are all neets still asleep? Too lazy to post today?

>>109305663
busy working on my projects

>>109306509
what are the projects?

>>109306515
i'm making music and writing

>>109306608
Notice how they all do sales jobs. People on /g/ have spent the past 15 years demanding to know what the best-paying job would be, as though they are too fucking important to do the second-best-paying job. I stopped posting here for literally a decade because so many people here are such fucking faggots, and I only came back when AI seething started, because that's something I can get behind. Anyway, the best-paying jobs have always been sales jobs. That was my point.

>>109306752
how do i get into sales if i only have IT experience would they take me for entry sales jobs with no relevant exp

>>109306765
>>109306752
fuck it im gonna try applying to sales jobs starting today

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>submit job application
>ARE YOU AN INDIAN? DO YOU NEED A VISA?
>recruiter A reaches out to me
>ARE YOU AN INDIAN? DO YOU NEED A VISA?
>pass the first interview, get sent off to recruiter B
>ARE YOU AN INDIAN? DO YOU NEED A VISA?

>>109306811
so did they want indian or not?

>>109306811
well anon are you a indian or not?

>>109306811
Apply for jobs in India. They’re probably desperate for workers, given how many of them are in the West.

>>109306466
Why do you hate neets so much?

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>>109306811
sorry sir we can only to hiring the top talent

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spending the weekend prepping for interviews

it appears everyone got hired since this general is dead as fuck.

>>109310428
both generals are completely dead during weekends

My thread died noooo

>>109306531
Are you brown per chance?

>>109310646
No. Very white. I have a bit of a tan on my arms from running outdoors though.

>>109310672
Sorry I got it mixed up

unemployment is hell

>>109310873
underemployment is worse

> write a coverletter
> write a cv
> give it chatgpt to improve says its 9/10 guaranteed invite
> upload it
> a month passes get zero replies
> ask chatgpt what went wrong
> it says the application was shit
what the fuck why is it trolling me.

>>109310672
>a bit of tan
>from running
>outdoors
ugh. you sound white in color only.
WICOs are the worst.

>>109306752
how do i get into sales sar

>>109311746
Look for job titles that don't mean anything. The most common is "Account Manager" (you won't be a real manager) but there are plenty of variations on that.

You could also just get one of those jobs phoning people up and asking if they want to buy printer toner. I did that for two years, from 2012-14. It's not that bad, although it's a shitty sales job and you will need to make contacts and then move into a better job pretty quickly.

>>109308195
Indian min wage is $50 per month and average monthly income is $330 a month

>>109311535
kys iJeet

>>109313724
>look up positions for "Account Manager"
>50k-60k salary on average
At this point if you have to bust your balls for 8 hours (probably more) for a salary that isnt even livable then just go on fucking welare.

I want to share my curriculum but I don't want to get doxed. I must be doing something wrong because I haven't got a job in 3 years. Ok maybe I should be looking for jobs more harshly but I feel there is something wrong with my curriculum or what I'm doing.

>>109316619
just take out the names? Or paraphrase with a chatbot. You should always have two versions of your cv one blank and one with personal data.

>>109311535
You know ChatGPT is sycophantic by default, right? Sam Altman needs his engagement.

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I've been a front end developer for like 10 years or so but it is getting real fucking hard to find work, let alone maintain myself in a company.

What should I learn to get a better resume?

>>109317621
pivot to fullstack. like 70% of frontend jobs have been wiped out since the beginning of this year in my experience

>>109317639
Yeah, maybe that is the correct approach.
What is the easiest one to learn? Python maybe, or should I go to something that is sure to get my a job?

>>109317654
just start applying to fullstack react + python/node.js roles right away while learning node.js first and then python. almost all startups use that stack and enterprises use .NET/java

>>109317669
thanks for the help.
also, any other place I should sue besides linkedin? Every job posting already ahs 100+ applicants.

>>109317675
wellfound for startups. ask claude for more job sites specific to your country. don't waste your time applying on linkedin especially the quick apply thing

>>109317764
also hiring cafe is good for bigger companies

>>109317764
>>109317773
appreciate it.

im gonna go homeless lol

>>109317972
I've decided to quit my underemployment job. I'm giving in my two weeks notice tomorrow. i can't take it anymore. >>109316588
I have two months of savings if I pay the bare minimum on all of my debt. I can maybe stretch it out to four months if I find a nearby part time job soon. Otherwise I need to beg my parents for help. I hope at least one of the companies I'm interviewing with right now give me an offer.

