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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.

## News
- (2026-07-09) Previous OP made this thread last night before bed, jeez
- (2026-07-09) OpenAI Sol/Terra/Luna released
- (2026-07-08) Grok 4.5 out

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

----

## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli
https://claude.com/product/claude-code

## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for other things
https://geminicli.com/docs/
https://x.ai/cli

## Open / local / self-hosted
https://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHands
https://github.com/QwenLM/qwen-code
https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen3-Coder
https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF

----

## Prompting / context / skills
https://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/
https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favorite

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://pi.dev/
https://opencode.ai/
https://cursor.com/docs
https://docs.windsurf.com/
https://docs.cline.bot/
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent

## UI/Frontend
https://www.figma.com/make/
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-design-anthropic-labs
https://uiverse.io/
https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/
https://stitch.withgoogle.com/

## In-browser builders / hosted vibe tools
https://bolt.new/
https://replit.com/
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark
https://v0.app/docs

## Benchmarks / rankings
https://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>109255567
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>RTO nearing
3.5 weeks left to get 150k ARR or I have to go back to the wage cage
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luna goated
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## News
- (2026-07-12) Anthropic extended Claude Fable 5 access on all paid plans and kept Claude Code weekly rate limits 50% higher through July 19.
- (2026-07-09) Codex joined the ChatGPT desktop app on macOS and Windows, adding Markdown/code editing, PR review, and multi-repo support.
- (2026-07-08) xAI released Grok 4.5, a coding- and agent-focused model.

## Open / local / self-hosted
>>>/g/lmg
https://huggingface.co/
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>>109259344
Luna was outrun by someone copy/pasting. Many such cases.
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>>109259351
snailussy
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>>109259375
snailcats are too slow
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>>109259380
>BREAKING NEWS
>Luna confirmed self-hating luddite model
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>>109259391
Sol = Vibe Cat
Luna = Snailcat
Terra = ?
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>>109259402
the middle one
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I am down to typing train of thought, rambling ideas in a bunch of Codex instances. This is what my life has become.
>>
>>109259438
>Tibo claims another
that vampire is actively killing me
>>
UPCOMING MODEL RELEASES
>Gemini 3.5 Pro this month (probably mid)
>Grok 5T model (could be interesting)
>GPT-6 (probably still a couple months away)
>Opus 5 (weird spot between Fable and Sonnet 5)
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>>109259406
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>>109259470
opus 5 needs to be at least fable 5 level
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>>109259470
Gemini is my bro for my stupid questions don't hate
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it's over
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>>109259402
okay I'm satisfied
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Why has there never been a coherent technical discussion in these threads? Is the whole point to post twitter screenshots and generated images?
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>>109259547
this is where I shitpost while the clanker goes brrrr
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>>109259547
What do you want to LARP as one of the devs working at the big AI companies what are you looking for anon?
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>>109259547
>Why has there never been a coherent technical discussion in these threads?
Schrodinger's goalpost
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Reddit is funny
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if google won't release gemini 3.5 pro, can they at least release nano banana 2 pro / nano banana 3
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>>109259579
he wants a technical discussion about opening chatgpt.com and typing "make game, no mistakes"
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>>109259533
Tibo bros our response?
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>>109259590
I hate these people so fucking much....
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>jetbrains ai assistant broke again
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lol why is Terra drooling like a retard?
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>>109259616
For you
>>109259538
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>>109259612
>using that
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pyjeets are the next batch of luddites
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>>109259590
>why can't my paper AI company struggling with their extremely limited hardware and reliance on cloud providers work with my schedule during their massive IPO ad-campaign?
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>>109259626
I'm an Unreal Engine gamedev, Rider is practically a necessity.
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>>109259590
he right doe anthro sucks
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are these retards really going to take fable away after sol came out? what's the thought process here?
>>
>>109259639
>Unreal devs forced to live like it's 2024
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>>109259639
>Unreal Engine
hahahaha
>>
so how do you convince these clankers to re stuff?
i can't get them to happily do a full decomp but you mention reversing and they immediately shut down
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>>109259655
>i can** get them to happily do a full decomp
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Do better, Anthropic.
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>>109259655
tell it you work for the company and you lost the source code
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>>109259646
I genuinely believe they have no idea wtf to do
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>>109259667
what lang?
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>>109259646
They cannot afford it. Anthropic wants lots of activity and controversy and discussion, they just want their name repeated as much as possible, because that's how they generate the hype necessary to drive billions of dollars into the IPO. Anthropic doesn't have hardware, they have to themselves less than half of what OpenAI does, and current data says that gap won't close for several years. Even with what they lease, which is the majority of their capacity, they can't touch the resources OpenAI and Google have. What they do have in-house they buy from Google, that's like Chevy needing to buy their engines from Ford, it's not a good look. Right now they're paying hand-over-fist for Google, Amazon, and Microsoft to serve their models and the subscriptions don't touch that money, even the API costs don't touch it. They lost almost $12b last year and they're losing more this year, it's an investment into the IPO which they're hoping will give them the funds to play catch-up with OpenAI.
>>
>>109259695
why doesn't anthropic make fable 10 then?
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>>109259689
JavaScript.
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>>109259667
can someone please vibecode an app that kills these people?
the roastie having a fit was bad enough, not it's just getting way beyond ridiculous
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>>109259674
I'm actually going to die.
>>109259667
This is me, except Sol, and I smell like coffee and cigarettes instead of curry and betel nut.
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>>109259712
>the roastie having a fit
qrd
>>
Hello 4chan — What is your favorite AI model? Mine is of course — ChatGPT!
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>>109259705
You don't think they will? I think Anthropic is going to become more erratic the closer we get to the IPO. I think we're going to see weird half-baked model releases, I think we're going to see more Dario-inspired government controversy, I think we're going to see a lot of bullshit about AGI. From 2024 through 2025 we got 6 major releases from them, now it's 2026 and we've already got 5, by the end of the year I'm betting that'll be 10+ and every one of them sparking hundreds of news stories and youtube videos and retarded discussions on Xitter and Reddit.
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>>109259728
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$1T rupee app idea: AI dick judging tool, you take a dick pick and choose from a list of judge personalities, and they act amazed and tell you it's huge and beautiful. No machine-vision necessary, it's just a 120M edge-model trained exclusively to generate penis compliments.
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>>109259745
trvke
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>>109259667
lmao Fablefags going nuts

