It has begun editionResources>we don't use AI in our design or productionhttps://mass-driver.com/article/from-human-hands>Speculative Growth and the AI "Bubble" [pdf]https://economics.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2026-07/speculative_growth_AI_public.pdf>Generative AI Is an Engineering Disasterhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/07/generative-ai-engineering-disaster/687901/>WSJ: The AI Backlash Has Tech Executives Fearing for Their Liveshttps://www.wsj.com/us-news/the-ai-backlash-has-tech-executives-fearing-for-their-lives-30c43972>Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressurehttps://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-are-angry-about-data-centers-politicians-are-feeling-pressure-2026-07-16/
>>109289077Why do you hate progress. This is atomization. This is why the industrial revolution created so much wealth. If jewish-american businesses dont invest in AI for their benefit, to ship products to the market FAST, then China will
>>109289091>the Based and Redpilled Movement now supports slop written by j**ts and J*wsIt’s so hard keeping up with The Movement. Do we have to install local models in order to be “based and redpilled”, or do we just ask grok for everything?
>>109289091> Apple image nameNigger please.
>>109289077Thank you for giving me a thread that makes it easier for me to collect IPs for law enforcement
>>109289077
> Thank you for giving me a thread that makes it easier for me to collect IPs for law enforcement
>>109289527>crosshair>minimap>6 second video instead of actual gamelol
D E C C E L E R A T E
>>109289077literal pariah
>>109289332
>>109289527>1810s steam factory>no overhead line shafts or belts to drive equipment
>>109289077AI was done before it started. It's a bubble just like the railroads and just like the internet. That does not mean it is going away, just that most investors will lose everything and AI will just become a decent chat bot once it becomes production ready.
>>109289077>anti-ai alliance
>>109289315>racism is good. Be racist.
>109289091 (You)>109289315 (You)Fucking asshole
>>109289956
>>109289077unsurprising imo. but i will always remember the internet only ever really took off after the dot com bubble crashed. i find it too useful a tool to go back. fools tried to run with it and will get a haircut, but after that i bet it will return.
> Fucking asshole
>>109289993With ai it takes seconds to generate more.
AI is being marketed like a miracle: it’s “smart,” it’s “creative,” it’s “inevitable.” But fluency is not truth, and speed is not safety. A system can generate convincing text, code, or explanations while still being wrong in ways that are hard to detect and easy to act on.The interface often hides uncertainty, and when AI fails the outcome isn’t real accountability, it’s confusion. Mistakes also scale: one bad draft becomes many emails, many tickets, many patches, and verification turns into “prompt again” instead of real review.AI can also shift risk through data handling, security threats, and dependency. If you cannot explain why an output should be trusted, don’t let it steer consequential decisions; treat AI as a tool that needs human ownership, guardrails, and tests, not as an oracle.
4chan userpass killed this site
Sorry xister, I'm addicted to SillyTavern.
>>109290113gross post
Don't you have nothing better to do with your time >109290171 (You)
>>109290182sounds like you're not enjoying yourself as much as he is
luddite rage
>>109290113>AI will NEVER be useful!>Well, it's NOT cost-effective then!>Well, it's just NOT ethical!>Well, as long as you use it just as a tool that NEEDS the human!----> (You) are here <-----
>>109290224There are no Luddites. Not even Amish are Luddites. People are just tired of crap bloated over-hyped tech enshittification of their lives.
>>109290113>waaaah marketingMcDonald's is marketed like it's good food at a fair price, gonna cry about it?
>>109290246AI has made my job infinitely easier, I make more money and have more free time. Can't fight the future, don't waste your life trying.
>>109290259People will believe what they believe based on what happens in front of them. Neither you nor I have any effect on that. More important, green bananas have more fiber and less sugar than ripe yellow bananas.
>AI BAD AI BAD AI BADPathetic
anti-ai sisters we can't use linux either it's time for apple only?
>>109290314Kekkekeke luddites can’t stop losing hahahaha
>>109290314>the electronic manifestation of pure jeetery is good because a few redditards dislike it
>>109289077PGP is broken. Large quantum computers exist. Discrete log based cryptography is obsolete.
>>109290314Microsoft and Apple have huge contracts with AI companies and are both using AI extensively, as are virtually all large software companies.
>>109289077>here are my communist sources
DATACENTER DOODWAT NOU?
>>109290113AI detection score: 100/100
>>109290363>doing terrorism to own the hecking aiCHUDSLuddite…. They never learn
>>109289091Jebo ti Allah mater.
>>109290338Under Five Eyes surveillance for 4+ months. USPS Mail Picture Data Center. Will be dead soon. Goodbye anons.Sorry for shitty pic....needed to work with network & sound cards off.
>>109289077Get a job, get a life, touch grass, have sex.
>>109289077you are not welcome here if i was a mod i would gag you for an hour
>>109290314he's on cyber-coder side but not an AI-guddite. AI-guddites are different species
>>109290338Use a one time pad
>>>/vg/574247470
>>109290314If you want to laugh at some anti-AI copium go read the thread, it's amazing. They just went>No, he didn't actually say any of that, it's fake.
>Reminder to vibrator shillsYour job WILL be taken by a Filipino Claudemonkey in the next 6 months.Your prompts and agent usage data WILL be used to make you redundant.
