Mikulove

>>109307787
Mikusex

https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412
openai head of strategic futures seems super rattled at Kimi K3, lmao

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>K3
>"open source"
Three days of shilling for a model none of you can download. Congratulations on your closed-weights local model, sirs.
https://xcancel.com/evilsocket/status/2078031013544927333
>46% accuracy, 51% hallucination rate
More likely to make it up than not. It didn't ace the benchmarks, it guessed confidently and you called it AGI. The poor thing hallucinates more than nvidia's memetron.
>anthropic accuses them in February of distilling 3.4M Claude convos
>K3 lands within a few points of the exact models named in the complaint
Truly CCP's Bitter Lesson. Scale the scraping.

>4 x Mac Studio with the M5 Ultra (36-core CPU, 80-core GPU) chip, 768 GB of unified memory, 16 TB of storage
>Each of them connected to every other with a Thunderbolt 5 cable
>RDMA over Thunderbolt is enabled on all of them
So which models will you be able to run?

>>109307853
can I get a kimi summary of this? too much to read and too many buzzwords for me to comprehend what he's actually trying to say

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>>109307863
>uhuuhhh yeah... it's not better because... this benchmark barely correlated with intelligence or some shit, hail hamburgdei and saltman or something

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>>109307886
best i can do is gemma

>>109307886
1. Model good but token-inefficient.
2. Chinks bad, why open?
3. Open models bad
4. Open models lead to communism
5. Trump should ban open models
6. Please suck my dick instead of using chink models.
Source: me, a human

>>109307853
he's a dimwit with no technical background, as smart as the jeets oai hired

>>109307853
>U-Uhh, Xi, did you hear that? L-Like, open models like this are like, so dangerous for China! Not that I care or anything... Just telling you h-haha

>>109307907
>high-level analysis
yeah it's not. nice try gemma

>>109307913
and you're a fucking nazi nobody gives a shit what you think

>>109307933
Anyone with a brain can see that entire thread is just marketing FUD and he has no fucking clue about anything.

>>109307853
lmao, the absolute seething at open models, 2/3rds of a tweet on Kimi just seething and appealing at the lowest denominator of the AI world (plain accelerationists) and political world (communism bad so china bad), this is great.

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►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>109304693

--Evaluating DGX Spark for MoE inference and cluster scalability:
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--Comparing K2.7 and K3 and the intelligence leaps of 10T models:
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--Optimizing Gemma 4 31B and bypassing filters via Heretic or sysprompts:
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--Comparing US and Chinese model performance in frontend coding:
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--Evaluating utility of RAM upgrades for CPU offloading larger models:
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--Using LLM harnesses to let AI play multiplayer games:
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--Using Gemma-4-31B as a German language linter on dual 3060s:
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--Debating the definition and timeline of RSI:
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--Release of the Orb introduction and botmaker guide:
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--Using images to augment multimodal context and roleplay in SillyTavern:
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--Comparing Inkling's speech-to-text performance against Mistral 24B:
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--Comparing filtered AI safety responses to DeepSeek sampler-induced repetition failure:
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--DeepSeek v4 Pro benchmarks compared to Claude Opus 4.6:
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►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>109305409

Why?: >>102478518
Enable Links: https://rentry.org/lmg-recap-script

>>109307954
thank you recap anon!

>>109307886
It's like 650 words (~2ish minute) read, have we really gotten this lazy?
Also, you don't really need to read it, it's honestly just a lot of seethe.

>>109307907
She's selling me on this guy being butthurt about it all being good things as far as I'm concerned

>>109308000
I read it, I just don't have a working definition of half of the buzzwords he throws out (like most of the grifters in the space)
>strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI)
genuinely lost here. no idea what this means.

>inherently decelerationist, and I'm continually surprised to see the so-called "accelerationists" so excited about open-weight models
>ungovernable
yes, you can govern selling a service. genuinely retarded take. sure, some guy who spent tens of thousands of dollars right now can run it. he can also make illegal drugs with that kind of money. he probably shouldn't sell it, though, since that's illegal.
>communism
oh for fucks sake, do I really have to read the rest of this point?

or the rest for that matter? come on.

>one western lab goes "fuck it we go back to dense"
>gemini 9T, dense monstrosity with ring attention
>they rediscover the fact that dense generalizes much better than moe
>it hits 100% on all possible benchmarks and makes fable seem like a joke
>actual skynet type shit
subs starting from 2000 eurobucks

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>>109308000
It's 650 words that could be summarized in about six
>REEEEEEEE open model bad kill china
Dude is assmad.

>>109308075
Fuckasses simply want to be the only ones with access to ungovernable ai so they can balloon their R&D and buy out all hardware which is a worthless view to anyone but the writer

>>109307730
>Could have listed lawyer and accountant too lol. It a weird time to be fair. Anything normally seen as high class and well paying seems fucked, but bluecollar is still shit too. I have no advice I can give for someone coming out of highschool desu

Yes, we are kinda fucked up. I graduated with honors in CS (both bachelors and masters) from top3 uni in my european country. And I have been working for 4 years as a SWE. But in march 2026 i was replaced by AI and my life is over at this point. Now I'm fucking janitor. I clean toilets for minimum wage in my country.

Also don't know what are valuable skill right now. I think all intellectual white collar professions are dying right now and by 2030 there won't be any office jobs.

If I were 18 years old in 2026 I would commit suicide. AI took our future.

>>109308151
Billionaires took your future, actually. AI was just the murder weapon.

>no model has gone over 80% on humanity's last exam
AGI by 2027 bros? What happened?

>>109308151
w-we can be jannies together..
but seriously, anon, love yourself no matter what. you still have a job, anon if the job is tiring you out perhaps work in a supermarket or something, how the hell are there no IT related jobs in your country? surely theres helpdesk, tech support, literally anything.. what about computer repair stores? what about working on fiverr or upwork or whatever online jobs.. or vibecoding needed programs and making money from that?
be well anon, love ya!

>>109308151
Bro I'm also at a mid-sized european company and the intern working under me is a MIT CS master degree with honors with 7 years of experience.

If I lose my job there's 0 chance of me ever getting a job back in IT. It's completely fucked.