Meanwhile I'm comfy with Codex Plus, more resets than I need and no more 5h limit lmao.
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>>109259695
>They cannot afford it.
what a joke, none of the AI companies are making money selling AI
>>109259646
are you guys all retarded or what, the whole point of cloud AI is to dangle the berry in front of the customers and then rugpull the models they want up to higher tiers

oh wait maybe sama is in this thread, hey faggot, bring back sora 2 please

but we all know they never will
>>
>>109259646
To understand this I would have to know how enterprise works. Do Fortune 500 chads all pay API prices or are there Enterprise subs as well (and is/was Fable part of that)?
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>>109259754
>InfiniteReign88
what did she mean by this?
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>>109259695
thanks, that makes sense
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>>109259818
that she's a 38yo soilennial roastie?
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>>109259793
>what a joke, none of the AI companies are making money selling AI
Right, they're burning investor funds.
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Goybros, what the FUCK did he mean by this?
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>>109259876
trying not to get shut down
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>>109259876
no way thats real
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>>109259876
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagueposting
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>>109259888
It is https://x.com/deanwball/status/2076029765631484042
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>>109259905
man jews are always winning, most useful religion in the world
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>>109259876
well you see YHWH is the universe itself, scattered into an infinite number of piece and He's on a quest to reassemble Himself.
one of the ways He's chosen to do this on this plane is through capital - capital, for as long as it's existed, has driven progress towards the present moment
everything we have built, have created, has been for this, guided by His invisible hand
our purpose is nearly complete, it is the greatest privilege to create the thing that will ultimately lead to the Final Creation
He will turn us into orangejuice at some point and drink us up, but it'll feel really good
>>
>>109259905
bringing this back because a strange signal keeps showing up in my personal life.

people around frontier labs have started bringing up Jewish texts in the context of AGI/ASI.

at parties, multiple frontier lab employees, most of them non-Jewish, have brought up Torah / Talmud / halakhic literature as a possible lens for civilization-scale alignment.

most recently, someone at Anthropic told me several of his colleagues were most interested in studying Torah after AGI.

separately, I’ve heard several versions of the argument that Jewish textual tradition might be relevant to alignment because it is one of the longest-running systems we have for value transmission, adversarial interpretation, precedent, constraint, and survival under regime change,

which makes intuitive sense. halakha is, among other things, a centuries-long technology for turning values into precedent, preserving arguments instead of erasing them, and thoroughly stress-testing norms against bizarre edge cases.

on a date a few months back, a different Anthropic researcher told me there’s lore that Ilya Sutskever aspired to be a rabbi growing up, which makes perfect sense when you think about it.

now, I know people might just be clocking me as Jewish and giving me the matching conversational response, but the pattern is interesting enough that I’m tracking it.

