she's right, you know
>>109266570only if you have time and you are enthusiastic about the problem and the problem is within your skill level and rarely do all those apply
Whoever likes his job is a mindless NPC
>she
>>109266591fpbp
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>>109266611Do you like bots or not? Make up your mind.
>>109266570You retarded dumb pick me trannyOnce anything turns into 9/5 JOB all the FUN and MAGIC is goneNow jump off bridge, thanks.
>>109266570Certified smooth pussy tier post
a large % of programmers are in it solely for the money. this is also why a large % of software is complete trash.
>>109266570he's partly right, that programming can be fun, but there's also drudgery that LLMs can automate awayi'd use sed instead of manually changing a variable name 100 times, just as i'd use an LLM to generate a bunch of boilerplate for me
>>109266668if it was only used for that nobody would care, however some places enforce llm usage everywhere.
>>109266570i cant be bothered to remember the last shit(twitter) post i saw here but im sure it was like oh btw AI will be normal soon.AI isn't ruining software, its a steep decline in past decades with layers and layers of abstraction from stupid frameworks and shit languages. ai is just the next step of people who need to know nothing about software to write it. i used to enjoy making things not just software. i don't think ive been happy in 10 maybe 15 years. there is no magic in the world afaik.
>>109266972but that's not what he's talking about in his xeet
anyone who thinks it is fun doesn't do it professionally.
>>109266570This bitch once claimed that cloud gaming had less latency than a fucking local console. You probably shouldn't listen to her, and especially not waste our time with Twitter screencaps nigga.
aa-absolutely, though one of the downsides of ACCELERATION is picrelated, so, i wouldnt consider their craft as something serious.one guy rolls out a runtime that is a copypasta of existing stuff and tries to conform to retarded specs. his writing is boring vegetation about this and that without tech details, he simply lacks intelligence required to promote "his" generated copy/clone. many comments and likes shine.
>>109266570not at all unique to this field btwand it's not much better in academia either, where reputation is the currency of choicethen there are the many shallow people in this world who only ever derive their "fun" from money and social status, ulterior hobbies and passion being completely alien to them
>>109266570I just want a whiff of her clitty so bad brossss AAAAAAAHHHHH
>>109267576i wonder if he's circumcised
>>109266570"she" is an mtf, my friend.But I agree with him that most programmers are in it for the money, not the process. Companies should be blamed for treating programmers as if they are bearers of some elite knowledge and paying them $250k and more per year when, in reality, they shouldn't be paid more than infrastructure engineers.
Why is it only females who are upset about gen AI?
>>109267682This honestly.It's funny, programmers are either making 6 figures at FAGMAN or they do FOSS. The former is incentivized to make overengineer everything for job security and the latter is a hacker that doesn't care about the user experience because it works on their machine.Pay me just above minimum wage and give me a long deadline. I'll deliver a superior product than 3 people given half the time.
>>109267036pipe down, jobsnigger.
>>109266570I only do the dishes because I can't afford a dishwasher right nowThe minute I get a dishwasher, I am not going to start talking about how much I loved doing the dishesDoing the dishes is over, the machine does it now.I just check to see how well it did when it finishes up.
>>109267780You wouldn't be saying that if you liked doing the dishes.
Laurie owes me a sloppy blowjob
>>109266570when I'm at work I want to get shit done, not do whatever I enjoy the most.even when I'm working on a personal project, it's important for me to get to the finish line and not just fuck around.that might not be the case for a roastie who has no other purpose than to get views from horny neckbeards.if she was a guy she would have 10 views on her videos.
>>109267739what are you talking about? most programmers neither work for big tech nor for foss projects.and the vast majority are still paid way above minimum wage.
>>109266570Ive realized recently Ive never liked programming itself, I like WHAT programming can make and do. She's saying coding is an end to itself, and sometimes it can be fun doing a brainteaser in class at a low level in c++ but nearly all the time, its a means to an end. I much more enjoy having an LLM code up a solution, reviewing the code. It moves faster than I ever have, and writes better too. I was always skilled at fixing obscure bugs and underatanding code bases anyways, not writing new shit from scratch. Ive come to realize Id be a good manager too. But good for her she likes to fuck around with code all day getting no where. I want to sprint getting stuff as fast as I can and work on other things like my car or hanging with friends. This is like balancing a checkbook by hand when excel exists.
