Collage EditionDiscussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109274190https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg
yeah, this the one.
>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
kino op
>>109276259Fuck off debo>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
heres my 1girl pornslop gen now give me my (you)'s
>109276286>1girl>cropped>blur>(lowres:20)
>high noise preview shows exactly what i want from my prompt>once it's all denoised it doesn't have what i wanthow do i fix this
>>109276286debo-esque gen
Yeah, I'm thinking Local Diffusion just fucking won Anyway, rate my 1girl pornslop
Why did debo/ani made another? There is still this one>>109268115>>109268115>>109268115
tfw LDG is so popular and controversial that anons sprint to make troll bakes and report real bakes :D
That's a neat idea: a video collage showing ai vidgen evolution from this humble, soulful beginnings to today's soulless slop.
^shut the fuck up and just post your gens you sad cuck
>>109276276>The way he just doesn't give a fuck and just absolutely shits on all of you at the same timeHow does baking multiple troll threads equal not giving a fuck though?
How is it a troll thread? everything relevant to the thread discussion is there - as well as the "collage" image.
>>109276368i don't know. reddit normies are buck broken by will smith kino
>pretending to not know
Another schizbake, they're proving again and again why those schizos are on a rentry.>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>109276259Real collage
it's not debo or julienit's me :]
>>109276368You evaded the question.
>>109276365>How does baking multiple troll threads equal not giving a fuck though?oh they definitely care, they're paying dozens of proxies just to shit up this place, they put a lot of effort actually
>>109276382I don't have a foot fetish, but those are nice feet.
>>109276383>it's me :]who? another /sdg/ schizo? present yourself
Remember when anon would bake troll threads like 5 times in a row
>(((((((((((((i dont have a foot fetish))))))))))
>>109276408looks like they can do that again, I guess it took them some time to figure out how to bypass the new 4chan security, it was nice when it lasted
>>109276382>my random ass kino I posted out of my gen folder not only made this losers collage - but is the biggest fucking image in the collage.I swear I genuinely am just suffering from success (literally). Keep my kinos out of your dumb ass loser shit.
godplease absolutely scorch california this yearthanks
>>109276413>anon liked your image enough to make it a part of OP>call him a loser oof thats cold
>>109276413Some anon spend entire threads seething because they aren't included in the faggollage and you're upset?
>>109276404I have, I just wish foot chad would make them less dirtyI like dirty feet but only when it's subtle
>>109276419He was trolling all last thread. That's what happens when you're nice to trolls
>>109276413Zendaya anon is just built different.
>sorry for the bumpy ride ;)
>>109276382Third Impact crosses aren't blocky nor solid. They're wide on the base and pointy on the extremes, also they look as if they were made of streams of light. Of course, for reasons I can't explain here...But https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArPEa7rRyUk
>/sdg/ anons shit up /ldg/ againwhy do these faggots not just stay in their generaldo they really want war?
>war
>>109276452i want you to know that these are some of if not the most interesting video gens ive seen. please never stop posting them.
weird how nigbo always has a different posting pattern when the thread gets shit upreally weird
Any Chinaman can translate?
>>109276452do you start with an image or it's all T2V ? and all one shot?
>>109276481another cathag masterpiece to bless us plebeians
>>109276481>you are best husbant. >i am love to you for all way.>your manhood impressive size.
i wish the heckin' cute and valid lumi anon was here
>>109272812> its a model that needs 24gb of VRAM to trainKohyaSS was able to train with 12gb of vram.
>>109276481>Draw me like one of your cat eared girls.
>>109276507>KleinI don't believe you!!!nice gen.
>>109276474thanks>>109276487yes it's fully text to image. i only inject images if i want to put a specific character into the video
this shit is seriously impressive. Not a fan of the many style problems Krea has, but it's the first model which can reproduce space rockets well enough to pass a glance. Their data captioning must have been good.
who baked this shit
>>109276517very nice.
>>109276522>1 step sky filled with noisekrea2 unironically might be the worst local model to have released
I said it like 4 times. Just make sure that shit never happens again.
long dick general
>>109276537all krea2 gens look like shit without a second pass
Is anyone using Comfy in a professional capacity? Feels like everyone here is a NEET gooner.
>>109276560>>109276537Or because the anons are using the Turbo model, not the RAW model with a LoRA which doesn't have that noise issue
>>109276560you do not need a fucking second pass. stop spreading this shit.
