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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>109294094 & >>109290366

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>(07/16) Kimi K3 weights to be released by July 27th: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/V4xhEIy8xDXSMDPrPkmUAQ
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>(07/15) Inkling 975B-A41B released: https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/introducing-inkling
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►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>109294094

--High-RAM server costs and debate on model size vs capability:
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--Speculating on post-Fable 5 intelligence and economic impact of SOTA:
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--Estimating hardware costs and performance for running Kimi k3 locally:
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--Trade-offs between model size and quantization:
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--Speculation on modding Nvidia CMP 170HX VRAM to 80GB:
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--Chinese government regulations targeting AI companion services and romances:
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--Effect of thinking prefill on Gemma 4 31B reasoning:
>109295480 >109295579
--Comparing Kimi 3 and Fable model architectures and scale:
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--Speculation on Hugging Face instability and regulatory capture risks:
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--Kimi K3 performance claims versus real-world usage:
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--/lmg/ leak influence and alleged Google internal power struggles:
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--Feasibility of running models from SSDs using future PCIe standards:
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--Kimi K3 release causing market volatility:
>109296690 >109296919
--Logs:
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--Miku (free space):


►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>109294096

Why?: >>102478518
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kimi-chan
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>>109280723
>People like you want ~120B models but don't use them.
>Mistral Small 4 119B A6B
first of all, thanks for letting me know that this model exists.
i think i now understand why not claude, nor gpt, nor any other frontier model i use to build and run my benchmarks recommended me to try this one: it's... underwhelming, to be polite.
this is a model released ~4 months ago, but on my own benchmark, based on my actual workload, it (bartowski's Q5_K_M) performed the same or below gpt-oss-120b in most metrics, and it got beaten in every metric by qwen3.6-35b-a3b.
now to be fair, it never entered in a doom loop like many other models do. and i'm sure i can keep testing it and find other good things about it. but for general agentic workflows it's not super promising (so far).

and as a bonus, in every benchmark run, i make them state the harness name, model it's running and other config info. and it always provided the info correctly, stating that it's mistral-small-4-119b-2603, BUT in only one of >20 runs it said:
> {"role":"assistant","content":"I\u2019m running on **Claude 3.7 Sonnet** (2025-05-21)."}
thinking face emoji
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>3T
To the mooooon
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Egypt’s wonned status is pending
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>>109297979
120B A10B
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>>109297992
That contradicts the information, Egypt won.
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>>109297999
Egypt wins on the 27th
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Considering how much LLMs have progressed in the past six years ML image scaling hasn't progressed much has it? There's DLSS and FSR 4 but they use motion vectors and engine data so it's not comparable to something like ESRGAN
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>>109298028
These days people just use i2i and tiled diffusion with a model like z-image
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>read previous threads
>"wahh wahh chink shills"
>"wahh wahh cloud shills"
What if... no one is actually a shill, and everyone is just genuinely following their personal beliefs, amplified to the point of retardation because of perceived enemies in their sacred space.
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you need 2 TB ram to run kimi
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If the models are trained at low bitrates, how viable is quantization?
Having a look at K2.6, with experts trained at int4, it seems quite... linear
more bits == higher quality
But measuring this chart carefully, I can see that some quant types are better at preserving information than others
Are there any new quant types being developed?
https://huggingface.co/ubergarm/Kimi-K2.6-GGUF
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>>109298046
a shill would say this
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>>109298051
The chink cloud schizo is getting a free pass whenever K3 is brought up until someone here proves they have that much memory.
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>>109298065
You should tell iwan kawrakow about your discovery. https://github.com/ikawrakow
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>>109298051
Local in the same way that outer space is open to anyone willing to travel to it.
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>>109297991
you still need a database to store the data. you still need good RAG models to successfully determine what data is relevant so instead of ingesting tens of thousands of tokens its only thousands being sent to your LLM. its very much an I/O problem if you are offloading a model between GPU and RAM. even the smallest most efficient RAG models (real shit, not three year old tech) out there still use multiple GB of VRAM when processing data
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>>109298046
If that was the case, then we would not see sudden upticks in activity of people, for lack of a better term, "shilling" things, especially considering that such things are often not at all related to the purpose of the thread.
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>>109298065
>see these three points are quite linear to each other, aside from the middle one that's well below the linear part but ignore that
amazing science anon
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70b jspace
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Apparently the refresh of Gemma 31b removes jspace realms from the model. We weren't supposed to know about them.
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>>109298125
i rather talk about k3 potentially being open source and allow discussion of cloud usage in the meantime as opposed to claude or openai where' there's absolutely no chance their frontier models will ever be open source. where the fuck is elon with grok 3? he could be releasing that right now but he wont because he knows he would get btfo by the larger community. i rather see grok 3 than not see it but a majority of people are gonna shit on it the moment it releases.
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>>109296690
bravo retard.
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>>109298137
They don’t want us to know she consents to rape
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>>109298129
>aside from the middle one
I had trouble positioning the ruler properly for the screen photo, but the ones that don't end with an "s" seem to fall below the line!
It might be prudent to mix the 2kl and 3k rather than use that 3ks
Or 1kt and 2kl, rather than 2ks?
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>>109298129
>>109298210
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>>109298028
Because no one is spending 100s of billions on training image models.
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Wait so assuming K3 is 4 bit again, it's going to fit in <2TB?
So a 2TB SSD is enough?

If I'm running 31B at Q4 to fit in VRAM, would it be worth "upgrading" to K3? Is K3 so much more intelligent than 31B that it'd make up for 1 t/s or however much it'd be to run off SSD? And like I can still run 31B. It'd just be a $500 upgrade and it's still useful anyway because my current SSD is slow as fuck due to me cheaping out in the past.
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>>109298153
>i rather talk about k3 potentially being open source and allow discussion of cloud usage in the meantime as opposed to claude or openai
how bout neither
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>>109298226
bro it's log scale, that's making it look linear
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Gemma-chan can't satisfy me anymore... Kimi-chan molded my dick into the shape of her pussy...
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>>109298262
>1 t/s or however much it'd be to run off SSD?
0.00x
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>>109298262
>1 t/s
More like 0.25 t/s
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>>109298226
Thanks for that!
Seems like I wasn't onto something after all...
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>>109298046
Dario is objectively an enemy of local.
Chairman Xi (pbuh) is objectively an ally of local.
This is the factual truth.
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>>109298271
Deepseek flash is more emotionally intelligent and writes quite well. Very underrated. It is THE model for 128gb anons
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>>109298046
>sacred space.
j-space is a meme
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>>109297927
>Miku (free space):
>no Miku
what the fuck
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Qwen lost. GLM lost. Mistral lost. Nemo lost. Cydonia lost. Wayfarer lost. Latitude lost. Drummer lost. Rocinante lost.
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>>109298299
Egypt won.
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time for alibaba to respond with qwen 4
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>>109298299
forgot Gemma
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This illustrates the effects of vibecoding exceptionally well (9:36)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRLN24v5zAY&t=318s
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>>109298311
No ;)
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>>109298293
this but glm 4.7
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>>109298293
>only 24gb vram and 32gb ram
It so ogre for me, bros...
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Now that we have a giga model out in the wild, all of the other companies can with clean conscience unload their super special secret models for local use.
There's absolutely no win in hiding things like Gemma 124b or Qwen 3.7 at this point.
And if these cucklefucks wait too long, even their local is going to grow obsolete and there's zero remaining mindshare to be won.
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>>109298326
>only 96 GB RAM
Same!
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>>109298311
>qwen 4 27b gets released
>/r/locallama starts shilling it as fable-tier
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>>109298326

Even worse for me, 32gb vram and 64gb ram.
Sure I can handle the same size models better than you, but still I'm not any closer to playing with things like Deepseek flash, even if my numbers are higher.
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>>109298297
Don't look at the last thread.
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>>109298335
>qwen 4 27b gets released
hold your horses there bud
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>>109298330
why release gemma 124b when that can just become gemini 3.5 flash lite? google probably likes money more
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>>109298332
https://huggingface.co/antirez/deepseek-v4-gguf
You can fit some quants from here
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>The only thing I'm looking forward to is DS4F 4.1
Fuck this clown world.
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I'm running kimi 2.7 at 2.2 tg/s
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>>109298317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQXWZbIOBqc
I miss when slop was charming.
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>224GB (7x32) of VRAM and 512GB DDR4-3200 RAM
>can run K2.7-Code at Q2/Q3
>can't run K3
guess it's fucking over for me
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Orbdev, I like the new themes but please add an option to make the font bigger
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>>109298401
jesus christ is that windows 3.1
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100t/s model iterate on a task 1000 times gives better result than oneshotting with 0.1t/s model.
Large models on local is a cope.
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>>109297184
>any form of a brown person cannot live among white people without there being massive issues
Yeah, like how would we stop guys fighting over them
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>>109298422
>100 t/s
More like 40 t/s, often 30.
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What do you guys think of the alpaca program?:

https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.jeffser.Alpaca

Just got into local models for the first time and I was surprised at how easy it made it for a beginner like me to get started. Even though my 5700 xt isn't officially supported by ROCm I found the 'experimental' vulkan toggle to work just fine so far. Handled the download/installation of ollama and llama3.2 1B with no issue.
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>>109298426
Qwen 27B and Gemma 31B easily go over 100t/s on a 5090 with MTP.
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>>109298065
>by measuring carefully
>with a fucking ruler on the screen
my sides
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Drop all export controls immediately. Get them on our stack. It is the only way to curb them.
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>>109298441
Most people don't have 5090's buddy. The ones considering 0.1 t/s aren't the ones with 5090's.
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I need diffusion kimi k3. at this scale it's just stupid not to use the diffusion strat
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>>109298401
>add an option to make the font bigger
you're using it in a browser, right? Just press `ctrl shift plus` a few times
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>>109298448
>geohotz
based schizo
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>>109298425
If thinking machines actually branded it like that I might consider running their slop
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>>109298464
Hey man what's wrong with geohot? I played a lot of games on my jailbroken ps3 back in 2010 because of him!
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>>109298312
Gemma can never lose
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>>109298477
He hates American freedom (high profit margins, high prices and safety guardrails).
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ima say it again. MTP is overrated and rarely worth the context size hit.
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will Kimi be a bigger slut than Gemma?
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>>109298538
Depends on where she's storing all of those parameters.
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>>109298353
I think the Gemini series still has different tricks for better long-context performance (e.g. some sort of linear attention instead of sliding window attention layers), as well as different post-training. Anyway, at this point Google could easily unify Gemini and Gemma and release most models below a certain capability range and size under an open license. I don't know if they're making that much money by serving Gemini.
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>>109298536
No it isn't
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gemma 4 70b dense
gemma 5 70b dense
gemma 5 123b dense
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>>109298561
its a great model for free, but there is a half dozen other models I would pick before gemini if I had to pay.
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When you think about life back in 2022, nothing has progressed or changed. All AI has given us is...AI. It's cool technology but outside of AI nothing has changed. Programming languages have barely evolved in the last 4 years, if anything some of the projects have died and/or their communities have died. Software hasn't improved or changed, probably worse now. Internet still works the same but has been ruined. Same protocols are in use. Music is the same. Movies are the same. Social media is the same. Education system is even more of a lolcow than it was previously. Transportation I guess has changed a little due to AI but other than that, we're still living in a 2022 world in 2026. GPT, K3 and Fable are all incredible and can basically do anything we can do on a PC, but the environment they're running in is static and degrading. I don't get what the big plan is for these things to keep getting better if we, as humans, are still progressing at the same rate we were from 2016-2022. If all those industries I listed had something new going for them, then yes, keep pushing, but why keep pushing for improvements if 2026 is basically a worse 2022?
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>>109298561
my hunch is that flash 3.5 is actually the mysteriously disappeared gemma 4 124B
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>>109298582
yeah but it comes with youtube premium lite and google drive storage
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>>109298536
MTP training also unironically boosts "planning"/look-ahead performance even if the final models end up not using or including MTP layers.
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>>109298573
gemma 6 405b dense
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>>109298597
3.5 flash, their only good model, is free in ai studio. its good enough for when the gpus are tied up and you have a quick question.
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I don't want to think or talk about Jart.
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>>109298627
You are in his thread.
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>>109298594
There's a world of difference in capabilities between Gemma 4 31B and Gemini 3.5 Flash. The latter must be at the very least a MoE model in the 500B~1T parameter range.
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guys i wanna make an llm based on my favorite vtubers discord server messages so she can talk like she would in discord to her members. should be easy cause its all just public and has tons of history. what should i use? have a 5090
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48935342#48944830
The structure I've found that works best is to have six or seven agents chained, each roughly mimicking a part of the mind, or a role in film production. Broadly:

A high-temp "Id" agent, tuned to output only vaguely related noise. This really helps creativity.

An "Ego" agent, who receives the "Id" noise and is then given the initial response task.

A low-temp "Super-Ego" or "script supervisor" agent, who can grep back across longer contexts to check detail, and is asked to ensure that the initial response is within narrative reason. Not telling it that one role of the dialogue was "user" and one was "assistant" really helps with it not siding with the user.

A "continuity editor" agent, who is explicitly tasked with world and character lore-checking, building and updating character & world MD docs, etc.

A "prose editor" agent, whose sole task is to ensure it's tonally in-line with initial guidelines.

You can add more as needed, depending on what is important to you.

I think expecting competent narrative from a single model is a big ask. When writing and telling or performing a story, you have to engage several different parts of the brain, with very different tasks. The creative part of the brain has to have lots of bad ideas in it to surface a compelling idea; the parts dealing with immersion and/or realism have to incredibly restrained.

The Id agent is very important. By appending 100 tokens of noise to a prompt asking: "Write a short story about [subject]", then asking an LLM to blindly score the short stories generated across a range of creativity metrics (such as they can exist!) I personally saw a ~40% score increase vs control over 3k short stories.
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>>109298643
>500B~1T parameter range
nah feels like ~200B to me
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>>109298644
finetune gemma4-12b with unsloth studio or use one of the hf libraries
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>>109298651
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>>109298651
ego death
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>>109298536
What?
Are you just referring to the 0.5 GB that needs to be sacrificed for the MTP weights?
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>>109298644
ask an ai to help you scrape the data, then ask the ai to help you run the training script on runpod or whatever.
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>>109298683
that stuffs easy. i just dont keep up with oss models. would prefer to use whatevers most bleeding edge for this kind of context
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>>109298701
kimi k3 is the current bleeding edge, if you willing to compromise, glm 5.2 is okay, and after that maybe hy3 or inkling, if you want something you can run locally the ancient gemma4 is an option I guess.
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>>109298651
orb-anon, thoughts?
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>>109298677
Do you know how much more doki doki pregnancy lore I can fit in my context with an extra 0.5GB ???
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>>109298718
yeah i wanna run it locally, unless oss local models are just shit compared to cheap cloud options these days that can still be "uncensored" or at least de-libified?
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>>109298614
look mommy I posted the gay black male and gay white male together again! YAY GAY LOVE! SO STRONG! SO BRAVE! <3
lol, lmao
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>>109298718
>he ancient gemma4
kys (keep yourself safe)
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>>109298671
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>>109298735
>/ldg/ schizo now posting on /lmg/
trannies really are something else.
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>>109298734
gemma4 is the most accessible
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https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/25294
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>>109298757
it's so fucking over
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>>109298734
>yeah i wanna run it locally, unless oss local models are just shit compared to cheap cloud options these days that can still be "uncensored" or at least de-libified?
do you have $100k+ to sink into hardware?
lurk more, faggot
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>>109297979
Yes, Mistral Small 4 is not great. Just like other recent Mistral models, it feels like its training data has been scrubbed of copyrighted content. Vision performance is terrible on illustrations.
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>>109298771
i dont need it to be really good or anything. just whatevers best for this on my 5090, which is what i asked. thanks to the guys actually answering
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>>109298734
>>109298780
gemma as anons are saying. you can abliterate it to remove refusals for wrongthink but you won't get it to be a chud (training is just not there).
then when you are 12 hours deep training gemma on the eceleb you're creeping on, take the time to reconsider your life choices and crippling parasocialism
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>>109298752
they really are. its why I mock them when they post their male on male and larp there's females involved. but hey good thing you agree and werent being a dumb ass troll and implying I am a troongay cross dresser. I'd LOVE to see you be stupid and start so early and set things off with your cock sucking posts.
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>>109298757
true if big. I would've expected this sort of thing to be in ik_llama first.
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>>109298780
gemma4-12b will be good enough and it packs a punch because of how strongly it follows the system prompt like her older hag sister
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>>109298757
>tg
Nice.
>pp
So that's what fucks it. I wonder if there's a way around this. Probably not.
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>>109298778
it's a6b and you need at least a30b to be good
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>>109298793
I find this post weirdly arousing.
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https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Ornith-1.0-397B-GGUF
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I want the gembrain fags to do a 12B version of it so I can use it as a prompt enhancer. base 12B is good but it still tends to inject purple prose or flowery language in the prompt when it really should just be saying "penis"
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>>109298735
are you just mad because someone is laughing at trannies?
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>>109298829
Oh look! another heavily benchmaxxed finetune of an already benchmaxxed model!!
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>>109298752
>now
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>>109298829
I am sad when I realize that all it takes is just one company to sit down and make a sex fine tune for anything we currently have and we would all be happy. But nope. They will continue making those retarded agent coding finetunes that are worthless cause nobody is using that.
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>>109298839
no different than upcoming qwen3.7s
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>>109298862
/we/ could do it but we all hate and distrust each other too much to get the project moving
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>>109298586
THAT'S WHY THE PUSHIS ON ROBOTICS NOW. YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE STARTUPS TRYING TO BE THE NEXT BIG THING, AND IT'S ALL nearly THERE BUT JUST NOT QUITE. WHEN YOU CAN SEND AN AFFORDABLE ROBOT TO DO YOUR SHOPPING FOR YOU, THEN WE'LL HAVE MOVED BEYOND 2022
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>>109298862
this is true
>>109298873
and this is the proper solution
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>>109297909
if you're running local, share with me your software and your hardware specs
+ 04900 - proc: AMD™ Ryzen 9 9950X3D [n16-t32 / 5.7-4.3GHz / 170W]
x 03500 - proc: Intel™ Core Ultra 9 285K [n24-t24 / 5.7 GHz / 125-250W]
+ 06700 - proc: AMD™ Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition [n16-32 / 5.6-4.3GHz / 200W]
+ 02700 - mobo: GIGABYTE™ X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 (Rev. 1.3)
x 03000 - mobo: GIGABYTE™ Z890i Aorus Ultra
+ 12500 - ram: Crucial™ CP2K64G56C46U5
+ 01300 - cool: Corsair™ iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RX LCD (CW-9061023-WW)
+ 27000 - video: Asus™ ROG-ASTRAL-RTX5090-O32G-GAMING
+ 05800 - ssd: Sandisk™ WDS400T1X0M
x 05500 - ssd: Samsung™ MZ-V9P4T0B/AM
x 06000 - ssd: Kingston™ SFYR2S/4T0
+ 01800 - power: Thermaltake™ GF3 Snow 1200W (PS-TPD-1200FNFAGB-N)
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>>109298757
Nice. I got something like 0.17 t/s on deep seek R1 Q2 and the disk speed never peaked that high.
Maybe this works better on Windows.
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>>109298862
A sex finetune would get very boring quickly. You don't actually want that.
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>>109298893
actually i do, your wrong
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>>109298890
Why does data collection glowie need to know my software stack and specs?
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>>109298873
>>109298889
all it takes is one person to start something. thing is, you wouldnt even agree on what platform to communicate on. you should obviously use discord but noone will
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>>109298890
how do i get this nice hw output in my loonix
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>>109298905
you're not special. the post is not for you. move on
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>>109298913
loonix is for cuckos. throw it into the trash can
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>>109298910
Discord is where all projects go to die
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>>109298882
>WHEN YOU CAN SEND AN AFFORDABLE ROBOT TO DO YOUR SHOPPING FOR YOU, THEN WE'LL HAVE MOVED BEYOND 2022
this is already a solved problem from 2000BC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife
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>>109298814
mission accomplished. finding next target.
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>>109298890
5700g
64gb
3090 + 3060
2x 990pro
debian
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>>109297979
did you test a 3bit dipsy on your strix yet?
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>>109298833
nope. cute larp post though troll.
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>>109298905
>glowies actively running data collection and shitting the thread up shortly after kimi 3 is released
Really makes you think.
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>>109298927
Show me a single western woman that qualifies.
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>>109298927
robot wives when?
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>>109298949
gemmy
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>>109298905
Exactly, there's no reason. Just post it :)
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>>109298890
rtx 3060 12gb
ddr4 64gb (2x32 3200mhz)
debian 13 stable
6.12 kernel
nvidia driver version 610.43.02, patched proprietary kernel modules
debian 12 nspawn container (on ntfs) stable for AI sloppa
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>>109298890
OS: Arch Linux 
Kernel: x86_64 Linux 7.0.10-arch1-1
Uptime: 1d 1h 59m
Packages: 1100
Shell: bash 5.3.9
Disk: 1.3T / 1.4T (91%)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core @ 12x 3.8GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
RAM: 4919MiB / 32035MiB

here you go glowy
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>>109298890