>>109266570imagine listening to anything she has to say after this
Magic? It's all just logic gates. You absolutely should defer a lot of the boilerplate to a machine. That's what it's fucking for.
>programming is funTouch grass, need.
>>109266570I never programmed by hand.I've always used an IDE.I don't use LLMs either.They suck compared to IDEs.
>>109266570Based. I love computers.
>>109268218she's not wrongsame reasoning applies to that car sitting in your driveway 95% of the timemost of that money is wastedthat's why I don't own a car, I'm not dumb
>>109268218same thread
>>109268478two autistic twinks slapfighting
>>109268096Where are you moving to? It's understandable if you want to finish your job asap, but otherwise, what is even the point of building if you are not learning? Nobody will use your webapps or play your games or use your libraries. The point was always being more skilled after every project you finish, even with 0 users. Now that the LLM does all the thinking, where are you even moving to?
I don’t give a single rats ass about the opinions of a woman. You can fuck right off.
>>109268517>I don’t give a single rats ass about the opinions of a woman.you're in luck...
>>109266640the fuck is a 9/5 job
>>109266570this dumb cunt isn't programming. I'm really tired of these retards getting away with this bullshit. DESU I'd rather believe some vibe coder is coding more then this stupid bitch.
>writing shit manually is fun>"throw away their reasoning to a model"this is an opinion of a luddite retard about the retarded vibecoders that don't read, understand or challenge the AI on it's bullshitwhether it is right or not is immaterial, since the first category of people is on its way out and the second category is not really employable or useful in the first place
>>109268478BLOWN OUT
>>109266570i don't think that python / javascript / c# / java etc code monkeys understand how computers actually work
>>109268753Laurie isn't a luddite, she made a video about, and a github repo for, using LLMs with Ghidra
>>109268839>sonnetnah
>>109268478>didn't answer the question
>>109266570I don't listen to whore bitches.
>>109268857No need, he just hit her with the "do you know who I am" and the ratio.
>>109268218Apparently GTA 6 crashes the entire server in bug testing.Word on the grapevine.Not only is cloud gaming a bad idea, but it's arguably not fit for purpose and a blatant breach of consumer law. Not that corporations care about consumer law nowadays in this hellhole. It's a GOOD thing that none of your products work and can kill you.
>>109268861OP post is right.His cloud post is just rage bait though. Overall it's just marketing to his audience through a constant cycle of abuse. Meanwhile these faggots shut down critics of them all the time, because it doesn't make them a profit.They deserve to be gassed.
Like imagine thinking centralised is more efficient and better for the environment than each person being restricted to their budget and processor in their own room. Imagine thinking a centralised database with next to no budget limit would just use the same proportions of power as all people in their rooms. That's just not the case at all. In reality, they would use much much more power than the collective of people in their rooms on restrained budget.So there's nothing environmental about it at all. Yet these asswipes are CONVINCED that it is for the greater good somehow and the more efficient pathway. Monopolisation NEVER makes efficiency. It CAUSES inefficiency. So environmentalists, do your fucking job instead of destroying the environment with your policies that push for monopolisation and centralisation. Those KILL the environment more than anything else.
>>109268857>cant get the social cue giving the answer indirectly unless its spelled out to himkek autistic retard
if everyone doing programming while not being into it fucked the fuck off, we'd have heaven on earth.
Reminder that programming has never been a path to riches. FAGMAN and universities both had reason to oversell how much programmers make, using a very small percentage of senior developers at very wealthy companies as bait to get aimless teens looking for easy wealth to major in computer science or related training programs. Most devs work at places like AmeriSave, Kroger, Ameren, The Container Store, and any of tens of thousands of local and regional companies, writing mostly internal process applications. It's an ok middle class living but one with little security or stability.