>>109276566the dogshit AI coke ad was made in comfy for the low price of 1 million dollars.
>>109276570b-but they said the turbo model is 99% as good!
>>109276566yeah everyone here is a neet gooner.companies who would us aiautists ina professional capacity dont give a shit about the things we bicker about anyway. They are perfectly happy getting a subscription to a slop video generator, then making an ad using it and calling it a day.
>1girl>minority>cross-eyed>(cinematic:15)
>1boy>balding>sexless>(being bred out:15)
You know he must have a stash of the most depraved porn gens of this mulatto girl.
>>109276588Fuck off d*bo. You're the only one who spams /ldg/ with coloreds
>>109276599>>109276607https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdf4duQeNM
>>109276608> mulatto brown, say as is
Why aren't (You) part of the ComfyUI family?
>>109276608Nah, she just has the face for my OCI would use Tati-Gabrielle but Krea doesn't know her.
weird how nigbo seems busy and doesn't post the malware news
>4 accountantswhat kind of tax fraud schemes are they running there
>>109276629im not asian
>>109276629I'm not gay or a tranny
>>109276629why is julien not in the picture of frenship? :(
>>109276629I remember this mf posted in these threads practically everydayfame and fortune really do be changing people
>>109276669obviously he was the one taking the photo.
>>109276680i don't think he changed at all. he just has a professional reputation to maintain now, and with the absolute schizos that lurk here, he knows it's not worth the hassle engaging with these threads anymore. every single person that got big stopped posting on 4chan(notch, risk of rain dev, etc)besides, there's nothing of value posted here that he would benefit from anyway. its just 1girl gooner slop, ani rambling, debo shitposts and other nonsense.
I have literally never seen a krea image that does not look ai generated. It has the SD1.5 style baked in deep.
>>109276703yea but he owes us for basically making him, he was a total noob and would be nothing without us
>>109276413This but the VAE isn't awful
holy demoralization attempts batman
>>109276719lmao. comfyui's development had nothing to do with /g/. he just liked anime and tech and happened to occasionally post updates here
>>109276719hi julien
>>109276731>he just liked animeHah good joke
>>109276703Hate to break it to you - but the minute that mf saw an "out" (aka money) - he changed/sold out, etc. etc.Whatever values he held dear before - he no longer does anymore, and theres genuinely nothing you can do to change that fact cept cope. This is the undeniable truth for every human (except me)
>>109276754you aren't special
>>109276754comfy is still local and free to use. until that changes, he hasn't sold out. obviously he needs to make money to support the people working for him. you cant pay $300k+ salaries on donations anon.
>>109276773>you cant pay $300k+ salaries on donations anonhow does 4chan do it? surely gook moot has to sell something to pay for all the jannies, right?
>>109276773>you cant pay $300k+ salaries on donations anon.source?
>>109276773>comfy is still local and free to use.Its not free - it makes use of several paid APIs. And you can purchase credits for those said APIs.As for local in general, still not free - you need a GPU to do anything.I don't see him putting out free cloud usage for people without GPUs, so until he does that, he's just a grifter and a sell out, simple as.
>>1092767864chan has ads + 4chan passes
>>109276791>Its not freeyou don't have to ever touch APIs. nobody here does, therefore it's free to use. API's are not comfy, it's just something it supports. comfy is a UI.>As for local in general, still not free - you need a GPU to do anything.technically you don't. you can use cpu only, but what a stupid fucking argument. that's not saying browsing the internet isn't free because you need a paid device. what the fuckactually fuck off im not even reading the rest of what you wrote
started messing with zimage. how did i do anons
>>109276791bait?
>>109276819you forgor big boob
>>109276787they just hired an engineering manager from blizzard with 20 years experience to rewrite their execution engine. do you think that guy is not making absolute bank?
>What a stupid fucking argumentSheesh! Anyways - "you don't have to ever touch APIs. nobody here does" Is not an argument. This is called circumstantial evidence. So just because 0.00000000000001% of the planet aren't using the API (that you literally need to make comfyui function without a GPU) doesn't mean it's free. I mean the logic can't get much simpler than that.>Bait call it whatever you want, facts, bait; it's all the same lowk.