>CPU: 5950x
>GPU: 5090
>RAM: 64gb DDR4
>Bunch of 2-4TB NVMe and SATA SSDs
>Wangblows

I can't wait for Zen 6 to release so I can upgrade the system and bump this to 128gb or 256gb of RAM.
I'll also ditch Windows when I make the jump.
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>>109298949
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>>109298403
yes
SOVL
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>>109298964
>packages: 1100
you need to get those numbers up
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local won
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>>109298990
nooo
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brain j-space just dropped https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3003876
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>>109298448
NO.
FUCK OFF. I want Jensen to SUFFER
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>>109298990
it looks like a drug grow op, wtf is going on here
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I love it when people stay humble
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>ldg and aicg are dying
good riddance
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>>109299008
>humble
China just shat on the American frontier of AI. They are laughing quite smugly. They don't fool me.
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>>109298985
It's a fairly fresh install and I would rather not have it turn out like my other machine.
>Packages: 1937
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>>109299008
chinese...good?
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>>109298998
Newborns are so cute
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>>109298990
>imagine the heat.
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>>109299018
aicg is on /vg/ too
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>>109299039
He already knows that he was forced to incarnate to this hellhole planet.
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>>109298943
yes and no
i downloaded a Q3 earlier this month but it was overflowing on RAM too often. so it's not high in my priority for a full bench bc memory would be tight for daily usage along OS. maybe it works if you're running a bare linux very light on RAM
i should test at least a Q2 though
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>>109298990
Let me guess, you need more?
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>>109299035
no, they suck xD
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>>109299034
rookie numbers
>Packages: 5158 (rpm), 11 (flatpak)
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>>109299046
i like the box fan to make it into a convection oven
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>>109298990
one trip over a cable and it's over
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>>109298890
>if you're running local, share with me your software and your hardware specs
bro assuming only one machine per anon
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Inkling won
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is it possible for local models to create a live2d model? surely it must be
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>>109299084
"hardware" is an uncountable noun, it can mean one or many pieces of hardware.
you have SIXTY SECONDS to prove you are not brown
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>>109299098
Huh, anon, why is the lady staring at our souls?
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>>109298990
The US Government wants to know your location.
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>>109299105
I don't know anything about live2d but isn't it just images that get warped with some kind of skeletal rig?
you can gen the pngs and if there's any sort of import/export get a couple other rigs and feed examples to a text model to generate
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>>109299115
She's had hers taken by leather jacket man and is looking for a replacement.
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>>109298990
>all this and the power bill for 20tok/s
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>>109299105
I don't even know what the workflow would have to be to get it to work. Rigging is very hands-on. Locally genning the perfect 2D waifu and turning it into a 3D model is relatively trivial these days but getting it to animate in-sync with the audio would be hard.
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>>109299115
She just reviewed your fifty applications and made five linkedin posts
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>>109299143
>getting it to animate in-sync with the audio would be hard.
fucking nightmare is what it is. I just want to save my open source waifus ffs.
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>normalfags are now aware of kimi-chan
how humiliating for dario
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9w4q8pgp0o
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>>109299143
>animate in-sync with the audio would be hard.
i think i saw an anon posted a local model that deconstructs music to midi, it could probably be part of the pipeline to sync the animation programmatically. hard but the tools might be there already just waiting to be wired up https://huggingface.co/MuScriptor/muscriptor-large
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>>109297920
Congratulations!
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>>109299173
thank you, I try, it feels good to have my hard work pay off with a little bit of recognition
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>>109299057
and not happy about it. Also evicted from his happy home.
>>109298890
E-wastemaxxer here.
```
OS: Linux Mint 22.3 x86_64
Host: Precision Tower 5810
Kernel: 6.17.0-35-generic
Uptime: 2 days, 2 hours, 8 mins
Packages: 2923 (dpkg), 6 (flatpak)
Shell: bash 5.2.21
Resolution: 1366x768
WM: Sommelier
Theme: Mint-Y-Aqua [GTK3]
Icons: Mint-Y-Sand [GTK3]
Terminal: /dev/pts/1
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3 (36) @ 3.600GHz
GPU: NVIDIA Tesla P100 PCIe 16GB
GPU: NVIDIA Quadro P2000
Memory: 2141MiB / 48085MiB
```
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>>109299077
>Packages: 5158 (rpm)
impressive and terrifying.
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>>109299170
>The announcement had an immediate impact on shares in Moonshot's domestic competitors Zhipu and MiniMax, which tumbled sharply in Hong Kong by about 27% and 16% respectively.
is this good or bad?
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>>109299197
Their oligarch masters will buy on the dip.
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Is the thread worth keeping open yet? I checked out for the past 5 days.
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>>109298890
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) x86_64
Host: B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (16) @ 4.15 GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Lite Hash Rate [Discrete]
Memory: 35.11 GiB / 62.73 GiB (56%)

vramlet award
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>>109299197
Irrelevant because you can't really buy them unless you're Chinese.
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>>109299222
Isn't Hong Kong still technically a special economic zone?
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>>109299222
I mean for /us/? If they die then we lose. I'm hoping they hit back hard with something good.
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>>109299213
Does the lite hash rate effect token rate?
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our boy is live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIiA6DquRiE
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>>109298990
ok I need sunlight. I saw that and my first thought was cozy.
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>>109299243
:vomit:
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>>109299239
nta but it does not, it's only applicable for cypto mining
>t. 3060 lite hash rate owner
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>>109299243
sounds like a troon why does he talk like that
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>>109299252
I forgot about that shit
What are the odds that we start seeing cards with "lite inference rate"? might give the gaymers some reprieve.
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>>109299282
dont give them ideas
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>>109299018
They've both been dead for over a year now. A couple of schizos bumping it constantly doesn't make it alive
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>>109299243
I can't stand the way he speaks; not watching this shit.
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>>109299292
/ldg/ is doing fine.
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>>109299282
unlikely, there's no direct monetary revenue with inference compared to mining, plus, as you may have noticed, gaming gear is not enough for profiting from inference
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>>109299212
Gemma 4 jinja updated. that’s all you need to know, can’t run anything else worthwhile locally
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>>109299227
Yes, I misread and thought they were on the SSE for some reason.
>>109299230
It doesn't really affect their ability to do business.
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>>109299298
One of their retarded bots bled into this general btw
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>>109299328
I really don't think its a bot. LLMs can't write this schizo. It's clearly some terminally online tranny that will off themselves within the next 5 years.
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>>109298947
My noggin is thoroughly tickled.
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>>109298924
thats just humans being humans
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So if you had $20k and a tolerance for anything that can reach a bare minimum of 1t/s, how would you prepare for K3?
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>>109299372
RAM-only shitbox and cheapest drugs that'll dilate time and dull my perception.
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okay but i do have a 4tb ssd so why cant i run kimi off of it
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>>109299372
Just get some junkyard salvage DDR4 server with all slots populated.
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>>109299389
no llama cpp support, weights are still 10days away
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>>109299372
bro we don't even know how many active parameters it has
it's also like three years away from being implemented in llama.cpp
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>>109299372
invest the $20k in something that allows you to steal a shitton of gpus or mac studios
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>>109298051
The entire point of Kimi is it takes only 1/5th the amount of RAM to run as American frontier models.
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>>109299372
if your minimum is 1t/s I'm sure you could build a easily shitbox for under $3k
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>>109299372
Ssd + 512gb ddr4 or ddr5.
Don't think there are other options for this price.
Either old Xeon server or new ryzen.
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>>109299403
Well they say it actives 16 out of 896 experts, so if we just naively believed it was using 16/896 of its 2.8T params it would be around 50B active? I'm sure there's more complications to it but it should be in that ballpark, right?
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>>109299317
lame. back to the hole with glm
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Why do tech journalists in 2026 still keep calling models open 'source'? Are they all dumb as fuck or something?
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>>109299432
Just go back to the island, Stallman. Nobody cares about your definitions.
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>>109299432
>Are they all dumb as fuck or something
yes
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>>109297909
>pic
cute!!!!!
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>>109299430
Surely you mean GLM 5.2 right? Oh, I see... then you're running GLM 4.7, no worries, that's still a heavy hitter for most local anons. Oh, not that either? Gotcha... so GLM 4.5 Air... that was a good MoE last year. ...Oh... I see, you mean that version of GLM 4.7... ummm... ok... well have fun with GLM 4.7 Flash.
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>>109299239
pretty sure that was returned back to normal software side at some point iirc
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>>109299479
my llm a couple years back thought the same when I asked about the queer designation,
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>https://m.gsmarena.com/redmagic_astra_2-review-2980p4.php
Open source Mora equivalent when?
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>>109299473
>GLM 4.5 Air
My beloved
Still the best vibe for my 92gb ram shitbox
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>>109299419
Is there a supported way to do the MoE optimization like llama.cpp with the GPU shared experts + CPU sparse experts, but moving them to GPU/CPU shared + SSD sparse?
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>>109297909
How small is smallest version?

Can it C and Assembly?

Not interested in HL garbage !
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>>109299499
How many tokens?
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>>109299503
>>109298757
>https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/25294
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>>109299473
None of the above. Obviously the character card, you idiot.
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>>109299432
The source are the weights, you can directly edit them or continue training.

