You can’t scrub the kind of fingerprint. There’s spyware in your usb cables. Especially usb-c. Connect to WiFi anywhere? And I’m looking for a specific handshake? I got you. Even on graphene or lockdown ios. It’s just the nature of the Internet and how things fundamentally are.
Pixel's battery life is shit tier. I am a Pixel owner.
>>109258873>Here’s the thing about privacy. If you think you need it, you don’t.Thanks Klaus. Sorry to hear about your gay aids.
>>109258695What's lockdown mode? Also I remember apple used to have a budget variant of iPhones called SE or something, why did they stop doing them?
>>109257154>That fed on this board hates itOf course the glowniggers hate things that they cann't spy on.
>>109258687End of 2027
>>109257054Rooting is very simple, but a waste of time.
>>109257025Retard, you're supposed to be using the browser, anyway. Apps have trackers and telemetry
>>109258775if grapheneos is good enough to take mossad a month or two to crack every release i'm good
Where's the homebrew phonesmith who makes good phones that don't sell as much of your soul as possible to glowniggers?
>>109259029no such thing
>>109258873>>109258981
>>109258946Tailored access
are GrapheneOS users really this fucking retarded?
>>109257011i have a pixel 3a with lineage and its way better
>>109258827you need to install these viruses or banking doesnt work
>>109260077thats a normie USING grapheneOS of course its a retard
>>109260077The amount of people thinking GrapheneOS is some kind of all solving privacy solution is too damn high. If you keep using the same proprietary spyware applications and give them all the permissions they ask for, nothing will really change. It gives you all the control you need to get privacy, but it also gives you the power to give everybody the same amount of data you were giving them on stock android.
>>109260077I'm sure a user like Xxxr is a reputable source. Especially when he's a proud facebook user. Anybody else notice how out of the blue in less than 20 minutes 4 suspicious posts about GOS being bad pop up after this thread being inactive for over 2 hours?
>>109260229grapheneOS is shilled in viral youtube videos to retards who have no idea about anything & it will keep happeningthey are creeped out enough about everybody spying on them to try it ; but not care enough to learn
>>109258873>I can get your personal detailsNo you can't. Stop larping
>>109260248its stupid easy to hack a lot of phones if you don't care about what the fcc says not to do
>>1092586872 more weeks
>>109260237That's a problem for all privacy solutions. Too many people are accommodating and giving answers like they're providing silver bullets so as to not scare the homo normus.
>>109260207>>109260229>>109260230my thoughts exactly. these retards think they're privacy-minded, yet, still using big tech slop.>>109260230>Anybody else noticedon't care. still using GrapheneOS. I would say that I find it really weird that GrapheneOS has no way of booting the OS with no cellphone or WiFi radios turned on. Not even tuning airplane mode on and rebooting works. The default is your device is a beacon searching for connections. also, why are sensors and nearby services turned on by default after a fresh install?
>>109260285>don't care. still using GrapheneOS.My point is that the fed hasn't fulfilled his quota it seems. Interest in a thread doesn't suddenly spark out of nowhere that it lays dormant for 2 hours and then gets 4 replies in less than half an hour.
>>109260302hmmm I see your point.
>>109257011>degoogle phone>google phoneyou fucking ape I guarantee you the firmware is the spy not the OS alone.I'm going to remove the plug in my ass by swapping the silicone skin on the metal bar.check mate
>>109260358>>degoogle phone>>google phone>you fucking ape I guarantee you the firmware is the spy not the OS alone.>I'm going to remove the plug in my ass by swapping the silicone skin on the metal bar.>check mate
I don't trust it because the maintainer is a genuine toxic nutter.EVERYONE that has come into contact with Daniel has said the same thing about him even if they previously supported his project.
>>109260523He can't be more toxic than a CIA/FBI/IDF/Mossad agent
>>109257011What illusions do you have about that honeypot?
if (You) care about privacy why not become a no phone chad?
Been daily driving it for a while now, I've had 0 issues with it.