Here's some info for kreatards so you spam less slop itthttps://civitai.red/models/2742336/nsfw-krea2-low-vram?modelVersionId=3084226https://civitai.com/models/2727641/krea-2-turbo-lora-256dimhttps://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1uwg6tx/comment/oxj1vxg
>>109276444>He was trolling all last threadAh I missed it in previous but it's pretty clear here now kek
>>109276843blizzard is a sinking ship, he's likely working for pennies.
>>109276872someone in that position would not ever be 'working for pennies'.
Also I should mention I don't think I've ever seen one blogpost from him or interview of him calling out Anthropic or other big players in the AI space for saying "local is dangerous" This is actually the biggest most tell tale sign that he's just grifter moving up the corporate ladder.Once local becomes legislated or completely unaffordable - will he be in this thread rallying all of you or giving out free cloud usage? I fear the answer is no...
>>109276877>grifterhe's rich> moving up the corporate ladder.he is the ceo and has enough money to retire anytime he wants. there is nothing to move up to. he owns the ladder
>>109276819you should use krea2 so your images take longer
>>109276884shut the fuck up grifter.
>ITT: anons jealous of comfy's success
>>109276852>https://civitai.com/models/2727641/krea-2-turbo-lora-256dimVery cool thanks
>>109276912Badass. Prompt?
>>109276884>he owns the ladder...Yeah, that's the accusation. So then you agree.With that being settled, I will close my argument with this: Comfyanonymous is strategically silent to avoid burning bridges - which makes him a coward who'll stay quiet while his userbase gets legislated away.He is a grifter who used the local community as a launchpad for his career. And thats all that she wrote tbhonest
>>109276912Here it is without anon's broken Turbo LoRA>>109276919>there is a man standing in front of a doorway in the desert, by Tim and Greg Hildebrandt, robed, holding wooden staff, sad, portal opening
>>109276938With the broken lora is a million times more interesting desu
>>109276953cope sweaty your lora is shite
is there a poop lora?
>>109276884>he is the ceolmfao no he isn't. comfy is just a cofounder. he doesn't even have majority shares kek>>109276923>userbase gets legislated awayI think more than half the API partners are going to die because saas GPU shittery is a losing strat
>>109276727My image was prompted to be like that though, are you so porn addicted that everything has to be visible pores and noise?
Prompt scheduling is fun to play with in krea.
>>109276954I didn't make it. Anons gen looks like a cool glitchy style thoughever.
at least the stripped loras seem to work.
>>109276975>I prompted the entire image to have VAE ditheringI don't believe you. WTF does "noise" have to do with anything at all here also
>>109276954did you download the right one for Comfy though
>>109276964>API partners are going to die because saas GPU shittery is a losing stratThis makes the legislative threat so much worse.If compute small fry die (the runpods the vast.) that leaves the entire field open to the big corporate giants who will censor your loras and inflate the price of everything.>>109277034Go look at the original DJ Khaled album cover... jesus...
>>109277042I'm guessing no.
>>109276901not jealousdisappointed
>>109277059slop
>>109277046bro all yor images have the exact same Qwenslop dithering, including the one attached to the comment i'm replying to, their hair shows it off most noticeably
>>109277042that was it at least for me.
>>109277046>that leaves the entire field open to the big corporate giants who will censor your loras and inflate the price of everything.even these corps are getting the dick in the ass. businesses that integrated AI now see that they should just buy their own racks and run open source models like glm to get the job done since you don't need a frontier model to review insurance policies or meeting summaries for example
>>109276703I'm a notable poster but I'm still here.
>>109277075OOOOOHHHHH now I see what you mean, Anyways I dont give a shit.
>>109277122I'm also a notable poster
>>109277042>>109277048>krea2_raw_to_turbo_r256_comfy.safetensors
I'm waiting for a Krea 2 gen that is>Stylized (I've seen some nice realistic ones, though they could be cherry picked)>Good-looking (no indian slop)>Unique (no generic shit, it needs to be interesting and soulful)So far nothing I've seen seemed convincing to me if I'm going to be honest. I would like to believe this is a skill issue and most genners just suck or have bad taste, but it could be due to the model
>>109277071She looks very soft.
>>109277206you just know this type of bulgarian bitch would poison you after finding out about your wealth
>>109277206
>>109277223lol why Bulgarian
>>109277206ngl she's kinda my type.
why is the Krea 2 lora section so jeeted
>>109277257I feel like this happens more with models that are more gatekept VRAM wise, since most of the actually cultured people are usually just hobbyists in this space with 8gb GPUs, the model locked them completely out of making LoRAs; but soulless people aren't.
