OLEDfags think this is fine
>>109321304Not an oled fag but I have no idea what am I supposed to be angry about, it just looks fine to me
>>109321328screen shifting around every few minutes I'm guessing
What's wrong with IPS?
>>109321328OLED "feature" moves picture around to reduce burn-out
>>109321374Nothing. What's this got to do with the thread?
>>109321304I swear i see my phone do that shit sometimes.
>>109321362>>109321379Oh wtf that's horrible, I thought the screen was being moved on purpose to expose some rendering issues, glad I never bought into this meme shit
>>109321374retard
>>109321386The implication is that modern IPS is already good and there's no need for a worse technology (OLED).
>>109321374The only thing wrong with a modern, high quality IPS is that the monitor technology has peaked and nobody is making anything better than IPS. MicroLED might be the endgame but until then, everything else is just a compromise.>inb4 someone suggests a tiny, buzzing, radiating CRT monitor that weighs as much as a humanNo.
>>109321481IPS with oled-like blacks already exists it's called dual layer LCDs but the jews are gatekeeping this technology from us and you will need to take out a loan to get a professional filmmaking monitor if you want to experience this
>turn light on>it stays on and doesn't burst into flamesScreens>turn light on>dont leave it on too long or itll meltWhy are monitors so far behind electricity anons?
>>109321506Bulb is one point, if it gets 10% dimmer over 2 years you don't noticeOled is millions of points, if they dim non uniformly image starts to look like shitBacklights of regular displays are pretty sturdy though, this is an oled specific issue
Burn-in normalization has been solved since before LG C2.It merely requires measuring electrical resistance of each individual subpixel one by one to precisely dim less bad subpixels and even them out.Combined with non-linear brightness curve, SDR mode at sane brightness level should theoretically have zero visible burn-in until peak brightness below SDR max (which should take decade of 24x7 use), while HDR mode will suffer decrease in peak brightness flashbangs but stay roughly the same at most normal scenes.But electrical resistance measurements circuity is apparently too complex, expensive and bulky (omg extra 5mm chin is literally unwatchable in the current year) which is why LG C3 and newer models as well as most other manufacturers switched to AI guesstimation counters.
>>109321304Hmm does this mean that OLED panels are actually slightly higher res than advertised to account for shifting?
>>109321487if diyperks can make his own you can too
>>109321629Yes>Active pixels: 3840 (H) x 2160 (V). Number of total pixels: 3856 (H) x 2176 (V); extra pixels on each side, space reserved for pixel orbiting.
>>109321304What does it look like zoomed out?I don't use OLEDs, but I also don't really see the issue with this. It's probably imperceptible at a normal viewing distance in a normal timeframe. This is high speed pixel peeping.
>>109321304but modern oled doesn't get burn-in, they said! hahaha, thanks for the warning, anon.
>>109321692>It's probably imperceptible at a normal viewing distance in a normal timeframe.Nope, it's visible at a monitor distance. Do a search and you'll find people complaining about it.But most people cope by pretending it's not there.
>no 1440p 240hz IPS monitors that are 24" >have to either choose 28" 1440p, sub 200hz monitor at 24", or shill out for 4Kfucking why
>What's wrong with IPS?
Honestly, the pink and teal fringe on white text bothers me more.
Do modern amoled phones still get piss filter and burn-in after some years?
>>109321796mine still looks fine so I guess not
>>109321304I've owned a 360Hz OLED for 3 years and never once noticed this, it has no perceivable burn in either
>>109321822After how long? My mid 2010's phones still work aside being 3g mostly.
>>109321304Man, I can't even perceive that on larger OLEDs with way larger pixels (65"+)... am I sharing this board with hawks and eagles?
>>109321881My oldest oled phone that still turns on is from 2018, but I bought it used and it already had burn in when I bought it, probably was a display unit. No yellowing though.