Oh and don't forget that those centralised AI's are tailored to the highest sponsor. Yet MORE inefficiency. A truly functional society would provide:>computing equipment behind every person's door to use independently from the rest of society, which is an inefficient monopoly>education to use it and some mechanism to make sure they try to learn it and help for when they struggle to learn to use it>this includes improving their physical health to make sure they can learn it easierNotice how our society does the complete inverse of this. Simply out of the fear, for those with power, that individuals might be empowered.
>>109268500I'm building products and applications to do things. Even trivial things like moving my email server so I setup an opentofu project to automatically create the email relay on ovh to forward to mailcow locally. Nobody will use my shit if I never build it retard. They may use them, maybe not but the scope of them is too large to bootstrap unless I waste years and even then the mvp might not pan out.>more skilledIm working on my phd, Im about as skilled as Im gonna be and I learn BETTER using AI too. >the point of projects is skillNope, try again. Like saying playing a baseball game is becoming better. Maybe at the young youth levels but at HS its about winning.Moving to? Wtf does that even mean. Im completing a project.
>>109268916>Reminder that programming has never been a path to riches.But it should be. Because it should lead to better made tech that improves our lives - non-financial "riches" that improve the value and productivity we get from our lives. Instead it's used to worsen it because of human timidness and vague perceptions of how the tech works. This is especially so with pharmacology. Because so much bullshit is espoused by the makers of medicine that nobody can properly inform themselves on the product now. So they believe more and more bullshit and the products just never improve because nobody is informed enough to criticise them on the details. These companies hide the details now. Sorry you thought I was going to talk about just AI/programming tech? Pharmacology is technology. You are atoms. A machine of chemistry. Chemistry technology when it's effectively maintained (which it is not nowadays because people believe they have detailed the body enough to get to such a stage where it becomes technology). There is no drug out there that helps with my ADD, hence the long posts kek, but my god I wish there was. The current shit I use is a bandaid on a gaping wound at best, but at least it's one of the few that is marketed as being "a bit shit". The rest promise the world.
>>109268870>Not that corporations care about consumer law nowadays in this hellholecorporations write consumer lawthey fund the campaigns of our legislators and expect good service for their money
HOLY SHITITS THE SIMP THREADYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSIMP TIME WHOOOOSIMP HARDER BOYOS
>>109268916>programming has never been a path to richesIt is though you make an app take some dick in the ass and sell the app with no users for millions.
>>109269299Found the lonely chud.
>>109269305Ghetto mentality. No idea what you were trying to express with your focus on male genitals but your overall point that a few outliers get rich reinforces the comment you responded to that stated most software devs don't get rich, just a very small number do. Similar to how every hood rat thinking he's the next NBA star or multi-platinum rapper. NBA stars exist. Billionaire rappers exist. Doesn't make the average hood rat any less poor nor the average software developer any less middle class.
>>109268478>I am a big deal, you know! (pls date me)
laurie was good when small but youtube size taints all
>>109266591If you're smart enough to work as a programmer you're smart enough to work in a job you don't hate.
your future
>>109266570No she isn't. AI is the future. Doing anything yourself other than running a business using AI is retarded.
>>109266570Based! I use LLMs at work because we're expected to but honestly it creates as much work as it saves down the road, and it's no fun at all.
>>109266570maybe shes right but boss wants it now
>>109266655Go back to /aicg/
>>109266570the act of programming by itself can't be that fun because there's little room for personal expression or discovery, and this is because you're constrained to whatever framework, library, language some fuckface from California shit out to pad his resume, and these constraints go all the way downso programming is only a tool to create things that could be useful, like the FOSS community, so good luck landing a job where you make something actually useful instead of doing the 4th app redesign of the year or exploring another testing library just to appear busy with tickets on the board
>>109269566I can tell you've never made anything in a macroassembler or much at all from scratch.
>>109268690it's a 1.8 job
>>109269575why would I?
>>109269579programming is not your thing, just move on and do something else.
>>109269583I'm consistently one of the best programmers of any team I join, I'm just aware that I'm playing with a jigsaw puzzle where someone else already cut the pieces for me to put together, so I just do it for the money and time it gives me to do other stuffI'm not delusional enough to see it as something like "art", not when there's actual artistic activities I can pursue with the time I have after working my 2 hours a day (with meetings)
>>109269596>writing glue code for moneyI'm not surprised.but the delusional one is you if you can't fathom programming as art. demoscene exists.