>>109277257What's depressing is these all have 500+ downloads, so there's some demand for it.
https://civitai.red/models/2779347/nsfw-helper-slider-krea2
>>109277244she does look Bulgarian
>>109277278to be fair, hf has the shittiest download handling that cuts off right before it finishes and refuses to pick up where it left off so I would bet half of those is retrying to dl
>>109277257because its a slopped model for normgroids
I once saw a deviantart post that compared my waifu to asuka and I reported the account for self harm with all my burner accounts.
>>109277348ur waifu is trash
^I'll let it slide this time lil bro
whaddup, notable cunts>>109277257"sarcastictofu"
>>109277369neat
I'm the only notable here
>>109277369most of the body should be lit by the sun here and all the deer facing the same way is a little weird
>>109277388based celebrity
>>109277388ani??
>>109277410hell no lmao
>>109277398I just jumped into the krea2 breach, I have no idea what I am doing. gimme a week to figure out samplers and schedulers and everything else. so far tho, pretty impressive.
i wish i was chinese, spent 16hrs daily studying to get into a top chinese uni so i could contribute to ai research. instead im forced to be a bystander, never truly understanding what's going on behind the scenes as innovation after innovation is released until we eventually reach AGI. anyway back to gooning
>>109276259damn I never make it into the collage
>>109277419Nice
is this (without the censor) against the rules? monkaS
>>109277422If it makes you feel better, we may never achieve AGI. It'd be a lot cooler if we did though.
I've been using Illustrious for a while and tried transitioning over to Anima, but I genuinely do not understand the appeal of this model at all?It feels like I'm making MASSIVE compromises in all of the areas I would care most about>consistency/control of artist style from gen to gen>ability to blend multiple styles in a consistent, repeatable way>control of lighting>large number of slider LORAs for finetuning a gen>uncluttered promptingall for the tradeoff of things I care much less about>understanding of simple language prompts instead of tags>very niche scene components>the ability to sometimes correctly render specific text, I guess?I just do not understand the appeal of this model over an Illustrious finetune whatsoever. What am I missing?
>>109277442testicles
>>109277422like 100 people in the world if that have that knowledge, and their lab will fall off at some point too, you can understand most things yourself anyway
>>109277442try the official aesthetic 1.1 version of the modellike with any model, just use/make the lora of the thing you want, and it should be better, but yes, noob/illust are still good
>>109277458It's worse than base...
>>109277458The problem is, having to rely on a specific LORA for a specific singular artist (that may or may not exist) feels like regressing to fucking SD-tier understanding of styles, when a half-decent Illustrious finetune can immediately pick up on and mix/match artists with prompts alone (plus allowing for easy [|] or [:x] operators for ultra-finetuning of artstyle in any of the A1111-based generators).I figured I had to be missing something with Anima, between both the Base and Aesthetic versions and a test of a finetune and all three struggling in really basic ways.
>>109277442maybe you are not missing anything. how many hours have you spent working with illustrious vs anima? making the switch can be hard.
>>109277419looks like SD3
https://gofile.io/d/yg3mL6
>>109277475>The problem is, having to rely on a specific LORA for a specific singular artist (that may or may not exist) feels like regressing to fucking SD-tier understanding of stylesyou will basically always need a lora to get the exact style that you want, since many artists change their art style over time and u usually want it from a very specific pointtrain the lora on the style you want and youll see its better on anima>finetuning of artstyle in any of the A1111-based generatorscomfy also has tag strength that you tune with selecting the phrase and ctrl + arrow up/down like a111
stop replying to him, it's extremely fucking obvious his post is not made in good faith
>>109277442I think Anima is great at maintaining styles and using a natural language is superior, but it really does suck at porn compared to XL. I don't know why. It seems it doesn't matter how creative I try to get, it just doesn't compare to the quality of my XL gens. Im using the WAI Anima fine-tune, so it should have the same knowledge as WAI for XL, but it just feels more stiff. Maybe it's just me.