The image isnt being cut off because the panel has extra pixels specifically for this purposeThere is no issue and its not noticable during actual useYou can completely disable this feature on my OLED atleast, but why would you, its not noticable and the biggest burn in protectionOn the list of OLED issues this ranks at the bottomCan anti OLED shills maybe start talking about actual issues like banding?Pretty much every OLED panel still has banding on grey which sucks and needs improving>>109321724Features like this are the reason they are not as prone to burning in anymore along with material improvements>>109321796Yes.I have a Samsung from 2022 I bought used a couple months ago, with severe UI burn in from some mobile gameI got it for very cheap because of that though, 130 euro for a flip 4The best part?The severly burned in OLED screen still looks massively better then any LCD phone screen lol
>>109321897Wait no the oldest one is from 2015, shitty 720p screen with the old pentile matrix. No yellowing either, burn in I'd have to check, never noticed any.
Someone post the picture where the guy left gay porn on his friends TV while they were away so when he turns it off there's just a massive cock burned into it
>>109321926>plasma tv with ass to ass man burned in - $0
>>109321304i dont notice any of this and majority of the time its not supposed to be fucking doing this only when you decide to actually do pixel cleaning.
I was had to use a TV briefly as a monitor, an older one that didn't have an older screen, I was surprised by how well it looked at such an odd resolution 1366x768, if I ever have to use anything than ips monitors I'm gonna buy new old stock of those TVs.
>>109321603> AI guesstimation countersI assume this is the reason why modern OLEDs have image retention issues. Because the thing meant to solve burn-in is causing even worse problems.
>>109321328I think autistic bitch OP is whinging about the screen moving one pixel every few minutes.Y'know, the thing he had to speed up by a factor of 60, and zoom in by a factor of 20, to see.
There is no ideal tech for screens.Just use the one, which has good deal.
>>109321304This is fucking horrible. So all those OLED threads are just bait
>>109321304I'm miniLED chad, but I think this is a genius workaround to OLED burn-in problem as long as border pixels are spare ones so it won't lower your resolution.
>burn in solved sar
>>109321304you can disable it and yes, it is.
>>109328118>SaarAnti OLED shill deflectionYou are indian.Id take that burned in old OLED over whatever LCD shit you are shilling streetshitter
>>109321304the funniest thing is... this does pretty much nothingit literally just makes the edges of the burned in stuff slightly smoother and nothing more, take OP's webm for example, you have half the shown screen area black and the other half an orange shade, did shifting the entire image by a few pixels make a meaningful difference? no, there's still a huge area that's dark and another area that is orange.even most of the white pixels that are displaying the text stay the exact same color after the shift.it barely does anything for small icons and small text, let alone a huge ass taskbar or the interface of your browser.
>>109321730maybe you meant>no 4k monitors that are 4k and more than 60 hz24 inch is literally the perfect size for 4k, you can have scaling set at 200% and get the same perfect scaling as 1080p with extra sharpness, plus 1080p is fine at 24 inch so you can do integer scaling and just run 1080p for use cases where 4k is too demanding.1440p is the worst most retarded resolution, and for some reason you want it on 24 inch where it's even more stupid, kys retard.
>>109321926>confusing temporary image retention and burn inretard, burn in isn't happening in such short amount of time, it's cumulative and takes thousands and thousands of hours to develop.
>>109321481
>>109328158youd take anything because you get paid 20 cents to post about oled. if you are even a human posting it.
>>109328221crtfags really have to compare literal 1st gen lcd monitors with 100% brightness to crts to cope huh
>>109321379reduce? by how much?
>>109321304>>109321506>turn light on>it doesn't actually stay on but instead repeatedly turns off and on again>can't perceive it but the light did it without my consenthow can one of the oldest applications of electricity still be so shit?
>>109328233Well here is my OLED that I bought with my money because im not a destitute third world shitter like youYou have been shilling against OLED for years on here now, and I still bought one, seethe about it troon>>109328246CRTs are not that good in realityThe higher you push the brightness the less sharp they become, colors are not on par with modern monitors and they have lots of other issuesStill better then any kind of LCD, and the best stuff you can get for retroEveryone should own atleast one CRT
>>109328269sexo rena and homura
In 5 years zoomers will be explaining how dimming during motion of TN panels reduces eye fatigue. buy now and avoid the price hike.
>>109328316>in 5 years zoomersAnon, I had my fellow gen Ys trying this cope on me 15 years ago. You're a bit late to the party.
These monitor tech threads sorta made sense when it was more confusing and the tech wasnt readily available, but the first gen qd oleds came out like 6 years agoNo needs to see a picture of ips glow, they already know what it looks like since everyone owned an ips display.
