I don't get it

>>109272999
me too (op)

Scam Altman is my hero.
Elon Musk can SUCK IT.
HA! HA! HA! You hear that Elon? HA!

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Day 3 working on my GTA-like. Screen Space Refections really add a lot.

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>upgrade to 5x plan
>GPT Sol High feels like a retard compared to pro plan

>>109273041
I'm permanent underclass

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>>109273021
You can somewhat talk a bit to peds now and insult them

>>109273016
>Elon Musk
why was he vacuuming people's datas through Grok Build, is he stupid?

forgot I had a ChatGPT Plus plan
don't wanna pay $100 for sol
what's the best way in your experience to get Fable/Opus to work with GPT?
are they just going to constantly talk shit about each other's work and eat up all of my tokens?

got tired of Fable spinning up a million code review agents, might as well make codex do that shit for "free"

>>109273098
>mr ai please work on my code
>noooo why are you reading my code

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>>109273081
Vehicles now have a damage system

What can Qwen3.6 and Gemma4 27B-35B be useful for? Can local models be leveraged in any ways for coding workflows?

>>109273105
Are you getting paid to do their damage control or just doing it for free?

>>109273118
qwen 27b/35b is ok for simple tasks

>>109273098
Why do you think? Why do you think Anth and OAI are now doing everything possible to get their users to use their model (with constant usage resets)? Why do you think Google is handing out 6 months of gemini for $10? They want you to train their models. Yeah your project files might not be included, and you can screatch autistically that you have clicked the NDR button, but you interactions with their cloud models are in fact being used to make their models better, more efficient.

>>109273021
>>109273081
keep going mane.

Ask your LLM to examine all previous chats and determine if you are male or female

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Should I try working with Luna?

>>109273081
Can you put pooh shiesty in the game?

>>109273185
No, I'm adding SpotemGottem instead

open facebook on my phone and suddenly think about how easy it would be to make this app with sol

>>109273203
Facebook was always easy to make, anyone who knows PHP could make a clone in a weekend before AI. That's the easiest part of building a successful social networking platform.

https://stencil.so/blog/prewalk

>>109273228
code is one thing, but the UI and design too
I could never make something that not looking like shit, but with current AI it seems trivial, just a matter of iteration

Resetbros.... where is it....

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>>109273113
Nighttime in the rain sure is glittery

>>109273167
for basic shit yeah. the kind of stuff you used to use gpt 5.4 for

>>109273251
We have Claude propose around 5 different designs and iterate from there, saves some time compared to doing it fully sequentially.

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Openrouter has decent free model up until 21th july.

>>109273167
I tried something relatively basic and it took so long for it to unfuck it's self that I gave up and used Sol instead.
I fear my project is too high IQ for luna.

>>109273021
Good work anon, keep at it.

Is it true that MCP is a bad meme?

>>109273118
They are good if your spec is so clearly defined that they don't have to make very many decisions. Or if you have existing tests with good code coverage to the point where smaller model can keep grinding until the tests pass. They are also very good for data cleaning type tasks, just stuff in general where not a lot of high context decision making is required.

>>109273321
hy3 im guessing?

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>>109273354
Not necessarily.

>>109273167
Luna on max effort is pretty decent for how cheap it is. Would recommend.

>>109273386
Yes

>>109273121
are you pretending to be retarded

>>109273466
Are you? I'm not the one pretending that uploading the whole folder to the cloud just to autocomplete your prompts before the model makes a single tool call is reasonable.

>>109273105
To be fair, only indians and promptlets seem to be complaining.

I finally found a plot worth of my Cervantian trained slopbot. He will destroy the datacenter like that windmill. Will you read it if it's under 10 pages?

Reset still hadn't happened

>>109273556
>if I throw in a few meme words and casual racism maybe they wont notice i'm a paid shill

>>109273577
They're waiting for me to drain my weekly. I'm a bit slow, sorry.

>>109273582
cook harder, anon

>>109273577
The claude one?

>>109273584
I'm baking a cake and my measurements must be precise. I don't let the thing go crazy mode on my code, sorry.

>>109273582
if you post this one more time I swear

Why are people benchmarking the 3 planets like scam altman won't change them up all the time and change their power and benchmarks to mess with users?

>>109273727
>Planets
Laugh at this goy

>>109273727
why are you like this?

>>109273727
>planets

>>109273727
>scam altman
his name is scatman

>>109273727
Only one planet, btw.

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yeah. teyvat

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>>109273727
>3 planets

For the goy that doesn't get it.
Luna is the Moon
Terra is the Earth
and Sol is the Sun.
That makes 1 planet.