>>109277587The dataset is too small and the adapter is way too sensitive to training that it just starts fucking up. Those are the biggest flaws of anima that make it that way
>>109277587>but it really does suck at porn compared to XLit doesn't have e621 dataset
>>109277579>you will basically always need a lora to get the exact style that you wantThis isn't true to my experience in Illustrious; the entire advantage of it recognizing so many artists directly in tags is that you're able to blend and combine them in different strengths or at different intervals/timings in the prompt to get the exact look you're aiming for, and often be able to create styles that don't exist for any singular artist in the first place.>comfy also has tag strengthThose operators aren't strength operators, they either alternate parts of a prompt for every other step (so "[red|blue]" would generate red on step 1, blue on step 2, red on step 3, etc.) or allow you to determine a specific step that you want that part of the prompt to begin or end on (so "[red::10]" would include red for the first ten steps and "[blue:10]" would exclude blue until the tenth step).Again, there's so much flexibility and control you get out of Illustrious with its tag recognition that I can't imagine the idea of having to fall back to LORAs just for a consistent style change.>>109277587>I think Anima is great at maintaining stylesThis is where something may be going wrong or I may be especially picky, because I really feel like it does not give me consistent results from even a single artist tag from prompt to prompt (emphasizing some qualities of their style in one output but not the next), and using more than one artist tag at the same time seems to compound this problem even more (one gen looks way more like artist A while the next looks way more like artist B, even though both are present in the prompt).Again, if I'm just not understanding the advantages Anima provides I'd be glad to be steered in the right direction, but right now it seems to perform worse in almost all of the ways I care more about, which is a disappointment.
>>109277607I swear he culled the NSFW poses from danbooru
>>109277592>The dataset is too smallanima objectively knows more characters and artists than noob. knowledge of rare-ish concepts is also generally better>the adapter is way too sensitive to trainingyou don't train the adapter
>>109277619one of the noob members made a benchmark classifier for character accuracy and it's actually worse>>109277619>you don't train the adapterthat is what you are supposed to train instead of the encoder otherwise it all fucks up
You could just post a catbox and let anon change things to show you how it's done, if you are earnestly asking for assistance.
>>109277630>that is what you are supposed to train instead of the encoder otherwise it all fucks upwhy do you disregard the model authors advice?
>>109277630>one of the noob members made a benchmark classifier for character accuracydo you have a source/proof for this or>that is what you are supposed to trainthe official documentation literally says don't train it
>>109277582I MUST REPLY>>109277643The mememark is real but was deboonked the last couple times it was posted. That's why it hasn't been posted in awhile.
>>109277641how else are you supposed to put new concepts into the model? how the fuck are you supposed to fine-tune the fucking thing? Anima is basically the nu-pony model
>>109277636I'm not especially happy with any gen at this point and I'm heading off for the night, but I'll swing back in tomorrow or Thursday to do some direct 1:1 comparisons between what I'd normally do in Illustrious and my attempts at it in Anima. Hopefully should illustrate my main frustration points with it so far.
>>109277587Using a natural language to describe exactly what you want means the model will be less creative. With tags it has to guess your intentions. Try being less descriptive, or using tags + simple sentence only to connect concepts. You shouldn't prompt it like its krea 2.
holy lol anon
>>109277648what was the debunking?
>>109277655>I'm not especially happy with any gen at this pointYeah that's the point you post one that blows and anon shows you how to make it better. >I'm heading off for the nightConsidering it takes less than 10 seconds to upload to catbox and post I will assume you are simply trolling.
>>109277659you prompt it like you would on sdxl - you still get stiff boring single image across every seed.
>>109277651>how else are you supposed to put new concepts into the model?are you saying you attempted to train a concept with the default diffusion-pipe anima config and it did not work?
>>109277668I mean, these are basic testing prompts? They're certainly not good or focused or anything, but whatever, sure. Just seems like a waste since it doesn't actually speak to where I feel like I'm running into the most issues with it.This is when I got tired of trying to wrangle the simple language prompts and just stripped something down to some basic-ass tags, primarily trying to see if it could actually handle multiple artists with any level of consistency prompt-to-prompt.https://files.catbox.moe/tjjedw.pngAnd seriously, I'm off for the night after this, got work in the morning.
>>109277679no anon you see, anima's adapter is actually where all the knowledge is stored because bluvoll told me so. the cosmos DiT is in fact barely trained because tdrusell is incompetent. so you HAVE to train the adapter, since that's where everything is stored, but if you do that it just forgets everything. thus, the model is fundamentally broken
>>109277687>/sdg/stay there
>>109277687This is shit, Debo. Im actually disappointed in you. You seem to be regressing.
>krea 2
>>109277702it is what it is.