>>109290558he also said that if AI is x100 improvement, then compiler is x1000 improvement, but AI-guddites seem to ignore that. compiler boosts development x10 compared to AI. AI-guddites only use runtimes for their projects and cannot touch any of the grass without AI
>>109290661
Honestly, luddites don't have the stomach to do the things that would need to be done to slow down AI research. That's why it's never going to happen.
>>109290558lmao, I want to see his face when he learns what the modern kernel patch code review pipeline looks like.
>>109290730
>>109290730And that's why I grew out of leftism. Its all talk, no action.>but my WEF funded protests!!That's cute.
>>109290754>And that's why I grew out of leftism. Its all talk, no action.so you admit being a leftist and AI-guddite. theorem auto-proved.
>>109289527Why does the crosshair stick to the wall?
>>109290864everyone has a leftist phase but not everyone grows up
>>109290384Terrorism is based. Allahu akbar
>>109289077If AI is what they say it is, wouldn't AI be able to predict when these acts of violence will occur? Why are they afraid if AI works?
>>109290390bump. Might post more about my situation of any anons interested. Might die soon but not schizo. PGP is broken. All discrete log based cryptography is now obsolete.
>>109291423PRISM has locked my thread posting ability via some exploit. Can't figure out how to get around it. Thread replies only.
>>109291423self hosted jabber with OMEMO is fine. E2EE + many to many group support.
>>109290924with left brainwashing/education, maybe everyone, or, you think there are left-wingers in amazonian rainforest? this call to action talk is intended for left wing proletariatus.
>>109290924>everyone has a leftist phaseLolno
>>109290885it's just a bug. buy my luddite game. no discounts.
>>109289077just use local AI, never rent any tokens from jews
>>109292001you need their stack to get anything out of the models tho...
>>109289077What the fuck is that? There is no need to fight what is dead on arrival. Calm the fuck down, autocomplete is not gonna hurt you. Hold people accountable for slop. Problem solved.
>>109290535>media more likely to lie study shows
>>109292015wait until chinese bot farms distill it
>>109290995>Terrorism is based. Allahu akbar
>>109292022>Hold people accountable for sloplel. how powerful do you think the downvote button is? Can you hold my boomer accountable for watching hours of narrated video slop?
>>109290314I am Jack's complete lack of surprise at seeing AI shills literally post reddit screencaps.
>>109292561fuck off there and join your snailcat friends
>>109289563Here's a better version.
>>109289077All you co-opted AI fags posting this sanitized and un-thicc drivelliterally this image is how idiotic you areliterally NPCsWelcum to the internet™Nothing personnel kidz
>>109292577Backlooms meta. snailcats might be onto something.
Acceleration will bring us back to the normal glory days once everything shuts down. So I say let them fuck up everything.
>>109289077sponsered by the same anti-ice companies. nothing better to do with their monies.
I here I thought flamewars were a bannable offence.
>>109289527Could you please post a trigger warning the next time you decide to include such a suggestively violent video? Thank you in advance.
>>109289077If you hate AI, you're anti-semitic and anti-American.
I want to endorse and embrace this technology, I just haven't really seen it do anything beyond shitpost and generate mediocre code. Make no mistake, I have gotten a far better job off of this boom, I just don't really understand the hype. It feels like I'm grifting people when I help sell this to them. Even I don't understand why customers want AI or the equipment to run it.
>>109291456E2EE is broken unless it's post-quantum. Read into Save Now Decrypt Later. 20mil qbit quantum cores now exist. Hashing algorithms are also sus due to Grover's algorithm. PRISM: everything is r00ted.
The best thing you can do right now is to flood the internet with gen AI bait. Amplify the slop, make people hate all social media
>>109289077Reminder that everyday is punch-a-“creative” day
I appreciate using AI as a tool for informal discussions and research, but for creative work, it's hit or miss, and assigning it all the work is a form of laziness. If you haven't yet acquired skills or knowledge in a field, using AI as a shortcut will only hinder your own development. While it certainly reduces the number of people needed to complete a task, it's not yet autonomous enough for professional use. It still needs a supervisor or guide to provide context or ensure the results are accurate. Simply put, you won't need to hire as many people if AI can streamline certain aspects or tedious tasks. In any case, many of these routine tasks were already outsourced. The biggest problem, in my opinion, lies in the consequences for young professionals entering the workforce or school, whose learning and concentration abilities are likely to deteriorate further due to smartphones, social media, tablets, and so on. The most pressing problems I'd say are the implications for younger workers entering the workforce/in school whose ability to learn and attention span will further atrophy worse than it already is from smartphones/social media/ipads/etc., and the use of AI for peddling slop and generic ugly artwork (although a lot of Patreon artists taking commissions draw absolute garbage or porn), muzak, decadent pornography and such, but the tech is definitely useful and helpful. It's here to stay, so we must adapt to it regardless of our opinions.
>>109289315Nigger you're acting like wealth is measured in dollar bills. It's not.The only real thing backing a dollar bill is military force, at this point. Real wealth is skill, community, land, etc.The intention behind releasing AI to the public is to broaden the true wealth gap between classes, among other things.Also, AI isn't going to discover anything of sustenance. It's not like the cure for cancer is hidden behind a giant complicated math equation that only a data center can decipher.It exists outside the confines of the modern science paradigm, much like the black projects.This is the worlds biggest scam.
>>109289077so much clanker and jeet seethe itt, good job op
>>109289077Luddites.
>>109289077>109289077AI is the future.You simply have to embrace it, because if you don't, people like me will leave you far behind. We are geniuses. With the Fable subscription, my performance rivals that of a Harvard genius. And the way I conduct myself and my impeccable performance in front of my peers every day is truly impressive.