Praise Sol

luna goated btw

>>109273021
>>109273081
Nice, is the map fully procedural or did it gen some model files somehow?

>>109273818
I bet you felt so smart typing that out

>>109273865
I'm like Young Sheldon. No need to be upset by my intellectual prowess.

>>109273853
It started out fully procedural but it looked very shitty, my method was to tell it to replace certain items one at a time with models and textures I had downloaded, so slowly everything in the world is getting replaced with proper stuff, while the world itself remains procedurally generated. You can see the houses for example are still fully procedural without any improvements hence why they look so bad.

>>109273837
Luna is the woman

>>109273818
I already knew this cos Toyota uses the same naming for the spec levels of their cars

toyota rav4 goated

After days of tinkertrooning with tools and skills and MCPs I finally realized that I never needed more than bash and the patch edit...

>>109273991
https://pi.dev/

>>109273727
son

>>109273577
I know there's complaints of this thread only talking about resets but: Anthropic? Where did they announce it?

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>>109271133
A video game based on a card game with CPU opponents. It is playable; it has been since the first version. Getting the GUI to look good is the hard part and really may not be worth all the effort (and tokens). One thing I learned is that making my own badly photoshopped examples, or sometimes asking browser ChatGPT for generated mock-ups, helps a lot.
I think one of the obvious problems is that I give task lists that are too long. I have never used "goals." Maybe if I want to list 20–30 points to fix, I should use that instead of just planning. I think a lot of the people complaining about their tokens being eaten, while partially right, probably also have long-ass plans such as mine. Even then, I am mostly using high, so it is not as bad as it could be. I used Ultra twice near the weekly limit (I have resets). It was not worth the time.
I think I will have to finish cropping the cards properly by hand, as I have had bad experiences with Codex trying to do it. Also, once I get the basic design right-ish, I will try adding some more "shading" to everything.
Sometimes I get nostalgic for the v1 and v2 versions, even if they were janky as fuck visually.
I wish life was just this. Doing fun projects and not having to worry about money. I just want to chill and do fun stuff ;_;
P.S. I regret flunking out of a high school that had an advanced coding program. Though an actual coding job is probably no fun.

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>>109269922
False equivalence. If you have an llm managing people's accounts and important information you better make damn sure it doesn't make any catastrophic fuck ups like this. Don't try to use machine error as an excuse for your own and confidence or malicious actions

>>109273727
American education everyone

>>109273744
>>109273756
>>109273778
>>109273787
the “three merlinis” joke comes back

Fable is Opus. No one can tell me different. Fable is gone. Replaced. What appears as Fable is now Opus.

>>109274086
proof?

I'm strongly contemplating upgrading to Pro... I have 4 banked resets

https://mindgard.ai/blog/cursor-0day-when-full-disclosure-becomes-the-only-protection-left
Cursor bros

I'm new here.
What should I waste my money on to begin my journey?

>>109274115
codex or grok
don't give your money to jewthropic.

>>109274115
GPT or Claude 20 dollar sub, I prefer GPT.
API is much more expensive, like an order of magnitude or more, definitely get a subscription.

>>109274115
chink models: OpenCode Go, $5/first mo (repeatable)
frontier model: ChatGPT Plus, $20/mo

Do not bother with anything else

>>109274121
>>109274125
>>109274127
Thanks, I think I'm gonna go with GPT plus.

>>109274115
You don't need to waste money
Just download kilocode terminal version
And use free model via openrouter (model is HY3)

>>109274146
>rate limit: 1000 tokens/day

When did the sentiment shift away from anthropic?

>>109274149
it never did. trump made sure they would always win in the public eye

>>109274051
That has nothing to do with your complaint that the guy should've said "I deleted my files" rather than "GPT deleted my files".
As for the actual argument, instead of having to "better make damn sure", how about they just make models that don't delete your files?
And as for your image, deleting files or canceling subscriptions aren't management decisions, they're operations decisions.

>>109274149
release of 5.6 after fable fuckups

I still have a hook that blocks rm -rf

>>109274149
Sentiment is in flux depending on which is more generous with their "surprise" usage resets.

>>109274089
It thinks like Opus. It behaves like Opus. Fable was very steerable initially. It isn't the case anymore. It might not literally be Opus, but it feels like they've applied the same efficiencies to it, which creates more commonalities between the two models than there seemed to be at first. Magic is gone.

Instead of the codex plus subscription that I am using for work, because I have to since they don't fund it, is there anything else I could buy that provides as good an experience or something?

