>>109270352MicroJeet bots shilled this trojan backdoor everywhereZoomer retard python and webshitters gobbled it up like a chocolate eclair.
>>109270352It's very neat
>>109270411>i like having my private data leaked sold on jeetwebWait till you'll have sex
It just werks. The only actual competitor to it (Extensible GUI editor) would be emacs, which ships with archaic defaults.
>>109270430ntayou can use https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
>>109270352It's not a IDE.
>>109270352because the other editors are shitturns out users dont want to press a gorillion key combinations to write 20 lines of code, like in emacs or eclipse (tranny favored editors)the only real competitor was atom but it had almost zero features apart from typing lol
>>109270538it can be
>>109270352>IDEits a text editor LARPing as an IDE>>109270549atom devs creating the software torment nexus (electron) only to get totally and irreparably cucked by microsoft doing the same thing in atom's own framework will never not be the funniest thing ever
>>109270563TRANS IDEs ARE REAL IDEs
>>109270352I love electron. having to run a whole ass browser in the background for simple apps
>>109270531Still uses fucking chrome as backendVSCode is HEP-C + AIDSVSCodium is AIDS only
>>109270567don't worry, if atom and electron never happened, vscode could still exist as nwjs app.
>>109270592>>109270629you just hate progress, html+css+js+react is the ultimate framework that runs the world's infrastructure, go back to your wxWidgets, granny.
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>>109270352Everything else is worse. Sublime would be king but the UX is not as good as VS Code (the file sidebar is unfinished, no integrated terminal, ...).
>>109270636saaar
>>109270352it's not, though. it's not even an IDE. Jetbrains are the best and the most popular IDEs.
>>109270721sublime is not an ide
>>109270764Jetbrains is peak!
>>109270774At what point does a text editor become an IDE?
>>109270636>html>css>wxAll terrible ways to code critical services / applicationsGo back to neeting
>>109270790add lsp to the text editor. bam, it is now an ide.
>>109270636Look, this is how sex having chads code, rajeesh
>>109270778Peak surveillance maybe
>>109270790when it takes at least 10 seconds to open
>>109270790when it natively understands the code you're writing beyond the AST, allows you to interact with the underlying toolchain through the UI without additional help (im not wasting my time writing a launch.json or whatever), and provides its own useful utilities such as extra inspections in the case of something like rider or refactoring capabilities in generalin other words, when it Integrates with your Development Environment>>109270806somehow ive never thought of running VS under wine. is it a good enough experience?
Anyone tried Zed?
>>109270382Nice gayming laptop
>>109270838i have. it took like 30 minutes to switch over and do all my settings and get a feel for things. i like it. once you configure it, it just shuts up and stays out of your way, instead of vscode adding new login buttons and ai tumors everywhere even in OSS releases. it doesnt hook into git in the terminal which i also like.it seems simple and solid, so i hope it doesnt go down the drain.
>>109270549When I was 16 I knew nothing and decided to try and learn Java with Eclipse. Got frustrated and wrote off software development for a decade
>>109270817Ahem... It's not wine, wine won't cut it...
>>109270352Visual Studio and Microsoft are big names and it's free. The standard IDE for employed people is Jetbrains' all products pack.
>>109270838>https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/204103>https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40239916#comment80Zed has light themes in which the mouse cursor doesn't disappear on Windows with AMD GPUs. This has been an issue for literal years btw, Google fucked something up and they're not keen on fixing it.
>>109270790The relevant distinction for me has always been a built-in debugger.
>>109270872>employed peopleCope, emacs users have the best careers and thousands of codemonkeys use vscode.
>>109270790When I say so
>>109270629What do you use instead?Afaik there are only VSCode/VSCodium and JetBrains. All of which are cancer.
>>109271024I'm using VisualStudio (inside a container) for C# and QtCreator for Nim and C++
>>109270838yes and im never returning to this bloated piece of shit of VS code
>>109270790one of the best parts about Geany is that it's technically an IDE
>>109271364It has G in it so it means Gnome and GTK so basically cancer.
>>109271072>complains about VSCode>uses Visual StudioIsnt Visual Studio like VSCode but with even more telemetry and cancer?
>>109272067>Isnt Visual Studio like VSCode but with even more telemetry and cancer?thanks /g/, always making me feel like an asshole for thinking the idiot on my team is the worse it can get.
>>109270838Yes and though I am a bit wary of how much they’re deepthroating AI but so far it seems good. A shame python support is not as good as vscode though.