>>109277685The best advice I could give right now is to stop using loras until you get a handle on the bare model. There are way too many critiques of the prompt for a single post, I'm sure you'll get plenty of that if you do some comparison posting. Besides your choice of sampler / scheduler and the lack of either a higher base res or second pass.
>>109277621I would kill for a general style lora of that instead of any specific whore
>Anima Aesthetic 1.1 came outI found the results from this one more interesting.
slop this slop thatdo you anons even have benchmark prompts to actually test models?
>>109277739my default prompt has always been "aesthetic california summer street"
>>109277736A little more different from the others, and less weird bits (n = 3).
>>109277711I'm not trying to make quality, ready-to-share outputs when testing (for obvious reason) because what I care about right now is basic judgement of how the model reacts to small changes in a simple prompt in the vanilla workflow. It's why I said these would be pointless to share a catbox for.Right now I'm just looking at, can the model handle very simple specific controls in a prompt (in this case, composition/artstyle from a specific artist or a combination of artists) that I feel Illustrious is able to handle with very little hand-holding. I want to do a proper 1:1 of actual prompts for that exact reason.
what prompt do you put into krea to get pretty Japanese ladiesI get the ugly ones
>>109277655>but I'll swing back in tomorrow or Thursday to do some direct 1:1 comparisons between what I'd normally do in Illustrious and my attempts at it in Anima.Make sure you do not label which is which, use a merge instead of base illustrious but still label it "illustrious", and do not include any information about the prompt or settings. >>109277745>I want to do a proper 1:1 of actual prompts for that exact reason.If you prompt both like they are SDXL derived models (which is whay your catbox says) then of course the SDXL derived model will look better. I implore you to read more about the model from both the author and randoms whose outputs you like.
>>109277744Nipi style gets shinier.I like it better than Aesthetic 1 so far from just these three prompts, but I need to try it more. Aesthetic 1 had other style tendencies I disliked during further testing that made me prefer 1b in the last few days.
>>109277759*If you prompt both like they are SDXL derived mixesdesu
>>109277759>I implore you to read more about the model from both the author and randoms whose outputs you like.I've been following the tag instructions on the official HF (https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima) as listed, in the order it's suggested they should be used. There's no real "prompt" here in the sense that I'm not looking for any specific composition or output beyond the extremely basic boring tags I tossed in for testing.If there's better guidance out there for how a simple Anima prompt should be handled I'd love to read it.When it comes time to test a prompt 1:1, I can go with tags or simple language, or both, for Anima, depending on what you suggest. The way the official documentation reads, it seems like it expects you to be using tags to at least some degree, and I wasn't looking to depict a specific scene when I was testing artist style/composition.
>>109277697i think it's a cute gen
going off vibes anima preview1 mogs all subsequent versions. more creative, less slopped look
>>109277776>The way the official documentation reads, it seems like it expects you to be using tags to at least some degreeI only drop into NLP if the composition requires it i.e. [the boy] is holding [the girl] or [the girl] is seen to the left of the image and to the right is a text bubble that reads...>If there's better guidance out there for how a simple Anima prompt should be handled I'd love to read it. I suppose if you're having trouble with shorter prompt then perhaps one of the distills - the aesthetic or turbo loras - would help. I can't say I encountered the same difficulties, at least not anymore.
holy fucking nlp cope. show us an output and if it's slop, shut the fuck up already. jesus
>>109277775>>109277779>>109277790>>109277803model?
>>109277759Oh, and to follow up on>use a merge instead of base illustrious but still label it "illustrious"Tell me if I'm being stupid here, but this seems like an odd restriction to me given I'm trying to compare between my current preferred Illustrious finetune and if what is currently available for Anima can be a step up from that or at least a solid sidegrade for different uses.I couldn't care less about some objective benchmark between base Illustrious and base Anima, I care about what is the best of what I have available to use for them for myself right now. Am I missing something there?>>109277798I, honestly, didn't see very much practical difference between Base and Aesthetic, at least in the simple prompts. I'm avoiding Turbo while trying to judge if this thing can perform in a way that would have me wanting to swap from Illustrious, at least for now.Anyway, gone for real now.
tldr, anima isn't worth it
>109277810why are you so angry?
>>109277821I am tired of anima shills bending over backwards to keep people wasting their time to try a flawed model. it's been out for months and it really was a side grade with a tradeoff of style degradation and slop sheen.
>>109277829ara ara...