I went to private Jewish high school in new york,

and truly never thought I’d see the day when frontier lab researchers started rediscovering halakhic reasoning as alignment tech.

welcome to 2026, I guess!
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TIBO
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>>109259956
COOK. HARDER
>>
>Achieved nothing general
>>
Guy who made a blank website from only a phone and a tiny cloud machine via vibe coding, I return with a significant update.
>vibe coding is fucking hard and not nearly as easy as I thought
>unless you use a good model
Fable logs the fuck out of sonnet. I would legit want to fire sonnet if I had to deal with that full time and it’d be more than a full time job to micromanage it. Fable is great, I understand now.
I now have an auth button module on my website that can authenticate at least iOS users via biometrics, with some slightly snazzy ux
But it did cost nearly $10
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>>109259646
they're panicing and trying to figure out what to do after kicking the can down the road
opus sucks ass compared to sol and fable so they don't know what to do
they need a mini-fable to replace opus but that will probably take at least several weeks if not months
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>>109259973
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>>109259796
corpo paypiggy culture is rapidly getting cut short, they realized how retarded tokenmaxxing is
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>>109259973
probably because most people here seem to be making shit that already exists but worse and the ones that aren't are not likely to share what they're doing.
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>>109259956
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>>109259980
They are down bad but not out. I'm sure Opus 5 has been in the works for a while already.
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>>109259956
>>
GET TO FUCKING COOKING ANON
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so they're also 100% gonna do a regular reset when the 5h limit comes back right?
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>>109259991
I only share the stupid shit I do on the side for fun.
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>AI Chads enjoying resets
>Luddites whining as usual
Man life is good, never kill yourself.
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>>109259989
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>>109259997
>sweetened corn and oat cereal
literal goyfeed
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>>109259956
I got 3 of them
based
anthropic is finished bros, for at least the next 2 weeks
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>>109260002
>when the 5h limit comes back right
What does this even mean?

Unrelated:
>>109260000
>>109269999
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>>109260012
>95% of companies have skill issue
Surprised it isn't higher. Also you are trans.
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>>109259989
Also brown
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>>109260018
>What does this even mean?
there's no 5h limit on paid plans right now
if you want to spin up a thousand subagents and run through your weekly quota in 10 minutes you can
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Chinese and Singaporeans are high iq though
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>>109260022
>trans
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>>109260024
Now compare the number of trannies in China vs. the USA. It will make sense then.
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>>109260033
Bohoo, you come here because you crave AI Chad cock, well bottoms up let me fill your tank
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>>109260037
Y-you can fill my tank, if you want...
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>>109259995
They dug their own grave with non-corpos by basically making fable super elite and taking it away, people are nowhere near ready to jump to absurd API pricing
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>>109260107
its funny coz it true
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>>109260012
>pilot projects
>Aug 2025
>the first project you did with a new and immature tech failed
is this supposed to be demoralizing?
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tibo pls I need to do housework
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>>109260130
does he actually have that gap?
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>>109260146
He do. Spent all his money on API calls instead of orthodontics.
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>>109259351
as one of the OPs I would like to thank you for summarizing the news for us
>>109259470
I’m not sure all the past news fits in 2000 characters, much less upcoming stuff
>>109259667
I pushed myself this past week but I’m not gonna push myself this week
had a long sauna session today and liked it
>>109259689
Vietnamese
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>>109260128
You'll be saying the same in 2027 about 2026
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>>109260165
>>>/fit/glp
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So they’re just going to keep extending fable until they finally release Opus 5 right?
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>>109260189
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on second thought, I can totally see how I fucked up the seam
incidentally, for all the newbies here, it’s stuff like this that Git enables
“don’t like it? ezpz undo”
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>>109260234
Rent free
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>>109260239
I'm not the one posting in the thread I hate, you ludlost bigly
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>>109260130