>>109266591Speak for yourself, faggot
>>109266570she's a woman so by default she isn'twhy would i learn how to program when machine programs for melearn to code is no longer an insult, its an insult to try, if you tell me you hand code i assume you are wasting time
>>109269612>programming as artNTA but a program created primarily to solve a problem has its aesthetic choices constrained by utility. A program created with aesthetic expression as its primary aim moves closer to being art, but lets be honest here, you don't do that.
>>109270300>you don't do that.you don't. I do.
fractals, cellular automata, fluid simulation. programming is full of wonder if you know where to look.
>>109270335formal beauty of code or its technical perfection is not art
>>109266570i dont begrudge her for enjoying hand programming, however, i personally am way too lazy to ever do the things that vibe coding enables me to easily do. its like having a really smart friend play the assistant to you being the loudmouth idiot ceo. make this happen. make that happen. NOW! as close to o(1) as possible! hurry up! i respect her for being autistic enough to want to program, however, again, i personally would never want to do what i can now easily do with ai.
>>109270384A manually dug hole is not superior to one dug by an excavator merely because more human labor went into it.If automation limits your creativity then it's bad. But your goal is to make a working code, not art.
>>109266591If you work a job that is fun and people do as a hobby then you are significantly less of an NPC then losers that hate their jobs.
>>109266570she can hand program me
>>109270413the fact is that it enables me to, if not produce her level of professional software, perform experiments on datasets that are much larger and require more complex processing than is available anywhere else. instead of paying some service to overcharge me for garbage, i can literally pull it out of the ether, using tools i would otherwise never be bothered to learn the syntax of. ai in the hands of normies is boring, but in the hands of "smart" people is an amazing tool.
>>109270452Good programmers using AI is good. And idiot with an excavator is also a disaster.
>>109270374you should visit a modern art museum sometime.
>>109266570> Don't like computersActually no. I don't like computers. I don't like having to learn a retarded UI, I don't like having to fight with a bugged OS in order to get it working. I don't like having to learn a bloated programming language and I don't like having to interact with the modern web.During my bachelor's in CS I decided to switch to mathematics and that was the best decision I ever made. All I need now is a sheet of paper, a pencil and a text book. I only use a PC for LaTeX and i'm fine with that.
>>109270471Went on a date to a modern art museum not that long ago. Did I miss a revelation?
>>109270472Do you like interacting with standard mathematical notation?
>>109270491yes. it should have stopped you from gatekeeping on what is art.
>>109266570> engagement bait for xitter usersWhat are you doing here?
>>109270493Sure, why not. After a certain while it becomes a second nature.
>>109270496I value a heart transplant more than a painting. But surgery is not art. Gatekeeping implies a value judgement or prestige exclusivity, my distinction is purely categorical.
No you don't understand. I don't like computers BECAUSE I work with them my entire life and know exactly how they work so the "magic" is gone and all the work feels derivative and not satisfying because it's just a slightly different flavor of a problem I've encountered hundreds if not thousands of times throughout my career by now.I fucking HATE computers and try to not even touch them in my free time. Me and my wife both don't own smartphones and my 4yo son has never even seen a phone in his life and I'm pretty sure my mental health is better for it.Of course I use Fable 5 to outsource as much of this soul killing profession as possible to external tools while I use the time to post on here, HN and listen to podcasts instead. Would I be rather home doing anything else? Yes. Is it better than actually writing the same fucking 95% similar implementation and stack to solve rudimentary issues? Absolutely.
>>109270518anon... how about plastic surgery? that might nudge you in the direction I was saying about programming.
>>109266570"Hand" programming is only fun if you're making your own stuff. It's not fun when your working on a 10yr old codebase that's been touched by a few hundred different Indian hands.
>>109266570>person A uses AI to outsource their thinking, will eventually be replaced by person B when B is forced to use AI>person B programsBetween these two you know who wins in the end? The company, who will then fire both after squeezing their brain juice out.