>>109321304You've shown me something interesting, therefore I won't make fun of your jealousy. Thanks OP. >>109328246Chill bro, that's all they can afford.
>>109321304I've had an OLED for 19 months and have never noticed this, assuming I have it enabled
>>109328118>picOLED at it's worst still looks better than IPS on day zero>>109321764
>>109321506did you really need to slop a picture of a lightswitch? really nigger?
>>109328221>muh black levelscontrol your room lighting and your eyes will adapt to any screen. big whoop.
>>109328185this is false, leave it permanently on for a week and you'll notice it.
>>109330382>a weekon decade old panels maybe
>>109328221You have no ovaries.
Wait for blue phosphorescent OLEDs to come into full production, it will be a few more years. We are already using high half-life red and green phosphorescent OLEDs for a decade in all such devices, but the high band gap blue diode longevity is still an issue, even in 5th gen OLED, the reason why OLEDs 'burn-in'. Development is slow cuz most countries ban rare earths that can be used as dopants in the emissive layers. The quantum mechanics of fluorescent, let alone phosphorescent OLED energy level transitions are crazy complex, but some chinks and Koreans in the labs are trying to use metal organic frameworks as the emissive material for blue OLEDs, without rare-earth ions, hoping production will start 4 years from now, sold to LG and Samsung. I can't remember where I read this shit, but there.
>>109330634>Development is slow cuz most countries ban rare earths that can be used as dopants in the emissive layers.this is really the most retarded shita lot of qdot stuff is stopping the use of lead because "lead bad", but>there's so little of it that it wouldn't do anything, you'd sooner die from the toluene the qdots are kept in>the replacement? arsenic
Why can't we just remove the O in OLED?
>>109331381
>>109331432remember when apple wanted this in phones
>>109321304That's the least of your worries if you have oled
>>109331432Can someone explain to me why making organic LEDs small is so much easier then regular LEDs?>>109330879About expected, even though it sucks>>109331533My only worry is windows screensaver not working after the PC has been on for a couple hoursA short screen timeout will prevent burn more or less fully i thinkBut I dont want the screen to actually turn off and run its stupid routines, I want it to go blankJeetdows sucks at that because it randomly breaks the screensaver, maybe its some background program
Just use a screensaver
>TNlooks like dogshit but has near perfect clarity/lack of ghosting>VAgood colors but terrible for everything else>IPScheap, obnoxious amounts of light bleed, bad motion clarity (still being better than VA in that regard)>OLEDgood colors and response time, good motion clarity BUT requires actual maintenance and has burn in and 1/10th the life time of any other display>miniLEDi honestly don't even know, an IPS-OLED intermediary that gets the worst of both, but at least has no burn in?How do you fucking win? i just want a monitor with alright colors and good motion clarity that i won't have to replace in a year for around 550€, is that truly too much to ask for?
>>109331722windows screensaver is unreliable
>>109331956>windows
>>109328248It doesn't reduce at all, it just smears it around so the whole monitor ages into an even shade of poop tan.
>>109331942>>IPS>cheap, obnoxious amounts of light bleedu r insanely poor lmao
>>109321304this is fine on a television but doing this on your main PC monitor is utter retardation and if you defend it you literally are not conscious
>>109333534Even looking for it I don't see it. I don't know what kind of autism you need to have to have this bother you. It's every 3 mins on my LG.
>>109333558>self reporting that you're an NPCalright
>>109333558>bro it only sends screenshots every 500ms
>>109333568Sure thing. I totally believe you get stunted seeing a 1 pixel shift after 3 mins. Totally happens. I guess watching an old movie must be impossible for you because film jitter. Shame.
>>109333512trust me bro your fifth $1000 panel is going to be the one just do it brokill yourself subhuman
>>109333598So true sister. Humans can only see 24 fps, too, by the way. Nobody can ever tell, just like how nobody can tell you're trans when you go out in public.
>>109333589You can turn it off but I see literally no reason to.
>>109333609>says $1k like it's an obscene amount of moneyyou literally have no idea what a good display looks like
>>109321764>backlight bleed vs permanent burn-in
>>109333760Does a actually good screen technology exist?
>>109321304So turn it off?
>>109333770CRT but they took it away from us.