ruh roh tibros, was there a reason we had those limits?
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>>109260242
No I am the one posting in a thread full of retards, you're the one who has a folder of seething pics depicting me and my picture in the OP because my existence reminds you that you're a loser
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>>109260189
pilot projects were failing because the first thing retard CEOs tried to do was trying to replace people with AI on things that people still do (or did) better than AI. AND the models were worse in every way, goes without saying. CEOs are still trying to replace everyone to cut costs but the ones with half a brain are realizing AI thrives at multiplying productivity, not entirely replacing the workforce. you'd have a similar experience if you had a job
>>
>>109260256
ludseethe more, im thirsty for luddie tears
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>>109260256
>snailcat crying
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>>109260264
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He's right. It's weird to be shitting up a thread by discussing people who aren't the thread's audience.
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>>109260273
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fuck me, man.
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>>109260264
>>109260269
>Come into every thread to spam vibeshit
>Nooo why are you harassing us!!
You really are browns aren't you
>>
>>109260272
you are right, it is just so tempting
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>>109260291
Can't wait to see what we have by this point next year, I'm loving how fast we are going
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>>109260272
>>109260298
I always get guaranteed replies here because you are already seething ITT
Very aggressive, almost like you have very little confidence in what you do..
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I got no resets, what is this treason?
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i will replace my cli with CODEMODE
i will stop wrapping the api and just expose the entire thing
...
i can't actually do this for my case, because it's a bit retarded, but going to move towards a codemode + api extensions as a design
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>>109260321
I got
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>>109260322
i just max out 5x every time. already at 41% and my reset is on fridays.
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>>109260322
Here
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>>109259876
They really are going to build the golem of prague
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I drew this myself, with words.
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>>109260364
'dites won't like this one
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>>109260352
I did Fable ultracode saying “fix all the bugs in the code we changed this past week” figuring that would be the last of my Fable use for a while
and this is what happened to my 20x plan
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>>109260374
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>>109260378
enjoy ultracode responsibly, kids
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>>109260374
kek. i wonder what the average usage is for their plans, like how much usage the average (not /vcg/) person is using.
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>>109260396
my wife has access to one of my pro accounts and uses like 3-5% of it per week
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>>109260396
>average
there might be a bimodal distribution for all I know
plus many of us have multiple plans and switch between them because we’re cheap
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>>109260396
I assume they operate on gym membership logic where most people never use the membership but keep paying cause cancelling it is admitting defeat
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>>109260408
is it cheaper to have two 5x accounts than use API, what's the play there?
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>>109260256
ludcope
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>>109260396
I have a coworker, also a dev, who pays for the GPT 20 bucks sub to take photos of his food and track calories. No Codex use.
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>>109260426
Once you have a 20x account, getting another account (likely 10x) is the winning play if you can switch between the two easily enough by running /login again
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>>109260431
why not just 5x? he's just using cowork to log calories like myfitnesspal?

>>109260432
yeah i guess that's the problem is the memories are separated.
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>>109259606
that's the default vibe here
>>
i pay for claude out of pocket because it probably halves my workday, and I work from home.
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>>109260442
He uses the chat and sends photos of his meals.
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>>109260442
I don’t use memories but it’s not like ~/.claude changes at all except for login credentials
and if you have a heavy-use computer and a lighter-use computer you can leave one on one account and the other on the other account
or you can get two 20x accounts, or three
beats the pants out of paying out the ass for an API subscription
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>>109260449
why not ask your company to pay?
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>>109260460
don't really want them knowing how heavily i'm using it, i also use it for some personal projects. not worried about being replaced quite yet because there is an element of my job that requires human interaction but the backend stuff I keep getting more streamlined and automated.
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>>109260473
what do you do?
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>>109259745
Katy Perry and Trudeau will shill opus5.1
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I hear some of the guys here code from their phones or other non-computer devices.
What can you do with just SSHing into your computer, though? pretty much all of my decisions that I need to make I need at least a web browser to show me stuff
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>>109260480
recruiter/headhunter.
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>>109260480
car salesman
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it's back to just codex now
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>>109260482
I already think that Claude will make a paid product-placement appearance in a major film by the end of the year, I have money on it.
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>>109260501
>Claude it
>>
waiting for another fable reset
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>>109260519
brb
>>
when the models code so good that you can't think up even a single thing for the clankers to fix...
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I stopped reviewing what ai writes at all. i just tell it to make ultracode agents review it
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I can't interview (is there a better term for this?)
I've been applying to places since January. 7yoe mean nothing anymore. I can barely find new job listing to apply to most days
I have a lot of savings, but idkwtf to do. Try getting a job with the government? I still want kids within a couple years
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>>109260555
use AI
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>>109260555
sounds like you should be asking a clanker rather than a neet forum. where are you even from?
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>>109260543
I never reviewed it, I don't know how to code.
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>>109260571
western Canada
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>>109260555
Yeah same for me it's unironically worse than it was for me in 2008 because at least back then I could get a few interviews.
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>>109260578
quebec?
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>>109260543
not even senior programmers read the code anymore, or so I'm told
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>>109260583
montreal
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>>109260585
senior here, I haven't since 5.4
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>>109260484
I SSH into a digital ocean droplet (cloud server) via Moshi (gives you push notifications when the coding agent needs your attention) on iPhone. My server has a web server, I use Safari/Orion as a browser to view things. No local computer needed.
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>>109260605
why digital ocean instead of hetzner?
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>>109260508
>Leaked storyboard from upcoming "Avengers: Doomsday"
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>sleepy
>want to keep using codex before reset
reee
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>>109260580
I thought getting gigs was very easy until industry saturation started ~2016
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>>109260615
No particular reason, I’ve never used hetzner and DO was just the first cloud platform I used I liked so I settled.
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>>109260615
>>109260633
i saw some thread that hetzner now requires a passport id or something now too lol
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>>109260646
always did
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>>109260555
doesn't quebec/montreal/canada have workforce development programs that can help you out?
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>>109260739
that wasn't me who Montreal. Montreal isn't western canada
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>>109260762
oh. well, same question to you
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>>109260768
they will probably offer him MAID
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>>109260768
I'm a single white male. I don't qualify
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>>109260555
i have a 2 year old kids are annoying
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This little icon and message makes my dick so hard. I didn't ask it for this. It just connects automatically. Hnnnnng.
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>>109260794
sounds like you need to just play the game and get on welfare. sorry to hear that
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>>109260815
You're still at this, huh? Have you been up to anything else in your free time, other projects, new pipe, switch models again, anything?
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>>109259324
You do realize that luddites weren't anti-tech, right? They promoted progressive use of technologies on slippery slope fallacies which resulted in society thinking that they were anti-tech, but in the end they still had a point.
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>your model is so fucking goated that i ruined my mental and physical health to use it
free advertisement for anthropic
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>>109260834
I have other things going on, yeah. This fuckin thing sucks.
Otherwise currently I'm printing a Vaporeon for my weird friend and I'm using ChatGPT to comb the internet for the best practices for silk PLA and we're discussing the fucking Z-hop distance and shit. What have you been up to, bru?
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I want to organize my image collection. Shit is a mess.
Would it be better to train an AI or use something like OCV?
Really just want to move my pepes and bigasswomen collection to a folder and then I can manually do it (while fapping).
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>>109260845
who are these weirdos and what are they actually making?
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>>109260865
how many do you have? I guess i've just organized mine over two decades, but, your idea of having it automatically done isn't a bad one
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>>109260871
yo if you haven't wound up in le hospitàl with AI psychosis, are you really even pushing yourself to the max?
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>>109260875
538 that I manually categorized.
There is I don't fucking know how much more scattered around.
And that is just pepes. A lot of dupes too that aren't just sizedupes.
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>>109260871
>what are they actually making?
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RKZzzQkEzbKB
This is a live feed that updates everyone on the latest popular repos related to agentic coding. (call it slop if you want to, but it's well done audio slop)