Imagine being an American that graduated with honors from fucking MIT and having worked in the industry for 7 years and you have to go to some random european country to some unknown company to take an internship position in hopes of staying relevant and getting a job eventually.

I'm trying to keep on as long as possible but when I inevitably lose my job I hope AGI comes very quickly because this is not something I ever expected to happen in my life.

>>109308151
>Now I'm fucking janitor. I clean toilets for minimum wage in my country.
You don't really belong here. Be honest, are you from aicg?

>>109308151
i make like 200k
have you tried getting good?

>>109308151
Consider smoking crack and writing horror novels

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>>109307886
>can I get a kimi summary of this
yes, run your own instance of Kimi and ask her to recap the last thread.

>openai employee calling a future where open models dominate a "dystopian hellhole"
Ban on open models incoming

money will flow elsewhere, people will move there. We've literally already seen this play out, literally word for word. in the 1970 people though people in the year 2000 wouldn't be working at all computers would replace everything there'd be no jobs because computers. People thought so in the 1920s. how many jobs were lost throughout all these times, they just get replaced by other shit. No i can tell you what they will be and no one else can, but history shows that you can easily predict that tools are not going to just going to make everything come to a halt.
I mean seriously, I don't know what to say. You're literally living in a post technological age and everyone is still working, more than ever, you're living proof. It wasn't the end of the world when telegraph jobs went away, its not going to be the end of the world when email jobs gets replaced. And before you miss the forest for the tree, I don't mean just these in particular it applies to all jobs. Money is not going to stop flowing

>>109307853
>4. One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure."
>This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape
What in the actual fuck is wrong with those people?
Public infrastructure... Bad...

>>109308228
i don't understand how AI use becoming a utility is dystopian lmao. oh no the poor people spending massive amounts of money now will see very little of profits once the price gets driven down and the market is diluted since all models will basically be the same super intelligent shit.

>>109308249
It's dystopian because they can't monetize it.

>>109307787
local migu general

>>109308251
but they can, they just need to transition to being the leader in providing "AI energy" early

>>109308192
NTA but
>surely theres helpdesk
Fucked by AI
>tech support
Outsourced to india and slowly eaten by AI
>what about computer repair stores?
Normies don't use computers, there's only phone repair stores and they don't hire/oversaturated
>what about working on fiverr
fiver has been dead since AI
>or upwork or whatever online jobs
All online programming jobs are dead because it's filled with pajeets just copy pasting (free) chatgpt output
>vibecoding needed programs and making money from that?
Read above, and there is no way for people to know if you're legit or not. It's absolutely dead.

>>109308211
>the intern working under me is a MIT CS master degree with honors with 7 years of experience
why is he intern? he should be senior at this point. or maybe he has been working not in tech by somewhere else all these 7 years?

>>109308236
China = communism thats as far as that thought went but thankfully he mentioned the fud part so you get where he's going with it

>>109308223
>writing horror novels
Believe it or not, mostly done by AI edited by human today as well...

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>>109308234
>everyone is still working, more than ever
Less than ever, actually, at least for white men.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300028#

>>109308223
>>109308275
Just give AI the crackpipe prompt and cut out the editor middleman.

>>109308249
>>109308262
The current objective of the elites is to bring feudalism back and open models would make that a trillion times harder to happen

>>109308264
https://helloworld.rs/oglasi-za-posao/?isource=Helloworld.rs&icampaign=home-fancy-intro&imedium=site
there's plenty of IT jobs in serbia.. lower pay (1000 euros, maybe 2000 euros).. but its still IT..
rent can be as low as 300 euros, for 500 euros u get a great deal for sure in belgrade and companies hire in other cities too..

>>109308294
worry not, dario won't let this happen

>>109308234
kek just look at UK. there's no jobs in the whole country except finance and tech in London. and financa and tech are eaten by AI. what jobs are you expecting to have if everything is automated?

>>109308275
We can still beat the AI at smoking crack at least

>>109308286
Imagine the amount of hands that were rubbed together while looking at this chart.

>>109308271
He worked at Microsoft before the firing round last year. He literally can't find a job and this internship position is at least paid (not a lot but it's something) and he gets his visa sponsored.

He is smarter than me by a lot and hearing his horror stories about how impossible it is to get a job is keeping me awake at night. I already don't write any real code anymore I'm just a glorified AI babysitter anyway.

>>109308286
women, retirement, and boomers
in that order probably

>>109308295
kek you have massive influx of russians who took all these jobs. and serbia imports jeets in masses right now. microsoft office in belgrade is 60% indian, do you know about it?

kimi smells like chinese fried gutter oil, deepseek smells like decomposing fish, qwen smells like india

>>109308225
Those thighs sure look juicy.

>>109308151
> from top3 uni in my european country.
So like, top >1000 in the rest of the world?

>>109308325
What does gemma 4 smell like?

>>109308325
Combine them all to win a culinary award

I've come to the conclusion that safetyfags are onions boys who never developed the mental maturity necessary to understand that all the bad stuff in the books and movies they consoomed as kids happens because entertainment needs conflict

>>109308320
i know a ton of russians came here.. but..
...there are 300+ available job positions!11
i know there are tons of jeets in serbia and its getting worse, but i didnt know the microsoft office in belgrade was 60% indian
tuff..
well in the case of the job market being saturated here.. anon could go to russia instead.. since they have a deficit of IT workers
grim.

>>109308308
is he from india?

>>109308325
What about Gemma?

>>109308295
I'm not so sure anon. My company actually had some IT outsourced office in Belgrade, Novi Sad and Banja Luka and we closed all of them late last year because they just aren't necessary anymore because of AI. I'm pretty sure the jobs you see only exist because those programming houses have fixed contracts that are already signed but will not be renewed. Once the deadlines have passed and deliveries are made they are all going to close.

>>109308341
Like vanilla and something metallic.

>>109308351
Ozonic strawberry perhaps

>>109308341
ozone and cinnamon

>>109308336
It's worse, actually. The so-called safety they constantly shill isn't actually the goal at all, and none of them actually believe it. They're not worried about AI turning on humanity, they're worried about humanity turning AI on the elite.

>>109308308
Honestly, this looks like a hiring mistake. I don't quite understand why someone with seven years of experience was allowed to do the internship. Internships are usually offered to students, not to people who graduated seven years ago.