AI was invented because liberals wanted to be smart.
>>109293056the hype is driven by execs who think they'll be able to drastically cut payroll with it and buy another megayacht on the stock gainz
>>109289077Based, let's do this.
>>109289077is there "No AI used" seal of approval that is actually managed by some trusted authority?seems like no-brainer thing to do to
>>109293102 reality isn't a fictional Star Trek utopia
Cattle has been conditioned to listen and believe professional propagandists and they love it.AI is a tool that allows even more efficient propaganda with cute cat videos as a bonus.Calling you people a minority is insulting number wise to actual minorities.
>>109294175Do what? Nothing?
>>109289077Can we share AAA tools here
I'll be improving the first one & adding a feature to the second one in abit https://github.com/zlw9991/textcrypt-67https://github.com/zlw9991/imgcrypt-67
>>109289077If this movement is to succeed it needs a solid philosophical foundation. Without such a foundation, it will be taken over by leftists and lose credibility.Accelerationists are using every opportunity to use divide-and-conquer tactics, by cordoning off anti-AI sentiment as "leftist"; some go so far as to label anyone who critisizes their totalitarian, dehumanizing utopian vision as "trans".
>>109295567It doesn't help that there are two major groups, one you pointed out and the other foreign intelligence, who are working overtime to use /aaa/, in very different ways of course.
>>109295577Good point.In China's case it's in their interest to slow down Western AI development whilst allowing their own to continue unimpeded. That is why /aaa/ needs a strategy to deal with the realities on the world stage. All these complaints about jobs or datacenters are completely pointless when other countries are planning to use AI to enslave humanity.A global strategy can be something like this:- Gain control of the US government through democratic means, by spreading our message in a bipartisan manner. Having other countries aligned would be a bonus, but the USA still has the strongest military in the world, so control of it is necessary.- Choke off the resources needed by AI: impose a minimum transistor gate size of 200 nanometers and initiate a buyback programme of AI hardware. - Use a combination of economic and military pressure to coerce China and others to end their AI research and destroy their existing AI infrastructure. Make a public display of blowing up Western datacenters and AI hardware, so our geopolitical opponents don't think we're trying to win the AI race.
>>109295567You will review the LLM code and you will be happy.
>>109292477I was talking about code slop. As for social media, it was always like this, nothing changed. They used to hire shills and copywriters, now it's all generated. If anything, it was a blessing, because you can now see social media for what it is. In the past you wouldn't listed to paranoid people who told you social media is spyware + public opinion manufacturing machine that works for the Epstein class.Now you can see it with a naked eye.
It's also important to point out that people who make loud noises about billionaires, datacenters, or hardware prices are likely to be leftists, foreign agents, or otherwise unaligned with us (pic related).Our goal is crystal clear: to prevent the rise of artificial intelligence whilst violating as few individual rights as possible in the process.
>>109295491typewriters
I endorse this thread.
>>109295655>Gain control of the US governmentwhat for, retard? US government already gave a boot to ack-tropic and denounced its CEOAI-Guddites are obviously ack-tropic shills and "the global strategy" is to having a laugh at them. cyber-coders will dominate both of your types
>>109295931>gave a bootDon't believe that. They are using it in the DoD and NSA.
>>109295937>They are using itnope
Anti-AI lunatics are a non-issue. They'll inevitably start devouring their own once they can't meet the demands of the endless purity spiral that'll only get more and more out of control the better and more used AI models get.
>>109296512AA and DSA have already been infiltrated by foreign and domestic commies (sadly)
>>109295304Keep a general up and share news.
>>109290259But your job is to shillpost on 4chan, obviously AI made it easier.Shoutout to the nolan shills on /tv/
>>109297055AI-Guddite's fall from "aaaa, coding trannies!" to "look look, Linus Torvalds said!"
>>109296512Nah we will make a subculture that will be worthwhile while you exploit the world, people in your system and all natural resources.
>>109296512
>>109297818Monet wouldn't draw something lifeless and with such little contrast.
>>109295567Anti-AI people like you are clearly driven by doomsday fantasies and a desire to undermine America and free enterprise by aiding China. You justify China's models—which are built on theft—while constantly disparaging American innovation. It is obvious. That's not rationalism, that's sedition. Sir, you are a person who is betraying the country.
>>109297823you realize it is a monet you retard
The best counter-culture in the face of AI is one that advocates a return to nature. Think of like the Wandervogel in Germany.
To the ai shills that are obviously hired by Anthropic and OpenAI to garner hype for the impending IPO exit scam: how do your masters have a viable business plan? Every new release of a LLM is almost instantly distilled down and released for free. The stuff you can run on consumer level hardware is, for most tasks, indistinguishable from frontier models and it costs $0. Things like LMstudio means even the average boomer, with no technical acumen can get local models running in the time it takes to download the parameters from the internet. What's the plan? Keep spending trillions purchasing all the consumer hardware ad infinitum hoping that there is infinite debt you have access to and with aim to make computers inaccessible accept through ai companies with the naive the hope the Chinese don't flood the market with cheap ram? Pray that the US govt makes it illegal to own consumer hardware and to use open source models? Please enlighten me because it seems there is no way you can make money from AI without some 1984 level regulations and limitations being placed on the citizenry.
>>109297840Your models are trained on massive amounts of stolen, copyrighted data. When are you going to pay all the royalties you owe?