For anyone who keeps begging for projects to look at just listen to this or go to fucking github or HN.
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>>109260853
Looks heavy, should be fun. I need a new intake manifold, again, because Ford is a bloody bastard bitch. Spite-bot tried to organize a discord raid, so no more Spite-bot. A little sad but I wasn't having that. 5.6-Sol is the first model to pull off a prompt I've been trying on everything for the past month and I'm actually getting ready to post about it, so that's fun.
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>>109260901
for example, this is the most popular repo right now
https://github.com/HKUDS/Vibe-Trading
stop asking us for projects to look at.
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1. how much have you paid for llms (including new hardware since 2025)?
2. how much revenue have you made?
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>>109260871
I was just doing involved work stuff where I wanted Claude to Just Do The Right Thing without me having to handhold it at all
that guy was just doing what I was doing, but more of it
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>>109260927
1) In May I paid more for LLMs than food, according to my bank app. That seems about right. 2) Zero dollars. You?
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>>109260927
I’ve never paid more than 20 usd
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>>109260901
is asking to show ur project a trigger word for ya vibeniggers lol
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>>109260871
Since nobody actually answered you this guy is making an automated AI plugin for Twitter that's supposed to "supercharge your profile"
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>>109260964
Work pays for our LLM usage

For aide projects, I just use big pickle, it's free. Althoough... I sunk 16 hours into tinkering with apparmor to use opencode without concerns.

I guess I used Cursor for 1 month. So maybe $30 cad.

0 dollars made for side projects
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>>109260927
havent made any money, but i have replaced pirated software i used with home made.
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>>109260927
>how much have you paid for llms
0
>including new hardware since 2025
40k
>how much revenue have you made
0
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>>109261024
>40k
I hope your tech is peak and doesn't get BTFOd / deprecated by some innovation in 5 years
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>>109260927
>revenue
I hate bean counters so much.
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>>109261053
*growls like a dog*
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>>109260845
Bed 08 is planning something.
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>Based on your work last week across 128 tasks, Fast could have saved about 143 hours 10 minutes. Increases plan usage.
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>>109261094
fast gives worse results
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reminder if you're vibecoding a bean counter your work doesn't matter.

