>>109261894
so anima was a meme after all?
never tried it personally, still using some illustrations mix.

>>109261902
yeah. nothing but Lora stacking garbage. krea2 is much better

>>109261869
>>109261893
you could've found definitive proof outside of "look at what this person said" without any elaboration of their settings but you have not

>>109261902
>so anima was a meme after all?
what makes you say that?

>>109261906
krea2 and anima have different usecases wake me up when it has danbooru tuned into it

>>109261912
just train a Lora until someone does :)

>>109261894
badfeet edition.

man, krea 2 is such dogshit

>>109261912
please just fuck off already. even the collage is more garbage than normal because you had to hurry and get your schizo walls in the OP. bring us proof anima can be fine tuned properly or shut the fuck up already

>>109261902
anima is way better, but some guy with a 5090 and autism doesn't have any artistic discernment and is really impressed by the simply incompetent swill hose krea 2.

>>109261914
why would i when anima already has it, a bunch of community loras and tunes, and is six times smaller

>>109261922
you seem to misunderstand the burden of proof. the claim that it "forgets" has yet to be proven and in fact was disproven awhile ago.
>because you had to hurry and get your schizo walls in the OP
no idea what your crying about here desu
also
>thinking everyone is the same poster
kek

>>109261922
krea 2 sucks so hard it's shocking.

Just use Flux Klein 9B. Here's an old gen. I'm busy with other tasks rn, specifically, I'm reordering the LXX to use with my XTEINK 4. I will also be adding some chapter links to speed up finding verses.

>>109261933
the feet are extremely ugly and look like the gnome logo. The same autism feeds both.

I don't think Krea2 is bad but clearly the claim that its dethroned Anima is nonsense keked.

>>109261902
anima has nlp but I find the styles lacking to ill finetunes. anima is kind of jank at img2img and upscaling too. more of a tradeoff

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>>109261935
gen.

>>109261922
>even the collage is more garbage than normal because you had to hurry and get your schizo walls in the OP.
Why would you even bring this up if the last bake also had "schizo walls" included holy lellllll

Just wondering, did ani (Julien) create anima?

he wishes

>>109261912
seen gens and they look the same as years ago, nothing groundbreaking.

>>109261955
>spatial prompting
>text
>16ch vae
>"nothing groundbreaking"
which other model has all that and danbooru

why try to disprove the OP is a schizo bad faith retard that religiously lies about the boys he obsesses over? we have four years of archives with his mental illness on full display plus the off topic drama faggotry already itt

>>109261953
I don't think it would be as bad as what we got from turdrustled

>>109261963
none of those really matter to the slopper desu. they could use pony shit and still be happy

>>109261963
there are XL models that have the 16ch vae and anima text is shitty

>>109261966
Meant for >>109261947

>>109261966
so instead of posting proof you are going to continue to cry and repeat disses originally aimed at you? why do you continue to lie tho? you couldve posted proof by now but you have not.

>>109261976
XL can't into spatial prompting nor text at all and all the 16ch variants are unironically dead

you can tell CJ is having a bad go of it when he has to post as multiple different anons defending himself

>>109261976
>16ch vae
They are either undertrained or fried
>anima text is shitty
Yes but it still mogs SDXL's text by a huge margin

Who is CJ? Is that your bull?

Base illustrious and noob were so fucking unstable and schizo that literally any finetuning at all, on any dataset, would stabilize the model and improve it. Anima, in comparison, is so well-trained and converged that the overall quality matches or surpasses the best SDXL finetunes despite it being a raw base model.

tdrusell should unironically have made anima base kind of shit on purpose so that any retard can do a small finetune and see the model instantly improve and feel good about himself.

Regardless there are still good anima finetunes: AnimaYume, samAnima, RDBT, AAAnima, the official Turbo and Aesthetic 1.0b.
>but most of those are slop
so same as sdxl then

>>109261903
Thanks for posting an actual collage instead of faggot OP who clearly rushed the thread to stir more schizo drama.