I applied for a mid level dev role at a company, went through the full gauntlet and got rejected. This was about a year ago. I just saw a junior role at the same company and applied. Do I have any chance? I have 2yoe?

>been searching for a job for a year
>dad tells me if I go to college and get an associates I'll be able to find one after
lol

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>>109305663
Hey anons

I've been unemployed since getting my IT degree two years ago, and recently got a shitload of experience and certs in ethical hacking (even though every IT job rejects me for not having "experience"). Recently the air national guard has been hounding me to enlist and join their cyber warfare program since I qualify on the asvab.

I'm scared of going tomorrow and signing the contract. Should I do it? My friends and family keep giving me conflicting advice, and joining the military is something I've never been keen to do.

>>109318950
Yes

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>>109318950
In my country, you have to study for a year to work in military programming, just go for it.

I need to get these bills paid by the end of the month

>>109318789
Only works if you go into medical

>>109319408
not a chance. I hate boomers and women.

>>109311535

>oh, my bad! You’re totally right, the resume is bad

Have any anons gone back for grad school? Did it help?

Coming up on two years of unemployment since my CS undergrad. I live with my parents. I tried for a year to land a government job which didn't work out. I did some shitty "IT" job for a few months which I ended up quitting because it was just so demeaning. Now I self-study and work on personal projects full time.

Honestly, I don't even care about having a degree specifically. I just want something on my resume for now to apply for student internships or something. I don't care about the debt.

In a way this feels like only way out. I'm at the point now where I don't even want to apply for stuff because I know that even if I do get to an interview I'll just blow it because I have almost nothing to be marketable, or they'll want to know what I've been doing for all this time without a job.
I figure in the worst case its a resume gap filler. In the best case maybe it opens to door to a job, research, connections, etc.

>>109319659
>Have any anons gone back for grad school? Did it help?
starting next fall, ill let you know in 4 years when i get a bachelors in cs

>>109306765
>would they take me for entry sales jobs with no relevant exp
they'll take anyone. the jobs are bullshit though, you're just gonna be standing in a walmart trying to sell people phones or whatever. or worse, knock door to door

anyway, i have an offer from skillstorm (revature basically), but they require a security clearance, and my financial history/debt would probably get me rejected. i think i'm done with tech

I have a six year employment gap
How fucked am I
I've thought about presenting it as running my own business because I have done a lot of freelance stuff during that time and written a lot of code but I wonder if they might look deeper into the website I've put up and see that it's only been up for a month

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>21 year old unemployed tranny
>naturally "tech savvy" because of fucking course i am
>probably going to be homeless soon if i dont get my shit together and im thankful i was able to bum this far but still
how fucking stupid is it to try to get into IT? im also canadian and it seems like we're clamping down on indian labour because the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. i basically refuse to get a degree when AI is a thing because education in the ai-dependant climate would be a scarlet letter, long term. "You went to college in 2027? You definitely cheated, NEXT" type of thing. I'm also hot and a degenerate freak so unironically huffing a furry's ass for a job [see: "networking"] is on the table for the actual get-a-job process. But yeah how bad is the market and what would you all recommend? CompTIA's A+ definitely seems like a good starting point, can anyone vouch for the resources to learning the material enough to pass which aren't paywalled?

I'm still waiting to hear back from my last application. I didn't know that adulting would be so idle. Should I just watch a movie when waiting? I'm sure I'll become a good film critic if I do that.

Just blew one of those stupid online interviews.
I love breathing

>>109320229
I have a bsc and msc in AI from waterloo. No job :-(. I would try to get an IT repair job like Mr robot.

