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What chinese tech products do you really use?
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>>109276578
Just bought a 3lb Chinese lithium battery to replace the 40lb lead weight in my Z3.
My Pro Intellimouse was made in China. Love that thing.
I have Chinese flashlights. Chinese charging cables. Chinese jump pack. Chinese power banks.
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>>109276578
lenovo
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>>109276631
dogshit
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>>109276578
The only true china original I use is a thermal camera. 3D printer too I guess, but it's running open source firmware.
US market thermal cameras are capped to 9 FPS and dogshit resolution by law if they're to be exported, which all consumer ones are. Chinese ones are a fraction of the price and usually 25 FPS.
I went for a USB-C one, which presents itself as a webcam so it can be used even if I don't want to use their software (there are thirdparty open source programs available). The phone app kinda weirds me out so I disallowed it from running in the background, and only run it in airplane mode. The only thing I found when decompiling it was ordinary analytics, but still.
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>>109277083
Why that restriction still exists I don't understand. Maybe it made sense when only western countries were capable of making decent thermal cameras, but all it accomplishes now is letting china take the market with no competition. Major self own.
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None. I don't use low quality crap.
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>>109276578
>GDP per capita reports by the vatican
I'm amazed they even share this
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>>109276578
Why is the Ukraine such a shithole? lmao
The EU promised them incredible riches 11 years ago.
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>>109278711
every shithole that joined the EU got way richer than before. that's just a fact.
ukraine will as well once putler has enough of slaughtering russian males.
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>>109279069
this just look at lithuania in 1990 and lithuania now, it went from being the poorest country in europe gdp per capita to being pretty developed
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Prostitutes
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>>109276578
>per capita
>vs china
1. you are retarded
2. china lies about their population number
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>>109279069
>every shithole that joined the EU got way richer than before
joining the EU and being richer are unrelated. you are retarded
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>>109279817
>in 1990
yeah. when fucking communism fell. it was poor because communism, not because it wasn't in the EU. how the fuck are all of these other countries that are not in the EU rich? fucking idiot
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>>109279923
cope, ivan. slavshits are living on EU gibs.
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>>109279923
How is it going for Britain again?
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>>109279931
literally every single poor shithole in europe like lithuania or croatia got extremely rich from the eu to the point they now have a higher gdp per capita than japan.
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>>109279931
>it was poor because communism
PRO TIP: every single country's economic state has an explanation that can be attributed to it, much like communism, it doesn't change the fact that was stated above. It's not like poor countries are like that because they are subhumans, there's usually explanations for it and where the government / ideology failed. Lithuania was the poorest shithole in Europe, and now it's doing alright, and that's not because the quality of people living there changed, but because they joined the EU and with that changed their institutions, and also adopted a free market economy. Cope and seethe.
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>>109279931
show on this graph when communism fell and when Romania joined the EU.
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>>109279961
well, which one is it, schizo? is the EU bringing prosperity or are slavic countries being exploited for cheap workers and kept on gibs? it can't be both, retard
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>>109280046
do you even know what gdp is, faggot?
>but because they joined the EU and with that changed their institutions
then why is romania still europe's toilet? why have their institutions not changed? one of the most corrupt countries in the EU. i guess the eu doesn't change institutions, does it?
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>>109280185
who said something about being exploited, retard?
the gibs are for the governments who can use it to build shit or embezzle it.
the people get to work in the west for higher wages and send the money home.
either way they're getting richer.
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>>109280189
yeah, I know what GDP is. you apparently don't.
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>>109280213
>who said something about being exploited, retard?
i am saying it. of course you wouldn't admit it
>the gibs are for the governments who can use it to build shit or embezzle it.
this is the ONLY place the supposed "eu gibs" go. into politician bellies
>the people get to work in the west for higher wages and send the money home.
how the fuck does that benefit the people at home? they're not the same people
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>>109280221
if you are using gdp as a metric to prove any point here it means you are either retarded or you don't know what gdp is
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>>109280234
yeah, many of them are the same people, retard.
they work in the west over the summer and then have enough savings to sit on their asses at home the rest of the year.
why would I admit to something that is obviously not the case?
I have the data to prove it. all you have is cope.
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>>109280189
>i guess the eu doesn't change institutions
The prerequisite to joining the EU is a bunch of government reforms, i.e. changing the way the institutions work. Every single prerequisite is concerned with that. There is no other demand, they are not asking you to meet a certain "rich" threshold, they are simply asking you to make institutional reforms akin to the EU's.
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>>109279817
Lithuania had 3.7 million people in 1990 and has 2.8 million now.
If it is doing so well, why is every Lithuanian, who is able to, leaving the country?
That shithole produces more refugees per capita than a war zone.
>but but once putler is gone the EU will make Ukraine rich for real this time
There were EIGHT YEARS between 2014 and 2022. What did the EU do during that time of total ownership over Ukraine? Why didn't they prosper?
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>>109280274
>I have the data to prove it
you are a fucking homosexual
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>>109280307
Not even one single country from the dozen Eastern European shitholes that joined 2004 became a net contributor.
They are just useless gypsies producing refugees on mass and holding everyone else down by being leeches.