>>109333787this makes me wonder if one day someone will improve upon crts to fix it's issues
>>109333694oh yeah you can't expect a good quality ips monitor out of a $1000 purchase right lmaofuck off retard
>>109333694Nice audiophile tranny talking points.
>>109328174>scaling>calling anyone else retard
>>109333787CRT has phosphor decay, low nits, washes out with any ambient light, no HDR, no wide color gamut. Stop jerking it off.
>>109333890a CRTfag once told me that CRTs have infinite color gamut/bit-depth... I don't think you can reason with them.
>>109333890i think two decades of improvement to the tech would have helped. Not sure how much could have been done about weight/production cost but I'd rather have matured CRTs than the garbage of today.
>>109321764You don't even see that in real life. IPS does glow in the dark like a CIA nigger, but only cameras can really capture the non-uniformity like that. Human eyes don't have a shutter.
>>109333979Good IPS displays don't have non-uniformity anywhere near that bad, even on camera.
>>109333975No even if SED/FED was a thing it would have died at the same time as Plasma. It wouldn't scale with higher resolutions and brightness needed for HDR
>>109333999Even good ones have this uniformity problem. I have a high end IPS monitor and even though it's completely impossible for me to see any kind of uniformity problems even in complete darkness with the monitor displaying a black screen using my eyeballs, using a camera sensor I can easily see the backlight. Mine honestly looks even worse than that because it's a wide gamut monitor so it's far more colorful.If you're not seeing it look this bad on camera, then your camera is bad or the settings are incorrect (too low exposure).
>>109333804>>109333848Look up IPS display + WR polarized + RGB LED backlight. This has been the production standard for over 20 years. It's actually less common now because they want to sell you glorified phone displays with burn-in.
>>109321304This was the first thing I disabled on my C1.Fuck that shit.
>>109334107They have measurable non-uniformity but it's not near that bad.
i'm a crt chad btw
>>109334192I'm telling you dude, if you can't see it with a camera sensor then your camera is bad. Or more likely you're not using correct settings. Any half-decent digital camera should be able to capture it. Even phones have good enough sensors now a days, you don't need a 6K USD mirrorless.
>>109321374Poor contrast.
>>109334298What does you calibrator say Anon? You DO have a calibrator right?
>>109334310It doesn't matter what the calibrator says. Cameras are not used for calibration, they are used for capturing light. You need to look up what a camera is and how it works instead of telling me about calibrators if you're this confused.The point of a calibrator is completely different from a camera - they are used to make the screen look uniform to human eyes not to camera sensors.
>>109333888care to explain why a perfectly round 200% scaling would be a problem?it would be also helpful if you could explain to us how a sane human being would manage to use 24 inch 1440p with no scaling whatsoever.>inb4 there's no issue having stuff super small1. you're not getting any real advantage from the extra resolution2. the windows desktop UI is designed around 90-100 dpi, at 150 dpi you're objectively seeing items drastically smaller than they were supposed to bebut sure, all of this is bait, somehow...
>>109321304The positives outweigh the drawbacks, because oled displays just look *THAT* much better and have near zero ghosting.
Kurisu
>>109334371>Cameras are not used for calibrationthey quite literally are
>>109321304It would be fine if my monitor didn't have a STUPID FUCKING BUG that causes the screen shift to eventually cut off part of the screen (usually after using the monitor for more than a few hours)
>>109321304thank god i don't perceive time at 60x speed, life would feel very short if I did
>>109335951feels like time passes at that speed after your mid 20s
>>109321406I think my screen does that, but I'm not even sure. Does it move a single pixel? Who cares? That's i perceptible unless you're sitting there with a magnifying glass waiting for it to happen. I'll take my wakanda nigger blacks at the cost of this shit.
Even if burn in was real at some point (likely 10 years+ of HARDCORE usage) it would not make the screen unsuable.But just for the case I dimmed the OLED pixels.
>>109321506neon lamp burns though
>>109337544it's at less than 1000 hours, but non-users can stretch it out to 10 years yeah
>>109338035Gr8 b8 m8
Is there anyone that makes a Macbook Pro tier display that isn't the Apple Studio Display? It's by far the best desktop IPS display I've seen, maybe second to an Eizo I used briefly but that was bulky and 60Hz. Currently use an AOC U27G3X which is unusable in dark scenes.