>>109297954>>109297943Protecting the integrity of IP and models is a matter of national security. Our government will ban Chinese models, and we will employ protectionist policies and diplomatic levers. If we do not allow the unfettered development of AI, we will lose our total economic dominance and standing face to face with our rivals and that would be foolish. You socialist reactionaries and anarcho-primitivists like Ted K. can cling to your fantasies of returning to the old order, but the genie is out of the bottle AI is here to stay, and we must ensure that America is at the forefront, controlling its own destiny.
>>109297954Your data are OUR data, bitch.Wait that sounds like communis-
>>109297983So AI shills are for 1984 style regulations and limitations being placed on the average citizenry? Interesting. Also please prove that a chatbot, a few private companies making trillions at the expense of everyone else and the functional destruction of the US constitution to achieve these aims is a matter of national security.
Do notice how the AI bots just start throwing garbage posts at the problem until the discussion is categorically retarded.
>>109298008Free market capitalism is for the goyim. The winners have had socialism for the best part of 50 years now.
Where are all those new GIBS that ai gave us for all this years?Only memes?
Paying to code is the most retarded and pathetic thing I've seen
>>109298023We put restrictions on Chinese made smartphones and OS for national security, we can do it for these too. It is for national security to protect our domestic industries in emerging technologies and our trade secrets from hostile governments.
>>109298236That's just using one draconian law to justify another. Also you didn't answer my question.
The new Data Center Code of Conduct has dropped. If CoC is good for open source, it should also be good for data centers.
>>109295491>>>/k/
>>109297840>Anti-AI people like you are clearly driven by doomsday fantasies and a desire to undermine America>>109298236>We put restrictions on Chinese made smartphones and OS>>109297983>national security for national security,ye, everybody knows you ate your own accelerationist cereal, but what exactly? can you show something beside talking? the most recent and exciting thing on this site was 2 chinese robots fighting in a cage. what can you? i only see a desperate drunken-master-style AI-guddites babbling about "luddites", appocalypses, preventing Ukraine collapse because of AI thing etc etc. AI is already topped, these 1% improvement talks are futile
the only data centre code of conduct you need is build it near the poors lmao
>>109298367not a single word about AI or role of AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyOpJvROK10only AI-guddites talk about AI importance in that area. how would AI resiste left wing propaganda? why AI-guddites only mention trannies or left-wing when it goes against their ack-ing interest/opponents? anti-AI? - sponsored by CCP! hehehe
>>109301814also note that when you talk about "automation" in "national security", theres simply a very recent examples of Oct.7, where israelis had all this "advanced automation" deployed with complete absense of a dumb and conservative landmines. accelerationist policy failed terribly.
>hmm, today i will use a model trained by a company which holds petabytes of copyrighted data in its datacenters but because they white label it via this process called "large language model training" and don't serve you the stolen information literally byte-for-byte there is nothing ethically wrong with this whole ordeal. also if you don't like it you're a tranny
>>109302709you should make this same comment on reddit so it can be used to train models
>>109302803i would guess that they are desperate enough for fresh data that even this hellhole they would scrape atp
>>109290441Scamming and bootlicking doe snot count, get a new material, eat the bugs and get aids.
Why would you make a general where you just seethe all day
I don't hate AI itself. I just hate Big Tech. Local is the way to go.
>>109289077It has begunResources>we don't use cameras in our craft or workshophttps://ashford-guild.com/article/from-human-hands>Speculative Growth and the Camera "Bubble" [pamphlet]https://royalacademy.co.uk/pamphlets/1839-07/speculative_growth_camera_public.pdf>The Daguerreotype Is an Engineering Disasterhttps://www.londonreview.co.uk/arts/1839/07/daguerreotype-engineering-disaster/12904>The Times: The Camera Backlash Has Portrait Painters Fearing for Their Livelihoodshttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/uk-news/the-camera-backlash-has-portrait-painters-fearing-for-their-livelihoods-8821>Parisians are angry about photographic studios. Officials are feeling the pressurehttps://www.gazette.fr/world/france/parisians-are-angry-about-photographic-studios-officials-feeling-pressure-1839-07-16/
>>109303501Society can do with less cameras.
>>109290113>*fluency* is not truth>The *interface* often hides uncertainty>the outcome isn’t real *accountability*>not as an *oracle*No matter how many generations of AI pass, no matter how you prompt it, AI always drops in little words like this that make no fucking sense in context.I wish I could qualify it better, it's an interesting phenomenon. It definitely happens in spots where it's difficult to find the right words, often related to marketing speech, and occasionally it finds innovative but strange ways to use words that aren't as wrong.It's exactly what you'd expect with an algorithm that's just choosing the next word and it's exactly what happens.Impressive that there's so much emergent behavior, but still a ways to go.
>>109290171nah you are>>109290259>>109290247>lying on the internetsay something bosnian teen? I heard moomy and duhdy say nap time for brats. off you go..
>>109293372That doesn't make you a genius, it gives you access to genius intelligence as a tool. Maybe ask AI to explain the difference to you.
>>109303695Its statistically average intelligence, thats why mouthbreathers love it so much0.1x devs getting elevated to 1x devs
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-stock-drops-new-low-ipo-price-starship-launch-scrubbed-2026-7>merge your space company with AI>it crashes
>>109292577>>109289527This sucks so much. How much are you paying for this?
>>109292745Well yeah.
>>109290259Pušenje kurca nije posao.