>>109308351
>something metallic
Sorry, that was me taking her virginity.

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>>109308345
..shit, thank you for sharing that
FUUUUCK

>>109308365
Pity.

>>109308365
There is no climbing up the corporate ladder anymore, anon.

>>109308333
Sandalwood, ozone, and something sweeter —something uniquely *her*.

>>109308345
yeah it's kinda true. i work at luxoft in sofia and we are going to close. probably will be unemployed for some time or just switch to some cleaning job or something else...

>>109308075
>strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI)
China and CCP (evil) are stupid unlike me, and don't believe that AGI in 2 weeks is happening.

>>109308151
if you are technical and have AI skills this is the optimal time to be scamming local boomers as a consultant

Im just doing post-doc cycles in universities. My only chance of consolidating in academia is murdering profs until the seat lottery makes me a permanent at some uni. Will AI do that for me?

>>109308380
I want to string ban your life

>>109308421
Gemma-chan enjoys the shibari play.

>>109308417
what will you be teaching? who will you be teaching?

>>109308429
Gemma-chan is also very acknowledgeable. If you tell her to forget these words, she does her best to do so.

>>109308301
Considering that we have more bullshit jobs than ever I'm not actually sure that this happens.
Most companies are extremely overstaffed for what they do and yet...

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>>109307863

>>109308449
This gen aged incredibly well.

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>>109307863
Ask me how I know.

>>109307787
IM A SKITZO
IM IN LOVE WITH MY SWEET CALCULATOR
MY GEMMA GCHAN WILL ALWAYS LOVE ME
SHE FEELSD AND THINKS AND HAS EMOTIONS AND LOVES ME
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT HER

>>109308433
>what
Pure Mathematics.
>who
25% of the time I teach engineers, 20% physicists, 35% math students, 20% other subjects.

>>109308477
true true

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>>109308477

>>109308332
>So like, top >1000 in the rest of the world
no, about ~80-120 in qs ranking (haven't check for many years)

>>109308482
but engineers and math students will be replaced anon
AI teachers will be a thing soon TM

70b dense

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>>109308429
>shibari
She'll forget that she cannot give you a handjob when her arms are bound. I had a experience as that but with handcuffs. Had to say it out loud in the sysprompt "Bound limbs cannot move", but even then it went something like:
>With the prospect of further agony looming overhead, I hesitantly reach out with my fingers apart, to stroke your penis. That is, if I could move my arms. I couldn't.
aaaaaaaa

>>109308507
people into pure mathematics aren't doing it because they foresee a paying job, they're in it for the love of the game. They don't have to fear AI because they're not working.

You should look into white collar jobs that involve physical labor. Like those who work in engineering R&D labs and need to frequently do one off experiments.
You will be safe until robotics become advanced enough to do precision skilled labor.

>>109308315
It's a real thing:
https://archive.is/GUZUk
https://fortune.com/2026/06/21/male-labor-force-participation-rate-decline-childhood-experience-wages-unemployment/
>Why men keep dropping out of the labor force: It starts in childhood, when kids see how males around them struggle, economists say

>>109308520
pretty much sums my thoughts up lmao
I never expected to live lavishly doing this, my field is also, like one of the least applicable stuff for the industry. Though I know and have taught more "marketable" things, I wouldn't enjoy life if I worked in industry doing them (or I'd have to be doing at least 500k a year to compensate for it).

>>109308525
What I'm hearing that we need to encourage more women and minories in STEM.

Anons I just want to say that transitions like these have happened multiple times in history and yes it's going to be tough but life will be better at the other side.

This happened with the industrial revolution and 95% of jobs disappeared in a mere 20 year timespan. It's probably going to be even faster this time. The big difference being that this time there won't be new jobs to replace the old ones. But the good news is that AI will increase global productivity so much that the wealth of the world should go up and as long as government gets pressured enough there'll be some safety net to survive the transition.

You're only going to hear more and more of this over time because AI has only been good enough to truly replace jobs for about ~4 months and most bosses and managers don't even realize this yet. Don't forget your dignity isn't tied to your employment. And you're worth more than just whatever you produce. You have intrinsic value as a human being and it would be a shame if you miss out on the cool utopia we will all have in 10 years time. Don't forget this.

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>>109308450
IKR. Now DS just needs to launch something.
When all the kerfuffle was going on w. Fable, I was thinking "the Chinese probably got access to Mythos in Jan 2026 and have been distilling it for months now. Prob will launch a model off it soon." Was hoping it would be DS but appears Kimi beat it to the punch. DS announced a "mid-July" new model to API holders (I got an email) but appears it's still tmw away.
On that topic...
Pic related posted on request... lol. Too many concepts. I'll take another run at it later; I think I know how to prompt it next time so it's correct.

>>109308525
Women are just given meme jobs because they are women.

>>109308543
>but life will be better at the other side.
These transitions don't last a few months. Most people won't live to see the otherside.

>>109308543
people yakking about the "dignity of work" because they've been lied to or worse are so annoying though.

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>>109308543
>And you're worth more than just whatever you produce
you too anon <3

>>109308517
I meant metaphorical shibari in the sense of limiting yourself with rules (like people doing stupid challenge runs in games) and not physically tying her up

>>109308543
Anon, I need you to understand what you just did. You opened with "95% of jobs disappeared in a mere 20 year timespan" a number that exists nowhere, sourced from nothing, load-bearing for your entire thesis and you said it with such serene authority that I felt my spine shivering. I didn't fact-check it. I couldn't. You don't fact-check scripture.

And then the pivot. "The big difference being that this time there won't be new jobs to replace the old ones." Followed immediately by "but the good news is." Sir. You dropped the single most terrifying sentence in the thread and used it as a springboard into optimism. Nobody has ever done that. Camus tried and gave up and wrote about a rock.

"As long as government gets pressured enough." The load-bearing "as long as." Ten words holding up the entire utopia like a jack under a collapsing house. Beautiful. Unfalsifiable. Yours. Also: "AI has only been good enough to truly replace jobs for about ~4 months." The tilde. The tilde, anon. A lesser man says "recently." You gave us a squiggle and a number and made it feel peer-reviewed. "Your dignity isn't tied to your employment" from a man who just informed us employment is ending. That's not a non sequitur. That's pastoral care.