>>109261971
His "plan" was "do the exact same thing but with a different license". You notice how no one brings up Anima's license anymore and instead "anon" just repeats the disproven "catastrophic forgetting" line? Strange isn't it.

>>109261989
>>109261993
Be careful, he'll start calling you by some random name and accusing you of being a shizo.

>>109261981
>XL can't into spatial prompting nor text at all and all the 16ch variants are unironically dead
holy shit lmao what is regional prompting then retard? sdxl can do very little text but text doesn't even matter because you can add it in post and not worry about it fucking up which anima still does. as for the last point, anima is also a dead model lol. the aesthetic fine-tune russ made is worse than base and the retard added pony tags ffs

>>109261997
if he started now he could just use cosmos 3 without using a shitty adapter and people can train the text encoder. it's also apache2 instead of the retarded Nvidia licence

>>109262002
>holy shit lmao what is regional prompting then retard?
anima doesnt need that tooling to know its lefts from its rights therefore it is better its pretty simple
>you can add it in post
you can also just draw instead :)
>anima is also a dead model lol.
in what world is 700k downloads dead?

>>109261993
>AnimaYume, samAnima, RDBT, AAAnima, the official Turbo and Aesthetic 1.0b.
all of these are worse than base. what is wrong with your eyes?

>>109261993
>tdrusell should unironically have made anima base kind of shit on purpose so that any retard can do a small finetune and see the model instantly improve and feel good about himself.
desu all you have to do is train a style you like into it. it takes to them really well and does make you feel good about yourself heh

>>109261966
I like how it went from proving something about a model to proving something about an anon. You should more subtly troll next time instead of being so overt.

>>109262013
>anima doesnt need that tooling
yeah it just needs a Lora tower to get dp poses correctly

>you can also just draw instead :)
you have to type text you would have anyways. Text in images is literally the same as a prompt box except you don't have to wait for it to finish rendering and you can change the font

>in what world is 700k downloads dead?
isn't Ill at 3mil or something?

>>109262033
it's hard to believe someone that lies. nuts, I know

Animabros need to implement anima support that works well in ai-toolkit, tdrussell already commented in the pr previously, then more people will train on the model instead of having to fuck around with dogshit UIs of other training frontneds which unlike ai toolkit most of the time dont have day 0/1 support for a lot of newest models.

https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit/issues/791

>>109261851
>>109261871
These are fire post more

>>109262017
If you're not using artists, certain categories of concepts bias anima base very strongly towards a (low quality:3) art style. Any of the aesthetic tunes power straight through that bias and give you something that looks reasonably good by default. They aren't universally worse than base.

samAnima is for realism and is objectively much better than base for that
Turbo is for genning fast as fuck and is honestly pretty solid in it's own right.

retard

>>109262039
I don't care. give me an anime fine-tune of krea instead

>>109262039
>tdrussell already commented in the pr previously
*I meant he made a comment in the pr, not that he said what I said afterwards there.

>>109262034
>yeah it just needs a Lora tower to get dp poses correctly
post your prompt and settings and maybe anon will help you get the pose. remember you can use both tags and NLP at the same time
>Text in images is literally the same as a prompt box except you don't have to wait for it to finish rendering and you can change the font
now try to make the text look like it's part of the images and not photoshopped on
>isn't Ill at 3mil or something?
i'd imagine so considering its been out for over a year compared to two months since anima release

>>109262044
destroying the wide knowledge of krea by distilling it into anima and sloppifying anima with the krea images. that idea cant be much worse.

>>109262053
>that idea cant be much worse.
Calculate how much it would cost to tune Krea on Danbooru lol

>>109262043
bro, the finetunes mangle the styles. again, what the fuck is wrong with your eyes? post an image already, you have been jerking these shitty models off the past two threads and still haven't posted an image from any of these. for someone that demands proof, you sure don't like to bring any to the table

>>109262056
krea is quite big while being slopped in composition, slopped in overcontrasted colors, expressionless faces by default and heavy bias towards them, very wide but uncanny valley ip knowledge, dog shit vae which instantly clips all of its wings for any big future big tune

nobody sane will finetune krea.