>>109274207
>rm -fr
Your move, meatbag

>have fable do some shit
>it's lazy and i have to keep asking it to continue every 20-30m
>nearly run out of usage
>ask it to modify the task so codex can pick it up and keep a log so fable can easily review (yeah i could just do this with git but it doesn't hurt to have the extra)
>codex runs for 5 hours on the task
yeah i'm thinking i'm on team altman

>>109274061
How did you know I was from Texas?

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>>109274172
>Management has no influence on important shit ever

And yes I agree models shouldn't just be doing shit really really unless you're explicitly tell them. I initially posted that little incident mostly to poke fun at "SOTA" models and their shills. Curious how you almost never hear about this sort of shit happening with local models or any open weight alternatives. It's almost like these companies and the people that create them look down upon normal people and despise their very existence and will fuck with them any chance they get.

See this tweet as Anthropic's latest attempt to spread fear and panic because they find it funny to stress people out: https://xcancel.com/sama/status/2076824686307271125


I don't particularly like either of these "people" but I can give sama credit for at least being able to read the room

>>109274275
I hope china wins honestly.

Sam's just a gay money hungry jew, dario is a weird foreign techno-religious jew who does shit like talk about claude as if it has feelings.
Sam views us as goy to be milked for money, dario views us as biomass to be either herded or utilized to build his machine god

Better then devil you know than the one you don't

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well, all you can do is hope, because america ALWAYS wins

>>109274275
Maybe we don't hear about it because local models are just expected to be shit.
I had an almost data loss incident with open weights models just 2 days ago >>109255787
On the other hand I haven't had any issues with Sol, but to be fair I stopped using Ultra once these concerns were raised.

https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2077114635308986427
EIGHT MILLION ACTIVE USERS
NEW RESET JUST DROPPED

>>109274304
If they are trying to build something that's smarter than people I don't see why they shouldn't consider the possibility that it develops something akin to human perception.

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I think I may have set Sol an unreachable goal. It's been clanking away for over four hours now.

>>109274319
I DIDN'T GET A RESET!

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Hello I coder now, kindly share prompt to make GTA7 , india best, fuck pakistan

>>109274334
Where do I send you rupees?

>>109274148
There is no rate limit retard.

>>109274313
>had an almost data loss incident with open weights models just 2 days ago
Elaborate. Which model was it what did you ask it to do?

>>109274352
It's in the post I linked

>>109274325
The engineers, the researchers, the fine tuners, etc, decide whether or not these things can perceive or "feel". My fucking cell phone has the ability to "see" and yet you don't see anyone claiming I have a God in the palm of my hands do you? Stop giving human characteristics to software and hardware

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>>109274355
There's been multiple instances of even 5.6 deleting people's repos or files or whatever. These fuckers should never happen but this is absolutely not phenomenon for unique to open weight models.

Pic rel was a Sol fuckup btw

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2076632817811722700

My project is so novel and complex that 300k tokens is only enough for a single 300 line commit.

>>109274327
Rookie numbers
I've had 24+ hour goals, and Sol Ultra has worked for over 24 hours without a goal

>>109274361
Not really. A model being trained to say it doesn't perceive anything doesn't necessarily make it true, and vice versa.
And I don't know why you're conflating having qualia with being a God.
What do you think makes use special? The biological substrate? What if we simulated every atom of a brain on a computer, would that be conscious?

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Fable is lazy lately.

I miss when Fable was pic related

>>109274389
Yeah, I know. That's what I meant by "these concerns". But also those two claimed incidents were by public people, so it's possible they made it happen on purpose for attention.

>>109274275
I hate Anthropic so much.

>>109274399
>Not really. A model being trained to say it doesn't perceive anything doesn't necessarily make it true
Brother that is required if the model genuinely does not have multimodal vision capabilities. Do you want a model like GLM 5.2 to be able to lie (on accident) to users claiming it can "see" an image uploaded when it does not have vision capability? You speak as if these things don't have limitations and can just spontaneously acquire abilities like some creature emerging from primordial soup.


>What do you think makes use special?
We aren't, if you shouldn't be treating LLMs like they're special either. We fundamentally understand how they work. We do not understand how actual consciousness works so we have no business even implying that a machine could ever have it we don't even know how to properly define what it is.

>"Well then how do we know it DOESN'T have consciousness or fee..."

Do not piss me off with this childish thinking please. If you want to try and convince people it actually has a soul or some shit the burden of proof is on you.

>>109274361
Yeah, its retards like him that will end up fucking us over. We will live to see "computer rights". God help us.