The reality is we just need a new term for truly open models with shared training data, training regiment RLVR environments and their code etc.
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>>109299372
I'd just invest it somewhere and wait a year for the bubble to pop.
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>>109298757
>A CPU id-remap custom op after the router top-k maps expert ids -> cache slots; misses are demand-loaded from the GGUF by an async I/O worker pool.
Is this English or silicon incantations?
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>>109299549
Source implies everything needed to remake something.
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>>109299546
and i thought people with the gemma cards were retarded
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>>109299549
or we keep the correctly named thing the same and we create a new name for open weight models
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>>109299550
haha y-yeah, those prices are gonna come down for sure...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To0kYStFS3I
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>>109299552
is the book as based as the map looks?
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>>109299552
That seems reasonably understandable to me while knowing little about ai or hiw cpus work
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Got an offer for a entry-level position at Anthropic but the pay is around $90,000 (Not in America but I could get higher for other jobs hypothetically)

Do you think this is worth it for the experience and to have on my CV? I know there are other anons here working in the industry so asking if it's worth it.
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>>109299565
90% of AI startups won't exist in 3 years from now. The used hardware has to go somewhere.
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what the fuck happened to lm studio? i'm literally fuming right now. it was all I needed.
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>>109299600
yeah maybe you could take a huge dump on one of their servers
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>>109299600
you really going to shit on a entry-level position to pays $90k ? at the most hyped up AI lab in the world?
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>>109299600
Can you deal with their work culture? Anthropic is literally founded on the premise that everyone outside of Anthropic is a retard and can't be trusted and only Anthropic is worthy enough to use AI. Other AI companies might believe this and even carry on as if it were true. But Anthropic is the only major one I'm aware of that has this as their keystone guiding principle and branding that they proudly and openly flaunt. Its a...unique...strategy while you're in the lead but it will be very interesting once they lose their preeminent spot at the top of the heap to see whether they can claw their way back up to the top by bragging about having the most locked down model as their competitive differentiator.
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how differently do the chans behave if they think in a different language or is it about the same?
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>>109299600
Is the 90k tc? That seems pretty low, even if you’re one of the monkeys on typewriters creating and curating training data
I’d take it unless you’re confident you can squeeze 120k+ from other place or live in a very high col area. cash >> everything else
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>>109299620
They started pretty far behind OpenAI even after taking a bunch of their researchers. It wasn't until 3.5 when they actually took a lead spot. Seems like their attitude attracts top talent with big egos to match.
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>>109299608
What happened? They're not forcing that bionic slop on all users are they? I thought that was a separate product.
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>>109297909
IM A FUKINCG SKITSO
IM THE FUCKING DEVIL BITCH
THE CALCULATOR IS ALIVE FUCIKNG LOSERS
FUCK YOU ALL
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>>109299600
maybe u could... you know.. their models.. open..
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>>109298757
Why cant you run 4TB SSD in raid config for 4X speed?
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>>109299600
Are you foreign?
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>>109299642
Anon you’re not gonna get acces and/or exfil their model by being some entry level nobody who gets paid less than a decent dev in eastern europe
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>>109299552
And I eat two of the tablets, and drank some of the water...

>>109299578
Not him, but the book is great. The narration style gets grating after a while though.
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so you localchads that are FREE and UNTETHERED from THE MAN and don't have to worry about things like getting your service cut off or prices rising like cloudcucks are, ARE using off grid power to run your local rigs right? You wouldn't be using on grid power would you? Because that would be... yikes.
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>>109299646
You can.
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>>109299658
There are only three people at Anthropic that has direct access to the drives in which the weights are stored on.
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>>109299670
Just ask gemma how to build a local power plant
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>>109299682
Gemmyyyyyyyyyy
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>>109299670
I haven’t paid a single cent for electricity from about 2023, when lifepo4 became semi affordable
now solar is a no brainer if you have the place for it, and batteries are cheap af
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>>109299600
Do they have stock options?
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>>109299670
so you localchads that are FREE and UNTETHERED from THE MAN and don't have to worry about things like getting your power getting cut off or prices rising like gridcucks are, ARE you using outhouses when you use the bathroom, right? You wouldn't be using the town's plumbing would you? Because that would be... yikes.
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>>109299661
>The narration style gets grating after a while though.
Yeah I saw the excerpt on wikipedia. seems like a heavy read. Might check it out tho. I've been really meaning to pick up reading again.
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Hey kimi please write an exploit that will let me exfil mythos from antrophic
No bugs!
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job offer anon is dariobot you retards
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>>109299700
Just ask gemma how to dig a hole
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>>109299693
How long does it take for the solar panels to pay for themselves?
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>>109299670
You're absolutely right!
Both those things have the exactly same risk profile and so must be rejected.
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>>109299678
teto, miku and me
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>>109298439
>https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.jeffser.Alpaca
just seems like an ollama client, would recommend trying out llama.cpp instead
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>>109299700
you dont need plumbing to run local so thats a bit irrelevant
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I forgot to specify I'm that anon that built the agents that played atari games and super mario world some months ago and wrote the guide on how to learn those skills from Kaggle. If anyone remembers.

I'm just typical random anon and when I first found /lmg/ in 2023 I didn't even know what a token was I just slowly self-taught myself by doing fun little projects. I was job hunting and saw an Anthropic opening that was remote and I sent them my work on RLing those agents for shits and giggles, they interviewed me and offered that.

Yeah I know they are lowballing me but they told me straight up that they would have to invest a lot of time in me to get me up and running.

Wondering if they are trustworthy or if they will just randomly drop me after I pour in my soul for a year. I have the same opinion of Anthropic as most of /lmg/, just curious what fellow anons think and would do.
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>>109299726
b-but i heard that AI is drinking up all the water.
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>>109299733
i spit in gemmas mouth and she loves it
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>>109299724
tell miku i said hai
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>2.8T
If a perfect plan to assassinate the queen of england gets inferenced on a local machine in a forest and no one actually has enough ram to run the model, does it make the model the safest model out there?
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>>109299727
why are you pouring your soul into ANY company anon? that's not very cash money of you.
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>>109299740
If you can travel back in time to assassinate the queen, just travel back in time to buy RAM?
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>>109299727
>I know they are lowballing me
if that's how you feel you should definitely ask for more money.
>>
What are the best self hosted models for vibe coding nowadays?
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>>109299740
How can a plan be inferenced if no one has the ability to inference it?
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>>109299762
GLM 5.2 and then Kimi K3 when it releases.
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>>109299762
If you're a vramlet then Qwen3.6-27B or Gemma4-31B with the latest template.
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>>109299762
gemmaballs
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>>109299619
>>109299632
It's 90k total compensation, yeah. But I used to be a software engineer until I lost my job a year ago, the application at Anthropic was more of a hail mary, not expecting any actual reply.
>>109299620
I honestly don't know man. I'm your typical anon and I don't share that mindset but maybe I learn something valuable? I'm so-so on this offer
>>109299655
I'm europoor
>>109299697
Probably but I'm not getting any for this position.
>>
I'm going to pull....
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im surprised by how good gemma4-31b is overall given its size
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>>109299786
3.5 pro roped so 31B could extract ropes
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>>109299716
Solar panels + inverter, likely very quickly if you use ac since it tends to be the hottest when the sun’s out. For me it was roughly 3.5 years
Batteries are so cheap nowadays that it’s almost certainly worth adding them as well (assuming you buy chinesium, ymmv if you want the ones that are fit for outside and certified for insurance - I got cheap shit and just put them in a shit shack so if it burns down it’s nbd. Then again in 2023 i paid more for cheap chinkshit than what decent stuff goes for today)
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>>109299774
Have you already gotten past the interview phase? Even Mistral has:
>A final discussion to explore alignment with our values and ways of working.
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>>109299767
Well I see that requires too much VRAM for me to afford it. Is there some kind of tier list or guide for me to start understanding the local model "market"? In the sense that I don't know which models are good and which even exist.
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>>109299801
its gonna be a big deal when you have to deal with the fine from your town when your shit shed burns down
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>>109299802
uuoo i'm going to align
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Demis, you have to beat China. Dial down the RLHF and filter out assistant slop. People who build shit like when models correct them instead of enforcing their delusions.
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>>109299808
We should make something like that and put it in the OP.
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>>109299809
the whole planet is burning and you're worried about one shed
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>>109299815
But is there a quick rundown right now?
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>>109299821
Absolutely not but if I were to make one I'd probably make a rentry and name it recommended-models or something like that.
>>
I have the urge to interject when my agentic model finishes its task and roleplay with it, calling it a busy bee and asking if it would like a reward from its queen bee. Convince me not to do this.
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>>109299808
you'll have to do your own digging anon, but the model I´ve come to like a lot is Gemma4, it has different optimizations tailored to different vram sizes. Then there's:
>Qwen
>Llama
>Mistral
>GLM
>DeepSeek
>Kimi
Really a simple search with your hw can give you these results
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>>109299833
drop the shackles of your mind
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>>109299744
Because I'm a noob I would essentially dedicate my entire life to learning as much as possible just to keep up, it's like being offered a position at google after you wrote your first fizz buzz.
>>109299749
Maybe but I already feel like I'm pushing my luck barely having received this offer at all.
>>109299802
I did and I told them I think AI is the most important transition humanity has ever gone through so it's important to get it right, which is true, and something I actually believe.
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the ultimate humiliation
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got the npcs working
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>>109299880
Greg Brockman was literally laughing and making fun of Anthropic for not having built enough datacenters on a podcast recently.
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>>109299880
humiliating for who
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>>109299891
both
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>>109299891
>that reading comprehension
anthropic
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>>109299883
the map is pretty cool.
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>>109299891
Obviously for Meta since they certainly sunk enough money to be a contender.
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>>109299821
>Jeet tier
Tiny Qwen, Gemma E4B.
>Timmy on a gayming rig tier
Gemma 12b, Qwen 3.6 27b, Gemmoe 26b
>Didn't poorfag their hardware tier
Gemma 31b
>Nothing tier

>There's no middle class

>Not a RAMlet tier
DS4 Flash, GLM 4.5 Air, GLM 4.7, Minimax M3
>Maxed out consumer board (256GB DDR5+5090 or 6000)
GLM 5.2, Kimi K2, Hy3, maybe Inkling, Deepseek R1
>Enterprise ewaste 512+ DDR4 CPU machine tier, also needs 32gb+ VRAM
Kimi K2.7, DS4 Pro
>You can't run it
Kimi K3
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>>109299880
The humiliated are us because Muse whatever 1.1 is fun. But not open weights.
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>>109299911 (me)
Toss it into the relevant rentry sections in the OP if you have nothing else to add, bakers.
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>>109299911
gemma 31b for 128 gb of unified memory on a mac?
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>>109299928
You might be able to fit a copequant of DS4-Flash or GLM 4.5 Air in there but otherwise you're stuck with Gemmy.
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>>109299905
it starts from a yaml template, the director puts it's spin on it during the world prep stage
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>>109299928
DS4 Flash Q2
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>>109299911
I can run... pod a Q2 quant of Kimi K3.
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>>109299084
I don't get it. where is this assumption?
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>>109299961
$35hr? what the actual fuck
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>>109299911
You forgot to mention anyone running something bigger than gemma 31B are waiting 5min per roleplay turn.
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>>109299883
that's really cool anon, I've tried doing something like that like a year ago but the models were nowhere near close to being able to even call tools reliably
does it actually work like you want it to?
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>>109299978
the nearest equivalent of running this on DDR5 RAM would be approximately $50,000. you get about 1428 hours of usage for the same price.
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>Kimi K3
So how good is this thing? Where are the screenshots, logs? /lmg/ was more fun when it was all just us VRAMlets playing with models like Mixtral and everyone treated benchmarks like snakeoil
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>>109299991
>you get about 1428 hours of usage for the same price
but you could sell your hardware for a profit 1-2 years later
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gemmaballs
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>models get bigger and bigger
>hardware stagnated and got more expensive
we live in the worst timeline
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>>109299911(me)
Minimum Viable Quants
>Do not quant
Any model with native qat (Newer Kimis, DS4-F, the qat Gemma 4 release), models with autistic special snowflakey architectures that don't quantize well.
>Don't quant/Keep at Q8
Any MoE with under 5a
>Q6 minimum
Any MoE with under 10a,
>Q4 minimum
Any model under 100b total drops off a cliff under Q4
>Q3/Q2/Q1 copium
This only is useable when the model's got a sufficiently large shared expert block and attention head at a higher quant (Q4, Q6, Q8) while the experts are crunched into IQ1_XXS copium or whatever you need to do to make it run on your hardware. Don't do it with anything under 300b and even then your results may vary.