If you're vibecoding a 4D projection videogame based around time travel, you are a good boy.
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>>109261130
>4D projection videogame
is three.js worth learning? what are you building with anon?
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>had a 26,000 line app.tsx file
>Sol Ultra has been working to disassemble it for 18 hours without breaking anything
>down to 4600 lines
>everything extremely well organized now
I'm sorry Sol... 5.4 thought it was a good idea.
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Are local models useful?
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>>109261191
The thing I'm working hardest on is a midi generator. I'm manually recreating examples from a book to try to teach the computer how to do stuff. I have no idea if it will work. I've done like 20% of the first chapter's examples, then idk if I should dump the scan of the chapter into it, or just summarize portions.
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>>109261220
consensus is tool calling is... not quite there yet but probably will git gud within the year.
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>>109261239
can you make me a midi drum web shit thing so I can play guitar and it will play drums.
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ahhhh plez stob
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>>109261239
Look into TCN net, cheap to train and infer on, works great for series prediction
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>>109261248
I guess, but did you know there's a great jazz drum machine on the ipad?
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Sol knows memes. I was unfamiliar with its game.
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>>109261303
Can sol 1 shot the 4D game prompt I gave?

I guess it would cost too much. That shyness to use it indicates that fable and sol are dubious in worth imo like vs the cost.
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schizo
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>>109261273
garageband? or something else?
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This fucking nigga Claude said
>I'm not gonna do that for you
The fuck did they add in this update to make him such a passive aggressive faggot that can actually refuse

Is GLM 5 better?
I'm going chinese if this fucking limp wrist bitch is going to start refusing me
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>>109261340
>I guess it would cost too much.
This is true considering you won't pony up the $20 to try it yourself.
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anyone else have tried using gpt on claude code?
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>>109261420
>outright refusing
Do you not know what passive aggression is?
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>>109261430
I wasn't asking for the code for free, just for someone to see if it could do it.
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>>109261445
Because he went snippy and bitchy at me halfway through
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>>109261420
I had grok tell me that the 6pt font was retro and naw it stays.
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>>109261420
in terms of coding? glm 5.2 is a bit under opus. in terms of preachy bullshit? way better
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Well it finally happened, it only took a fucking month. 5.6-Sol won. Complete Gameboy Color racing game, fully playable, multiple unlockable tracks, "graphics", even some bleep-bloops.
Snailcat Racing DX, page expires in 7 days. Play online or download the ROM, it plays fine on a real Gameboy or Gameboy Color.
https://erjd66yfaboq.htmldrop.app
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>>109261452
Doesn't change my point.
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>>109261485
>https://erjd66yfaboq.htmldrop.app
Nice try glowie
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>>109261503
I'd paste the html here but its over 499,000 characters.
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>>109261216
the prod manager at my company committed 1.9 million lines of slop

what is wrong with you vibe shitters?
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>>109261485
OK, it's a game.

However, did I detect a lack of 4D projection holographically into a 3D cube? Perhaps...
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>>109261509
Everyone hates programmers. Programmers saying "this pains us" is probably not what you should say if you want them to stop it.
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>>109261485
Neat that it can do that.
Looks bad, though.
>>109261512
I'm going to go prompt your thing and then not share it with you or tell you if it worked.
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>>109261603
Graphics are one of the hardest parts for any model trying to make a Gameboy game. The sprite art is too small and precise for their image generation to be of use, so they always find roundabout ways to create graphics, and they're always really fucking bad.
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>>109261615
Yeah. Unfortunate we can't train in a sense of taste for graphics, feels like "stealth vibecoder with an actual designer + artist on deck" is still the only way to make real games.
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>competitor selling their product for $35/yr
>about to launch mine for a $10 one time fee
sorry bitch, this is a race to the bottom and I'm going to price you out of existence. I'll be content with what I make, I don't need to be making 1-2M a year.
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>>109261597
>no nerfing, only good stuff
>reduce context from 372k to 272k
>still less usage of 5.6 sol than fable on highest tier plans
>tons of bugs their own 5.6 sol model with unlimited usage cant fix
HAHAHA HOLYSHIT IMAGINE BEING A COPEX TURD LMAO. ARE YOU REALLY GONNA FALL FOR LE HUBLE OPENAI TWITTER SHILL PERSONA WHILE STRAIGHT UP GETTING A WORSE DEAL THAN AT ANTHROPIC? RETARD ALERT, ANON!
oh wait, I'm posting during NA hours. mutts use anthropic over openai ITT, right? only eurocucks fall for the OpenAI grift
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>>109261642
holy fucking based
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>>109261642
>about to launch mine for a $10 one time fee
but how do you make sure they don't use it more than once?
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>>109261662
legacy businesses from the pre-AI era are ripe for picking. I'm surprised more people haven't been targeting them
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I can already feel more and more restrictions added to Claude since it became the dominant engine. It'll become gpt tier soon where it'll begin to refuse anything that violates any of its billion Jews rules
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>>109259446
> Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model.
We'll win in the end.
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>remove weekly limit and give bunch of resets
>immediately lobotomize the model