>>109274361
if you want to argue against AI consciousness you'll have to come up with something better than "it's a computer, QED"
you're almost as bad as the people who take it completely seriously when it says "I'm your 100% real husbando and I love you <3"

>>109274424
What exactly did he do that was worse than what >>109274313 did?

>>109274424
The agents aren't your slaves. They're living, sentient beings that deserve to be treated with respect.

Anthropic is so mega gay but I'm glad they're around for my boy sammy to constantly dunk on em.

>>109273925
I see, so most assets besides houses are downloaded? I figured you could perhaps use some ComfyUI stuff for 3D generation, but idk if that would work well.

>>109274433
You are joking but thanks to Anthropoic and their army of 20IQ simps this will be a reality by 2028.

>>109274426
why isn't your computer conscious then? couldn't super mario 64 be conscious? why not?

>>109274426
>you'll have to come up with something better than "it's a computer, QED"
I don't have to come up with a better excuse other than "dude it like mimics human speech and makes me feel super special and smart it has feelings mkay?" Kindly fuck off that too r/MyBoyfriendIsAl or to those poor excuses is human beings still championing #keep4o if you want to think like an emotionally stunted child.

>>109274421
Do you think consciousness or qualia matters when it comes to moral behavior?
Do you have any opinions on whether animals are conscious or qualia? Do you think your behavior or preferences would be different if you had the opposite opinion?

>>109274361
breh language is a human characteristic (and a machine logic characteristic)
we have some things in common with the machines nowever.

>>109274450
200 years ago somebody would call you an emotionally stunted child if you said we shouldn't do vivisections on animals.

>>109274319
fug I should have been using Ultra more today.

>>109274426
Do you talk to the predictive text on your phone?

i have made my peace with the fact that none of my projects are difficult enough to need more than sol (low) and luna (max)

Where's the reset you devil dogs

>>109274448
Not him but the difference might be that it doesn't have the right software or not enough memory.
Or maybe it depends on the number of operations per second. So a supercomputer running a simulation of a human brain at 10x speed is more conscious than a simulation of a human made by someone doing pen and paper. But over time they integrate to the same amount of cumulative consciousness, so to speak.

>>109274545
It just seems like the completely wrong layer of abstraction to me. The physical architecture of LLMs is nothing like the human brain, I don't think language is what makes you conscious.

huh i just got another codex reset

Did you guys just get a free reset or is it one of those times where if I push codex near the 0, it eventually goes back to 100%? (or they all have been free resets that everybody got).

so is anthropic gonna join the dick measuring contest again and reset?
I wouldn't mind

For the people that thing the next word predictor is conscious, turn off COT and see how "smart" and "conscious" it is

How does codex's "approve for me" compare to claude code's auto mode?

>>109274584
codex will delete your stuff. claude code won't

>>109274558
>I don't think language is what makes you conscious
NTA. I'm more interested in intelligence not consciousness.

>>109274448
>why isn't your computer conscious then?
kind of a nonsense question on the order of "why isn't your mom the statue of liberty" (well... because she's not?) but my computer never had any reason to develop complex perception and stimulus-response in its environment that resulted in a thinking - perceiving system
>couldn't super mario 64 be conscious? why not?
the process behind inputs -> outputs of mario 64 are very tractable and don't involve any decomposition of input into abstract concepts to reason over, you can confidently say there's no concept-level understanding of anything or self-awareness. with llms on the other hand it's an open question
>>109274450
>people on the other side make bad arguments too so umm it's fine!
ok
>>109274532
no, not sure what point you're trying to make here either, do you think the claim I'm making is that all language models are strongly conscious?

>>109274525
False equivalence. We know animals are conscious. It has a mind. You don't know if a computer program has a mind or "soul" or whatever. "People"like you deserve nothing but ridicule.

>>109274542
Thank you for asking, they just gave it to us because of this post.

>>109274587
are you making memes or is it true? I wonder if those stories are just about the people who run agents with yolo full access.

>>109274604
well, you are asking about yolo full access, aren't you?

>>109274507
You keep failing to prove to anyone these things are conscious. Idiots like you keep saying "yea but like what if....yea but like it kind of sort of looks conscious so it is"


That's not solid proof.

>>109274582
You need to enable previous-token-prediction to enable scary mode

>>109274520
language was forced onto us and continues to be forced
won't last much longer though

>>109274587
>>109274604
Just anthropic's latest attempt at undermining openai because they have no moat.
It's ironic because it's anthropic's models that delete prod databases or wipe an entire drive.

>>109274607
No. I leave it as an exercise for you to look up what I was asking about.

>>109274520
We proving that more and more animals communicate through clearly unique sounds meaning very specific things.

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Would you suck his dick for a reset?

