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>get ticket
>me: "claude, do ticket"
>colleague: "claude, do review"
>me: "claude, implement review changes"
This cannot work in the long run, can it?
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don't worry about it
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>>109279355
>get ticket
>me: "type characters on ide, click run"
>colleague: "types characters on ide, clicks run"
me: "type characters on ide, click run"
This cannot work in the long run, can it?
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>>109279355
"Computer do thing."
> ERRORR ERRROERR WRRROR FAILURE *smoke fumes rising*

The past seems more unsustainable.
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>>109279355
Just don't think about it
Care about the present and tonight's dinner only
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>>109279355
>automated db backups in cloud, outside your control
>IaC
The only things you need in any business for business code to not destroy it in one deployment. just look at gitlab data loss and how nobody really cares about it now l. If you can rollback then who cares just ship it
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>>109279362
>>109279382
>>109279385
but what are we being paid for?
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>>109279374
That unironically was more sustainable. Steeper learning curve and erroring out fast enabled catching problems early on, encouraged thinking about the architecture, and served as a gate preventing bad ideas from getting buteforced into production and burning real budget + serving as an expanded attack surface.

>>109279385
You cant rollback a cloud invoice, a data leak, or time itself among other things.
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>>109279416
It creates a lot of innovation.
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>>109279416
you were supposed to actually review those changes and apply your expertise to prevent ai from doing something stupid.
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>>109279491
>to prevent ai from doing something stupid.
i can't be realistically expected to review a PR that touches a hundred files
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>>109279513
it doesn't matter business will hold you accountable for "your" changes.
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>>109279513
why dont you make smaller PRs
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>>109279541
does it matter if it's 100 small PR's or 1 big PR, he still ain't reviewing em all lol
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>>109279513
this is turning every job you just gotta do your best and hope that the workload the overlords give you isn’t more than you can handle
and if it’s then I guess you’re going to get fired so that’s something to look forward to
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>>109279416
The confidence that we have in our taste and our ability to express what we feel
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>>109279513
>single ticket touches hundreds of files, no review even though you just saved hours of work
doesn't matter you're about to be fired or promoted soon
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>>109279355
>This cannot work in the long run, can it?
correct, we stopped reviewing each other's code. this full rewrite is going to turn out great I just know it
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>>109279541
If I don't commit 50k lines per day my boss gets angry. Everyone knows that reviews are over.
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>>109279368
didn't even work for the duration of your post. you fucked up the greentext syntax.
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Obviously not. And that's why all these "you will be left behind" people are retards. If all you are is a prompt generator, then you are also unnecessary.
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>>109279513
>"Claude make minimal changes, apply DRY, KISS and YAGNI principles."
wew was it hard.
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>>109280147
>product prompt injects your workflow with a batshit insane jira ticket violating all of those principles with highest priority
>you wake up to a 100k LOC commit that your global teammates have already shipped off to production and buried 20 layers deep under their own agent slop
Gg m8 enjoy the clean up.
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>>109280147
>claude do YAGNI
> it proceeds to delete itself
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>>109280290
>>109280340
>things that never happen
I work with it, keep your fanfictions on AO3 luddites
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>>109280361
cope harder slopper. nothing u ever made has value
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>>109279355
That's the idea, yes. Once the Jews accumulate enough data to prove they don't need the goyim anymore, then the layoffs start. If it fails then they can hire a billion pajeets for 14 dollars to fix it.
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>>109280370
>transsexual getting mad
Do a flip
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>>109280147
>"Claude just write good code"
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yeah I guess instead of team of programmers you will have one prompter (the project lead or his fuck toy), claude implements the code and tests, reviews it and runs the tests.
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>>109279355
It does—but not in the way you're thinking: AI allows everyone to start their own business—AI replaces labor entirely. If you do not possess the entrepreneurial spirit of American exceptionalism you will not be welcome in the future. Face it—AI is the future and you will get with the program and become a Founder or you will die penniless on the streets.
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>>109279416
You are being paid to be a backup in case the AI fails—once the people who actually do work at the business gain enough confidence in AI you will be terminated.
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Bit scared bros, should I just sell my company stocks because every software company will go bankrupt?
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>>109279355
this is exactly our workflow now. but pretty much all we do is fix minor shit and add minor features. actual development has stalled
in the beginning of the year, balls deep into AI psychosis, our dear leaders set an ambitious release schedule that included a dozen new products to be released in the first half of the year (B2B SaaS)
june has come and gone and half of those have been cancelled, all the remaining ones have been delayed, we MAY release a couple of those products before the end of the year. maybe
meanwhile, we're bleeding money on claude subscriptions
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>>109282410
only snailcat companies
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I don't see the issue, accounting was once a cognitively intensive profession that is now glorified pencil pushing due to the advent of office software. What is wrong with programmers becoming pencil pushers too?
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>>109283159
we used to skin people like you alive
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>>109283168
Come on Anon, push the pencil. You might like it.
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>>109283168
Excellent refutation.
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>>109282304
>people who actually do work at the business
who is that?
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>>109283320
Executive, retard. Without them there would not be a business—or a product: executives drive all decisions made at the business and produce all value; workers are a cost to be minimized—with AI.
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>>109284259
>retard
wow, that was uncalled for
anyways, making decisions and working is not one and the same. I can decide that my room needs cleaning, that doesn't make my room cleaned though
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>>109279355
>This cannot work in the long run, can it?
It's already been essentially working this way for decades now. Work has always been fake for like 60% of professions. It's just an excuse to fill up the day and make money.
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>>109279382
>Just don't think
yep, thats what AI is doing for you.
Teaching you how to "not" think for yourself.
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>>109279355
shit in shit out worked for finance and management why shouldnt it work for IT?
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>>109279416
>>109279513
You are the fall guy, the stooge that will be sacrificed when (not if) things go tits up
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>>109286186
because tech is real
if it doesn't work, it doesn't work
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>>109286562
actually, tech gives us a gradient of "working solutions"
it always has
lots of people are happy to ship something that is only 99% correct, or even less, as long as it covers the happy paths
lots of people are blissfully oblivious to the difference between a hacked together solution that's going to blow up in their faces in 6 months and a reasoned, well thought out solution that will be performant, correct, and maintainable for years
the industry has decided a very long time ago that it's perfectly ok with shit. good software is expensive, in both time and money
AI is the logical conclusion of that
and the funniest / most tragic thing about all of this is that we are apparently very flexible about that 99% correctness and 6 months maintainability window. it's clearly going down. the standards are going down. people accept the shit that's coming out because of how amazing this technology is. because of how fast it is. how effortless it is. guess what, if you put zero effort into it, it's going to give you shit
this industry is ruled by fucking monkeys
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>>109286592
Your code may not be optimized, your database queries may be very slow, full scans are everywhere, endpoints are slow, and so on - but business processes still need to run correctly.
If business processes don't work properly (and don't work resiliently), then the product turns into shit.
A simply inoperative piece of shit.
Nobody will pay for this.
Your customers will go your competitors and you will left bankrupt.
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>>109286562
the successful manta has been ship first test later it doesnt have to work it just have to be good enough so you can stuff your pocket and escape.
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>>109279416
DO NOT worry about it



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