>>109260285>I find it really weird that GrapheneOS has no way of booting the OS with no cellphone or WiFi radios turned on. Not even tuning airplane mode on and rebooting works. The default is your device is a beacon searching for connections. also, why are sensors and nearby services turned on by default after a fresh install?is the pixel even designed in a way where you can actually turn it off?i assume they force you to have the baseband box and all this enabled to even use the rest of the phone
what in the actual fuck...do we need to discourage these retarded normies from GrapheneOS jfc they just don't get it. they think GrapheneOS
>>109262031they don't comprehend that the purpose of GrapheneOS is to get the fuck away from Google not to his from Google by using Google.
>>109262031this has to be bait LOLvery fun to read, so oblivious
>>109262083I assure you it's fucking real...normies really don't understand the technology they use
>>109260100Having a headphone jack is better than using GrapheneOS. I'd love to have both.
>>109262031>>109262083>>109262046>do we have to poorly disguise shill for iphone and samsung?yeah, and chrome and brave are basedmore npc brainwash spam @ 11
>>109257051I just enter/exit airplane mode and it starts working.
>>109257054>RCS absolutely will not work with the default messaging appyou can only use RCS with google messaging regardless of the phone, even Samsung dropped their messaging app for google
>>109257025Why the hell do people do their banking on a fucking fone?There must be something I really don't understand. It's so weird to me.
>>109262905PS: Banks also have websites. If I travel and I need le bank access I just use the website?Why app for everything? App bad
>>109262905In the UK from my experience it's basically like this:>neobanks where mobile app is a hard requirement>boomer bank where you can use the website but need to authenticate each login on the mobile app anyway>boomer bank where you can use the website but certain functionality requires the mobile app anywaySo it's not so much that people choose and prefer to use their phone or the mobile app for banking, it's that in practice the options are very limited to begin with.I'd love it to be just a fully functioning "web app" that i could log into with just a passkey, but the world doesn't cater for autists like me, so I have no choice but to be a bit more pragmatic.
>>109257011If your brain capacity isn't high enough to realize that running a Google OS on a Google phone isn't going to protect you from Google... maybe its best if you do get GrapheneOS
>>109263014I will refuse to do that. I'd rather kms than using a my smartphone for that.My bank still has external devices
>>109263064Boomermaxxing with banks that do physical readers and fully functional websites is one way. I think Barclays and Nationwide are like that. My worry is they will fall in line eventually and the boomers will have to suck it up since even if they bitch and whine there will be nowhere else to go.The other way would be to look at banks that aim to support apps on custom roms like GrapheneOS, like for example Starling. Because *if* you're gonna make the app a hard requirement, I don't want that shit to be tied down to the Google/Apple ecosystem. These banks could also fall in line eventually, but they might push back against it of enough GrapheneOS users threaten to close their accounts over it.
>>109263064My bank first rolled out an app with attestation and replaced all their previous methods with it.And than later, after that was already forced on everyone, released a Windows application for it.I am planning to put that one into a VM, but since they will probably detect whether or not it is inside a VM at some point, i am not rushing it.I think they will always provide some non-phone way, but it will always be least priority.
why would i? that's peak comfy secure
>>109257011>Talk me out
>using a phone made by a US corporationlmao
>convince me to use grapheneos thread #42069>muh tired banking app not working angle>more fed shit responses
>>109263014french goycattle here, this is very true here too.Fortuneo virtual cards are only available on the app + to confirm payments you NEED the phone appBoursorama won't work without the phone app (which is also buggy af)Crédit Agricole has a mandatory app to approve online purchasesidk about the rest
>>109263530In the Netherlands they can't even pay in a pub anymore without phone, they established some weird Tikkie system. It's so weird how different countries are with payment methods. And you don't realize it until you travel there.Some countries are completely gone already and unsalvageable.Once everybody pays with a phone app even for a 1€ candy, there is no way back.
>>109262905>why the hell do people want to do contactless payments, receive live notifications and make transfers with a single tap? truly a mystery>i'm not a mentally retarded faggot btw
>>109263530>Crédit Agricole has a mandatory app to approve online purchasesno they don't. you can chose to confirm with good old SMS codes.