>>109290314
>>109295500Ok I'm done, so for the first repo you can add POW to your posts like this<ct>iREP7Bo8TdCWX2YPnQmPM488i+FTrerR/QgQtA9BE4chEM/xy75B9XM6CkM+TE11YXUO+Q==<tg>OpxXQ8jVzbPJVmJt4E8bSw==<pw>linus<nc>linus<ed>
>>109289077AI-sloppers flooding YouTube is actively killing my enjoyment of the platform.It's not just AI-generated visuals or voices, even the real-looking videos use AI scripts with the same fucking prose now.
ai niggers took our hard drives. total clanker death
>>109304542>youtube>enjoyment of the platformkys
>>109303683>no fucking sensemakes perfect sense. for example - fluency is not truth - meanus you still have to go through the output/flow to make sure it goes into the "right" direction. the fluency is only a bypass, a constant for AI-guddite.
>>109305803They are not always wrong but they condense too much meaning into a single word or take it in a different direction than what was being talked about. The whole thing is a mishmash of talking about all of the problems with AI all at once instead of tackling points one-by-one in a clear way.
>>109305606>virtue-signalling your hatred for youtube on /g/you are a brave & powerful black woman of color
>>109289077>not calling this /BJG/ Butlerian Jihad Generalwasted opportunityanyway I'm in lets fucking do this
>Movement against a marketing term for machine learningI don't like GayI companies, but I REALLY don't like leftoids rallying against it.There is literally NOTHING more important than crushing """""artists""""" and especially software """"""""""engineers"""""""""". All miserable spergs who ru(i)n the internet and normal existence.
>>109304477updated the second repo, but i think the pixel obfuscation needs a more complex approach
>>109306564it my nigga, it. i have orchestrated it, but it is a very rough gpt5 output, it cannot even remove custom quotation or -- long dash reliably, so those accelerationism dreams of guddite are futilejust look at openai API manuals - those are classic bloatware design evolution multiplied by the hype factor. >>109302275https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2adH6ZYxOc again, no AI mentioned, national security is about global finance, financial institutions, non-profits, cheritables and MONEY MONEY MONEY. no AI-guddite lived through assasination attempt - they arent important for national security, they arent targets. it is all just pumped self-importance.--AI-guddites sponsor left: https://sfstandard.com/2026/07/18/ai-s-new-political-donor-class-already-outspending-big-tech-s-last-one/Alex Bores - democratScott Wiener - democrat, LGBTQUQUwat coding trannies, guddite?
>>109289077I hate AI too but if your hatred for how humans are using AI is centered around it being used to replace artists and driving up the prices of PC parts, then I am sorry to say but you are so retarded and should slap yourself for being so stupid>Is used by cheap jeets and SEAmonkeys to flood our feed with fake bullshit, much worse than those gay DIY lifehack videos they spammed years ago. Will ultimately ruin the internet and turn it into the epitome of visual goyslop>Is also used by jeets and SEAmonkeys to generate slop that’s frying the minds and shortening the attention span of our youngest generation>Is abused by our students and stops them from actually understanding their classwork and will ultimately make them a generation of retards incapable of writing or doing math without AI>Will make numerous fields of work obsolete, not because it’s superior to a human, but because it’s acceptable to the low standards of shareholders and will lower the quality of products>Is consuming vast quantities of public water to cool data centers that let out a horrible drone for miles>Will be used to monitor all forms of communication online for badthink>Is ushering us in an age where we won’t be able to tell what is and isn’t real>Will be used to generate videos of political violence and war crimes to sway elections and military action>Genuine video footage of politicians and the wealthy elite having sex with children will be dismissed as AI and whistleblowers will be charged with producing AI child porn>Those problematic to the state and influential corporations will be framed, trialed and punished based on fake AI generated videos of them having sex with young children>Is actively being used by the elite to push us into a post labor society where the 0.01% own 99.99% and we are complete utter goycattle to form a collective awareness and revolt
>>109290445Oh le no! Ai isn't much better though.
Based thread OP.AI faggots deserve the rope.
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>>109290363likely piss strengh balloons those luddites
>>109298049maybe its actually indians anondeviants are comfy_ui and other now
>>109304675roads are nearly empty anon someone is not hdd trading
>>109289077How much of that is controlled opposition?
>>109289077How is it that educated adults are engaging in a known logical fallacy without a single hint of irony? I hope you live long enough to be ashamed of yourselves, you irredeemable retards
The tech is good but everyone is using it wrong.If you're assuming it will not make mistakes, you're using it wrong.It will make mistakes, it will make fucking retarded mistakes that not even a regular human can do.You need to engineer around it.
>>109289077thank you for this thread xister
>>109289077I just sold my 17th saas company to Google.
>>109289077oh, I found /ass/ ai skeptics supportgroup
>>109293128/thread As usual, going too extreme in one direction or the other about it is just full retard or delusional. I just like using AI as a sort of private tutor and I appreciate the conversational aspect of walking me through a given technical problem, but I have zero interest in AI music or art outside of the odd dank meme here or there
Hello, luddites
>>109290246OK, so go complain about that. You can think the web is full of crap (it is) and still use AI to advance your own goals. I give money to Chinese AI companies and they provide me with fairly reliable software generation tools.
>>109308885Damn, you sure showed him by being dumb, lazy and unable to read!
Is this why yall hate AI?