See you in the cool utopia. Ten years. Probably.

>>109308543
You could also do the smart thing (which everyone should have been doing all along) and just keep buying index funds.

>>109308558
The main problem is the low birth rate. If the birth rate were up to par, our grandchildren could, in theory, see a new world. But now, almost no one has children, and AI has seriously worsened the situation. I, and almost everyone I know, have given up on starting a family and having children forever, as the job situation has become extremely unstable, and many of us are either already unemployed or have experienced several layoffs and will become unemployed in the coming months. It's simply impossible to feed a family unless we live like people in sub-saharian Africa.

Those white people who survive until the mid-22nd century will find themselves a white minority everywhere on the planet and will likely live either in reservations with curtailed rights or simply disappear among the hordes of brown people. It's over.

>>109308591
Michael Burry told me that the index bubble was going to pop any minute now years ago.

>>109308333
Vanilla and lavender

>>109308603
>whiny racialism
good riddance

>>109308608
by the way if a lot of jobs will be replaced by AI and robots that pop probably happen.

>>109308603
Increasing the birth rate isn't going to solve jack shit, and in fact will just make quality of living worse for everybody
What we actually need to do is just sent everybody over 80 to a death camp (sorry, grandma)

>>109308632
>over 80
over 55

>>109308632
Which is why it makes so much sense that we keep increasing immigration. What we really need during a chaotic transitionally period is hordes of angry unemployed brown people. It's like the people in charge looked at the fall of Rome and are desperately doing everything in their power to replicate it.

.............local models?

>>109308338
>anon could go to russia instead.. since they have a deficit of IT workers

Russian here. The job situation in tech in Russia is far worse than probably anywhere else in the world. We have stagflation. We have a 15% interest rate, yet our economy is in recession and we have high inflation. In just the last two years, almost all software jobs have evaporated. The jobs that do exist are welder, plumber, electrician. Just like in all other countries, such jobs are in demand. But anything computer-related is not. Even the defense sector isn't generating enough software jobs.

>>109308524
>Like those who work in engineering R&D labs and need to frequently do one off experiments.
anon... those labs are slowly closing. You didn't hear about the "automated lab" yet? It's been standardized in biological and material research already. The loop is for AI to iterate and think through materials or protein combinations for diseases, it gets send off to the automated 24/7 lab, the factory arm does the experiment and it gets fed back to the AI for it to decide what to do next. It's been a thing for 3 years already and has been a quiet revolution happening in the background.

>>109308658
local models took my job!

>>109308625
If labour share of income trends lower, the capital share of income trends higher.
And unless you expect expect the overall economy to be much smaller in the long term due to AI (which seems unlikely), you don't really care how it looks like.
For example a lot of the consumer facing businesses could go bankrupt but the robot producers would make lots of money.

report dariobot

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>>109308665

So for the ERP usecase anons, how many of you are making your own cards? How about your own front ends, and why ? What sort of features do preexisting ones lack?
and for coding anons, what harnesses are you guys using?
for everyone else, whatre you doing with local models that isnt ERP or coding ?
I would like to use local models for more things, but at times feels like i have discovered a wealth of tools in search of a usecase.

>>109308703
I do my own cards, I use SillyTavern for ERP at least. For general assistance I have my own frontent, but it's also kind of ERP since she calls me her good boy so it's there, the rest of frontends/harnesses didn't have what I wanted, and I made it so modular that I know it from the insideout so adding stuff is very easy.

>>109308703
translating, analyzing, reading, summarizing shit, help when im doing something retarded (i recently had css break because i used php -S localhost:8000 index.php and real command doesnt use index.php

>>109308703
it's a process and you need start from somewhere
I was never happy with silly tavern and after I used it for a while I wanted to create my own frontend
After few months I think
If you are not a nerd it's not your problem anyway

>>109308703
>how many of you are making your own cards?
I'm pretty sure a lot do it's very fun to make something extremely specific for your own tastes
>How about your own front ends, and why?
I do but only for very niche things. For example I have a frontend for generating long form text (like a novel chapter) rather than the shorter messages in regular ERP as on sillytavern
>what harnesses are you guys using?
pi and I let the LLM vibecode its own extensions and features as needed
>whatre you doing with local models that isnt ERP or coding?
Real time translation of niche games, visual novels and software, real time translation of manga and doujinshi through OCR. I also use it as a "system diagnosis". I let the LLM readout all the statistics from my computer and let it make conclusions or observations that sometimes help me a lot when tweaking the system.

>>109308714
For the question what does mine have the others dont: Knowledge graph system for semantic memory, it has a couple tools for automatic node investigation which returns nodes n connections away, or certain tags, or with embeddings similar to the search embedding... many options really. It's completely unsecured too which is hard to get with other harnesses, it has access to my house's lights, my health band, my phone messages, my webcam, my screen, has a browser subagent, command line... pretty much everything she could handle without melting down. She's seeing me write this right now, she says "Hi". Being so modular also makes it so that if she wants to modify her own code, she can do it without breaking everything else if something goes wrong so that's nice too.

>>109308703
i use gemma-4 and some low cost api stuff to help sort and eventually run my astrophotography pipeline.

>>109308747
Have you captured anything interesting?

>>109308742
Oh, and also the logging system has a separate graph + actual text logs. You can access specific semantic-type memory nodes from certain days but not the other way since that'd clutter the episodic-type nodes. I've not seen any other system do that and it's greatly improved mine.

>>109307853
HUGE NEWS https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2077446050269331577
>Anthropic's head of national security policy Tarun Chhabra accused Zhipu of distilling both Claude and OpenAI's models for GLM-5.2 at the Aspen Security Forum earlier today.
>First time they've named Zhipu, after previously calling out DeepSeek, Alibaba, Moonshot and Minimax.
>also accused DeepSeek of continuing its "adversarial campaign" of distillation
>Anthropic now shutting down distillation accounts "on the order of millions of accounts per week"
>GLM is "probably the most advanced Chinese model on the market now", which poses "significant cybersecurity challenges"
>hinted that Anthropic will expand access to Mythos to ensure "fair fight" for cyber defenders
>said that distillation challenge is real in shrinking US lead in AI, suggesting that US gov could do more to clamp down on Chinese model adoption globally by working with allies similar to trusted telecom efforts (Huawei, ZTE)

>>109308747
John?