>>109263655because taking a coin out of your pocket and handing it over is sooooooo inconvenient
>>109262905Mainly because today verification is done via smartphone apps. Some european banks started charging fee for every verification SMS, basically forcing you into using their smartphone app, blame retarded boomers for this. For now all my bank apps work fine on GrapheneOS (only one refuses to allow fingerprint login), but if any of them stops working at all, I would cancel everything in that bank and wouldn't give a ahit about lost benefits.
>>109262873That's not what I meant, but I understand how you got there. Normies are fucking morons is all. LOL
>>109262857>headphone jackunc...
>>109260600>why not become a no phone chadI happen to have a life.
>>109263958i know, i'm sorry. it's just that i won't use Bluetooth, is all. i've been using a USB dongle lately and it's making me want to kill myself. i won't be making the same mistake again. Motorola + Graphene collab is rumoured to have a 3.5mm jack, very excite.
>>109263958>my phone should be discoverable at all times and I want my audio quality to be shit straight from a dogs assholekill yourself
>>109260197no i won't install shadow mistress yuko
>>109262857>>109263958>>109264314wait your guys pixel doesn't have a headphone jack?top lel why even live
>>109264314a sperg unc, that's rough
>>109257011They're making a motorala purpose built for grapheneOS to counter pixel enshittification.
question to Graphine users, I have someone who needs to be tracked through Apple's iPhone tracking system. Is there a way to do that on Graphine/Android? I ask here specifically because there may be a nuance to what location data I need to consent to if it's possible.
>>109257071>>109258485>>109264432>Signature: ~$1,170>Razr Fold: $1,899>Razr Ultra: $1,499
>>109258873reqd half your post.That's good opsec but nothing wrong with a swiss cheese layer to your security.
>>109264462Every pixel phone was overpriced as well, I just buy on eBay once the phone is 75% off.
This entire thread begs the question... What should you be using instead?
>>109264462>>109264480Yeah, the Pixels drop in price near-instant, so do 'rolas. Just wait a year and a half and you can get them for <350. That will give you a slightly fucked up battery and 6 years of support.
>>109264492+ the entire anti-Tensor crusade is a joke too, their performance has been up to standard since G1 unless you're a gaymer, battery life is ok since P8, they're probably the best mid-rangers on the market rn
got a pixel 9a for like £199 using the 6a rebate scheme and waited for black friday
>>109264492>>109264480when do I jump in for these discounts? I bought my 9a for 500 a few months ago, if I can do it better next time I would.
>>109260077>install glownigware>give permissions to everything>blame graphenethese are the people trying to legislate a child-proof world for everyone.
>>109262905Banks in my country force 2FA via their apps. You can't do a transaction online without 2FA. They stopped issuing physical 2FA and third-party 2FA is out of the question, of course.I hate the anti-Christ.
>>109264874>I hate the anti-Christwhites and kikesFTFY
>>109265025basedhonestly realizing in 2026 whites and kikes need to be genocided is like being 10 years early to the new hotness
>>109264649When your current phone dies buy 2-3 gens back. So if 10 is out buy 8. Etc.
>>109264462wow, buying overpriced phone that cost more than an iphone with WORSE security>very good value sars!kek
>>109257011>OS that only works on specific hardwareWhats the trap here? This shit glows.
Because there's little point in wasting time trying to break through restrictive proprietary bootloaders, GrapheneOS focuses on Pixel devices instead.
>>109257025works for me, but I don't really recommend grahpene
>>109257011Get a fairphone with /eos/ instead.
>>109257011Usecase?
>>109270640>fairphoneI was very close to paying the premium for one, but then saw all the reported issues. I imagined being abroad then the phone shitting itself. Basic functionality should work especially at that price.
I'm getting my Pixel in a matter of minutes.Plan is to keep my current android as a goyphone with banking apps and a sim card, and Graphene on the Pixel as a hobby phone for games and shit.
why are grapheneOS discord the most schizo delusional people?
>>109265025>>109266553>whitesspecifically northwestern europeans and germanix btw, slavs and meds aren't white after all, nordicists getting gaped by bbc said so
>>109272956Because the Zog likes using that reputation against the thing it's afraid of.