>>109270541Beauty can exist from skilled action without making the action art. Like a chess game by Kasparov. Art requires the creation of aesthetic experience, and that experience is the purpose of the work, rather than a byproduct of solving a functional problem. Otherwise every skillful action that can be admired intellectually is art.There needs to be an artistic transformation of the particular into the universal. Some kind of estrangement of the ordinary. An influence on perception.
>>109266591The secret ingredient is fun coworkers, always
>>1092686909 minutes of work, 5 hours of shitting
>>109267036It's ironic, the instant you start getting paid for it, it becomes meaningless. Happened to me for engineering. Is this extreme contrarianism? I don't know.
>>109270585Npc
>>109266570>magic of the machinejust put the fries in the bag please
xitter e-celeb brainrot thread, thanks for bumping, retard
>>109266570well thought out engagement post to bait tech twitter nerds into replying
>>109268839hag
>>109268916>I suffer in the USAnon...
>>109269612>can't fathom programming as artHe never argued that
>>109270273You're right golem, tell them
>>109270585>Beauty can exist from skilled action without making the action art.I disagree.
>>109270783dumb meme. plants share and compete for resources to a similar extent that companies do.
>>109266570I like hand programming, but hate computers (and women)
feet programming when
>>109266570I understand how computers work on the transistor level and I still hate computers.
>>109268451>>109268218He is wrong though and your car analogy is perfect to explain why.Why own a car when you're not using it 90% of the time. You're not a taxi driver or Uber delivery guy who has 90% effective utilisation and rarely idles! Don't you realise how inefficient that is?What a fucking moron.
>>109266570She's right, and I wanna suck her penis.
I agree. It is fun and it is useful.You know who doesn't agree? Employers.I'm starving out here.The only other people that appreciate me or my work are other engineers and they're in the same boat. No owners, no project managers, etc.We strive for excellence and spend time obsessing over perfection but that does not appeal to the market so I am not enabled to do that more regularly and I think that's generally true. So I'm not surprised when people would rather give up on quality, denounce the skill or the trade.Is this a good thing? I think not. But I recognize it as the case. The consumers and the market pay for slop, they want to use faulty broken shit that needs to be patched every hour. Move fast, break things, finish nothing. Ugh.
>>109268218why would i care if my gpu isn't in use 90% of the time? my bed isn't, my car isn't, my microwave isn't.... should i move to some commune with everything shared? it'd be more efficient.i buy last gen gpus second hand and use them for at least 5 years, i can use it for any purpose at any time, there's no added latency which i very much care about, and i can run things like local ai models that aren't censored, i can run my pirated cad software on it. i also can use it as much as i like for as long as i like without additional costs (besides electricity), and when i replace it i can recoup some of the cost by selling it.
>>109266570Programming is just a tool. I don’t care about my tools, I just want the end effect
>>109266570>Working inefficiently is funHobbyist unprofessional mindset
>>109266570post titz
>>109268218What I'm reading from this is since women are idle 90% of the time we should put them in one place for everyone to fuck.
>>109271066real girl
>>109270695t h i s
>>109266570She's the new master baitor
>>109268451>>109271057Its more that I dont care, I read these arguements and just become sleepycar analogy is bad because all a car can do is drive placesa device that only plays games doesnt exist, even consoles are multimedia, just cause I'm not gaming on it 24/7 doesnt mean I'm not doing anything
and another one for the car, 90-95% idle use is a price I dont mind paying for easy access to a private car
>>109268218PC gaming has like 5ms latency wtf is that bitch on about
>>109267931>get shit>whatever I enjoyye, you dont enjoy, everybodys got that, pat pat on a head, poor retard>even when I'm working on a personal projectyou have none, be honest>>109268218>after thisjust move on, the show must go on>>109268442my condolenses, though IDEs on LLMs these days, they say its a glorified autocomplete>>109268096>She's saying coding is an end to itselfimagine being a wrestler who doesnt like wrestiling (what a loser), nope she doesnt say that.your though is as retarded as thoughts of those advocates that say that DNA found in a roof doesnt mean the suspect was a shooter, even though there was only the suspect elevating on a roof and captured by cameras.so, i resume to favor Laurie and maybe few other bloggers, like mustache agent
>blue checkmark grifter>posts retarded incendiary bullshitshan't be clicking your xeetshan't be engaging
>>109271656What kind of retarded example was that with the DNA? I stopped reading that shit half way through. My time is precious. Do I want to fuck around only getting 1 thing done or get 5+ done? >wrestlerImagine liking gay men groping themselves. But when you get to professional levels sports is a job so to a degree these guys arent having as much fun with the game and some maybe just see it as a job.