>>109277810Which part was the cope? >>109277815I understand what you're saying but take this into account. The path of the "best of illustrious" is something like this: SDXL > Kohaku > Illustrious > Illustrious/Noob mix > 100 lora mix This encompasses nearly three years of development. Really more like two and a half. Now look at Animas timeline:Cosmos (a shitty world model for robots) > AnimaThis is about seven months time. Why not go further and use all the controlnets, regional prompting, etc tooling with SDXL? Because then you are not testing the capabilities of the model itself, you're testing the capabilities of the tooling. And it's unfair to compare three years of community support to seven IMO.
>>109277815>I, honestly, didn't see very much practical differenceThey give the same sort of rigidity as the plethora of mixes and merges for various models. So you might find them more desirable to use in this way.
>>109277702did you ask the AI to make her legs so ugly or did it do that on its own?
>>109277812Krea 2 with a to be released lora
>>109277829link to the last time you posted an xl gen
>>109277775>>109277895>>109277930Kino
>>109278012?
>>109278016Not kino
>>109277621High quality, one of top 100 images /ldg/ ever made.
>>109278026>High quality>messed up hands
>>109278026how would you define "quality"?
>>109278033I like it=high quality. Simple as.
Anons, I'm trying to img2img a drawing of mine into a realism painting, think The Unequal Marriage.Any recommendations for checkpoints? I have been out of the loop since illustrious came out.
>>109278102Local models are a meme for this kind of thing, just use Chatgpt (gpt-img 2), and if it doesn't feel painterly enough, only then use the GPT result running img2img in a local model with a lora trained on paintings
>>109278114She's topless so chatGPT won't take my input because they're retarded prudes. It's not even pornographic, but you know.
>>109278127Just overlay a bra, pasties or somethingThen you just inpaint her tits later with a local model
>>109278102>checkpointsare you russian
>>109278146No, I'm Spanish.
>>109278102try an editing model. or just use gpt images 2 to gen a sfw image then inpaint it or use an editing model later.
>>109278146Checkpoint is a standard term in this industry. Are you a retard? I think you already answered my question.
>check profile of the poster>its a jeetClassic.
GOOD MORNIGN SAAR!HOW IN THE BITCH MOTHERFUCKDO I GENERATE PROMPT
>>109276833lol this. I really when this happens, especially after I get a good seed.
>>10927688710/10 for mutts
Also a kind reminder that Krea2 genners are all jeets.
krea2 inpainting possible?I have a wf but the result comes with red pixels. it worked a few times but I forgot which model and clip pairing I've used, it changed the masked area a bit but not significantly.
>>109276819looks good, in par with krea2
what's the deal with krea2 hate? is it better than ideogram? last I checked 2 weeks ago ideogram was kind of censored and slower.
>>109278102Your best bet by far is Krea 2 edit LoRA trained by Ostrishttps://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1uq1hz0/krea_2_identity_edit_lora/No idea why anons here are recommending other approaches. Krea 2 by far is SOTA for img2img and inpainting tasks, and the only reason it's not SOTA at edit is because a dedicated edit model is not released, every other model is obsolete.
>>109278328Stole the thunder of someone's precious favorite model is my guess.
https://civitai.com/models/2775340/krea2-textfusion-refusal-reduction-lorathis filter bypass lora works very well at 1.0 strength, idk if it's better than the previous one but it works perfectly fine.
what's the first thing you do after getting beamed to your ayy gf?
>>109278328china and turdrussel afraid
>>109277722Kino
>>109278406Ask the ayy why did she beam me up when she knows I only like asian milfs
>>109278328its not a bad model but its worse than ZIT for 1girl realism and its worse than anima/noob/illust for anime so theres no point in using it, kreakeks sperg out when reminded about this and so you get people shitting on them
I think the Krea 2 devs censored very specific words in the model (at least Turbo, not sure Raw). It actively refuses to write "cum", "penis", "rape", "nigger", "faggot" etc unless you trick it into writing the letters one after another. They censored it more aggressively than Ideogram perhaps, yet the pretrained base do know how pussies and cocks look like when you push it with loras etcAnd even if you to a light training to restore the ability to do NSFW, it sometimes still refuses to do nudity in scenes that are significantly different in prompts from the training set, and also specifically refuses to nudify celebrities unless you name celebrities in the training set.I'd be interested to know the full extent of their censoring, there seems to have some tailoring for the refusals.