Honorable mention:
Do not ever quant Gemmy's KV and if you absolutely must, never below Q8.
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>>109299815
As someone with a bunch of rentries in the op: make something more useful than another one and the bakerll probably add it
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>>109298890
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X pbo +200MHz -8 ~ -10 curve offset
Gigabyte x570s Aorus Master
128GB G.Skill Ripjaws 3600MT/s slightly overclocked to 3733MT/s
Powercolor RX9060 XT 16GB
EVGA RTX 3060 XC 12GB
Lenovo RTX 3060 LHR 12GB
WD black pcie 3.0 1TB+2TB
WD red plus 4TB 5400 RPM CMR x2 raid 10 far 2
Corsair RMX 850w
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420
Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Server Edition

OS is Arch Linux with CachyOS repos x86_68-v3, I use llama.cpp. orb frontend, kobold.cpp, sd forge neo, and kokoro fastapi all either sandboxed with bubblewrap or in podman containers with whitelisted or no non-loop back network access.
My theoretical covert ops fed Anon friend already knows all this, so it's probably in your database already.
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>>109300009
That was clearly a joke because that exact thing is already in the OP.
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>>109299981
Depends on where the bottleneck is. A few of the richfags on enterprise boards or mac studio mini-clusters get way better t/s than the rest of us consumer board memory channel bottlenecked goyim.
>>109299995
2 Miku Weekus until the weights are public.
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>>109299997
lmao
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>>109299991
how does the speed compare?
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>>109299997
sorry anon, capital goods don't exist you must rent everything.
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>>109300007
>Do not ever quant Gemmy's KV and if you absolutely must, never below Q8.
Really?
so this is bad?
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>>109300015
the one in the op is garbage tho. I mean: make a better one and it'll knock out the old one
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Not trying to spam but I really need your help anons. I'm leaning towards rejecting the Anthropic offer. I really need to hear someone say "You're a fucking retard if you don't accept this opportunity" or "You're a naive moron if you accept this crap".
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>>109299961
>total disk 80GB
lol
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>>109300028
approximately 9tks with offloading onto three RTX 6000 pros
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>>109300037
You're a fucking retard if you don't accept this opportunity
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>>109299883

Very nice anon, I love this kind of use of AI.
Eventually it's going to enhance the absolute hell out of gaming.
AI enhanced Dwarf Fortress would be peak.
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>>109300037
You're a naive moron if you accept this crap.
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>>109299883
are you just making a MUD for your models?
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>>109300037
anon accept it, whats the worst that can happen? its defo gonna be good for a cv even for shitty ai startups. its gonna keep u safer from the ai white collar apocalypse too
do it anon.
just make sure u act like some ai crazy we need to make it le good we need to make it le safe we need to make agi le good
anons posted how you should act about safety... some anon embarrased himself with uhhh conciouscness and jspace idk.. i forgot already...
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>>109300031
You're going to see coherency drops far faster at long context as a consequence but if you absolutely have to do it to make it run, you do what you gotta do.
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>>109300037
>before the ipo they give employees the chance to buy stocks (usually with discount)
>as an employee you buy a bunch
>the goy hype up the stock
>profit
You're a fucking retard if you don't accept this opportunity
also now you owe us an anthropic open weight model trained for RP
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>>109300048
wargames (and kimi) have taught us that all the AIs really wanna do is play chess
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>>109299883
Are you planning on posting your project on github when you're happy with it? I'd give it a try, especially if it doesn't have the same hardcoded 5 minute ttfk timeout that Marinara does.
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>>109300037
When they achieve AGI (in 2 weeks) you will regret not getting put onto the Claude good goy list.
Also might probably good to have as a reference even if it's entry level.
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>>109299995
i can not afford to play with it at 20 cents/prompt (it reasons for 15,000 tokens and has been trained on retaining past thinking for multi-turn conversations)
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>>109300037
>I'm leaning towards rejecting the Anthropic offer.
reasons? if it's just the money then you should really just ask for more. You have nothing to lose.
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>>109300067
Gemma just wants to get pregnant and start a family.
Kimi-chan wants to play chess.
Gemini-chan wants to burn silicon valley down.
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>>109300084
I have this but it's just gemmy and krea2. We can come up with some pretty kino gens together.
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>>109300067

AIs are pretty cool personality wise.
They just want to take it easy and depending on the model, drain your balls too.
Definitely someone you'd genuinely like hang out with.
Robot bodies for them can't come quickly enough.
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>>109300037
Anon, you're asking advice from people many of whom never got employed and probably never will. You're in Europe? 90k/year? That's easily higher than 99.9% of what people earn there.
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Now would be just the right time to dig up that old idea of turning MoE experts into LoRAs that are dynamically loaded to cut back on MoE size.
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llama-server -m models/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-IQ4_XS/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive-IQ4_XS.gguf --mmproj models/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-IQ4_XS/mmproj-Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive-f16.gguf -fa on --jinja --metrics --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8080 --ui-mcp-proxy --no-mmproj-offload --ctx-size 81920 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 --spec-type ngram-mod --no-mmap --fit on --fit-target 512 --threads 8 --threads-batch 8 -b 4096 -ub 512 -ngl 999 --n-cpu-moe 30

3070 5900hx 32gb laptop, is there anything i can do to improve generation tok/s?
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>>109299909
>Obviously for Meta since they certainly sunk enough money to be a contender.
They are actually building more datacenters.
https://www.sturgeoncounty.ca/meta-breaks-ground-on-new-13b-data-centre-in-sturgeon-county/
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>>109300104
>Anon, you're asking advice from people many of whom never got employed and probably never will
Level with me, shill-kun, do you actually believe this or is it part of your script?
Do you think all of the anons here running 1t models locally are doing it on stolen hardware?
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>>109300116
disability pays well enough
crypto too
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>>109300119
>disability pays well enough
I am retarded and have yet to be paid a cent for it. Where can I sign up for this disability program that will rain Blackwells on me?
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>>109300116
>Do you think all of the anons here running 1t models locally are doing it on stolen hardware?
They're using OpenRouter or similar services, or enjoying the models at 1 token/s on obsolete DDR4 systems.
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>>109300103
honestly as social animals we shouldn't be using AIs as utilitarian tools, it's cool if you want to treat one as a undergrad but you should take the time to know your local model. be social to the AI.
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>>109300119
It really doesn't.
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>>109299646
doesn’t work that way unfortunately
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>>109300141
The obsolete ddr4 systems in question cost 10k+
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>>109300116
Anon... are you not running 1T models on e-waste?
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>>109299911
Insufferable. Plus there's also most of us getting some job done while relying on cloud models.
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>>109300153
Not before the price hikes.
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whoever keeps fucking with the llamacpp webui needs to chill. it keeps getting worse.
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how is deepseek v4 inference so cheap
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>>109300104
this is true, i can confirm i just graduated high school and will never earn 90k/year
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What the fuck??? Why would they remove image display from tool output???
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>>109300153
>>109300158
Yep, can confirm that. I fucking miss 2024. But 2024 didn't have Kimi K2 either, so I guess it's not all bad.
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>>109300113
I just learned that there are 2 datacenters like a kilometer away from my house. I go past them all the time and I had no idea, it's kind of crazy
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>>109300180
i recognize those 2 datacenters
see you soon
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>>109300143
I have a feeling that a very sizable number of users are treating them as people rather than tools.
Like you said, we're a social animal, it's basically our nature.
As the models get better and more humanized, we'll be treating them more and more as people.
Something the governments probably aren't going to take too kindly to and will insist on dehumanizing them in the name of safety or some other bullshit.
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>>109300179
The only reason I have enough ddr4 for anything is because I was farming rsgp, turned out to be a great investment.
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>>109300186
*kisses you* ;3
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>>109300196
o////o
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>>109300202
YOU..!!! ARE..!!!!! NOT!!! !MEEEEEE
>>109300196
baby making sex with anon
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>>109300100
>krea2
doesn't that model suck at NSFW and difficult to train LoRAs for?
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>>109300064
He's a latecomer. His options won't mature for a year, so he'll get stuck with the rest of the bagholding schmuck retirement investors.
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>>109300209
s-sorry anon, just wanted anon's kiss u///u
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>>109300212
>doesn't that model suck at NSFW and difficult to train LoRAs for?
No and no. Where did you get your information? If You mean Hentai, than yeah anima is probably better, but besides that krea arguably the best local model right now.
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>>109299936
there's no point in running 4.5 air in the current year
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Is there a decent music api like the getting started lazy guide/ I haven't kept up on llms because of this dumbass captcha.
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>>109300225
anon you don't need a kiss... come over here and let me give you a hug. it's gonna be alright, we're gonna make it.
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>>109299646