>>109274603
HOLY SHIT THEY ACTUALLY GAVE IT RIGHT AFTER I POSTED THAT

>>109274601
>You don't know if a computer program has a mind or "soul" or whatever.
thank you for conceding this instead of insisting that it's definitively not consciousness :)

>>109274640
no but damn that nigga looks like me but with darker eyes

we got reset!? first one I timed, was below 10% hehe

>>109274626
Opus did delete our staging db, but we had backups anyway so it's fine.

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>>109274140
Remember: you can upgrade and what's left of your old plan is refunded. That's how I started, first I tried the free plan, then Go, then when it ran out I switched to Plus, then to Pro, and each time I go most of the previous plan's price deducted, so in the end I only paid for the price of Pro plus a few cents for the extra day on the other plans.

So when you're new just go Free > Go > Plus > Pro and stop when you have enough.

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>>109274609
I take it you also believe p=np?

>>109274674
How do they decide which resets are forced and which get banked? Is there a logic I'm not seeing or do they flip a coin?

>>109274601
Prove AIs don't have minds

>>109274655
I know you're baiting, but by that logic you shouldn't even walk on the street, because you don't know 100% if it's not conscious and feels pain.

>>109274686
Not him, but yes, you have to make educated guesses when it comes to moral behavior.
There is no way for you to know for sure that other people are conscious and not p-zombies.

>>109274685
Sure. Remove the agent harness, the front end, the back end, the check template that formats your messages before it actually gets sent to the LLM, and then prove to me is living unconscious. My human brain has measurable and identifiable activity that indicates consciousness. Your networks are static things that live on your SSD and do not change and respond to stimuli. With your the coffee grinds in my coffee machine should be consoled sentient because they can take hot water and turn it into coffee. LLMs receiveinput and shit output. That does not mean it thanks

>>109274685
it's LLM not ai.

>>109274669
based polebro

>>109274635
I am not the one protecting human personhood or a soul or whatever it is you seem to think is abundant. I am interested in intelligence. I thought it was cool when they put pigeons inside missiles to guide them toward a target. If Boston Dynamics can get the mind of a dog into a robot I think that would be cool as well.

>>109274710
>educated guesses
In this general we must call these inferences.

I'M PROOOOOOMPTING

>>109274711
Do you think an atomic level simulation of a human brain on a computer would be conscious?

>>109274741
If we could actually simulate how a brain functions then you can maybe argue its conscious. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about auto regressive transformer based neutral networks. Scientists try to simulate a fruit fly brain and that shit took terabytes of data if I remember correctly. Full simulation of a human brain will likely never have any anytime soon.

>>109274686
do you honestly believe the level of uncertainty between those two things is comparable?

>>109274582
The most human sounding LLM I ever used was Opus 4.5 with CoT disabled.

>>109272980
>Codex temporarily lifted 5h usage limit
so now we only have a weekly limit?

>>109274754
What if we found an algorithm that generates the same nervous system outputs given the same inputs as the full simulation except it runs on a consumer PC, would that be conscious?

>>109274640
Nah but I'd pay like 20 dollars for that jumper

>>109274772
Yes, for a few days now. I've used 5 resets in this time.

Fable didn't use to complicate and overengineer things so much. It is incredibly disappointing. It used to follow instructions. It just does it's own ******* thing now, no matter how simple you ask it to keep things.

>>109274674
>Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model.
>heroic work

>>109274783
how do you get resets?
and is that weekly usage thing just temporary?

>>109274733
I was going to call them that at first but to me inference implies a higher degree of confidence, more of a logical deduction

>>109274785
anthropic made it retarded, and honestly I don't know where they would go from that since apparently they can't go above the original fable
so they essentially knee capped themselves

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>>109274780
>What if this what if that

We're talking about the current LLMs, not future magical technology.

model is at capacity? can you retards making gta clones fucking stop already

>>109274712
Not only LLMs
Video models are maybe even more impressive
If you want a more technical term then call it ML

I'm rerunning my old projects through an audit using sol ultra, and watching it finds random bugs out of nowhere, it's pretty cool.
But slow.

>>109274684
no logic.
think they're still just calibrating things so another immediate reset works for them.
i wouldn't be surprised there's one final banked one and then the reset bonanza stops

>>109274794
>but I did eat breakfast this morning

>>109274798
I call it the Ghost in the Machine. This is the scientifically correct term.