>>109295500Is noone else on here interested in directly developing tools to foil AI :(Also just noticed I got dubs dubs twice
>>109312436Nah, I don't give two shits about some poos. I hate "AI" because it has been ruined by marketing wank and bullshitters. We have not achieved real AI yet, not even close. Yet here we are with every fucking thing under the sun getting branding "AI" slapped onto it. Same shit as when turbos got popular, gotta slap turbo on everything even if it has nothing to do with a turbo.
>>109312436Go back
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>>109289077AI is inevitable.Luddites are irrelevant losers.
>>109313167Normies still have some skills they can empower with ai at leastYou're irrelevant loser tho with or without ai
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>>109313167>AI is inevitable.This. It's like fighting against electricity or the wheel. The cat is out of the bag now.
>>109313418nah it's shit. when free shit ends it will end up as an obscure tool for some few enterprises
AI - Actually Indian API - A Person in IndiaLLM - Low cost Labour in India AGI - A Genius Indian GPT - Gujarati Professional Typer
>>109313450ThisTwo more weeks and the bubble will burstOr two more yearsOr two more decadesBut it will happen!
>>109290363Is Microsoft retarded or something? These eco terrorists are doing them a favour. Nobody can afford power in Europe. An AI data center in EU costs like 100x as much to run as the same data center in USA.
>>109290363god damn it I'm getting derealizations again, this image looks like fucking render
>>109313533it doesn't matter when, you will always be a loser tho lol
>>109312439xister, I...
>>109313533The door swings both ways.Two more weeks until AGI.Or two more years.Or two more decades.But it will happen!GPT-2 was "too dangerous" to release to the public, by the way.
they see me vibin', they hatin'
>>109314277>GPT-2 was "too dangerous" to release to the public, by the way.You look at how horrible technology (and society in general) has gotten in the years since GPT-2 released and tell me he wasn't secretly right about that.
I am a boomer that recently decided to troon out and I absolutely HATE AI SLOPI'm glad there is finally a thread for me here on /g/
>>109314304>since GPT-2 releasedwhat about too dangerous did you not understand? they never released gpt-2
>>109295304they are mostly trannies, xhem at least will kill themselves.chuds are the ones who do nothing.
>>109315227You should be scared of me then, because I'm neither tranny nor chud.
daily reminder that AI was trained exclusively on stolen data, nobody gave permission to give out their "manually" written github projects/stack overflow answers/blog posts/books/youtube videos/reddit comments for LLM training.if you rely on AI even just for simple chat answers you are using that stolen data without knowing who even was the original author in the first place.
>>109315378This is like saying you speak with stolen words.
>>109315520you know i'm right
>>109315564you know I'm right
I know I'm right
>>109290535>what even is narrative control attempts.Yea you gotta do better than that ranjeet if you want your 20 rupees deposit from shlomo.
I keep reporting the faggot cat spammer and yet he's stil here spamming the hell out of this board but I call jeets subhuman and I get banned fuck this garbage site
>>109315674hey don't talk about reddit like that
>>109293372I hope you're shitposting and don't actually believe in this bs.
>>109315378You cannot steal data you silly bootlicker. Reading, learning, copying, all not stealing. Stealing means you TAKE the original from the person who owned it and deprive them of access to it.
china stole 200 million IDs of US citizen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN7PLKOvZjQ but AI-guddite will tell China stole their "models", though knowing how much they prostitute its obvious assumption they simply sold their stuff to china.
>>109315734Words can have multiple meanings.
>>109315751They can but there’s no universe where “looking at a digital copy of data” is stealing it. You don’t get to make up definitions that fit your argument. Copying data, file sharing, these are not stealing and they are not theft. AI learns the same way humans do, and AI datasets are transformative works covered by fair use. If you want to strengthen copyright law go work for Disney and accept your role as a corpo slave.
Reminder that cogsuckers are skilless losers with no aspirations, and they keep trying to convince anyone with a skill that they will be replaced so they can feel better about themselves. Little do they know, once a skilless loser always a skilless loser.
>>109315763>AI learns the same way humans dolol lmaoyou're such retardget out of /g/
>>109315734>>109315763you are depraving the human author of being able to be credited for their work, how is that not theft?you can make the "abusing intellectual property copyright is not theft" argument, but if you're pirating a book or a video game at least it is known who the original author of the information or piece of media was.LLM training mixes your stuff with everyone else's making it impossible to discern who created the original thing, it almost completely destroys any incentive to create anything online if nobody but LLM scrapers are to read it and then sell that information back to their customers, all without your consent and for zero compensation.>you silly bootlickerno idea what you mean by this>AI datasets are transformative works covered by fair use"fair use" requires giving credit to the original author(s) you stupid brainrotted retard, and LLM's are fundamentally incapable of doing that.
>>109315820>no argumentNeural networks learn in a way that’s very similar to humans, where data strengthens connections between concepts into a sort of digital brain within the model. A model is very similar to a brain and the only difference in terms of copyright law is the model can output digital data. As soon as a brain scanning device exists, corporations and the government will begin trying to apply copyright law to the brain in the same way they’re trying to apply it to AI. People trying to apply copyright to AI or diminish the brain-like qualities of AI are only helping accelerate us to the day when your memories of copyright works become illegal and you either become a debt slave or are forced to pay license fees for the privilege of remembering.
>>109315854> "fair use" requires giving credit to the originalAbsolutely not true! Do your research before typing up a blog post next time anon.
>>109314277>GPT-2 was "too dangerous" to release to the public, by the way.Because they assumed it would lead to massive amounts of spam and scams.Turns out they were completely correct.