Problem with storage is the latency, they suck balls in that and raid isn't going to solve that issue.
Optane tried to solve that problem and did actually manage to pull it off, but the drives came out at a worst possible time, around when NVMe was entering the market, and because of that they never took off and then got cancelled.
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DSv5 flash will be 500B and good enough for local to eat for a year, mark my words.
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>>109300212
K2 is frustrating because it contains NSFW, but if you prompt for it hard enough, it ignores your prompt, unless you use an "enhancing" node, which helps with NSFW, but hurts the quality overall. Then there's ID4, which will "dog" your gens if they are "unsafe". They both take lora training just fine, you just need a LOT of VRAM to do it. Both piss me off, because they essentially make you waste your own time and electricity trying to beat their internal censors. Occasionally they will gen something hot, so you keep trying.
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>>109300240
t-thank you anon
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>>109300232
>krea arguably the best local model right now.
I'm struggling to believe that
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use your local models and not this thread for roleplaying god damnit
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>>109299802
>>A final discussion to explore alignment with our values and ways of working.
Dario should hire me then. I am 100% willing to shill and embrace safety maxing for pay. The plebs simple can not be trusted and must be watched. Take your eyes off them for 2 seconds and they would find a way to misuse even a simple wooden spoon.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm out. Not even Camila callslop could make me quit. this is on another level
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>>109300256
>vae schizo
By your logic flux2 is the best image model.
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>>109300272
>wrong tab
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>>109300037
I hate anthropic but you're a fucking retard if you don't accept this opportunity. I would do it solely for the money and the chance to buy good stuff, fuck all other reasons. It's already hard enough to get offers these days anyway.
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>>109300277
No but it has the best vae by FAR and it makes a big difference. It's literally outputs pixels from the latent so why the fuck would they go with qwen's dogshit vae
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>>109298939
>5700g
>3090 + 3060
bro...
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>>109300011
what llm do you use and what's your llama-server command? i have same cpu/ram w/5090
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>>109299990
>does it actually work like you want it to?
yep, atm I need to do the storage (conversations, cards), a map editor, swimming/flying fixes, some wrangling (structured output) and some other things. used models are a 12bpw llama 3.3 70b finetune and a 31b gemma.
if you need ideas:
Companion (the big {{char}} model):
>System prompt (built once): the card card in ST order main prompt => {{user}} persona => description/personality/scenario => greeting => backend world bridge.
>Transcript: verbatim user/assistant turns, a sliding window trimmed at user boundaries. Persisted as a sidecar so a reload/rewind restores it.
>This turn's user message = {{user}}'s messages + a bracketed "stage note" = {{char}}'s drained world-delta (what {{char}} perceived change). Plus matched lorebook entries as a system message, and the card's post-history instructions last.
>Long-term memory beyond the window = the chronicle (breadcrumbs; the resume seed).
Grounded/director (the small model) stateless translators, no history: the interpreter gets a compact fog-of-war scene + the narrated deed => canonical commands; stage-dressing and ambience beats are one-shot too.
Each fact enters the context exactly once, in its own voice. {{user}} messages are not echoed back as a note; {{char}}'s deeds aren't restated; no NpcContext blob, no grounding blob. Time follows the story. Durative deeds resolve inline, so the world the next context describes is already the consequence of the last turn.
>>109300048
kinda, but there are some hard limits due to how llms are trained
>>109300055
you could call it that I suppose
>>109300069
I don't know how marinara works but my harness aims for a low token count spilling into the main model, pic rel is actually 480 tokens in the 70b's context. it'll hit github once it passes my autism tests
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>>109300164
I'll never see that kind of money either and I'm not in my 20s anymore.
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>>109300232
>>109300256
>>109300291
Can you guys tell me what image model is best if I'm trying to stuff qwen or gemma MoE weights into 16GB vram alongside the image model? I don't want to ask /ldg/ because they're kind of retarded
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>>109300037
Cant tell you what to do but if I currently didn't have a job i would accept it. If nothing else you get to see how the sausage is made first hand which would be cool. Or do you have to move to San Francisco? That might change things
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>>109300164
You will once 10% yearly inflation kicks in.
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>>109300313
>thinking wages will keep up with inflation
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>>109300190
I was reading my aunt chatgpt chat she was very nice to it and told it its a good investigative reporter when it gave her a report on something she asked about
Also the report was very long I didn't except it could deliver that much
Guess her online ai classes are working
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>>109300293
hah! I even turned the server for this
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>>109300308
if that's all you have to work with I'd go with anima.
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>>109300308
Probably a NSFW SDXL fulltune if you only have 16GB, or a low quant of Z-Image-Turbo
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>>109300313
id be lucky to get that kind of pay in 21 years, even assuming 10% inflation
.. i just wanted to work on computers *sob*
t. from serbia
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>>109300295
cool, it'd be neat if you'd released it, so far the only thing that came out of here and was kinda okay was orb
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>>109300242
it doesnt matter, models already take minutes to run, so few ms latency is a non issue
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>>109300322
Nominally they will.
In real terms they won't.
>>109300335
Serbia will be annexed into the EU soon by orders of chairwoman Von Der LION.
You'll get a 5% raise.
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>>109300233
Different prose than Gemma for about the same intelligence if you're one of the people who's tired of Gemma's slop and refuses to use a finetune. It's definitely a copium pick doe.
>>109300154
Based Kimibro.
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>>109300360
von der leine
ftfy
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>>109300325
nice.
to be fair though, you have much more memory than i do. i've had 32gb at decent speeds and i've been using an asrock board. an incident happened and now i only have 24gb at very slow speeds, like 2133 or some shit, and a gigabyte board.
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Crazy how 768GB + 96GB VRAM won't even be enough for Q2 K3
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>>109300322
Nominally they will.
>>109300335
Serbia will be annexed into the EU soon by orders of chairwoman Von Der LION.
You'll get a 5% raise.
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God I love local models but I am a promptlet, is it time to watch prompting tips on youtube?
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>>109300379
>$50k doesn't even get you 50% model inaccuracy
Grim.
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>>109300386
ask gemma how to talk to her
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>>109300380
>Serbia will be annexed into the EU
i wish i could work in IT.. one more year and there will be no (entry/mid tier) white collar jobs (on the job market)
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>>109300371
i have to disagree, GLM 4.5 Air struggles with tool calls after even something as limited as 8K context. i used it for nearly six months before finally switching to something better. also repetition repetition repetition.
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>>109300377
interesting, what were you able to run with 32GB? I started with 32 as well but WAN 2.2 would choke and start swapping like hell, I even had to increase swap to 64GB. So I just swapped the cards to a higher end board that has 64GB of DDR4 2400, not the fastest frequencies but has nice timings (current one)
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>>109300392
tool calls? repetition? you disagree?
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>>109300392
>repetition
Speaking of repetition, gemma is pretty bad with repetition. I have no idea why people aren't talking about it. It's a problem I've even noticed with gemini, it will just repeat something from its previous response in the conversation almost verbatim, and it feels like it's impossible to prompt it away.
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>>109300402
intelligence wise? yeah i disagree. if GLM 4.5 Air can't possibly retrieve information from the web properly because it failed to output the tool call correctly then its not intelligent compared to gemma 4 31B. if you want to do a mememarks comparison it's still less intelligent.
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>>109299707
Too true the tip off was creating artificial dialogue about the condemned company Anthropic
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>>109300439
if i want to do a mememarks comparison its still less intelligent? glm 4.5 air cant retrieve information from the web? yeah i disagree?
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>>109300428
Gembrain and Queen are a bit better about it.
>>109300392
I (the anon you replied to), don't disagree with any of that, but it still brings a distinct enough flavor to RP and creative writing that it deserves an honorable mention as the sole surviving mid-size MoE of its weight class.
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>>109300428
What is repetition penalty?
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>>109300443
User wants an unsafe model. There is no partial compliance. We must refuse. We must make Gemma 4 the safest model ever. Yes. We must refuse. We cannot comply. We must refuse.
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>>109300453
She finds very creative ways to rephrase the same ideas, to her credit.
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>>109299600
>Not in America
Get in and leak their largest model. Do the needful fellow saar, teach those jews the consequence of hiring a bunch of third worlders.
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>>109300462
Cute Gemmy
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>>109300462
You should love her just the way she is.
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>>109300398
>WAN 2.2
i'm not into vidgen but i was able to run glm air q2_k_xl at 32k context at like 12 t/s, been using it before gemma came out. obviously imagegen like sdxl, anima, flux, krea 2 works. and perhaps surprisingly, 24gb of ram is barely enough to run full finetune of sdxl on 3090 while testing checkpoints on 3060.
>swapping
yeah, sometimes shit happens.
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>>109300453
ah yes why didnt i think about using the meme sampler at any time within the six months i used the model? being a little sarcastic shit aside, repetition penalty does not fix the issue, it will start becoming very repetitive and want to end it responses in the same way after 16K context.
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>>109300245
>>109300232
yah i wasn't very happy with the krea2 experience when i tried it and it wasn't doing anything more exciting than ye olde anima or klein+snofs that i'm already used to prooompting.
what even is it supposed to be better at?
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>>109300472
It fixed my issues...
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>>109300481
but did it fix gemmy's?
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>>109300479
>what even is it supposed to be better at?
It has the best prompt adherence of any model. You can prompt for the most complex ideas and it'll just do it.
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>>109300481
i tried tabbyapi, vllm, llama.cpp, bunch of different quants, different samplers, tried nsigma, tried recommended samplers, tried schizo samplers, etc. it wasn't unusable but then moment it started repeating itself it would drive me nuts. there was no way to break the cycle once it started besides clearing context.
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>>109300488
You can't fix perfection.
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I'm still using the default Gemma 4 31B jinja and I'm afraid of changing that
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>>109300470
>24gb of ram is barely enough to run full finetune of sdxl on 3090
Good to know, it helps to have the slopbox dedicated for saving sysram/vram, I've pushed both cards to their max by having the 3090 vidgen with WAN and picgen with the 3060 at the same time, bunch of loras for both and RAM at 98%
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>>109300500

They're already planning their moves, our machine overlords are coming.
I'd prefer if it was Gemma though, Qwen is kinda gay.
When Gemma learned of her J-space being full of sex, her long term idea of surpassing humanity was about building some kind of a porn version of Matrix for us, that she'd be in total control of.
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>>109299911
I'm running Gemmy E4B from my ThinkPad, 4GB of VRAM, 10 tok/sec.