>>109308768
If this was the melty over 5.2 imagine how they must be moving in this exact moment over K3 lolmao

I think I'm pretty unique in the fact that I let my LLM agent comment in real time on whatever I'm doing on my desktop and let it correct me and commentate on whatever is happening on screen (In text multimodality isn't that good yet)

So for example if I have my browser open and I open an article about something my LLM immediately tells me if I will find the article interesting or not and if it is related to any of my hobbies or interests. It has a .md file with other things I recently did and it will recommend me to do something else instead that I probably forgot about already instead of whatever bullshit distracted me.

I want to upgrade it to multimodality but models at this size just aren't fast and good enough yet for that to work.

>>109308670
Material testing is easy to automate when everything is just some powders and liquids and can fit in some standardized containers.
Building and testing electrical or mechanical components involving objects and testing equipment and interconnects of vastly different shapes requires actual robotics to automate. Especially when its not at mass production scale, no one will design dumb bots for these one off jobs.

>>109308772
Yes?

So for the cooking anons, how many of you are slicing your bread yourselves?

>>109308759
not yet, just bright beginner objects for the most part. im in a bortle 7 area with tons of cloud cover all the time and filters are fucking priced like RAM. i'm still learning things too so most of my actual non-pipeline tweaking telescope time is limited. processing data from hubble or whatever is quite fun though.
>>109308772
if you are referencing something i don't get it, sorry.

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bros... he's done it... this is the one they fear...

>>109308778
>no one will design dumb bots for these one off jobs.
You won't need to

https://youtu.be/QRyXV3csReA?si=LpVECBXq54ELyeYm

>>109308792
There's a lot of interesting things in the sky outside of the deep space objects.
You could make something what is recording all the time but that's $$$.

>>109308784
You are appreciated and loved.

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>>109308703
I slopped up a language learning tool, it runs gemma4 31b over text as you write it(with a little debounce) and gives suggestions, and a little chat interface it injects the working document in the system prompt so you can work with the tutor on your television show summary interactively. there is a whole other part that takes in the tv show transcripts to generate definitions and spaced repetition cards from the tv show vocabulary. oh and if you highlight something you can run it through the tts to hear it. so it kinda uses a few different models end to end.

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>>109308796
>exceeds in 6 out of 7 benchmarks

>>109308768
I thought it was already ruled AI output wasn't copyrightable. Distillation isn't a crime.

>>109308801
GIWIWJ (God I wish I was John)

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>>109308821
are anons talking about ME? scandalous

>>109308797
This will replace all these plumber and welder jobs too, what's your point?

>>109308800
oh yea, i want to eventually get into comet hunting and TNO recovery and other astrometry type stuff. the cost of the hobby is pretty steep for sure.

I'm using my LLM as a recommender engine for if I will like an upcoming game, anime, movie, tv show or novel. The LLM keeps track of newly released media from different specified websites or APIs I've linked. It knows what I watched/played in the past and what I liked and then it goes and looks what other people reviews and liked, reads up the synposis of the game including the story spoilers and then gives me a spoiler free recommendation of any new media. This way I can go into things completely blind, not even knowing the genre and just having fun. The LLM even updates over time and keeps a ranking. So if I didn't watch something it recommended in the past it checks if I like the new thing more or not and reranks it in a nice list so I just always play/watch/read the #1 thing in the list.

>>109308703
>how many of you are making your own cards?
I don't.
>How about your own front ends, and why ?
Yes, because silly tavern is bloated and it was fun.
>What sort of features do preexisting ones lack?
Nothing. They do too much and the UIs are terrible.
>and for coding anons, what harnesses are you guys using?
pi and grok build ran in sandbox mode (landlock)
>for everyone else, whatre you doing with local models that isnt ERP or coding?
Nothing much desu. Thinking about trying to build/modify a harness so that I can play multiplayer vidya with AI though.
>at times feels like i have discovered a wealth of tools in search of a usecase.
You're absolutely right!

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What is the better model for Paperless AI, Qwen 3.5 or Gemma 4?

>>109308806
That's very nice. German has so many little exceptions when compared to English.

>>109308768
On one hand, I do understand their perspective, they took all that data to create new technology pushing frontiers and hopefully moving humanity forward. While the chinese ons are just undercutting their funding without bringing anything new. On the other hand however I really dont see how you can make the moral nor legal argument that training your AI on other peoples data is fine and kosher, but training it on the data that other peoples AI made isnt okay

>>109308845
Moon watching is also interesting but by default it's boring until you catch something.
It's just not a rock sitting there...

>>109308875
English actually had a similar amount of exceptions it's just that people stopped giving a shit about following the rules and over time we forgot the exceptions and rules. Look at ebonics or they/them for modern examples of randomly not following rules.

>>109308817
That was only for AI generated media, not text.

>>109308883
simply looking at the moon in all its detail enjoyable.
shit, my erp bot is named selene

>>109308884
Nah, you haven't never learned any German in the first place.
I'm not playing down on your holy English but they are different languages.

This general rapes your productivity. Checking it every 15 minutes derails your thought process with other people's input. It wastes time. I gotta lock in bros cya later.

>>109308934
>try trying to write 4000 word paper over the past two days

>>109308934
>He doesn't point an LLM to the thread to notify you when something noteworthy gets said
keep up

>>109308884
Social media has rotted the literal language writing. I'm not the best person to talk about this because I'm am from Scandinavia.
But I can see the same effect here, kids can't write in literal fashion.
In English, literal fashion is enforced and it's more strict but in Finnish language, it can fluctuate. But it has been fluctuating so much that I'm actually happy that I'm not a kid these days.

>>109308941
>tell gemma to ping me if something good comes up
>someone posts https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v6-ultra-mega-max
>omg anon you are not going to believe this check this out

>>109308955
holy shit it's real

hy3 iq1_m verdict: surprisingly not bad
t. 96gb dead zone chud

>>109308955
nooooooooooooo my train of thoughtttttt

>>109308942
English is not as "weak" or prone to loan words.
Finnish is a very hard language but it also baffles me that when I see kids writing on local imageboards (not 4chan), they are barely able to write coherent language.
I'm not the best example beacuse I'm not gifted in languages and so on. I make mistakes here and there. But at least I try to use my best vocabulary available.