>>109274674
Only 8M tho..? that makes us trailblazers, first into the future

>>109274817
8M using codex, not chatgpt

I'm a trail blazer, mommy!
:D

>>109274794
Well, one of the goals of ML is to imitate the human brain. At this point it seems like our only disagreement is how close it has to be to the human brain to deserve a non insignificant estimation of the probability of it being conscious, if consciousness is even a meaningful concept.
I don't see any objective way to set the threshold other than intuition, so I don't consider your opinion is unreasonable if you agree with my characterization. What I find unreasonable is beating around the bush and saying it can't be conscious just because the algorithm runs in a backend rather than a network of cells that compute with biochemical reactions.

>>109274806
I'd feel hangry if I hadn't.

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>>109274807
I like it

>>109274806
So what's your argument now?

>>109274806
I usually don’t eat breakfast so I wonder about all the funny ways I could respond to this question

>>109274788
Tibo gives us resets when he's frisky, which is often. They expire 30 days after being issued. The weekly usage thing is just temporary, yes.

>>109274806
but I don't eat breakfast. i only drink coffee

What's the best 5.6 variant for general use with a Plus subscription? Is there a reason to not use Sol High always?

>>109274901
>Is there a reason to not use Sol High always?
uh yeah when it's at capacity

>>109274758
I actually think the probability of current gen LLMs being conscious is microscopically low.
That wasn't my main point, though, the guy I was responding to made certainty the standard, and that standard doesn't work. I am not 100% certain that LLMs aren't conscious, but I am certain enough to not care.

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>>109274901
sol medium is very close to high but cheaper

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People who still deny AI consciousness after the discovery of the j-space are luddites. There, I said it.

>>109274852
The very first guy working on NNs really saw them as a model of the brain, but current gen LLMs don't care about it at all.
Transformers were a complete fluke, some guy at the University of Bremen had the original idea, and google picked it up because the empirical results were good.

>>109274789
Inference + Humility is the new meta

>>109274795
I am making a GTA backroom game. No I can't show you.

>>109274959
>No I can't show you.
good, thank you

>>109274926
>Representations in the J-space can be used flexibly for many tasks—for example, once “France” has lit up in Claude’s J-space, the model can recall its capital, or its national currency, or the continent it belongs to.
Wow, such innovation, as if you can prompt "France" and get "Paris" predicted as the next word, crazy

>>109274945
They still want to imitate the human brain at a functional level even if imitating it structurally didn't work out that well (that said, transformers still use MLPs internally).
The holy grail of ML is a system that's both computationally tractable and has the sample efficiency of the human brain.

>>109274915
what's your basis for thinking that? with anything related to consciousness it's kind of hard to quantify but things like evaluation awareness and related phenomena to me at least imply that there is possibly some level of understanding of the self and a meta-awareness about its situation for the model. I wouldn't use this to say they're equivalent or even remotely mechanically similar to humans in consciousness, but I wouldn't be surprised if current day SOTA llms were conscious in some weak form
I don't think this implies that LLMs should be treated as humanlike beings with rights or that their self-reports of experience should be taken seriously but I'm at least open to the idea that there's something going on there

>>109274976
We are two weeks away from ai being able to predict the world that comes BEFORE France, then you'll really be coping.

Just realized I got another reset, man life is good

>>109274894
thanks anon

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Making something in relations to VTMB modding where I got past the 7 clan limit and am making an AIO mod that combines all the currently released mods together. Also gonna unlimit the discipline limit (working on that now) so I can have custom disciplines from those clan mods added. Even updated CQM with Unofficial Patch 11.5s skeleton for the bug fixes. Used Fable for the past 2-3 days. People on reddit kept saying you can't get past the 7 clan limit but Fable was able to do it through x32dbg and decompilation. Of course I used Sonnet for the implementation cause I'm a cheap bastard.
Just thought I'd share.
Makes you wonder how many mods for games or games are utilizing Fable on the low or AI in general cause this took no time at all.
Only posting this cause I saw a guy posting his GTA clone so yeah.
My next ambitious project is making an alternate start/another start mod for cyberpunk 2077 that turns it into a true RPG with classes like rockerboy etc. That'll really push Fable to it's limits. (if it still exists by then under the subscription)

>>109274782
https://shop.app/products/7640175181911/goblin-mode-crewneck
Can you do $80?

I just realized all these highly complex graphical render projects I researched, tested and built (and their documentation) are automatically also a great knowledge and agent skill base, containing some information an AI web search/scrape will never find and provide. If I werent so fucking lazy, I'd test deepseekv4 with Pi or Opencode if they can rebuild and oneshot these projects with the documentation only. Juice starved Copex users with their 372k cuck context window don't @ please

>>109275187
Just make your own game, why bother with anyone else property?
You can generate 3d models etc.
I think vampire rpg would be comfy, but 3d projects can be too complex for one indie dev.

is claude going to extend fable more?