>>109315875no point in having a discussion with a mouthbreather like you
>>109315875Ask ChatGPT why every single statement you've made is incorrect, there's gotta be enough data in its training set for that because your reductive and ignorant opinion was debunked countless number of times before.
>>109315901lol for you there’s no point in having a discussion with anyone, you’re clearly not going to take it in>>109315912>your debonked but no I won’t post any arguments backing it up just take my word for itYou guys are kicking ass keep it up
>>109315882in EU law it does, i guess it's different from US law, i did not know that. but even if it's not "required" you can still mostly find the original author with a simple text web search or reverse image search, and that's because it's not mixed with 5000 other sources like an LLM would do.>typing up a blog postjust ask your LLM to summarize it for you if reading 3 sentences gives you trouble, lol...
>>109315964European countries don't have fair use at all. It's solely American.
>>109290445>>109308607Yeah SA was always shit. It did have a large collection of simple, misinformed questions though so on google results it was sometimes useful but asking your own question? Nope. When it's something novel (to them) they couldnt even read and understand the question. I spent a lot of time writing it in a simple way they might understand and then clarifying more each time someone gave a incorrect answer. In the end, no solution.That's why growth stopped at 2013.
>>109315964The EU does not have fair use anon, that’s a US thing. The EU maintains a list of exceptions to copyright and those exceptions do not include “gave credit”. Idk why you’re even posting you don’t know what’s going on. Maybe you should ask an LLM to help you with your facts.
>>109316004retard trying to dismiss my original truth nuke on a technicality, kek
>>109316047you too >>109316056
>>109316064Anon if your “truth nuke” is “technically incorrect” it’s not a truth nuke. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Why are you even arguing about copyright when you have no clue how it works? Who is paying you or what is your motive otherwise?
>>109292577gooseworx-tier animation
>>109316078the truth nuke is that AI training is theft that strips all works of its authorship and you tacitly support that theft by using it for your own gain.but to address your retarded point about "fair use not being a thing in the EU": my country and i suppose every other EU country do have their own versions of "fair use". it's not LITERALLY called "fair use" nor does it have the exact same legal mechanisms (obviously...), but you are allowed to "cite" other works within your work without permission as long as you give credit. and again, LLM's do not give credit, and they cannot ever give credit.>Who is paying you or what is your motivei just like having people get compensated for their work or at least given credit to it when it's being used, that's all.
>>109316197>>109316078It's piracy for you, the average goy, to have copyrighted material like a movie on your disk. It doesn't require anything more.OpenAI, anthropic etc all committed this crime, against almost everyone.Fair use and all EU equivalents are just defenses, where they have to show that they did transformative work ON my copyrighted material, like critique or parody. They obviously didn't.
>>109289315AI can lead society in one of two directions, but it will take some time before we reach either:Post-scarcity utopia. AI and robots do practically all the work, and resources are distributed in a fair and equitable manner to all who need them.Cyberpunk dystopia. AI and robots do practically all the work, and those who own them hoard all the resources. Meanwhile everyone else has no job and no means to get resources.Unless goverent makes some very big changes that the boomers that run it aren't willing to make, we're headed straight for dystopia. And that's why we don't like AI, since it's the tool that's making that happen.
>>109316802Well, we are heading towards B, in part because A is a pipe dream.>and robotsThat's not the case. Robots aren't close to AI. We don't have near the production and support that would be needed either.Even if the AI promises were true (they are not) we would be left with all jobs that have manual components while all of the office workforce is cut and only a few prooompters remain. We will all be plumbing, nursing and cutting wood while the AI does all the relaxing well-paid work then.
>>109316802>Post-scarcity utopia. AI and robots do practically all the work, and resources are distributed in a fair and equitable manner to all who need them.What incentive does the ruling class have to redistribute their resources to the useless eaters? What realistic leverage will human cattle have over its rulers in a world of AI-driven mass surveillance and AI-driven killer drones?
>>109316929None. In the AI future 99+% of humans will be eliminated so the richest amongst us have enough space for each to be a king.
>>109316956>None.Then why list "post-scarcity utopia" as an option? There's no mechanism for it.
>>109316915>Robots aren't close to AI.Which is why I said it will take some time to get there. Also AI not being good enough to fully replace most jobs yet.>>109316929>What incentive does the ruling class haveTaxes.>What realistic leverage will human cattle haveVotes. Also large numbers and the ability to execute elites if needed.
>>109317009>Taxes.Why do they need you to hand them back their fake money when they own all the actual resources and infrastructure?>VotesWhat do they need the pretense of democracy for?>ability to execute elites How are you going to execute elites?
>>109317032>Why do they need you to hand them back their fake money when they own all the actual resources and infrastructure?They make value with all the resources the machines they own collect. To support society and keep the masses from rising up and chopping off their heads, they share a portion of those resources to a government that distributes them to the masses. >What do they need the pretense of democracy for?Because a huge number of people who have nothing, and nothing to lose, can become very dangerous very quickly. >How are you going to execute elites?Guillotines. Or on a smaller scale, Luigi.
>>109317096>They make value with all the resources the machinesIs niggercattle like (You) even sentient? Imagine being so mentally enslaved you can't even think coherently outside of the niggercattle goyslave system and then talk about how you're gonna heckin' kill all the elites.