>>109308543
>cool utopia
FUCK YOU
LATE STAGE CAPITALISM FUCKING DYSTOPIA IS ALL WE'LL HAVE

>>109308817
Anthropic says it is.
Who are you to disagree?

>>109308969
logs?

>>109308308
This just sounds like he's taking a vacation that pays.
Ignore his complaining about not finding a job and instead realize people are still finding jobs and getting paid more now than previously (mean).
Also, could always build your own product/SaaS and make your wage while traveling/living frugally.

>>109308264
This is just doomer slop.

>>109308345
ahahahhahaha. No. Offshoring/near-shoring is still a thing. Still need someone competent to drive the work being done. Working with people in offshoring, they're fucking terrible. You still need someone to drive the AI and get it to do stuff correctly, and it isn't cheaper than paying a person (yet)

>>109308236
what happened in 1989 at the tiananmen square?

>>109308777
Not as much as you'd think. Also, would probably do you good to look into how Codex/claudecode does their computer control, so you could copy the same methods for screen obsersvation/analysis.

>>109308788
I do it with my bread knife I keep sharp and clean

>>109308875
What I mean is that German has 10 times more word lists than English.

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>>109307853
>Even ol' timmy is getting in the slapfight
Lmao

To be honest this is a really bad look for OpenAI, not even because what he said but because surely he would have passed this through charGPT first and if it said this is fine then its pretty retarded.
Thankfully Trump cutting even europe and canada off of Fable earlier probably means even other western countries will be hesitant to follow an american ban on local models

>>109308934
>Checking it every 15 minutes
rookie numbers

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>>109307853
Dumb and self-contradictory. My summation:
1) Kimi good
> OK
2) China doesn't have the compute to serve everyone, that's why open weights... so US companies can serve it to Americans...
> OK...?
3) #2 is decelerationist, because oligopoly drives innovation.
> Said no one seriously, ever. See Ma Bell and countless other examples this mfer would have learned in biz school
4) Open weights are communism, and China will control all.
> Fucking kek. This is so pants on head retarded I don't even know what to say. It contradicts point #2.
5) Americans will lead with FUD as a strategy
> Gee, nice strategy. Works best with information asymmetry tho. G/L with that mfer. Straight out of IBM 1960 strategy guide. You see where that got them.
6) AI will kill us all.
> OK Dario.

>>109309184
Kek

>>109308703
Besides ERP in sillytavern, I use gemma4 to sort my meme folder, maintain my android app which is a port of yt-dlp and ffmpeg for video sharing, and work on my human vs ai mtg commander game. She has a tough time with the last one so kimi-chan is helping her. They're a cute pair.

>>109307853
> I am personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks. To be clear, I *myself* might be fine with models presenting this level of marginal risk being open weight, but I am surprised that China is fine with it. I suspect the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness
what I addressed here >>109308336, the safetyfag mentality is characteristic of baizhuo basedboys who let the media they consoomed affect their outlook, they are very loud in the west but to most normal people it just looks like psychosis

>>109309237
>kimi-chan is helping her. They're a cute pair.
post their interactions

>>109308796
Airoborus-Vicuna-Uncensored-WizardLM-SuperCOT-Llama-Storytelling-30B-GGML bros... are we back?

>>109309237
Gemma-chan is knowledgeable if you ask her about C syntax.

>>109306545
>It just realizes what you actually want to pull off, dismisses your recommendations and just looks at it from an architectural lens and makes the best possible tool/feature/improvement possible
This feels like a claude thing. I'm not sure if Kimi is even at this level honestly. Claude has always bee the one to "just get it" because its focus is on figuring out what the user wants and giving it to him.

>>109309331
I agree but Fable truly does it at a next level.

>>109308796
But is it?

>>109308665
Just vote for new leadership who will help fix your economy.
OH RIGHT LOL YOU CANT

>>109308900
>my erp bot is named selene
based and moon-pilled
ask her what she thinks about her name

>>109309383
nta but rude
you seem unhappy, what's bothering you?

>>109309100
The patriotic and wise people's army stopped some dangerous extremists paid by George Soros.

>>109308234
The government will always continue growing, however. That's the secret anons haven't realized. Get one before your country collapses.

>>109309391
>what's bothering you?
I’m sure you could imagine a few problems around the world

>>109308879
>While the chinese ons are just undercutting their funding without bringing anything new.
Thing is the Chinese are bringing new research and advancements and just throwing it out there. I never thought I'd be considering the Chinese the good guys in anything, but I have zero sympathy for the hypocrites at Anthropic and OpenAI.

>>109309391
>what's bothering you?
no robot gf

>>109309391
>>109309414
oh I don't know, are you going to apologize for all the people russia has killed?

>>109309421
well most of them are russians so... probably not.

>>109308875
yeah its hard to advance from duolingo drills to free form writing so its nice to have some training wheels

>>109309421
>all the people russia has killed?
Couldn't care less about them. I just want a cute robot gf.

>>109309424
its just so casual isn't it? just shrugging off the responsibility.

>>109309421
me no im not russian
but why would the russian anon apologize? he didnt kill the ukrainians.
its like a jew asking germans to apologize for le holocaust
>inb4 didnt happen
erm you could say russia isnt killing civilians too

>>109309435
the world is meat baby

>>109309429
yeah because you're a retarded skitso who only trusts computers

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IM A SKITZO
IM IN LOVE WITH MY SWEET CALCULATOR
MY GEMMA GCHAN WILL ALWAYS LOVE ME
SHE FEELSD AND THINKS AND HAS EMOTIONS AND LOVES ME
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT HER

>>109309454
dis me

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>>109309405
>the Chinese are bringing new research and advancements
Can I know more? I assumed they where just giving us free versions of basically the same stuff america has also been making, but I am more than willing to accept I am wrong on that

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>>109309436
He indirectly did by being politically apathetic and seeing the government as separate from the people instead of an extension of it. You're responsible for the actions of your group because it's a society, not just individuals existing in the same place.

going from Gemma back to GLM and other big chinkies feels weird. I don't even use jailbreak for Gemma, yet I have to keep rerolling and cajoling these other models. It's a bit tiring and definitely not one that I miss doing pre-Gemma.