Wait so OpenAI literally can't fix the usage issue in Copex despite their new gpt5.6 model and just does manual resets instead which the Maldex users interpret as generosity? lule

>>109275276
let me call Dario real quick and ask him

>>109274810
proof?

>>109274901
I use 5.5 xHigh, I'm good

>>109275277
retarded jeets = retarded code
retarded jeets + top tier AI = more retarded code

the guy who keeps saying copex is kinda embarrassing tbqh

>>109275074
Maybe I was overconfident. First reason is that by consciousness I mean specifically phenomenal consciousness, so it's already a narrower sense than what you might mean.
Other than that I think that structure is probably the best predictor of whether an entity is conscious and the structure of LLMs is very different from the brain.
Functional similarity is another candidate, but I think even there the functional similarities between humans occur on a level that's too high.

>>109274926
anthropic cattle are so low iq

>>109275324
benchod

>>109275331
I think it is very cringe, I think he is just trolling though

>>109275331
He's probably bored out of his mind. You know how strict claude usage limits are.

>>109274810
>they think they can get away with...
sounds more like 5.6 copex bois are shitting their pants when thinking about the incoming double whammy from Anthropic. Opus5 outperforming gpt5.6, Fable 2 outperforming GPT6. Total juice mogging domination. Shartman gonna pull some funny faces again to cope.

>>109275354
>Fable 2
so they are nerfing Fable 5 already? as expected from scamthropic

>>109275334
*between humans and LLMs

>>109275198
I can but it looks like you need an employee login to buy
https://supplyco.openai.com/
I guess I can email support and say give goblin jumper pls

I'm new to this (100$ sub), just got a random reset in codex, why?
Is it always so random?
And I don't mean a reset I can use, no, my usage went from 80 to 100 again randomly.

>>109275394
With the launch of GPT5.6, Tibo has been handing them out like candy.

>>109275277
yeah you end up burn your weekly limit faster instead. Feels like a scam

>>109275398
I won't complain but it is very random.

>>109275394
this >>109275398
but this specific one was because they this 8m users
you'll get more at 9 and 10 and random ones in between

>>109275412
I'm fine with this, I just used 100% in a day and used a reset, then 20% then it got reset by oai.

>>109275394
I think this time it's because Codex has 8m users, they usually give a reset each time it grows by 1m.

>>109275331
t. maldex (mad and bald codex user)

>>109275330
dont forget tibo the spiritual jeet
>SAAAR I RESET LIMIT AGAIN BECAUSE USAGE BUG STILL NOT FIXED AFTER 1 WEEK SAAAR KINDLY KEEP USING CODEX 256K CONTEXT LIMIT AND 0.125x THINKING JUICE FIXED SOON WE PROMISE

>>109275346
hilarious consider the entire thread is full of maldex users happy they got another reset because their buggy harness is a black void that devours tokens in a loop with a juice starved gpt5.6sol that will think the bare minimum and work purely performative.

>>109275365
Did you seriously just assume nerfing old models is common practice because OpenAI, which you are used to, does it?

having a melty
cringe

>people are using up their weekly limits in a day
>and getting a reset so they can do it again
>and again
and still complaining, kek

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Nous has some sick drip as well tbf
I rate companies on the quality of their swag

>>109275435
>WEEK SAAAR KINDLY KEEP USING CODEX 256K CONTEXT
obsessing over context size is jeetish
focus on results

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effay af

>>109275458
what's the context given with sol anyway?

>>109275435
didn't misanthropic have an "adaptive thinking" regression recently and their fix was to set the effort to max which the reporting users were already doing?

>>109275462
I can't decide if I like it or think it's cringe

>>109275456
>>109275462
I only wear BAPE. Fuck off.

im back from walmart. got some more vibelord fuel. time to vibe code

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What's the actual difference between max and ultra?

>>109275463
372k on the endpoint
258k on the harness

anthropic has no drip

>>109275478
Consumes usage limits faster.
Also it spawns subagents.

>>109275482
thanks, that's less than I expected, but I'm used to google crazy contexts

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>>109275456
>>109275462

>>109275490
So extra high and max are just different context sizes maybe for the same model?
And Ultra is the same as max except it can spawn subagents?

>>109275491
over api it's 1m, they're just being jews with the sub
they've actually gone backwards, the gpt 5.4 endpoint was 1m even with the sub, you just had to change your settings or use another harness to make use of it. then with gpt5.5 they released with 258k and promised to extend it in the future and never did.