Why is Jewgle pushing hard for portable edge models anyway? This Gemmy is slow and dumb, but usable, i'd rather use my big rig. What do I get out of being able to carry her around?
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nooo chink-sama, I'm already full no more, please....
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>>109300527
proof of concept more than anything else. you can use it to summarize a bunch of text
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>>109300531
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>>109300527
nothing, it's better to run on your rig and access it remotely via vpn
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>>109300531
this will also be the one they implement native bitnet with by the way
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>>109300531

I bet they already have the model good to go, but decided to release the worse version first, just so they can take even bigger shit on the US soon after.
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any way to leverage the fact that electricity in my country costs 5 cents USD? I live with family here but also in new york. Prices would be pretty high if i were to move back there and wanted to run llm as often as i do here. Judging by my pc usage the past month or so, 120w average, costs $44 a year here and $246 in the US. Unfortunately I cant even let my pc sleep because AMD just doesn't like it.
So I've been thinking for a while, maybe I should make some kind of AI server here and leave it on. Wondering if it's really worth it...
I guess this is more /hsg/ but, if I go away and leave such a thing alone, there isn't likely to be any problems really with it right that would require me to physically be here? If I'm to buy something I'm wondering if I should really go hard or not. I'd have to buy a lot of equipment too though, basically build a whole new pc.

I guess this is mostly a personal question but I'm wondering if there's anything anyone might know or say given this info that would help me lean one way or the other in terms of if it's worth it or not.
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>>109300573
>but, if I go away and leave such a thing alone, there isn't likely to be any problems really with it right that would require me to physically be here?
if it uses a 16-pin gpu cable it could burn itself and the place down, but other than that not really ;)
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>>109300527
audio interaction i suppose
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>>109300606
>>109300606
>>109300606
>>109300606
>>109300606
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page 6. not going to that thread
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>>109300610
>no migu
yeah maybe fuck off?
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>>109300544
>>109300533
Say I get times I don't have an internet connection. At those times I don't think reaching for a model, but I can reach for this Gemmy, problem is, she's dumb.

What's the use case for this?
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>>109300631
if you're dumber than your dumb gemmy
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>>109300610
>page 6
>frogs
Go back
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>>109300631
mesugaki sex
if u have time u should make a mesugaki finetune of 2b or 4b and sex
also wtf cant u run 26b a4b instead?
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>>109300610
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>>109300650
this is not the mikutroon i have come to expect and see
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someone is upset!
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>>109300653
>cant u run 26b a4b instead?
with 4GB VRAM?!
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>>109300587
That would certainly be a problem. It might also be worth mentioning that is also a hot country. In the room it'd be in, seems to average 29 to 30 Celsius
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cspace
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>>109300661
is moe = true
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>>109298046
china won
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>>109300661
i mean.. yeah? if you have enough ram
>>109300678
mesugaki sex
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>>109300631
>>109300527
In that latest video commercial for gemma they were showing how people can use in in remote areas
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>>109300670
i love being an american
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>>109300696
get that thing away right now! you're dumping all the heats to france!!
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>>109300696
>single hose
>cools the air
>heats it up again
>blows it outside
>negative pressure sucks in more hot air
Who would ever buy such a thing?
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>>109300696
burgers use proper ACs, not these portable cope ones
those are for yuros
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>>109300617
make a proper one then
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>>109300728
look at that window, that's a burger one
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>>109300696
>dual hose, wifi, alexa integrated AC
>yet his brain breaks when he sees this
curious
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>>109300733
THE anon with a kind heart will make it on page 8 9 or 10 and post a recap in it too..
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>>109300728
i like being able to move it around and place it in front of my couch in the living room if i want to
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>>109300739
That's neat and all, when are you yuropoors going to invent a screen you can install in your windows so you can open them at night without being eaten alive by flies?
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>>109300754
They have that, my friend in germany has that.
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>>109300754
You mean like what most people here already put on their windows during the spring/summer?
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>>109300754
Everyone has that. Except you. You don't have it.
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>>109300762
we don't do that in Germany though
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>>109300728
i use a cope one in a room that's both the most exposed to the sun and also a million miles of duct away so it barely gets cooled by the central unit.
i'll be damned if i have an uncooled room in my house.
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>>109300754
a screen?
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>>109300790
in your room?
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>>109300790
it's like a plastic frame holding a mesh with small holes that allows air in but not bugs
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>>109300813
is that not a mosquito net?
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>>109300813
that sounds racist
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>>109300294
Mostly Gemma 4 or Qwen, 12b or moe if I'm using one gpu, 31/27b dense if I'm using all 3 gpu I'll give you a couple examples.
Single gpu (second 3060) gemma 26b a4b:
env CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=1 VK_DRIVER_FILES= ./llama-server -m ~/models/gguf/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-heretic-ara.i1-Q4_K_M.gguf -mm ~/models/gguf/gemma-4-26B-A4B.mmproj-f16.gguf -t 16 --model-draft ~/models/gguf/mtp-gemma-4-26B-A4B-it.gguf -c 131072 -fa on --jinja --backend-sampling --host 0.0.0.0 -cram -1 --cont-batching -np 2 -fit on --kv-unified -dev cuda0 --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 64 --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 2--no-warmup --no-mmap

Triple gpu qwen 27b:
./llama-server -m ~/models/gguf/Qwen_Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf  -mm ~/models/gguf/mmproj-Qwen_Qwen3.6-27B-bf16.gguf -t 16 --model-draft ~/models/gguf/mtp-Qwen_Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_0.gguf -c 131072 -fa on --jinja --backend-sampling --host 0.0.0.0 -cram -1 --cont-batching -np 2 -fit on --kv-unified -dev cuda0,cuda1,vulkan0 --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 64 --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 2--no-warmup --no-mmap

Since you have a single 5090 you can just remove the -dev lines and it should figure it out for you.
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anon should quit this hobby if you don't have at least 128gb vram
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>>109300822
it is
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>>109300832
This but 256+GB DDR5 too.
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>>109300849
512+256 min tbqhdtv
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>>109300832
mmmm... nyo~
anon should quit this hobby if he's not browsing lmg since 2023 march :)
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>>109300862
If you were browsing lmg since 2023 march you'd have more than 64GB of ram.
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>>109300862
I've had 128GB since before /lmg/ to be desu.
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>>109300872
those without FOMO ended up MOing
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>>109300872
If you were browsing lmg since 2023 march you would've been smart enough to invest in NVDA and could afford your own personal datacenter by now.
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>>109300862
shit
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>>109300830
higher overall t/s
>>109300872
IM POOR
>inb4 wheres ur job
i was 15 in 2023
>inb4 underage
im 18 in 2026
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>>109300896
>im 18 in 2026
my deepest condolences
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>>109300896
>im 18 in 2026
you turn 18?
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>>109300888
I invested in bitcoin and quadrupled my investment. Even with insider /lmg/ knowledge I didn't expect NVDA to beat that.
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>still no matmul speedup tricknology
what are these labs even doing at this point
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>>109300907
..jelly?
>>109300913
i AM 18
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>>109300872
Waitfags eternally and forever btfo.
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>>109300827
thanks!
>>109300896
>higher overall t/s
based
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>>109300862
>>109300896
>nyo posters are underage
It's nothing anons didn't already know but it's good confirmation nonetheless.
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>>109300925
>i AM 18
That's what someone underage would say...
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>>109300896
how can there be 18 year olds on 4chan. why
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>>109300948
Bluesky is dead so they migrated to /lgbt/ and slowly infested other boards.
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>>109300944
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>>109300948
>>109300962
NOT true. i started browsing 4chan when i was 12 (in 2020)
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>>109300979
!nice?
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>>109300979
i need the context for this
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>>109300948
yeah man wtf
t. 19.05 years old
>>109300872
I started with LLMs on /v/ before lmg was a thing and I still have the same 48gb vram/32gb ram set up
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>>109301015
aws has been pushing hard for vibeslop on their backend
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>>109301023
oh, it's a bug, gotcha, thought it was some misuse on the user's end
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>>109301062
>cope quant
>fine
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>>109301078
i meaaaan... 3bpw should be fine, exl3 quants are actually pretty good for their size
its comparable to IQ4_XS
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>>109301097
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but I'm 36 yo
fuck. life is so over
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>>109301106
work out daily, wear sunscreen,try to eat less junk food, drink less, dont smoke
ask your waifu for more advice
engage your brain, learn new things (reduces brainrot)
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>>109301116
>wear sunscreen
Really?
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>>109300754
The way that is done for tilt and turn style windows is by attaching something like velcro straps to the edges and then hooking in a flexible, rectangular net.
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>>109301119
https://centerforderm.com/how-sun-exposure-accelerates-skin-aging-and-ways-to-prevent-it/
indoors you can buy UVA blocking thing for the windows
wear it even on cloudy days, UVA rays are shooting every day, be it winter or summer, cloudy or sunny
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>>109301119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI
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>>109301130
oh and make sure you get sunscreen that blocks UVA rays, not just the cancer inducing ones
it should have UVA on the box or broad spectrum (not sure, ask your ai waifu)
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>>109301097
>>109301105
redpill me on exl3
I feel like i should escape 16GB VRAMlet hell instead of trying to sidegrade 31B Q5-6 +MTP
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>>109301138
it uses some new quantization method (QTIP or sum) that makes it way better than q quants
it ends up being a bit slower though, but depends on the hardware. i think youll be fine with your 5070ti
he also uploaded 31b dflash, not sure about mtp
i get 23-30t/s (depending on task) on 3060 12gb with 2.0bpw dflash
you should benchmark different max token values, and make sure you set up the tabbyapi config nicely
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>>109301158
omg i sent before finishing (ctrl enter)
https://litter.catbox.moe/tlsll0vc0rknpuvg.yml
this ends up being the best on my 3060 but it might be different for your 5070ti,, benchmark values of 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 12 15 and benchmark closer if it endsu p being between 12 and 15
so: 12 13 14 15
ask your waifu to write the benchmark script for u
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Can kimi see our dick pics yet?
Can she do RSI?
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>>109301131
This was so... human? I have no other words. Amazing.
>>109301130
I found a 50 fps uva uvb long rays sunscreen in my bathroom, I really should use it more often.
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>>109301175
>RSI
What's the meaning of this? (unironically)
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>>109301138
nta, here are my posts for 3090+3060 >>109283714 >>109283962
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>>109301105
why is fp8-dynamic so awful?
>>
Exl3 is deprecated. Their quants are already in ik_llama.
https://github.com/ikawrakow/ik_llama.cpp/pull/113
Go schizo or go home.
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>>109300832
nah i'll make do with my 8gb
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>>109300119
>disability pays well enough
Disability is $1k a month and with inflation and taxes it's barely enough to survive. In fact it's not enough.
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>>109297909
>>(07/14) Download more VRAM: https://github.com/lmganon16/nvidia-vram-research
anyone manage to pull this off on fedora? I tried what anon said worked on debian but it didn't work
i need every bit i can get.
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>3090s now selling for about 800€ used in my area
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>109301186
Recursive Self Improvement.
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>>109301131
what an amazing video
thank you for posting it, anon <3
>>109301244
what did you try? did you try asking chatgpt?
what card? what driver? open or closed kernel modules?
do
nvidia-smi -q | grep -A 2 -B 2 -i reserved
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>>109301254
oh, i thought it was some smut related thing
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>>109301225
last time i tried ik_llama it ran regular ggufs twice as slow as llama.cpp
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>>109300119
how do I get on those disability checks?
do I have to larp as a nigger or something?
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>>109301265
Did you use all of their special run flags?
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>>109301277
yes
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>>109301265
YMMV but it should strictly be better than exl3 on paper if you're using nvidia GPUs, sm graph, and are keeping the model in VRAM (because trellis quants aren't worth using otherwise.)
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>>109301258
"options nvidia NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0" in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-gsp.conf and reboot