>>109320229
You are out of touch with reality on most of what you said in current climate. This field has become corpo slop. Being very technically strong is barely an asset, the hiring climate now is they want to see signals that you'd be a good cog in their machine, not that you're good at understanding GUIs or you can use a linux terminal or you can code or whatever. The days of the techie being valued for his technical skills are pretty much over, the field got saturated and now you're viewed more as a combination laborer/construction worker+business consultant/middle manager type rather than someone who gets paid for their unique technical skillset and ability to use their brain to solve problems

>>109320641
how do you know that if you're unemployed on 4chan

>>109320664
I'm just visiting from /twg/, actually I don't browse their anymore because utwg is more interesting and maybe I can actually help someone, but I belong at twg, have been employed in tech for the last 12 years straight

>>109320641
I think anon has good chances if he moves to some tech hub like SF or idk what exists in Canada and sits in a cafe all day being hyper focused on his tranny act. You are right of course that technical skills arent valued anymore but he is also right that a degree matters very little these days. The point is making connections going to events and showing interest works best if you are young doesnt work if you are older.
At least thats been my experience as a neet that has a degree and cannot escape the cycle...

>>109320699
I saw a pajeet walk into a company and apply for a job with his resume in hand and the manager told him to fuck off for being uninvited, the other day.

>called a company to get feedback about my resume getting rejected
>Oh don't worry anon, they probably haven't even seen it
>Wdym you haven't seen it? You have an application post only to not see the applications?
>She starts stuttering
I hate foids, I hate the current state of the world I hate everything I just want to work for money.

>>109311535
You need to be adversarial when using AI.
It will always try to be on your side like the so-loved jeets.
You need to fake like you're an HR that wants to know if your resume is worth going into and why.

>>109320423
did you make any friends? I see waterloo people doing very well for themselves on X.com. It seems to be the best engineering school in canada.

>>109321580
Yeah they got jobs in the greater toronto area. I myself went back to BC with my family and haven't found much in the vancouver area...

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another fine day in clownhellworld

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God tier pull

>>109322350
what are the replies?

>>109319984
>financial history/debt
How bad is it? I've heard you have to be half a mil in debt before they consider you a liability.

>>109320229
jewish bioweapon award

>>109322182
why would mr sanjaya das care to report on this

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Three interviews today, time to start bashing my head against a brick wall

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Whoever created and popularized this "create an account" format should be dragged behind the fucking shed

>>109323234
you wont get hired for shit ya bitch

>>109323508
i don't know why companies use workaday it's so horrible to use as an applicant

>>109323879
Because no one is interested in hiring anybody.

>>109324083
I want to hire myself

>>109322350
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/1v1cusp/those_of_you_who_graduated_with_a_cs_degree_but/
kinda useless thread the other you find via google is better.

I want to start a company that pays $15-20/hr for part-time SWE junior level work and $22.50/hr for not juniors part-time.

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have you ever been flown out for an interview?

>>109324411
great way to assemble a team of 100 vibeshitters slopping their agents at the shared slop codebase where nobody knows what breaks between updates or how to fix any of it

>>109320219
Nigga the people looking at your website have 2000 Indian websites to also look at, and they don't even understand why those warnings happen after an SSL expires. You'll be fine. In the 0.0000000000001% chance that they actually ask, say you renamed the company as a last-ditch attempt to save it, and you used to have a different website. Make up another domain name on the spot.

>>109320229
The CompTIA A+ got me a job in 2016. But all the experience I have gained since then still can't get me another IT job, so I wouldn't put too much hope in it. And the pay is shit now.

>>109322411
30k. it's in collections, and i could try to get a settlement and payment plan going, and MAYBE months down the line when they're approving/rejecting, they'll see that, but eh

>>109323234
Summary of today:
>Interview one, Company A (scenario panel interview, what would you do in X, what do you think of this image I'm sharing)
Went well, definitely a few areas I could've scored more points in. They also asked me two weirdo behavioral questions (I hate those). 7.5/10

>Interview two, company B (live coding interview, leetcode easy-medium)
Went almost perfectly, solved the question correctly and was able to answer the follow up questions, when asked to improve the time complexity I came up with a concept of a solution that didn't really work and needed a hint, but upon being given the hint I was able to solve it perfectly with optimal time complexity. 8.5/10

>Interview three, company B (behavioral interview)
Hard to say, I hate these interviews. I think I gave decent answers. 5.5-6/10. They kept asking me questions about security... lol
>what would you do if you had a tight deadline but didn't have access to your work laptop, but had a usb containing company files? would you plug it into your personal computer, or request a deadline extension
????????????????