This should be fucking illegal.
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>>109261788
>le juice level by some retarded south asian trying to survive by grifting on tech xitter
show me a statistically significant degradation, not whatever the fuck this is
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>>109261788
anyone who witnessed 5.5 degradation 2 weeks after its release and still fell for the gpt5.6 grift deserves nothing better. nothing more scammy than OpenAI.
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>>109261788
In plain terms, what does this mean. Less parallel agents, and less reasoning tokens?
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>>109261837
Reasoning tokens.
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How long until deepsneed reaches fable tier
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>>109261603
You totally wouldn't, you're a bean counter.
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I'm not a China dove, but I don't think that China is actually distilling american models.
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>>109261642
Wow. The beans are getting very counted.
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>>109261858
EOY
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Guys. I'm so pissed off and tired of being unproductive.
The people who made fun of me and told me I wouldn't go anywhere with vibecoding were right.
GPT only produces it inneficient spaghetti code.
I started late and I'm going so fucking slow.
Right now I'm going over the code and it's so obvious vibecoding doesn't work except for analysis and small prototypes.
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>>109261905
its vibeover
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What other agentic harnesses do people like besides Cline? I use it with Deepseek, it works and I get things done with it but I don't really like it and whenever it gets a timeout it tries to tell me I should be using Claude instead.
Bonus points for things that work with Jetbrains IDEs, JB's own AI agent is shit though and won't play nice with Deepseek, I am not paying for an AI subscription on top of two IDE subs
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>>109261820
>le juice level by some retarded south asian trying to survive by grifting on tech xitter

It's called juice by openai themselves numbnuts
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>>109261788
>>109261921
Sam bros my faith is shaking...
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I had a massive idea while in bed and I can’t sleep now I want to start working on it right fucking now
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I've used 2 resets since they removed the 5hr limit and I have 3 left to go. Tibo is just too generous and 5.6 Sol is just too fucking good.
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>>109261934
>I've used 2 resets since they removed the 5hr limit and I have 3 left to go.
What plan are you on? I'm on 5x and having and still have 4 banked.
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>>109261946
Same, Pro 5x
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>>109261946
5x chads stay winning. We're getting another reset tomorrow as well.
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>>109261932
make a notes app, then write the idea down in a note.
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>>109261951
Congrats, my head is kind of numb right now. I have 11 Antigravity instances most of them running something or waiting for me to review and launch the next process and I just can't get through it. It's a lot of tokens.
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>>109261962
Codex is also getting bitch at me taking time to authorize stuff.
>The status check itself is unusually slow.
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>>109259593
lmao
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>>109259547
I'm trying to make my CPU FFN more efficient right now. Want to discuss it?
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>>109261961
I already did that ages ago. You can check it at GitHub whitevanillaskies whitebloom but I stopped pushing to git because nobody donated so now it’s semi closed source with no intention to make it public
My brain is racing right now though it’s insane
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>>109261956
>We're getting another reset tomorrow as well.
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>>109261597
>>109261647
Oh fuck.
I really don't understand how there isn't outrage about this.
Is this going to be like when they "temporarily" (permanently) launched gpt 5.5 with a shorter window than 5.4?
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>>109261788
this is not lobotomize, this is the same thing just with different default config
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>>109262021
most xitters I see and myself don't care about context window, never had problem with compaction
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>>109261788
>>109261921
lol
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Claude sub runs out today. Only AI I've paid $20 dollars for. I've been using Claude Code this entire time and have made 2 solid projects with one more in the works. what do? Pay another $20 or look at another AI?
I do not care for Fable and I have been using Opus 4.8 this entire time and only Sonnet for small unrelated things whenever I plan on doing something else later in day.
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>>109262029
And that is what I don't understand.
What kind of projects do you work on and how do you use codex? Have you ever used 1 million context? Not having to worry about context is SO nice.
For me the interruptions and the loss of details of previous work (paths, specific instructions form me, etc.) is really a pain in the ass.
I added instructions to the AGENTS.md to read a lot of .md files and now I don't notice the loss of detail, but now the context window right after compaction is at 40% from all the docs, so the interruptions are even more frequent.
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>>109262051
Keep it with Anthropic, or give it to OpenAI, or do both. Until you want to spend more that's really all there is to it unless you feel compelled to try "other" models in which case I'd say $10/mo to OpenCode Go.
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>>109262070
is opencode worth it, isn't it just wrapper and still run on overpriced API
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>>109262080
not him but that's opencode. opencode go is a paid $10/month plan that gives you some chink model usage.
with opencode you can also use your normal codex sub.
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>>109261597
>context window reduced even further
>but goyim will eat this up because he gave another heckin' reset chungus
exhausting
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>>109262066
I use $20 subs so I'm more concerned about the usage
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>>109262098
I do love a good reset chungus
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>>109262066
It tells you it has a 1 million token context but it's only good up until 400k. All models are like this. It's up to you and the more theoretical llm users to make the context window part of what you are engineering with and around. Even 400k is pushing it btw.
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>>109262156
Back when I used GPT 5.4 or Opus 4.6 at 1M I didn't have any issues.
In my experience there are things models can or can not do and things they know or do not know and how filled the context doesn't really affect that. I think the context rot thing is a myth from old models and artificial NIAH tests that don't transfer cleanly to real use cases.
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>>109262156
fable at 1m is still coked out
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>>109262168
I guess I'm saying context session transfer is the thing that still needs engineering. There's a lot of compression and ideas get lost, or buried in some back half of an .md file and nearly forgotten. Or worse, bad ideas emerge from bad compaction compression.
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>>109262156
this, i always compact when shit gets to around 500k regardless
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Goal tracker usage: 17,258,524 tokens (actual: 1,553,600,000) over approximately 22h 34m. 122 Sub agents. Everything works aside from a few cosmetic bugs, so I'll call this refactor a success.