>>109266570>Field offers high pay>people who are primarily interested in money enter fieldwow amazing
>>109268431>I don't care about my tools.Curiosity is highly g-loaded.I can't wait for you anti-intellectuals to be eugenicized by the slop machine, you barely qualify as human.
>>109271752>maybeyour amatuer style smells through the display. you say "shit" way too often, only AI would tolerate sucha dumbass
how hasn't this been posted yet
>>109266570Most people hate their jobs because the fun part of the job is less than 20% and remaining 80% or more is frustrating grunt work
>>109273268Chaos likes to flood boards with meta-contrary energy to see if people do anything she wants, prior to sequestering everything on /d/ again like the concept of a prize does not even exist [yet]Tends to work for sub-nation scale crap
>>109266570>programmers>understanding how computers workkeep dreaming, retarded codemonkeys
>>109273276>Most peopleunhappy job havers dont even reach 20%, the closest are negros with 17%, the class youre refering to are either plebs or social parasites
>>109271791>(You)
>>109266570By the time I finished my programming degree I had a deep hatred of programming.
LAURALAURASHUT THE FUCK UP.
>>109268839Further proof she is a cogsucking brainlet. She gives the illusion of being productive when really her work is dog trash. And to the op yeah programming is / was fun. The fun part goes away fast once you get butt fucked in corporate and have to have meetings on meetings for the most stupid things in order to get your development across. I’m sure freelancers and startups tend to enjoy it more as they have more freedom. Now a days anything in the corporate environment is just depressing as management forces you to ai and the once most useless stupid people are acting like smug asses sniffing ai fart highs thinking they know it all. Meanwhile the rest of us have pretty much become the Jannies of the world forced to puke slop and clean up slop. I hardly code for fun anymore. I often find myself touching grass and getting away from technology
>>109266570>just convince your boss that you can do it faster than an LLMit's over, it's done, shit is already cemented as the new normal, the only turning point will be total LLM death
>>109274041When was this survey taken?
>>109273137thanks for giving us a way to block you big guy
>>109266591The secret is doing a job that improves the world for everyone
>>109274592and what would that be in the IT world? maybe 2% of apps go into that direction, the rest line pockets of greedy fucks, yet to experience something else
>>109274630I work at an ISP. We make sure you can shitpost.
>>109271128>why would i care if my gpu isn't in use 90% of the time?Let me help you out, Laurie is an employee of one of the biggest cloud hyperscalers in the world (Google). They probably dont want the goyim to own more compute a passive thin client.
>>109274636wow, how humanitarian, giving me access to a basket weaving forum full of schizos, unsung hero of the autistic
>>109274687this, but unironically
>>109266570i used to like them, i don't anymore, but that's still my job.i'm looking to do something else but in the meanwhile it will do.
>>109274636begone demon
>>109266591Whoever dislikes his job becomes a mindless NPC
>>109268218I mean.. I hate this argument but it's not wrong. The argument is that it's more economically efficient. I think that the post explain why well. The thing is that I don't give two shits about economic efficiency but about ownership and about having guaranteed access to hardware, that no one can deprive me from on a whim or because of a technical issue.
>>109266570>sheYou dropped these: ""
>>109266570Xe is righ, yeah. In the last 10ish years, the industry has been enshitified by the normies, who came here by chasing a certain lifestyle, all after watching "A day at [tech-corpo-name] of a [job title]" videos and constantly hearing "learn to code" narratives. And this phenotype has no interest towards the computers at all.
>>109268478What's the point of her question? That he's a boomer if he doesn't sub to netflix or what?