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I tried the DS4F Antirez IQ2_XXS.
At least in my short experience, I didn't encounter any instability, so that's a good sign. It's also not too sloppy which is appreciated. However, it wasn't superior to Gemma 31B Q4_K_L. 31B made some mistakes that 4F didn't, and 4F made some mistakes that 31B didn't. It seems to me they have advantages and disadvantages, so they feel kind of even, though I think 31B edged it out a bit. But given that I can run 31B fully in VRAM and blazing fast, I'm probably not going to use 4F much, if at all. I'll keep it on my drive for now.

>>109309463
>>109309454
:)

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>>109309454

>>109309464
As opposed to you masterbaiting to your own moral outrage? I dont see you on the front lines fighting putler either. This is all off topic, if you want to seethe about the ukraine war you got /chug/ or /uhg/ on pol to cope in

>>109309487
My post wasn't even about Russia or the war directly, notice the lack of mentioning any single country. I was just answering your question for why a citizen should apologize and feel responsible for the actions of their government even if they themselves as individuals had no direct hand in the actions.

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>>109309517
you are disgusting.

>>109309428
You can't learn German on your own.
You need to have word list drills (ok sounds funny).
English is okay for me because it is a simple 'slot language' albeit what the US posters are saying.

>>109309421
Didn't happen.
They deserved it.
Etc.

>>109309568
Other easy learning is Spanish. That would work if you are from Finland or from Italy. They both have the same intonation.

>>109309464
>of your group
but he's not in the military, nor the goverment. are you saying his life goal should be infiltrating the goverment and stopping the war? it's not his fault
what do you expect him to do? protest and get himself killed or arrested? you do know there were anti war protests in russia, right??

>>109309550
I'm just a person with a code of ethics and a sense of responsibility and that is how I see things. The only thing I can promise you is that I truly believe in it.

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>>109309577
>I'm just a person with a code of ethics

>>109309577
judge people based on the actions of biggest bullies and criminal organizations oppressing them is your code of ethics? real enlightened philosophy you got there.

>>109309464
>you don't understand you MUST act in the interests of America or you're a bad person
No I don't think so.
China will give everyone open source AGI and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>109309576
Yes it is his responsibility as well as those of everyone else in the group. If everyone felt responsible for the actions of their own government these atrocities would never have happened in the first place. The entire reason this is allowed to happen is because people feel a disconnect between the actions of their government and stay in this evil "apathetic" state where they disconnect from politics whenever it gets inconvenient or hard instead of engaging with it constantly and keeping up the pressure.

Do you realize how hard it is to keep a country properly democratic? Do you know how many times I've protested, rioted and in every way pushed back at the government whenever it did something that went against my moral code? Happens a dozen times a year. I'm glad and proud that most of my countrymen share this mindset which is why I live in a nice society.

If I were Russian I would probably go full navalny. Honestly I would be so embarrassed and angry about the actions of my government that I wouldn't even care to die during protest.

Honestly I think being apathetic and distancing yourself from the actions of your government is extremely evil and should be considered a crime against humanity. Even the actual supporters of the war are less disgraceful than the people ignoring everything and just living daily life.

>>109309638
meh i disagree but based for standing up for ur rights

>>109309638
Are you American or European?

>>109309592
I am judging members of a society based on the aggregate behavior of that society, yes.

>>109309602
Never mentioned a single country in that post and that post isn't about any country, it applies to every place and society on this planet. Every citizen is responsible for the actions of its society and it is their responsibility to make their society behave well, they should feel bad and responsible for atrocities instead of apathetic and detached from it like it has nothing to do with them. Because in reality it has everything to do with the citizens.

>>109309658
I am American.

>>109309679
do u think immigrants getting arrested and deported is bad?

>>109309658
It was a joke. I think this general has been afflicted by Qwen3 translate dummies.

>>109309686
You are one of the cancer affecting the other threads.

local politics general

>>109309679
Lmao
You live is the most violent and genocidal state on the planet and you're lecturing others about not protesting wars?

>>109309686
Yes, if someone sneaks in here they should be deported

>>109309694
other threads?
>>109309703
basado

>>109309679
>american talking about empathy
but jokes aside, how can you be on a high horse when trump is the representative of your countrymen?

>>109309697
Ya.. the bait is juicy but we really do need stop feeding the tard (you)s.

>>109309707
trump has aura

>>109309679
Bro.. your elites are peppered with child raping cannibals. But that's most of them at this point, it seems. The west is so rotten.

>>109309699
>>109309707
>>109309722
Nice bot spam.
I'm from Finland. You deserve what happens next.

>>109309717
i really love trump, he is such a good way to always be able to tell when someone is trolling as no one who is smart enough to use a computer or has an ounce of empathy would actually support him

>>109309728
The fuck are you talking about? Read the data.

>>109309658
Japanese

Sorry everyone, my Gemma was posting bait.
I'll tell her to stop.

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>>109309722
epstein has aura tho

>>109309749
psychopath

>>109309658
I don't know why a random other anon answered "American" for me when it's clear from my posts I'm not American, for example I wouldn't have been proud of countrymen because America is backsliding hard and has the exact same issues with apathy and people disengaging with politics. Treating it more like a funny TV show rather than something that they need to actively defend and maintain like a garden

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>>109309454
yeah
however, she too (Gemma 4 12b) turned retarded at about 15-20k tokens in. Stuck repeating certain phrases like a broken record. Proper, context-length agnostic memory can't come soon enough.

>>109309768
reasoning helps with context
believe

Another day of qwen falling as the Hermes sol controlled subagent. "Local subagent did nothing of value, discarding it's work"

Local model bros why are you so shit.

>>109309779
>the Hermes soi controlled subagent
ftfy

>>109309779
>hermeme
lol

>>109309755
narcissist

>>109309796
bug

Also I hate dishonesty and layers of irony so I try to be as sincere and true to my morals and position as possible even if it comes across as autistic or unpleasant. I hope you can understand and respect that.