>>109324413
they were offering business class flights but i lived too close so i got a free train instead

>>109324741
>But all the experience I have gained since then still can't get me another IT job
nigga how. What do you do?
>>109320219
Unironically get a job. literally any job so so you don't look a like a bum when you apply for tech jobs

>>109325232
30K is nothing. You'll be fine.

>>109324413
technically, I've already traveled to another state by bus because of an internship, but it's much poorer than it sounds.

>>109324378
>>109322350
why don't these niggas just become researchers it's a piss easy job pays decent in many locations and you get to do whatever the fuck you want so long as you can pull funding (project grants or industry contracts)

you also get to order your little bitch slave minions around

Is agentic coding really taking over jobs or is it more the indians?

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Is having a portfolio really that important?

I'm unemployed

>>109328488
this is the UNDERemployed tech workers general
gtfo

>>109327286
How do I get into this, I literally dream of it

>>109308195
No, that's the whole problem. There are infinity Indians; there are not enough jobs on the planet for all of them. It will never end.

>>109328001
Not really, what matters the most is making the HR whore's pussy feel tingly, that decides everything and your fate.

Do you like talking to girls on the internet and helping them fix their computers? If so:

My Discord Friend Applications ARE OPEN
3-stage admissions process. Voice interview required. Existing friends vote on applicants. 99% rejection rate. Enter at your own risk

> https://discord.gg/aUbtAeX7nH

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Another day rejected by AI

>>109328488
me too now

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>interview 2/6 with company A today (already know I'm making it to the final rounds)
>interview 3/6 with company B tomorrow (already in the final rounds)

>>109328763
there is no advanced tech sector in India. the "tech" businesses there that make money are "get a US visa with my course" and there are endless. it's all designed to make them work in the west. it is crazy. btw im employed where is my twg thread

>>109331332
india has offices for pretty much every F500 companies

>>109331377
yeah but they are the inidians who don't need visas. average indian has a higher chance to get an H1b than getting employed in those companies via nepotism

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>Hmm yes I see you have years of experience in this role whose duties are completely adjacent to our own and you would therefore need absolutely no training whatsoever to do the monkey-tier white collar work that most people could do frankly
>HOWEVER you did not do precisely the exact stuff this role asks for and its a hirer's market so hum hrm *bins your appy*

>>109330622
I have hour long technical interviews every day this week just give me the job you stupid fucks I can do your leetcode and talk about a project, can't you share these results with each other

>>109331548
how often do you actually get leetcode interviews? all the positions im applying to keep padding me with bullshit hiring manager screens and behavioral garbage. like every other interview is just talking and no coding, not even discussing language specific stuff.

>>109331614
i'm going for senior roles and have a strong cv, haven't ever not got past the easy screening interviews and barely care about them so I just remember/get annoyed by all the technical ones.

HR daycare roles have basically nothing relevant to be able to ask me for real screening

i got an interview for an EE/robotics/embedded position, should i bother with practicing leetcode over studying other shit? it dosent really seem like the type of company that would give leetcode problems

>>109331778
leetcode if you are just confident in the real work, it's stupid and useless and AI completely solves it, but companies use it anyway

>>109331778
Nope, if you haven't been practicing leetcode for at least 6 months prior to an interview then you have zero chance of passing a medium question anyways.

>>109332609
Why doesn't the Government ban AI so we can go back hot it was pre-AI, this will create more jobs. What is their obsession with AI anyway? The productivity goyim gains matter very little when you create mass societal upheaval due to mass unemployment.

I do find it funny how the twitter artist and reddit cope-ers think after openai stock goes down 5% and a couple of the shitter ai companies go bust suddenly AI won't exist

>>109332911

>the buildup of data centers is plummeting due to electricity costs, regulations and lack of capital
>wallstreet nor private credit is lending to ai hyperscalers anymore
>chinese ai models cheaper and better than subscription based western models
>enterprise not using western ai models because it is too expensive
>ai stocks going down

Keep coping AI cuck.

>>109332979
do you think I am a stock owner in anthropic, locally runnable chinese models being available to everyone isn't some kind of AI own

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The fuck do these companies even do?

