A book whose pages contain a dot sequence representing bits is the ultimate archival method. Store up to 1 megabytes of uncompressed digital data in a Letter paper format if using 600 DPI, and much more for an A4. Can be printed with any printer at home. It's trivial to decode and read, even a future cavema could fo it, if given an ascii or utf8 table. A 500 page book stores around a gigabyte of data. Not bad for a post-collapse archival preservation storage medium.
>>109336624Wouldn't a scroll be easier to photograph/scan?
OP's pic is part of page one out of 5 pages that encodes this video
>>109336633If the world collapses, it's gonna be extremwly difficult to climb back to current technology (of scanners and cameras) due to all easily acceaibke natural resources like oil wells, iron or copper being exhaused.
>>1093366248*1024**2/600 14.000 inches or sqrt of that 118"your 1 MB page seems to have more like a 118" corner length to mein addition the whole idea is beyond retarded in terms of material science/chemistry/physics etc.
>>109336663600*600=360000 bits per square inch.1MB/600^2=2,91271111 square inches/megabyte
>>109336703you're dumb.Read up on the difference between byte and bit.
>>109336647WTF did I just watch?
>>109336624>Can be printed with any printer at home.Printer ink fades. Paper rots away on its own unless you get special low acid paper.
>>109336940laminate the paper?
>>109336647The best use of AI.
>>109336976That only helps so much. I'm not sure what degrades the ink apart from light. But paper that isn't low acid degrades on its own without air having to get to it - the acid in the paper eats it.
>>109336624Does this include error correction? If not, a mote of dust on the page will cause a bit flip.
>>109336624No error correction makes reading it a nightmare, and impossible if it's damaged. Also paper and ink degrade and are damaged easily, not to mention the speed limit and risk of dealing with pages.Here's another idea, why not embed it into plastic instead of paper, and add some form of error correction. You could also make it flat, so a machine could read it quickly. Oh wait, that's called a CD.
>>109336991So get good low acid paper and good laminate. Too much hassle and expense, might as well just keep it on a archival dvd or tape drive.
>>109336624Have you tested this with even just a single page? Printers SUCK. I guess you can't get much more than 100dpi out of a normal household printer, even if it says it can do 1200 or whatever.Then most printers I know can't reliably print perfectly, they have dried lines, sputter and other quality problems
>>109336821Gossip Goblin
>>109336647Post with audio pls
/g/ cant even have a discussion about ink and paper without resorting to doomnigger, worst case assumption, bad faith posting. there are texts preserved from 2000 years ago. if you use acid free paper and carbon ink, youre talking multiple thousands of years of data preservation.
>>109337024>might as well just keep it on a archival dvd or tape drive.Exactly. Just because you can see the dots on a page and hand decode a few bytes with a magnifying glass doesn't mean anyone in the future is going to be able to decode and watch a 3-second video if they don't have a high resolution scanner and software to decode the dots.If you truly want future cavemen to be able to access your data after the tech apocalypse, stick to text and simple images, and laser etch it into stone tablets, or press it into clay and then bake it.
>>109337081What specific texts are have been preserved that are near 2000 years old?
>>109337108* on paper.
>>109337108Dead Sea Scrolls are close to that.
>>109337108nah you gotta have the monastery’s scribes copying this shit to keep it going for 2000 years
>>109337114Ah yes ancient jewdaism. >>109337118Exactly my thoughts.
>>109336624And still you wouldn't read them.
>>109336633>/g/ has reinvented tapejust bring on the nukes already
>>109337127I'm not judging the content one way or another, especially since I haven't read them. But the original scrolls were preserved from when the Roman Empire was alive up to modern times when they were found, without being recopied in between.
>>109337108celtic psalter, missal of silos, admin papers from china and eygpt, the diary of merer is some 4500 years old, dead sea scrolls mentioned above, plenty more examples of you know how to do an internet search
>>109337118nice try, these are original texts that were preserved. /g/ is literally incapable of posting in good faith.
>>109337114They're not paper.
>>109337258>akshually its papyrus (the word paper is derived from)acid free paper can last multiple centuries. happy now? just kys pilpul faggot.
>>109337189>celtic psalter"Many bindings for the book have been made over time as the original has long since been lost. The current binding was created by Douglas Cockerell in 1914 in Celtic style."I guess we just have to take the historians word on just how old they really are.
>>109337189>celtic psalterOnly 1000 years old and also not paper.>missal of silosOnly 1000 years old.>admin papers from chinaOnly fragments survive.>and eygptNot paper.>the diary of mererNot paper.>dead sea scrollsNot paper.>>109337279Paper and papyrus are not the same thing. Paper is made from pulp. Papyrus is made from flattened fibers and is much thicker and a lot more durable.
>>109336624If you use color you can improve the digit order quite a bit, allowing significantly more information to be stored on the paper. Regardless, this is completely irrelevant—AI replaces all other sources and media for information.
>>109337280binding retard, binding. the papers are original.
>>109337293literally just kys doomnigger faggot, youre not worth arguing with.
>>109337318Good printing on papyrus or parchment, retard.
>>109337293>these texts werent even meant to be preserved and survived a thousand years>surely we cant do any better with modern materials and intentional storage
>>109337327Good luck*
>>109337328They were meant to be preserved. Texts were deliberately transferred from papyrus to parchment for this reason.
>>109337340random admin texts from egypt were most certainly not meant to be found 4500 years later. this is a nonsensical pilpul argument because you dont want to admit we could store data for thousands of years. just jump off a bridge, please you are a worthless autist.
>>109337328Not if we push the density too high or use faggoted materials like plastic, thin paper, or biodegradable ink. Larger details are more resilient, as are materials ancient people used like papyrus, stone, or concrete made with the Roman recipe.
>>109337189the celtic psalter was made with vellum, not paper. Vellum is animal skin.
>>109337347Okay, just start up a factory that makes papyrus and then design a printer that can print on it.