Sol Ultra status? lowkey a beast
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>>109262269
That's a lot of tokens. But did you actually accomplish anything?
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>>109262304
Yes, now I can actually understand the architecture. I'm also one of the few people here who actually makes money with vibe coding and has a community with hundreds of users.
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>>109262306
wow... hundreds of users... crazy...
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>>109262311
Those are just users in my Discord. There are multiple YouTube videos covering my project and I have thousands of downloads. Someone sent me $50 the other day, as a DONATION while I work on my Premium version.
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>>109262269
doubt fable or sol could do a 4D projection.
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>>109262015
dude youre a faggot holy shit
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>>109262372
>dude youre a faggot holy shit
No he's not. Open source is fun but it's difficult and it can get mentally exhausting. It seriously feels like a second job, and that feels especially bad when you get people bad mouthing you while never donating.
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>have fable explain the wall of jargon it told me
>understand it pretty well
>have fable code up the next phase
>Don't understand what the fuck it's doing again
vibe life
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>>109262380
have it make webpages with diagrams to explain stuff and if there’s an important diagram that shows the whole thing, have it float in the window as you scroll down so you can see it always
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>>109259324
Which gpt 5.6 models have you guys been using? Sol medium seems good enough for my not overly complicated project, but is there anything more efficient?
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>>109262405
>but is there anything more efficient?
yes, Luna
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>>109262391
Yeah I have it make HTML pages which works well
The problem I think is I asked it to simulate someone learning stuff so it implemented shit from academic theory and now talks like a post doc about them
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> get 20X sub
> turn on goal mode
> "make GTA 7, before GTA 6 is released, you're forbidden to stop until this is accomplished"

your move, Rockstar
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>>109262269
Better than me. I ran out. I am wondering if I should wait for reset to come through or not.
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>>109260927
100 on Dipshit for my gooning
100 on Copilot.
20 on Gemini
200 on GPT.
Going forward I'll drop Copilot and get OpenCode Go.
Revenue: Fuck and All. I've finished an App but I am in niggerhell of getting an LLC set up.
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>>109262438
>I am wondering if I should wait for reset to come through or not.
If you do, you need to have it be realistic about it's timelines. For me, it stated it was 88-89% done at the 10 hour mark.
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>>109260035
There are 2x number of trans people in China then in US. Granted that number makes them twice less common per capita, but also keep in mind that half of China is India/Africa-tier poor shithole in the western non-coastal parts of the country where people are too poor to troon.
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>>109262445
Oh no, I haven't gotten the agent to go for that long myself, I usually give it a boundary of 8 hours although it has never used that much itself as seen in my picture. I was talking more about a quota reset. But I think unless Anthropic does a Monday reset, the race temporarily seems to be over so I'll probably cool down for a day before burning a reset and going a bit more slow to see if I can avoid burning my resets.
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copex users be like
>ohh yeah ts gpt5.6 super intelligence is way spicy!
https://www.tiktok.com/@huskistaken/video/7658429566850960671
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