>>109262048
>post your prompt and settings and maybe anon will help you get the pose. remember you can use both tags and NLP at the same time
anon, you are talking to me like I haven't used the model before. this is something many anons found out and either just felt with it, moved back to I'll or moved on to krea.

>now try to make the text look like it's part of the images and not photoshopped on
anima looks like a bad shoop with text so I don't see the argument here

>i'd imagine so considering its been out for over a year compared to two months since anima release
people moved on already. barely a peep about it on Reddit and you are the only anon spamming it here

>>109262039
Doesn't matter. Most illustrious trainers don't know ai toolkit and use sd-scripts-based trainers instead anyway. Also ai toolkit just uses the diffusers implementation under the hood, which is what onetrainer uses

>>109262071
>dog shit vae
>same vae as anima
what did he mean by this?

>>109262078
A lot of people use ai-toolkit, it would bring more loras to anima, thats the point.

Anyway, whats the best trainer with best defaults if i want to train a style lora of anima?

>>109262057
>the finetunes mangle the styles
That's the whole fucking point, it biases the model very strongly to a "high quality" style. The base model will ALWAYS be better than any aesthetic finetune for artist styles.

Here's a fun experiment for you: take anima aesthetic 1.0b, WAI SDXL, Janku Noob, and whatever other SDXL shitmix you like, and compare artist tags. Tell me which of these mangles styles the least.

>>109262082
exactly, anima also doesnt tune too well either

>>109262089
noob is pretty good at it and has more styles so I don't see your point

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>>109262042
Ok. I am using this guy's lora:
https://civitai.red/models/588789/yoshitaka-amano-final-fantasy-style-for-anima-pony-il-krea-2?modelVersionId=3076044
Unfortunately it seems a little bit fried so you get wonky fingers on more seeds than I would like.
Otherwise it's cool.

>>109262086
for anima*

>>109262086
People who use ai toolkit mostly use realism models, i don't think it would work the way you think

>>109262086
>A lot of people use ai-toolkit, it would bring more loras to anima, thats the point
but I don't want to be stuck with a model that can't fine-tune well

>>109262097
>People who use ai toolkit mostly use realism models
because it mostly doesnt support anime models lol

>>109262039
Day one support is meaningless when the trainer is buggy, poorly optimized, and intended for runpods.

>>109262101
Yeah, so it wouldn't "bring more loras to anima", people who care about anime models already use sd-scripts

just let it die kid. it's over

>>109262102
works for me

>>109262104
if someone already has ai-toolkit fully set up, with datasets already ready and lodead, and knows how to use the frontned, suddenly having an anima dropdown option to train it would be a good gateway for people to try it out instead of having to look into cli based trainers or shittier ui trainers where you have to re-learn everything before training the model

>>109262115
Like i said, most people who use ai-toolkit only care about realism models, having an anime model selection wouldn't suddenly make most of those people want to train a lora for anima and wouldn't "bring more loras to anima"

>2026
>still no consistent output
not taking our jobs any time soon

>>109262095
Yoshitaka Amano's artstyle is so distinctive
I'm a bit afraid to try Krea 2 rn due to hardware and having to use comfy but I'll eventually try it lol

>>109262091
why do you keep repeating this without any proof tho?

>>109262094
Noob was not merely an aesthetic tune

>>109262153
Why are you keep replying to bait though

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>>109262174
it's not bait it's a fud campaign

>>109262039
OneTrainer is the newfags way. diffusion-pipe while autistic is not impermeable

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>>109262144
It's a pretty unique kind of kino. Lamentable that it took so long for me to discover him.
Don't be afraid of Krea2, it's an 8-step distill, runs reasonably lightweight for its size

What should I generate?

>>109262188
2girls

>>109262036
humerus.