>>109270352Well, I will say this, it's easier to deploy and get into the hands of people. And it doesn't cost a fucking thing, which is nice, because when you hire remote developer vendors some of the old boomers still insist on Visual Studio 2025 Enterprise and it's a royal cunt to install that on a physical laptop. A virtual machine? Don't even try. But VS Code is easier to manage permissions for and is an easier, lighter deploy, especially in virtual environments.
>>109270352extensions. it's convenient to just download/provide a vscode extension instead of having to download 9999 eclipse reskins for each framework
>>109270352who still uses ide lmao. i'm just using opencode
>>109270868Why do u gotta be so vague about it? I've asked you before how you got VS running on Linux and you did not respond. What's your secret? Winboat?
>>109270352>>109270462I use CudaText. It's probably the only sane alternative, aside from Geany and Kate/Kdevelop if you use those associated desktop environments.
>>109270817You just don't want to admit it, but I bet you keep moving the cheese so that "VSCode isn't an IDE".
>>109270352If hell exists, every single JS "developer" who brought Javascript to the desktop is going straight there. Words cannot describe how absolutely fucking seething I am that even on Linux we have an infestation of vibecoded slop written in QML / GJS and literal Python trash.Are modern devs seriously sub-80 IQ apes?
>>109270567atom was developed by github who got bought by microsoft, so it didn't matter much.
>>109272067visual studio has it's own debugger, compiler and build system. if you're doing sys dev for windows, nothing really comes close.though, recent changes in windows have made it kinda obsolete. right now there are no longer any supported native ui framework for c/c++ on windows. but apparently vs does c# now, which seems to be properly integrated as tooling is basically made by microsoft.vscode is a swiss army knife, it does tons of stuff, but excels at none.
>>109274124My secret is, it's basically a VM with my software stack for system integration I wrote in bash
>>109270721I truly cannot understand what goes through the heads of people who want integrated terminal in an editor. Surely it's going to be a much inferior terminal, literally use one of the thousands standalone apps. And if you need both editor and terminal on your screen at the same time, arrange your windows or use a tiling windows manager. I just can't understand the value proposition of a terminal pane inside the editor.
>>109275588>right now there are no longer any supported native ui framework for c/c++ on windowsWin32 has always been supported.
>>109275588>visual studio has its own build systemFor C# that hasn't been true for a long time. For any other language why bother is visual studio?
>>109270352antigravity blows this shit out the water now. if you aren't using an agent assisted ide, you're getting left behind
>>109270352>learn programming in 2016>sublime text editor>kill me>get job in 2018>vscode exists>don't kill me
>>109277528getting left behind in what?
There is no better option out of the box. Most devs are not tinkerers, they just want to open a program and start typing and have language support for every language under the sun via official extensions and not some randos project like in the case of Vim LSPs. Also it's free unlike JetBrains and not Windows-only like Visual Studio or Mac-only like Zed was until recently. Not that it matters now that coding is dead.
>>109270352its not an IDE retard, IntelliJ is an IDE, PyCharm is an IDE, VSC is a code editor for retards, you cant build serious shit thereI dont even have the garbage installed
>>109275098i will have you know xir, my iq is very norh of 120this is why my slop stays closed source
>>109270352back in 2018 when I started using this - my boss recommended this to me. It was faster than VS and Eclipse and that is what hooked me. There hasn't been a 'Good' replacement since
>>109270549>>109270567>>109270632>>109275254Atom is still around as Pulsar. It's more tolerable than VSCode, though everyone who isn't a jeet or a retarded tween faggot knows that native desktop editors like NP++ (Win32), Geany (GTK), Kate (Qt), and CodeEdit (Cocoa) are far more usable than all of your frankenstein electron holocaust abominations.
>>109277910>my bossare you ever disgusted with yourself that someone tells you what to do and they are not related to you, and you have to ask permission, like a little child, to go on a vacation
>>109277938not the anon you're asking, but constantly.
>>109276930Can you at least share which hypervisor you're using?
WHY IT HAS NOT BOOKMARKS BRES…. CAN WE JUST HAVE A GODDAMN BOOKMARK….. PLEASE??…. NOT JUST AN EXTENSION I MEAN A REAL BOOKMARK FUNCTION??? LIKE NOTEPAD++ ???? PLEASE??????
>>109277608Writing unmaintainable code
>>109279553Sure, virtualbox4chan Bro, if you really want more details so badly, I'm gonna upload this and post a thread because you need to configure quite a few things on the VM side.I also wrote a visual basic script for the VM so that it can sort of communicate with my bash scripts.I also implemented a shutdown schedule, which is postponed the moment a connection is made for the RAII RDP session.You also need xfreerdp for it to work
>>109270352I hate it because you have to sign in periodically to continue using it
>>109270352microsoft, indians