>>109277442For what it's worth I also prefer IL slopmixes. Style blending is my main reason. I respect anima though.
what exactly should I update to get krea2 in clip type?
>>109278459>They censored it more aggressively than Ideogram perhapsIt definitely is. Ideogram loves to cuck you with a surface level filter but once you're past that (which is trivially easy) the model won't refuse things as simple as writing cum. And also doesn't require degrading the quality of your gens with bypass loras or nodes
>>109278526I wonder how much of the model's prompt alignment got damaged as a result of the "safety" training
>>109278566Like, LLM abliteration often introduces some retardation/brain damage to the model despite the goal being uncensoring, I'd imagine training an image model to -not- display certain words or visuals is just as damaging
how do i get more natural compositions with z image? like if i prompt "elf girls on all fours surrounded by goblins" it will be a flat angle of the elf in he middle and the goblins in a perfect semi circle facing the camera
>>109278328Both Ideogram and ZiT are better than Krea2 for photorealism out of the box (sadly it's very slopped), but Krea2 Lora training + Turbo model inference speed is making up for it on my end>>109278442I bet that if you train a big enough anime lora or photorealism lora for Krea2, the results will be just as good as Anima or ZiTMy lora training results have mostly been good so far
>>109278628I don't know
>>109278628prompt "dynamic angle"
>>109278628Train a lora in the style+composition you preferAlso, something some of you anons shouldn't be afraid to do is training on your own outputs (picking the best images for certain prompts), that's what essentially RL training is in the endI know many people here hate training on synthetic images and thinks it's slop, but sometimes it just works
I get him now... He was ahead of his time. No real foid will ever get to the level of my genfu.
>>109278675This is especially easier nowdays with gptimg2 existing. You can just touch up a few images by asking it to make some changes and build your training set
>>109276259For the next bake, could /adt/ be added to the thread neighbours list? The general has been running for 1 year now.
>>109278361>Stolenothing was stolen, Krea 2 is not a popular model at all
I tried krea 2, both raw and turbo, in q8. It's dogshit? Not only does it not understand what naked means when refering to video game characters but it also can't get the simplest poses properly (sitting on the bed instead of standing bent over it) why is this garbage in the OP? SDXL supremacy.
>>109278861What's the prompt
>>1092788872 lines of natural language
>>109278757It's dead anyway
>>109278990Don't use prompt enhancer unless you fix the default prompt instruction / use an ablitetratred model.Use NSWF loras. Shouldn't be a problem.
>>109278852zit is better than kreeeeeeee
if a new model is truly fully better than the older one, nobody would even care about the older one enough to mention them in a comparison.
>>109279006The other anime diffusion generals and SDG are also pretty dead at this point. ADT is only slightly deader than them, but I still think they deserve their own space here.
>>109279097Slop
ok
>>109279097Not slop. Maybe a little bit.
>>109279108
>>109278861the model is better than sdxl and has great potential if only more people put time and effort into making more loras for it. Too many lazy fags want the base model to do everything and hopefully include editing features.
>>109278236don't laugh. india now ranks among the world's top four powers
>>109279194>the model is better than sdxl and has great potential if only more people put time and effort into making more loras for itI already read that so many times , you don't get bored of thinking the same for every new model that realeases?
>>109279194It already has 1000+ loras on Civitai 4 weeks after the release, considering it's 12b model requiring 16gb+ of vram to train.
>>109278861don't use your sdxl prompts on krea. i got the same poor results; you need to tweak things. desu, krea is better, especially for the background and facial details
>>109279269you are sick in the head.
>>109279116Do you want schizos? Because that's how you get them
>>109279267offloading allows basically anyone to train any model over 1 or 2 nights no matter what.
fresh when ready>>109279331>>109279331>>109279331>>109279331>>109279331
>>109279267>12b model requiring 16gb+ of vram to traindoesn't ai-toolkit have ramtorch
>>109278498-100 for supporting a grifter
>>109276791You'd sell out in an instant if you could. Comfy is decent free software. You're free to use whatever fucked up shit comes with each model on its github page. Oh... you don't know how to make it work on your hardware? You don't know how to quant the model? There's a censoring thing you don't know how to remove? Get fucked, loser.
NON SCHIZO BAKE>>109279443>>109279443>>109279443
>>109279298like your mom!
>>109278628>ZiT not being able to follow a prompt that isn't 1girl standing>Surprised_Pikachu.jpg