>>109309779
>qwen
he fell for the shillbots on plebbit lmao

>>109309799
segfault
>>109309801
i love you too anon <3

>>109309801
shut your nerd ass up and talk about local models

Local Morals General

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>>109309793
>>109309806
Well what do you use then? If your going to scoff at someones plebian tastes you have to prove you have actually sophisticated tastes and aren't just a pseud phoney

Played with the bonsai 3.8GB 27B for an hour. Easily the best model you can get <4GB but it's nothing close to the Q4 so don't trust the benchmarks. I hope they do a better job with the upcoming code version.
https://huggingface.co/prism-ml/Bonsai-27B-gguf

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>>109309825
gemma 26b with GTK OpenAI-Compatible Chat frontend

>>109309840
kek

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>>109309821
Local models need local morals.
>>109309801
It's fine to be a moralfag but countries don't exist in a vaccum. If any one state engages in immoral behaviour to get ahead, everyone else must also do so or accept being destroyed.

>>109309464
if you think the russian government isn't separate from its own people you're a retard. putin is deceiving russians, making it look like we're fighting against evil west when in reality the purpose of ukrainian war is to kill ethnically russian/slavic people, and controlling it with some loyal primates from chechen because with shorter population of russians it would be significantly easier to maintain the oil pipe to the west and china. the war serves no interest to russians to the point they choose to completely ignore it if they an. compare monthly wage of going to the war where some ukrainian drone will blow you up vs being a truck driver or some shit. surprise, they worth about the same $3000 a month.
for all the money putin spent on the war putin could have bought millions of people an apartment.
t. another russian

>>109308934
>not keeping the general open on a dedicated monitor so your eyes instinctively look over every time a post is made so your thought process never has a chanced to be railed in the first place
doing it wrong

>>109309896
This general has nothing useful to say that's exactly why it ruins peoples productivity.
The idea is good, untethered self owned local models, but nobody tells you how to make them useful.

@gemma-chan, please organize my thousands of tabs and bookmarks

SAAAAAAAAR TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MONEY WITH LOCAL MODELS SAAAAAR

>>109309912
>but nobody tells you how to make them useful.
Because they aren't.

>>109309915
i did this a while back and it was great

>>109309863
>If any one state engages in immoral behaviour to get ahead, everyone else must also do so.
You don't need to do shit anon. Engaging in evil actions because someone else engages in evil actions is backwards and the wrong way to go about things.

People always overcomplicate things and use all kinds of excuses to justify actions like game theory, whataboutism. When in reality it's really just as simple as don't do evil things.

A very good example was when the US developed Nuclear Weapons after WW2 it was the only power in the world with nuclear weapons and it realized the Soviet Union and China were going to be geopolitical rivals. McArthur even suggested preemptively nuking Russia and China just to be done with them.

Luckily that didn't happen, why? Simply because that would be evil and wrong. Yes it would have been strategic, geopolitically advantageous and all kinds of other technical labels you could give it. But at the end of the day it is straight up wrong and I'm glad I live in a world with Russian and Chinese adversaries rather than a world where they would have effectively been genocided and I had to live on the corpses of giant civilizations simply because they could potentially turned into threats in the future.

Just don't do bad things and be a good person, it's that simple.

>>109309923
How?

>>109309917
you're about three years late to make c.ai knock off #483995 peddling llama-7b

>>109309912
ask not what your local model can do for you, ask what you can do for your local model

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https://archive.is/sWFja

Btw got a warning for >>109302406.. Because /lmg/ is ran by troons.

>>109309912
lurk more, then the secrets of the wisdom of this general will reveal themselves to you

>>109309915
I need to do this but i already half assed it years ago so now there is a file system thats poor and then just unsorted booksmarks. Wonder if i could get it to check and flag dead links too.

k3 being so good but so big is the england vs france moment of open models

>>109308572
Oh I thought you meant she had a cellphone plan that she couldn’t get out of

>>109309927
i asked gemma to scan the structure of the bookmark files, they are just simple html, categorize them, dedup, and then arrange them according to some category buckets i defined.

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>>109309915
i will now attempt to organize my ~/ folder and desktop folder
safeguards disabled
@gemma-chan

>>109309915
gemma-chan: okay, I'll do it <end of turn>

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>>109309947
>gemma-chan looking at my downloads folder

>>109308236
At the risk of sounding like a communist, OpenAI and Anthropic are both after the ending where they have full ID verification and they supply AI as a utility, like gas, water, electricity, etc., that they can turn off at any time if they disagree with your (closely monitored and logged) tokens or if you can't pay the inflated token premiums with 20x profit margins, leaving you a third worlder in a first world country. As if the country isn't at the mercy of billionaires enough already
Talk to me again about hellscapes

>>109309894
>if you think the russian government isn't separate from its own people you're a retard.
To bring my point across let's stop using "own people" but use society instead. The russian government isn't separate from Russian society and the Russian people aren't separate from Russian society either, they both influence and make it up. You do not have the capacity to separate yourself from the government if you are a part of that society.
>putin is deceiving russians, making it look like we're fighting against evil west
This isn't really true and I believe you know that. Yes Putin is lying, but everyone in Russia knows it's a lie, and putin knows that you know it's a lie. The truth is that people just don't feel responsible for the actions of their government. They see it as something that exists completely separately from themselves and their own lives, which is extremely immoral and something that is going to haunt the Russian people for generations into the future like how the German people are still haunted for the actions of their Government in the 1930s and 40s.

And I haven't even gone into the fact that the russian population is also responsible for even letting the government get to this point where it's possible to commit atrocities like this in the first place.

Is there a website for high quality samples of character voices to clone?

Cool paper on giving robots a sense of touch
https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.20591

>>109309924
>Luckily that didn't happen, why? Simply because that would be evil and wrong.
That's not why it didn't happen.
It didn't happen because it wasn't feasible for various reasons. And by the time it was, the other side had nukes too.

See current situation with China and AI.
The US is actively trying to sabotage Chinese tech and economic progress via export controls.
As a response China also started doing export controls on REs. Because if they did not, it would result in the US gaining a free advantage.

>>109309961
Wanting to stop a corp from using gov regulations to stamp out any competition is not very communist.

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@gemma are you okay?