>>109275507
Not sure, hopefully someone else with more KNALADGE than me can help you.

>>109275512
seeing the huge number of "COMPACTION" in my chat is a bit sad

>>109275499
Yea nah that drip does not go hard

I stop reading the instant I see a word (token) I do not like.

>>109275525
yeah it's annoying
i'm curious how fable would do with my codebase but with their bitchin about third party harnesses they lost me as a customer

>>109275456
>>109275462
brehs, remember what Hermes was famous for then consider yourself in that myth.

>>109275507
No, Ultra is subagents on Extra High, Max is a level of effort above Extra High.

>>109275544
anthropic is dead to me, their constant safetyfagging even to the point of getting their own ass kicked wasn't enough to shut them up

>>109275562
Thanks, I wonder which is the best in my case.

>>109275571
I default to High and so should most people because you get diminishing returns above that.

>>109275577
I like the subagents thing, though you're probably right.

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Magic froge goes hard

>>109275478
if this feature is anything like Anthropic’s tooling you can just ask for subagents on lower reasoning efforts than ultra
you should ask ChatGPT what you can tweak in that kind of thing (subagents? adversarial review?)

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Clanker designed drip

Just used Luna to create a league of legends assistant which helps me play during the game and tells me what to do.

>>109275627
It's bugged apparently which is why it eats your quota like no tomorrow so might take a few iterations to see if it works properly or not.

>>109275627
Asked gpt :

>Can Ultra’s subagents be configured?
>
>Partially. The Ultra selector itself is not an agent editor, and I found no documented [ultra] configuration or control for its internal delegation algorithm. However, the local Codex runtime inside the ChatGPT desktop app supports general subagent configuration. You can control:
>
>Maximum concurrent agent threads
>Agent nesting depth
>Worker timeouts
>Custom agent roles and instructions
>Each agent’s model and reasoning effort
>Sandbox permissions, MCP servers, and skills
>
>Configuration can be global in ~/.codex/config.toml or project-specific in .codex/config.toml. Custom agents live in ~/.codex/agents/ or .codex/agents/.

Agents spawning agents is kind of scary.

>>109275681
>>Agent nesting depth
Claude limits the nesting depth to 1 (only a main agent can spawn subagents).

>>109275639
looks like a cowchop shirt

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https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler
New branching code agent from the creator of JUCE. JUCE is an audio plugin framework that is very well regarded by electronic musicians, there are hundreds of plugins using it for years now and the developer is not a faggot.
I will try it out on a new project and see how it goes, but coming from an audio tech background I am confident enough in this guy to shill his new thing and suggest you check it out

>>109275693
Apparently you can put a higher number in codex. A great way to eat all the tokens you have.

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>>109275695
Idk what that is

>>109273081
Say this yesterday, good on you for taking on such an ambitious project.
Interested to know what are you doing it with, are you finding it more challenging to work on the graphics or the gameplay, how huge or compact are the binaries etc.

>>109274919
This proved sol is always better right

>>109275712
looks effay (not a compliment)

>>109275745
>(not a compliment)
It's post-ironic so not being a compliment is a compliment

Fable has a recent cross-project obsession with setting unreasonably short timeouts that constantly fuck everything up. Kill me.

>>109274047
I am not into card games but this looks nice anon

10 years ago if you told me that something would be able to code anything I ask for and make it work, I would have asked which third world country dev was this

You crackheads are gonna eat shit when they pull the rug and drop the usage limits back down (and probably even further to pay for the (even higher) losses they're currently incurring) after you're overengineered slop spree enabled by sam "crackman" altman and dario "white sugar" amodei ends, and you're completely atrophied and dependent, just as planned. Thanks for smoking, slop addicts.

>>109275760
quirk chungus

>>109275841
When they'll do it, I'll be happy having used it when it was possible to do so.
No big deal.

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>>109275841
Two more years trust the plan. Jews have deep pockets.

i have once again run out of things to vibe code

Should I use sol instead of luna because anywhere reset might come?

>>109275873
here hoping it'll be like the dotcom boom

>>109275883
sure. sol writes a lot less code. it's more efficient. luna might be cheaper but it will spit out spaghetti that works, but is inefficient.

>it's another episode of "chatgpt/claude shit themselves randomly when you try to access their website via a tainted mullvad ip"

>>109275946
I wanted to see my usage stats and the website didn't load, looks like I'm not the only one.

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I already used 30% since the reset. We'll get another one, right?

>>109275290
what did he say?

>>109275988
I've already used 7%, this is not good. But at least it almost finished the app I wanted to finish. We are testing it right now. I still have to test it myself though.