The EU doesn't fucking care about economy. Otherwise they would have never added those shitholes. Half of the EU countries are third world.
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>>109280243
cope. the GDP PPP went up even more than GDP.
the Romanian standard of living skyrocketed after joining the EU. that's a fact.
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>>109280307
romania was let to join the eu by skipping some reforms
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A52019DC0499
you are a fucking clown
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>>109280325
The vast majority of those left right as it joined, as, like I said, all the EU does is demand a bunch of government and economic reforms, it doesn't mean success overnight, but it means improvement overnight. It is not going to equalize the standard of living overnight, so many Lithuanians left for the UK to work once they joined the EU. But now, there's not really much incentive for them to leave anymore, as things really have improved substantially in the last 20 years almost entirely thanks to the EU.
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>>109280339
now do purchasing power and taxes, you retarded faggot
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>>109280332
I've already posted three graphs by now to support my point.
You're at zero with a bunch of cope and namecalling.
Time to call it a day, Ivan.
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>>109280343
>like I said
every lying faggot ALWAYS has to say "like i said", because you always have something completely unrelated to repeat "like you said". you fucking retarded homo. nobody cares btw, the EU offices will be purged of you homosexuals and it will be back to a trade union, no more retarded faggotry
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>>109280342
That changes nothing about what I had said. The EU's primary purpose is to equalize institutions and demand reforms from member states. It is an ideological and economic union.

>Romania was allowed to make exceptions
Yes, this was primarily to minimize Russia's influence and to have a land route to Greece, as Greece has major European ports. It, again, changes nothing.

>b-but you're a fucking clown
You're a retard.
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>>109280350
you post random shit that proves nothing. you keep implying that gdp means prosperity. you're a fucking retard
>ivan
keep patting yourself on the back that i'm russian, you delusional homo
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>>109280354
You type like a hysterical low IQ woman that is on xer period. How may I help you, saar? You reek of retardation and you've been wrong about every single claim you've made so far.
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>>109280355
>The EU's primary purpose is to equalize institutions and demand reforms from member states
well it failed
also, the eu's primary goal was to be a trade union. the onle thing we as citizens are getting is taxes for homosexual faggotry. everything is expensive. global stats prove this. we are called "europoor" for good reason. you are a homosexual
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>>109280350
He's a retard shitskin, you can tell by the way they type. Lacking intelligence in both arguments and the structure of sentences.
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>>109280355
>>b-but you're a fucking clown
you are a clown. did you even fucking read the document? oh i know, only gdp and whatever bullshit you say matters

>>109280365
you are only seething, my typing is impeccable
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>>109280347
what do you think GDP (PPP) per capita is, you nigger?
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>>109280365
>eu stooge cocksucker pretending he's not a commie faggot and throwing rightwing insults around
whatever you say, retard homo
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>>109280398
when nvidia and openai cumswap money, that increases gdp. and you think that's a good thing. it doesn't mean the country is doing better if number big. do you need a drawing, you fucking caveman?
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>>109280376
It didn't fail at all. It implemented a bunch of reforms within Romania, and that gypsy country benefited a ton from those reforms. Romania having been allowed to join before completing those reforms doesn't refute my initial statement, as this was a geopolitical and strategic decision, and as they ended up making those reforms anyway.

