>get ticket>me: "claude, do ticket">colleague: "claude, do review">me: "claude, implement review changes"This cannot work in the long run, can it?
don't worry about it
>>109279355>get ticket>me: "type characters on ide, click run">colleague: "types characters on ide, clicks run"me: "type characters on ide, click run"This cannot work in the long run, can it?
>>109279355"Computer do thing."> ERRORR ERRROERR WRRROR FAILURE *smoke fumes rising*The past seems more unsustainable.
>>109279355Just don't think about itCare about the present and tonight's dinner only
>>109279355>automated db backups in cloud, outside your control>IaCThe only things you need in any business for business code to not destroy it in one deployment. just look at gitlab data loss and how nobody really cares about it now l. If you can rollback then who cares just ship it
>>109279362>>109279382>>109279385but what are we being paid for?
>>109279374That unironically was more sustainable. Steeper learning curve and erroring out fast enabled catching problems early on, encouraged thinking about the architecture, and served as a gate preventing bad ideas from getting buteforced into production and burning real budget + serving as an expanded attack surface.>>109279385You cant rollback a cloud invoice, a data leak, or time itself among other things.
>>109279416It creates a lot of innovation.
>>109279416you were supposed to actually review those changes and apply your expertise to prevent ai from doing something stupid.
>>109279491>to prevent ai from doing something stupid.i can't be realistically expected to review a PR that touches a hundred files
>>109279513it doesn't matter business will hold you accountable for "your" changes.
>>109279513why dont you make smaller PRs
>>109279541does it matter if it's 100 small PR's or 1 big PR, he still ain't reviewing em all lol
>>109279513this is turning every job you just gotta do your best and hope that the workload the overlords give you isn’t more than you can handleand if it’s then I guess you’re going to get fired so that’s something to look forward to
>>109279416The confidence that we have in our taste and our ability to express what we feel
>>109279513>single ticket touches hundreds of files, no review even though you just saved hours of workdoesn't matter you're about to be fired or promoted soon
>>109279355>This cannot work in the long run, can it?correct, we stopped reviewing each other's code. this full rewrite is going to turn out great I just know it
>>109279541If I don't commit 50k lines per day my boss gets angry. Everyone knows that reviews are over.
>>109279368didn't even work for the duration of your post. you fucked up the greentext syntax.
Obviously not. And that's why all these "you will be left behind" people are retards. If all you are is a prompt generator, then you are also unnecessary.
>>109279513>"Claude make minimal changes, apply DRY, KISS and YAGNI principles."wew was it hard.
>>109280147>product prompt injects your workflow with a batshit insane jira ticket violating all of those principles with highest priority>you wake up to a 100k LOC commit that your global teammates have already shipped off to production and buried 20 layers deep under their own agent slopGg m8 enjoy the clean up.
>>109280147>claude do YAGNI> it proceeds to delete itself
>>109280290>>109280340>things that never happenI work with it, keep your fanfictions on AO3 luddites
>>109280361cope harder slopper. nothing u ever made has value
>>109279355That's the idea, yes. Once the Jews accumulate enough data to prove they don't need the goyim anymore, then the layoffs start. If it fails then they can hire a billion pajeets for 14 dollars to fix it.
>>109280370>transsexual getting madDo a flip
>>109280147>"Claude just write good code"
yeah I guess instead of team of programmers you will have one prompter (the project lead or his fuck toy), claude implements the code and tests, reviews it and runs the tests.
>>109279355It does—but not in the way you're thinking: AI allows everyone to start their own business—AI replaces labor entirely. If you do not possess the entrepreneurial spirit of American exceptionalism you will not be welcome in the future. Face it—AI is the future and you will get with the program and become a Founder or you will die penniless on the streets.
>>109279416You are being paid to be a backup in case the AI fails—once the people who actually do work at the business gain enough confidence in AI you will be terminated.
Bit scared bros, should I just sell my company stocks because every software company will go bankrupt?
>>109279355this is exactly our workflow now. but pretty much all we do is fix minor shit and add minor features. actual development has stalledin the beginning of the year, balls deep into AI psychosis, our dear leaders set an ambitious release schedule that included a dozen new products to be released in the first half of the year (B2B SaaS)june has come and gone and half of those have been cancelled, all the remaining ones have been delayed, we MAY release a couple of those products before the end of the year. maybemeanwhile, we're bleeding money on claude subscriptions
>>109282410only snailcat companies
I don't see the issue, accounting was once a cognitively intensive profession that is now glorified pencil pushing due to the advent of office software. What is wrong with programmers becoming pencil pushers too?
>>109283159we used to skin people like you alive
>>109283168Come on Anon, push the pencil. You might like it.
>>109283168Excellent refutation.
>>109282304>people who actually do work at the businesswho is that?
>>109283320Executive, retard. Without them there would not be a business—or a product: executives drive all decisions made at the business and produce all value; workers are a cost to be minimized—with AI.
>>109284259 >retardwow, that was uncalled foranyways, making decisions and working is not one and the same. I can decide that my room needs cleaning, that doesn't make my room cleaned though
>>109279355>This cannot work in the long run, can it?It's already been essentially working this way for decades now. Work has always been fake for like 60% of professions. It's just an excuse to fill up the day and make money.
>>109279382>Just don't thinkyep, thats what AI is doing for you.Teaching you how to "not" think for yourself.
>>109279355shit in shit out worked for finance and management why shouldnt it work for IT?
>>109279416>>109279513You are the fall guy, the stooge that will be sacrificed when (not if) things go tits up
>>109286186because tech is realif it doesn't work, it doesn't work
>>109286562actually, tech gives us a gradient of "working solutions"it always haslots of people are happy to ship something that is only 99% correct, or even less, as long as it covers the happy pathslots of people are blissfully oblivious to the difference between a hacked together solution that's going to blow up in their faces in 6 months and a reasoned, well thought out solution that will be performant, correct, and maintainable for yearsthe industry has decided a very long time ago that it's perfectly ok with shit. good software is expensive, in both time and moneyAI is the logical conclusion of thatand the funniest / most tragic thing about all of this is that we are apparently very flexible about that 99% correctness and 6 months maintainability window. it's clearly going down. the standards are going down. people accept the shit that's coming out because of how amazing this technology is. because of how fast it is. how effortless it is. guess what, if you put zero effort into it, it's going to give you shitthis industry is ruled by fucking monkeys
>>109286592Your code may not be optimized, your database queries may be very slow, full scans are everywhere, endpoints are slow, and so on - but business processes still need to run correctly. If business processes don't work properly (and don't work resiliently), then the product turns into shit. A simply inoperative piece of shit. Nobody will pay for this. Your customers will go your competitors and you will left bankrupt.
>>109286562the successful manta has been ship first test later it doesnt have to work it just have to be good enough so you can stuff your pocket and escape.
>>109279416DO NOT worry about it