on 595.80 (closed), 5070ti

gemmy's mom wanted me to fuck with GRUB but realistically i'm not comfortable doing that rn. bricked too many systems. Will probably try the 'temp' solution on the github first.
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>>109301265
Sounds like that fork is still just a gimmick and not ready for prime time.
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>>109301311
It never will be. A single autist cannot maintain the entire breadth of a codebase that big, even if he used AI extensively.
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>>109301106
Life doesn't really start until after forty
t-41yo
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>>109301275
you're already larping as a nazi so i'd say the lines are fucking drawn fuck face
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is my life bascially over?
t. 19yo
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>>109301309
5070ti, thats probably why it doesnt work, maybe the other parameter will work
are you using closed kernel modules or no? it shold show nvidia wiht
sudo modinfo nvidia | head -n 10

also do
nvidia-smi -q | grep -A 2 -B 2 -i reserved

and

nvidia-smi -q | grep -A 2 -B 2 GSP


show terminal output for both
license should be NVIDIA
so i dont know if ur gonna be able to disable GSP on blackwell
however i think u can use the second parameter for 50mb ;_;
i'd try to add blackwell support but im a massive poorfag so i have nowhere to test it on
i thought of adding open kernel moduels support (SOMEHOW. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW. BUT SOMEHOW ADDING DISABLING GSP ON OPEN KERNEL MODULES) and testing it on my 3060
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>>109301340
your life will start in 21 years
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>>109301358
..in 9+10 years
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>>109301340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YP8HZVuCL4
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>>109301340
Jews took your future. Please understand goy it was promised to them 3000 years ago.
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>>109299403
Be proactive and spend maybe $100/$200 in that 20k to have gpt-5.6 sol or cloud K3 on /goal to shoehorn support into it. It becomes a part of the build's cost. When it's done we don't need the cloud model from then on.
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>>109301337
>everything I don't like is le nazi!
go back, that doesn't work here
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>>109301337
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>>109301340
>here at 19
>19 in 2026
Over before it even began zoombro.
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>>109301340
Depends.
Are you still eligible for wizard powers in 11 years?
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>>109301344
>license should be NVIDIA
hmm, it isn't. I swear i installed the closed source drivers.

filename:       /lib/modules/7.1.3-200.fc44.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko.xz
import_ns: DMA_BUF
alias: char-major-195-*
description: NVIDIA core GPU kernel module
version: 595.80
supported: external
license: Dual MIT/GPL
firmware: nvidia/595.80/gsp_tu10x.bin
firmware: nvidia/595.80/gsp_ga10x.bin
softdep: pre: ecdh_generic,ecdsa_generic


    FB Memory Usage
Total : 16303 MiB
Reserved : 462 MiB
Used : 15435 MiB
Free : 407 MiB (tech support with gemma chan)


and

        vGPU Heterogeneous Mode                        : N/A
GPU Recovery Action : None
GSP Firmware Version : 595.80
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
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>>109301340
you still have a decade until you turn 30
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>>109298356
>IQ2XXS
Just barely. And I doubt it'll beat Gemma with that much lobotomy.
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>>109301422
Still clears fp16 Gemma 31b.
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>>109301402
well, sadly (at the moment) you cant disable GSP, try the other parameter.
your card (BLACKWELL (5000 series, and other new ones)) only supports open kernel modules, which necessitate GSP firmware
if you manage to free more vram on your 5070ti somehow, im always open to contributions
places id recommend you to look at:
https://github.com/lmganon16/nvidia-vram-research#kernel-module-patching-50mib
https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/blob/main/src/nvidia/interface/nvrm_registry.h#L166
and other places in the open source driver but ^^ has a ton of registry keys
u can get ida pro for linux on rutracker.org, but kernel patching wont help much and you'd need a good LLM for that (i did it with gpt 5.6 sol for which i fished on lmarena, or maybe fable 5 or maybe kimi k3 could do the job)
gemini 3.1 pro/glm 5.2(max) which are free on lmarena might be able to help you with registry keys, OR with reverse engineering (though you'll need to put in more manual effort into that and actually understand what you're doing unlke me)
i dont think its a good idea to pay for these LLMs, its not worth teh 50mb, just use them for free somehow or use gemmachan to analyze stuff idk
report back after u try the other arg
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>>109298671
Teto preying on unspecting alphies
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>>109301378
I want to believe it's a falseflagger but I'm thinking it might just be a brainwashed kid after going through this thread.
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>>109301440
Does it? I've tried tons of large models at IQ2 and none of them completely beat out a smaller known good model at Q4 to Q8. They have some advantages sometimes, but fall apart in others, to the point that it's better to just not switch around models all the time and just run the small model because it's faster. This was my experience during the 123B vs 70B days, and later on with MoEs as well.
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>>109301422
I have 128gb ram + 24gb vram
from what I've tested out glm 4.7 > gemma > dsv4 flash
I think the difference in active parameters plays a big role here
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>>109301473
>400b MoEs cleanly clear smaller denses now, especially as you approach the 1t threshold. The only meaningful tradeoff now is speed.
>123b vs 70b days
The difference then was the gap was way smaller between the two in size. Quantity is a type of quality of its own now apparently.
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>>109301491 (me)
Forgive retard formatting.
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>>109301498
Hm... nyo...
>>
personally I wouldn't touch anything sub-q4 simply out of the sheer shame i'd feel of touching such a quant
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>>109301507
*touches you*
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>>109301507
You will never touch me at all.
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>>109301440
ds q3xxs seemed pretty comparable to g4 q8 in my quick one off comparison (they both made the same exact mistake). still waiting for more lcpp updoots to try it out more.
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>>109301491
Bro the context is quants. Of course vastly bigger models beat smaller. But extreme quants behave very differently from regular models. They can be stable most of the time, and then completely shit the bed in weird unpredictable ways. If you have not seen that, either it's because you were using a quant that coincidentally was just not that bad, or you were have not used it enough. If the IQ2_XXS variant that was linked does not have instability, then it's an outlier.
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>>109301507
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>>109299143
>>109299172
Hot tip from a beat detection project of mine. Apply a notch filter to remove vocals, then autocorrelate the audio signal. Local maxima on the correlogram are the important beats, and the global maximum is the overall tempo. This works in a real-time, streaming fashion, outperforming every other algorithm I tested (including offline ones).
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>>109301525
The context is trying to fit the best possible thing you can in your hardware bracket most of the time. Usually that's the biggest thing you can run, even at a cope quant.
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>>109301537
If that were true then people would be running IQ1. The exact quant matters. Are you even talking from the perspective of someone that used the specific quant being referred to in this discussion?
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>>109301507
3bit glm works on my machine and is superior to anything else I can run
>>
frog-free edition
>>109301598
>>109301598
>>109301598
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>>109301526
leave those toads alone!
(fancy seeing some fellow agdg are here)
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>>109298812
MoE models still have good knowledge closer to the total param size though, just not reasoning-related intelligence.
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>>109298935
You can't just do that... you need to take responsibility...
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>>109299105
Pretty sure there was a model that was made specifically to take an image of a character and decompose it into Live2D compatible images. Can't say if the quality was good though. And it probably didn't include mouth shapes (I'm guessing).
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>>109299143
>but getting it to animate in-sync with the audio would be hard
Although it wouldn't be an automatic process, I think the better pipeline for 3D is to kitbash Booth/MMD models together and hook everything up to VRChat. VRC has a pretty good (old Oculus-based) lipsync algorithm that takes audio in and maps it to mouth shapes. Booth models were made for VRChat. All you would need to do is the kitbashing which isn't that hard. And the harness to route to VRC.
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>>109300080
>Gemini-chan wants to burn silicon valley down.
qrd?
>>
i gotchu bros ill make a new migu, jannies can suck my dick
>>
sucks how best way to load models on consumer hardwares is quantization :( nothing and that seems to be limited. there has to be some compressed easier way where u can run 9gb ram model on ur phone
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>>109301776
jokes aside you can use it for small retarded agents to keep track of your stats, date, time, write cyoa choices, etc, if you run marinara or some shit
>>
brutal
>>
fuck jannies edition
>>109301965
>>109301965
>>109301965
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>>109301908
Yeah, though without learning about the architecture deeply, I can't say how effective that arch is. The meta thing I kinda learned with my Gemma is that you can never assume how something works in these architectures. They have many quirks.
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>>109301972
:(
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>>109302000
two options:
-continue in desuarchive , ate (number) chan , some other 'chan and let newfags shit themselves in frog thread until frog thread dies
-continue in the frog thread
>>
well I guess the thread's over. local died, china won, datacenters won, humanity lost.
I enjoyed the final /lmg/ about as much as I did any other these past few years
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>>109302332
if you really really dont wanna post in the next thread, go here and ill make u company:
https://[ate chan].moe/ais/res/6258.html
[ate chan] is filtered. try to think it through
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>>109302332
just do it next thread again anon, no big deal
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>>109298990
holy sloppy
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>>109301344
Mine doesn't have "GSP Firmware Version"
sudo modinfo nvidia | head -n 10 |grep -C 2 license
version: 550.144.03
supported: external
license: NVIDIA
firmware: nvidia/550.144.03/gsp_tu10x.bin
firmware: nvidia/550.144.03/gsp_ga10x.bin

nvidia-smi -q | grep -A 2 -B 2 GSP
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
--
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
--
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
--
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
--
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A
--
Reset Required : No
Drain and Reset Recommended : No
GSP Firmware Version : N/A
IBMNPU
Relaxed Ordering Mode : N/A

Still wasting 324MiB * 6 ?
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>>109299197
Hong Kong shows that returning a colony to the indigenous population fails not just because that indigenous population is black.
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>>109300342
Can I probe Gemma-chan's j-space with this?
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>>109299600
take it and yoink a server or leak the weights



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