There is nothing else that the EU demands from potential member states. All the prerequisites are simply reforms that equalize it ideologically with the rest of the union. It doesn't ask them to have a certain level of development, it doesn't ask them to have a certain GDP per capita, all it asks is that it reforms its government akin to the EU standards. So, you've been wrong, and you will now seethe and never admit you're wrong because it's in your shitskin nature.
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>>109280410
so you don't know what it is and you're too lazy to look it up.
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>>109280398
why don't you go by median gdp? too afraid?
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>>109280420
>median gdp
HAHAHAHAHAH "median gross domestic product", troll or retarded, call it? Do you think GDP = wages or something?
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>>109280429
>Do you think GDP = wages or something?
so you admit that gdp doesn't mean how good people are actually doing. thanks, retarded. finally you admit it
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>>109280459
>I was retarded
>I'm gonna be even more retarded
GDP means what it means, what it is defined as and it serves that purpose well as a metric. GDP has an extremely high correlation with every other positive metric of well-being and how well people are doing, including wages.

I could argue with you further, but after realizing you don't even know the definition of what you're arguing, and after considering just how unintelligent, annoying, and rude you are, I will simply call you brown and not waste any more time on you.
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>>109280478
>I could argue with you further
i'd rather you go rope yourself, you faggot
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>>109280478
>GDP means what it means
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>>109280459
>>109280478
please take that shit to /pol/, I'm sick of hearing about copebelt, ukraine and russia.
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>>109280487
>>109280500
Samefag meltie after being gang-raped by several anons and exposed as a brainlet
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>>109280505
>copebelt, ukraine and russia
you're the only retard mentioning any of those
the EU is a scam, i hope you suffer when it goes down. boo hoo you'll need a passport to travel OOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>109280521
you're a delusional retard who thinks gdp is a good indicator
you're a faggot
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>>109280533
nta but please stop typing your retardation radiates and has the same effects as cancer
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>>109280459
listen, you nigger. GDP per capita and GDP (PPP) per capita are not the same thing or I wouldn't have bothered to type those letters.
yes, it's a good measure to tell that people are doing better.
but let's look at average wages. oh, they skyrocketed as well. what a surprise, not.
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>>109280581

thats just inflation
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>>109280581
even their shitty third-world currency stabilized after joining the EU and their debt stopped ballooning.
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>>109280523
>the EU is a scam
it's not a scam. it's tool/vessel for neoliberal capitalism that simplifies deployment of capital and skimming subsequent profits.
the victim does get small part of the pie in the end that's why all the east euros are so happy about it but most of it goes back to those owning the initial capital.
pic kinda related
as for quality of life, nah, you can buy more shit because capitalism needs you to buy shit yet things that matter the most like housing, those are unobtainable to working class in EU.
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Technology?
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>>109280613
euro is not stable currency tho. I'm in Croatia and we got fucked by euro hard. Everything got super expensive and inflation is highest in like 40 years.
Almost feels like monopoly money, even buying from places like aliexpress is now super expensive how weak euros is and this new EU taxes/tariffs things make it even more worthless.
How to fix it? Idk, I just want out of it and will vote accordingly.
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>>109280655
>Croatia
gypsy turkish rape baby slav mutt subhuman
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>>109276578
Probably most everything I use is made in China. I don't have many things that are outright Chinese brands, my OnePlus phone and my BOOX e-reader are probably the main things I use that're made by Chinese companies and not just manufactured there. I have a FiiO BT DAC too, pretty sure that's also a chink company and I think I have some other minor knick-knacks around the house as well.