>>109262188
1girl, asian, peace sign, in case style

>>109262180
no way. short humerus again.

>>109262188
a foid with a short humerus.

is a short humerus related to fetal alcoholism?

>Yes, a short fetal humerus can be associated with fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASD), including fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS), though it is not a definitive or standalone diagnostic marker.

ahahahahah krea 2 is trained on onlyfans and porn.

reason why I stay with my old model is that new ones can't gen the same character

>>109262180
What versions are you guys using? My GPU only has 8 GB VRAM so that's that.
I don't want to use comfy but as a peasant I can always use the stability matrix inference

>>109262227
polydactyl

>>109262188
Make up a unique-looking Namekian OC

standby for kinosovl

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>>109262230
This apparently:
https://huggingface.co/Kutches/Kr3a/blob/8ca4eae90ff189d55be32185e03dcce50602250b/Krea2_Turbo_convrot_int8mixed.safetensors
You should be able to run it with sane speeds under 8gb.
>I don't want to use comfy
It sucks but you are going to have bad time waiting others to implement same shit.

>>109262257
https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp
you don't actually have to use comfy or python for that matter

>>109262277
This shit is slow as fuck

>>109262292
show benchmarks

>>109262292
It's actually the same at 1024x1024. larger resolutions are slower and lower resolution is faster than comfy

>>109262292
Not the sdcpp shill but it runs at the same speed as comfy typically, if you enable FA.
Read --help.

>>109262257
Thanks for the link anon
I also need a text encoder and a VAE, which I'll find, but apparently a custom node for comfy as well?

>>109262356
You can get them from here
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Krea-2/tree/main
And no you do not need any custom nodes with that.

>>109262356
no comfy supports it natively.

>>109262326
nice

>>109262254
how much longer?

>>109262366
>>109262369
Thanks for the spoon feeding

Nevermind fuck all of you for making me use comfy

>>109262418
I don't understand your frustration.

>>109262418
fuck you. I told you to use sdcpp

Pony V7 is the future

>>109262429
of what?

Is there some sort of browser add-on that could download an image from a booru site and also download the booru tags as a separate txt file? I want to pick and choose which images I download instead of scraping the entire site.

>>109262431
feces.

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How do you guys gen explicit stuff with models that weren't directly trained on it?
I'm using Krea 2 to gen explicit stuff with stable-diffusion.cpp and while it does work, I really have to fuck around with weighting words in the prompt to coerce the model to generate what I want.
This works, but it's pretty tedious to figure out the correct weighting even though I've semi-automated it. The main issue is that weighting seems to depend on prompt length. The longer the prompt, the higher I have to turn up the weights for the explicit words so that the model outputs what I want, and that comes with its own issues if I crank up the weights extremely high. Describing explicit content in great detail doesn't seem to work on its own either. Even if 90% of the prompt is about the explicit content it still ignores it if I don't fuck around with very high weight values.

If I get around to it I'll also try the opposite: instead of cranking up the weights of the explicit keywords, I reduce the weighting of everything else so I don't have to crank up the explicit words as high. This might be a better approach but I don't know yet, still experimenting.

Before anyone asks, yes I'm using an abliterated vl llm with Krea.

>>109262514
I like krea2 for art but for porn it seems useless for anything except the most basic 1girl. had to go back to chroma unfortunately even though it's retarded compared to krea, it just knows so much more and is so much better at realism.

>>109262514
>How do you guys gen explicit stuff with models that weren't directly trained on it?
How is it supposed to generate something it wasn't trained on and has no knowledge of?
Anyway loras are your answer

why dont we merge krea 2 and anima?

>>109262531
great idea

>>109262487
>browser add-on
fuck browser web shit
https://github.com/Bionus/imgbrd-grabber

>>109262526
i don't know about that and it's often hotter to make stuff more suggestive than graphic.

>>109262540
>just bloat your computa

>>109262547
with something smaller than what you want and with more features? why are you on /g/?