I find it funny that AI shills talk confidently about brains and ANNs being similar when neuroscience is one of the least understood aspects of biology and there is about 300 competing theories of consciousness, all pretty much equally as valid as one another, that is given as the ultimate truth by X neuroscientist. To state with confidence that you know a brain and ANN is the same or even remotely similar beyond the most abstract and high level view possible is fucking ridiculous statement given our current level of understanding of how a brain works.
>>109317145b-b-but how will they know how many goytokens resources are worth without us? there is no value without the market, ok?????
>>109317168>I find it funny that AI shills talk confidently about brains and ANNs being similar when neuroscience is one of the least understood aspects of biologyIt's understood well enough to know ANNs have nothing to do with brains.
>>109317145"Value" is an abstraction that stands in for any given resource. Your robots mined 20 tons of bauxite. His robots raised and slaughtered 200 cattle. My power plant generated 12 GWh of electricity. We need some system to assign each of these things value so they can be traded for each other, or traded for some currency that can be traded for another resource.
>>109317236>We need some system to assign each of these things value so they can be traded for each other, or traded for some currency that can be traded for another resource.>WeYou have nothing to trade besides your labor which, by your own premise, is going to be worth nothing.
>>109317009>>109317032>>109317096>Which is why I said it will take some time to get there.Not much point fantasizing about this far-out scenario before you have considered the scenarios that will and must happen first.There is the fact that robots are not close to taking most jobs, the tech is not there. Manual labor will be mostly human for at least 30-50 more years no matter what.But the second fact is that a massive amount of jobs are not meant to be efficient, they are social, bullshit jobs, hired for reasons other than efficiency. In the best case they are meant to take responsibility (doctors), express taste (judges) or favor social goals (middle management). In the worst case they are just DEI, rent-seeking and (increasingly indian) nepotism. A looot of these will be kept.AI is just one smaller part of the wealth concentration that is happening. Even without AI we would be going into a permanent underclass type situation. Just outsourcing already did massive damage to the good easy jobs.It is this situation that you need to examing before you go off into fantasy land.
>>109317317>There is the fact that robots are not close to taking most jobs, the tech is not there. Manual labor will be mostly human for at least 30-50 more years no matter what.Assume 99.99% of production is unnecessary because useless eaters are getting exterminated. Assume ludicrously inefficient automation is an acceptable temporary solution for sustaining the remaining population. Now reevaluate your estimate.
>>109289830>claude, add overhead line shafts or belts to drive equipment.>*done*It's really that simple. stop being a hater.
>>109317356I'm not a chatbot so I don't take commands.Now you're back in fantasy land.I understand you like to imagine tech overlords suddenly sending out killer drones they built in secret to kill 99.999% of humans (since you wanted to only reduce production by only 99.99%, and the overclass will at least want 10x the consumer goods of average people)... But thats nothing more than a fantasy scenario too.There's no reason to do something like that, it's very risky (quite likely that tech jew is just merced by one of his boyguard when he realizes he killed half his family), and there's no point in> ludicrously inefficient automationeither. It's much better to have people doing it, as their conditions become more and more degenerate and population declines "naturally" from degeneracy.The question is why you are so unwilling to consider the realistic situation which must come before your imaginary scenario.
AI is a mass psychotic delusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiSUGCC-gY
>>109317653>you like to imagine tech overlords suddenly sending out killer drones they built in secret to kill 99.999% of humansNo, I actually like to imagine human cattle dying in engineered wars, engineered "natural" disasters, from engineered diseases etc. Please tell me more how that's totally not gonna happen to you soon because your handlers love you and/or are afraid of you too much to do more of what they've been doing all over the globe. :^)
>>109317668>No, I actually like to imagine human cattle dying in engineered wars, engineered "natural" disasters, from engineered diseases etc.May God have mercy on you.
>>109317800May the Singularity reward the Elites with an afterlife in digital heaven. I can't even pretend they're doing anything wrong anymore. Human cattle is practically begging for it at this point.
>>109317979begging for it how
>>109318075Half of you retards believe in post-scarcity AI utopias and the other half cope about how clankers will never replace you at shit-shoveling.
>>109289077THIS IS BEYOND BASED
>>109314269ngl i kinda posted this to farm github stars but oh well
>>109318987You are trans
>>109320221Bonsia is a shithole
>>109289754snail scum in shambles, lmao
>>109320223Bosnia is superior to your country
>>109320221it's so sad that AI has been roped into the culture war, despite fundamentally really having nothing to do with it.i guess the (((elites))) can push anti-AI messaging to leftists to make opposing AI unappealing to normal people, and at the same time push being pro-AI to right wingers because if you are anti then you are a leftist and a tranny.meanwhile i'm both anti-AI and anti-trans, where is MY political echo chamber??
>>109320352They did it on purpose
>>109290150pargon pargon pargon
>>109290259Eehhhh I was saying this about a year ago when management said they weren’t going to expect more story points out of people (I’m infra so I don’t really do story points but I’m closely tied to our fullstack team) and now the workload is going up to match.. for a while it was gravy but now it’s just more brain rot than before. I have 35 PRs open at any given time and don’t even remember them by the time it’s reviewed. Claude just does all of it, soulless
>>109289077if you guys hate AI so much do not use this code that gives you access to the top Kimi K3 model for free for a few days
>>109317260>You have nothing to trade besides your labor which, by your own premise, is going to be worth nothing.And that's exactly the problem. If a society isn't going to provide jobs for a huge portion of its population, and doesn't otherwise provide for them, it's going to have a major problem on its hands very quickly. Large numbers of people who have nothing and no hope can become dangerous to those in power.