>>109278711
It's kinda hard to get rich when Russia is attacking you and occupying your territory since 2014 or some such.
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>>109276965
lenovo keyboard is superior to IBM in almost every way except fn being in the wrong spot and there's a BIOS option for it
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>>109280667
>infinite cope
>every country is doing poorly
>gypsy turkish rape baby slav mutt subhuman
ok, retard. you'll get shot in the head, you dumb commie
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>>109280804
>It's kinda hard to get rich when Russia is attacking you and occupying your territory since 2014 or some such.
damn, shouldn't have given russia the excuse with all that nazi ethnic cleansing, huh?
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>>109280897
the only ethnic cleansing taking place is
ziggers getting blown up by drones.
half a million russian males have already been killed for banan, to be replaced by hordes of jeets and niggers.
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>>109280991
>le ukraine is winning face
ok, dude
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>>109280991
inflation is nearly 10% in romania now, the highest in europe btw. you retard
>muh EU!
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>>109280991
ruh roh
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>>109281181
so still lower than before joining the EU?
>>109281172
I didn't say that.
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>>109281210
>so still lower than before joining the EU?
>11.9 vs 10.something
you are a nigger
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>>109280991
what a fucking idiot you are. with all that 40% inflation, things were more affordable back then vs now. all the eu did was make everything more expensive
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Why are there so many Europoor shitskins sperging out here?
Keep your shit in r/europe or die in a trench for trans rights in Ukranda.
Nobody cares. Fuck off with your offtopic garbage.
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>>109281231
that's just a blatant lie. I've posted enough stats to the contrary.
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>>109281267
I mean imagine trying to downplay 40% inflation. you people have serious brain damage.
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>>109277083
>3D printer too I guess, but it's running open source firmware
>but it's running open source firmware
>i am le safe
OOOGABOOOGABOOOO THE CHINESE ARE GONNA HACK YOUUUU. fucking nigger. do you really think that the "open source software" could save you if someone really wanted to hack you through obscure hardware?
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>>109281284
there is no cure for your homosexuality except for a bullet in the head
what part of "things were more affordable" do you not understand? go eat some inflation, you dumb nignog
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>>109281300
what part of that's a blatant lie did you not understand, nigger?
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>>109281310
you calling it a lie doesn't make it a lie, you retard
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>>109281316
I posted a dozen stats proving the opposite. you retards have not posted a single one.
there's no source that I can quote that will dissuade you from your delusions.
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>>109279961
This graph is intentionally misleading. Western block was buttfucked by communism for generations, at the same time your western countries received gibs from Marshal plan.
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>>109281496
Eastern*
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>>109281440
It's the same braindead brown samefagging
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>>109281496
ok, so? those things have nothing to do with the EU.
Germany doesn't owe Poland anything just because it benefited from the Marshall plan while Poland suffered from commies.
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>>109281517
>posting statistics with sources is brown
>posting feelings is white
why is it you can't manage to post a single fact to support your point, you nigger?
even I could manage to cherrypick something in support of your point from the top of my head.
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>>109281539
WW2 has nothing to do with Germany, got it.
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>>109281597
what does that have to do with EU gibs? you think you're owed reparations or some shit?
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>>109276578
My (non-smart) doorbell.
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>>109280825
That's not the issue.
Chinknovo computer age like milk. If you don't replace them every three years, they are a stuttering mess.