>>109333041
anything, in a shit way, for a lot of money, BUT, whoever hired them can blame them not anyone internally

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why the hell do people have so many certs?? are they lying??
is just a ccna not sufficient for network engineering jobs?

>>109333041
Eyyyyyyyyyy

>>109333041
>corporations must abide laws
>its very easy to avoid them but whatever
>company sees market for employees who may be told "do everything I say" with zero protections
>wrangle in anyone from the third world
>offer them to companies
>take 70% of the worker's salary
>ally against them alongside client corporation, threaten to revoke their visa and send them back to durfagistandia
>that place has a rape rate in the triple digits so they dont want that to happen
>they do whatever they are told
>they tolerate very low wages
>they suffer through all the worst possible conditions
>they endure an extension of the caste system that ruined their origin country, now corporatized and in the west
>natives wont fight back (and if they do we'll just have the police kill them GEG)
>corporate profits soar despite everyone being jobless
>market does great despite average QOL tanking
>president can pretend he isnt retarded

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another day ending in -y

>>109333297
did someone send that shit to you? throwing shitfits at recruiters is so pathetic

>>109333389
Lokesh wasn't going to hire a white man, no reason to mask myself there

>>109333418
no wonder you're unemployed

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>>109333436

>>109326661
>What do you do?
We were a web hosting company, also offering servers and our own cloud platform, plus we had a datacentre downstairs that was far more lucrative than any of the fun services. In the end, we got bought out by another datacentre company who don't know the first fucking thing about Linux or how websites work, and they abolished those services so we could focus on plugging in cables and opening doors for customers whenever they came to visit. That was literally my job for like two years. I could easily be a Linux systems administrator now, but web hosting is basically kill. However, for any job I applied for, I always didn't quite have the specialist knowledge to only do that job. Maybe I just give interviewers the ick. Also, I live in England so all your America-centric jibber-jabber about making $150,000 to do a job that's easier than mine was does not apply to me, and my experience of the job market might be slightly different since private equity vultures don't fund startups over here in anything like the same way.

>>109329236
>Voice
Miss me with that gay shit

>>109333502
>1990s movie meme
and a boomer? wow

>>109333297
I knew someone who worked at moogsoft over covid, he did nothing but play video games for years kek, based to be honest

>>109333297
Give up and start your own business, no one is hiring.

>>109331778
why would a embedded position ask for leetcode thats stupid.

>>109333085
>are they lying??
The answer to this question regardless of context is always Yes.

accidentally sent the frontend version of my resume to a fullstack role that was a perfect fit. fucking hell

interviewer didn't join the meeting award

Anyone have that meme Doro image involving coding, agentic ai, and then going homeless?

>>109334560
my worst for this was being given an interview date on a bank holiday day

>dad tells me I need to go to uni (despite already having 5yoe as an swe) because "they have job fairs at uni"

>>109335541
you will always be kept at the bottom of jobs just for not having a degree, it's a useless bit of paper but go get it

Family's forcing me to go to grad school for CS instead of doing projects and applying for jobs how the hell do I get out of this.

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>>109335775
>grad school for CS

>>109335935
I'm telling them this is the biggest waste of time and money but they're stuck in that boomer mindset I think I'm fucked here.

>>109335946
Can you at least choose something other than CS? Then you have a backup.

>>109335956
Yeah that might be the plan but I'm still sour on this whole grad school thing to begin with.

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>>109335775
im in the same situation, the only benefit is that my dad says he'll support me with bills (not all of them, of course) if I get a part time job

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>applied to a job
>they want me to do an self recorded AI interview
>I completely fucked up my neck pulling a muscle lifting furniture
>not doing jack shit today because I'm just alternating between hot showers and laying on my back in pain
>they are now sending me text messages EVERY SINGLE FUCKING HOUR to do the video recording interview
you said I had 7 days holy shit fuck off what is this new HR inspired bullshit?

>>109337096
if you have any option at all do not do the humiliation ritual of these ai interviews. They probably just want you for training data and have zero chance of a job

>>109337125
I 100% blocked the number and reported it for spam. Whatever this new ai video interview format is is stupid