>>109266591truth nuke
>>109274637>works for googleoh, that makes sense
>>109274871you can be interested in the tech and still hate working for a tech company lol. some of them are shady. hell i worked for a video game company and that felt like working at glorified casino as we made most of our money from loot boxes and giant whales. Hell my current place aint sketch but god is it super corpo. i have to ask permission to do anything so half the time i spend twiddling my thumbs. but im not allowed to run learning vms on my own cause that increases the cost of shit.the home lab stuff i find great at home but im not doing anything there for anyone else so yea. its like how a mechanic likes fixing cars but sees how the industry is making it harder to repair (you need computers to pair parts and only the dealer is allowed to have them and if your working for a dealer its all about pushing extra stuff and shoving stuff out quickly because your paid by job flat rate not to actually improve things and take your time)
>>109266570this google retard needs to hang himself
>>109274889it's supposed to be a gotcha>oh you're against game streaming?>well why do you stream your movies then??except she/he didn't account for the fact that not everyone is a retarded goy
>>109266570It is fun when you master it.
HOLY SHIT THE SIMP THREAD IS STILL GOINGYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSIMP HARDER
>>109268451Car analogy doesn't work because a car being used 100% of the time will have a working life of a few years. A car used ss a personal vehicle and ran for a few hours a day can last well over a decade.
>>109273137I count one shit. Don't be retarded
>>109266664This, I hate my job as a programmer and i'm in only because it pays well.I'm planning to switch sector entirely in the future for a less stressfull one.I thought I could handle a job I hated if I got paid well but this wasn't the case.
>>109266570no, because your boss wants you to produce stuff faster, not "have fun"
>>109266570On the contrary, I think a lot of programmers completely miss the point of programming. At the end of the day, it isn't about jerking off over the minutiae of programming languages or arguing over academic computer science subjects (although, if you like that stuff, that's all well and good)--it is about giving a computer the instructions to do something you want it to do. In the era of high-level languages, a deep understanding of the "magic of the machine" is generally not required to accomplish this. In the era of AI, LLMs can help accelerate the process of writing the instructions that get the computer to do what you want it to do.Moreover, most people employed as software developers are working on soulless webshit, using the aforementioned high level languages. There's no fun in that, and most are happy to hand off some of the mundane drudgery involved in that kind of work to a machine.
>>109267931>the comments on this video
>>109268218>>109268451laurie is right I NEED to live in my car for economic efficiency
Laurie Says...>Go Listening! Throw away those old CDs and sub to Spotify Premium.>Go Watching! Trash those DVDs and sub to Netflix Ultra.>Go Gaming! Dump your gaming PC and sub to Stadi-uhhh...>Go Coding! Lose your bloated IDE and code in the GitHub cloud!>Go Browsing! Bin your Firefox and accept the Chromium monoculture!
>>109266570employed programmers don't have a choice, their corporate overseers are forcing AI usage and punishing those who still code by hand.
>>109268478Jonathan Blowhard can't hold any discussion without resorting to "don't you know who I am? I'm a big deal you know"
>>109268478years of shitposting has taught me one thing: do not reply to "haha no"
>>109280496>In the era of AI, LLMs can help accelerate the process of writing the instructionsBut the OP pic talks about delegating the reasoning itself. Using LLMs to accelerate the process is fine. The issue is when a person doesn't understand what are the instruction they just gave to the computer at all. You don't need to understand the "magic of the machine" but you definitely need to understand your own architecture and what set of instructions a piece of code represents.
programming is means to an end, it can be fun but it's not something you should be passionate about. If you are you are most probably midwit goycattle.
sick of society-by-spreadsheet to be quite h. i don't care that sharing objects and having their maintenance carried out by someone else is more economically efficient because i don't want to share with or even interact with the wider public at all (because they are disgusting) >i VVILL own my own car>i VVILL own my own computer>sorry not doing it (sharing) is all >ugh i know sorry
>>109266570>most programmers hate computers which is why they immediately trust a computer to take over their thinkingI know women literally don't think, they just say whatever feels "right" in the moment but. Come. The. Fuck. On.
>>109266570>magic of the machinethats enough foid mumbo jumbo for today
>>109266570Well yes, the "just lrn 2 code bro" movement has claimed many victims.
>>109266601i thought we had already concluded we can't reliably prove she is a tranny guys
>>109266603*spbp