HP is the real MVP. Their workstation, laptop, and server all performs better than chinknovo's, in my experience.
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>>109280339
You'll only realise just how bad things really are in there when you live that shithole behind, bwo.
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>>109281440
>even though some essentials have become less affordable
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO yes thanks for the poverty but at least we have wifi, you dumb nigger
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>>109276578
>be me, french
>chinese phone (xiaomi 14T pro)
>playing chinese gacha games (ZZZ, Genshin, NTE, Endfield, yada yada)
>some xiami earbuds that i forgot the name (got some handmedown samsungs ones though)
>chinese car (MG3)
>Fanxiang SSD (2tb)
>Xiaomi weight balance
>xiaomi mi 30 hfcw
i'm chinkpilled i guess
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>>109281286
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I got all my family on Chinese phones (Realme, OnePlus etc.)
I got my wife to buy a BYD electric shitbox
Personally I don't use any Chinese tech (unless you consider my company issued iPhone China-made)
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>>109283015
>I got all my family on Chinese phones (Realme, OnePlus etc.)
>I got my wife to buy a BYD electric shitbox
>Personally I don't use any Chinese tech
what is this ccp agent tier level of getting your loved ones to use spyware but not using it yourslef
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>>109282815
what part of my message do you need an explanation for, you fucking retard? if a chink wants to hack you, he'll do it with a hardware implant
MUH OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE won't save you
you dumb nigger
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>>109285749
Every chip in it is fully documented, the flash has been completely overwritten, and all network traffic is monitored. This isn't some mystery black box. I've had it apart to mod it and am familiar with the hardware.
Even if there was some mystery chip buried in it that could inject itself into the firmware it would be caught quickly and burn the (established btw) company's reputation to the ground. 3D printing is a field full of people who love to dig into the hardware and software alike.
I don't know whatever spy movie fantasy you think you're living in, but there are far easier ways to hack ordinary people than that. Criminals don't want to waste their time either.
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>>109276578
no chance in hell russia has higher gpt per capita than ukraine
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>>109278711
yeah open market trade Ukraine is the bread basket of the world, as a matter of fact GPT per capita has beat russia when putin invaded, he could not allow Ukraine to have higher GPT per capita than russia because typical russian would start questioning how is their country with all the oil, not doing better than ukraine

i am convinced this is the reason he invaded
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>>109285947
Are you retarded? Ukraine has the lowest gdp per capita in Europe, on par with Kosovo and Albania
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>>109285955
>Low iq
How are there so many functionally retarded people on the technology board?

>In 2021, Ukraine’s GDP per capita was $4,828 in nominal terms, and approximately $14,000 when adjusted for purchasing power parity (PPP)

>Ukraine’s nominal GDP per capita is forecast to be approximately $6,980 in 2026, up from around $6,500 the previous year, according to Worldometer data compiled from the IMF. When adjusted for Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), the GDP per capita is projected to reach approximately $16,530 according to models from Trading Economics.
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>>109280533
replace the name with Goldman and Sachs
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>>109285963
alright you fucking retard, GPT per capita is the wrong number to use here, because russia extracted and sold billions of USD of oil, but money went into putin's pocket and the entire regime machinery.
So GPT per Capita measures economic output divided by population, not how much income or wealth the average person actually has.


typical single use russian never saw or benefitted from that money, the better number to use is, there is also a massive factor here called Moscow, moscow is like its own separate country, you literally cannot be there without a concept of `pacпopяжeниe` basically if you are a piece of shit russian from buryatia or whatever the fuck other asshole and you show up in Moscow, and a police asks you for your documents, if you do not have `pacпopяжeниe` of some kind, or the most basic type would be proof of moscow residency, you will literally be detained or fined

now that you understand how different Moscow is, you need to further understad that whole russian economy business is concentrated in moscow, which naturally causes population explosion, officially about 22 million people, and due to `pacпopяжeниe` issues the true number is around 25-27 million, thats like 17-20% of whole russian population, paying same rent as in NYC, getting paid relatively similar salaries as in NYC, driving cars same as people in NYC.

But this grossly skews and inflates the numbers
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>>109286039
>he writes an entire low iq page of brown turdworlder rage screeching about alcoholic ziggers

No one gives a fuck about you or Russia. You're both dysfunctional brown turdworld countries.
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>>109276578
I have 3 lenovo laptops. 2 from work and 1 I bought cuz IBM used to own them.

>>109281440
>>109280991
>>109280623
I love how nobody can argue against the EU because they publish their data freely like this so it's trivial to shut down europhobe retards.
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>>109285955
>lowercase russia
>uppercase ukraine
draft evading much?
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Every single part in all of my and your electronics has come from China.
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>>109286971
based china
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>>109286456
>I love how nobody can argue against the EU because they publish their data freely
awesome!
Can you link to the contract that Von der Leyen made in the name of the EU made with Pfizer?
How about net contributor numbers? Can i see how much Lithuania contributes to the EU?
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Ever since the EU shut down StopKillingGames and then adopted Chat Control in the same week, the shilling of that dystopian hellhole is on overdrive.
Imagine any other country on the world shilling THIS bad.



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