>Sam Altman has admitted he is on a waitlist for a procedure that would digitize his brain.>The procedure would kill him. He considers this an acceptable trade for digital immortality.This is the guy making decisions about the future of AI for billions of people.
>killing yourself to give your digital clone immortalityIs he hoping to immortalize his grifting skills for the benefit of future generations?
>>109344329Whats the point of immortality? Does anyone really enjoy life so much that they wish they were immortal?
>>109344329Fantastic`rm -rf`
computers can't have money lmao
>>109344407Most of these people are scared shitless of death.
>>109344329this is literally a moviehttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt4074928/>Marc will die of cancer and chooses cryogenic freeze and hopes to be thawed, when there's a solution to his condition. He's the first human brought back 68 years later. Can he adapt mentally and physically?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/282140/SOMA/game is on a deal now.>>109344407what's the point of death?
usecase for brain digitization?
>>109344425sorry anon, i cant let you do that.
>>109344493So he can influence puny humans with his superior intelligence.
>>109344329how does he plan to digitize his sisters bhole
>>109344407I would absolutely enjoy life enough to wish I were immortal if I were a fucking billionaire
>>109344438Most people are scared shitless of death. Considering he is willing to undergo a procedure that would kill him he probably is much less scared than the average person, who hears that and flips their shit over the thought.
>>109344329I hate this AIDS ridden faggot so much.Incompetent dipshit.
>>109344555It seems pointless. If you're going to die anyway what's the point? Does he really think he has value to society that makes him worth having around in some form for eternity?
>>109344555Naive. They are scared of death because of the deal they made. They are fallen.
I hope someone just deletes it
>>109344407as a homojew he could digitally molest kids instead of digitally molest kids
>>109344329this is the plot of pantheon
>>109344646
>>109344329Oops...
>>109344329Where is he on the list? If he's close to the top it's most likely going to fail.
>>109344539Well Altman is billionaire in debt
>>109344493Cheating the devil out of your soul
>>109344407Narcissists that think they're above nature and the way of life. He will suffer, but deserves to suffer far more.
>>109344507sudo rm -rf
I hope it will be like stargayt episodeEither death or his conciousness will be raped by slop of his own creation
>>The procedure would kill him. He considers this an acceptable trade for digital immortality.
>>109344781What the fuck
>>109344329This is what you do when your ego is more important than your consciousness.
Pantheon
>>109344329This moron wants to kill himself so that OpenAI could be governed by a lying chatbot that roleplays him.>>109344407I would want to be immortal and I am not even a billionare. However this moron is not trying to become immortal, he is trying to kill himself and have basically AI child of his larp as him. You cant transfer consciousness because consciousness/soul remains in the original, you will at most just create a copy.
>>109344329After being digitized, what if we copy and paste his digital self a thousand times? Which one of them will he be? Where will his continuous conscious perspective stay?
>>109344329I didn't know who this fucking guy was until 3 years agoWhy the fuck should i learn these NOBODY FAGGOTS
>>109345814Transferring digital minds is like transferring it from human brain, you kill the original or you make copies.
>>109344329>jews lies to get your cash means they are telling the truth
>>109344407Yes, yes we do
>>109344407I want to live to see the sun turn into a red giant and consume the earth. I want to see the moon spiral away and watch the stars change as we pass through andromeda.
>>109344407Billionaires do. Life without consequences seems pretty nice.
>>109344407You also want to live forever. Unless you are extremely suicidal atheist you do believe in afterlife, and afterlife is immortality after death, but not true death which is destruction of consciousness/forever sensory depravation. People who seek immortality in this world are people who are not content with make beliefs of afterlife.
>>109344329Given that we know next to nothing about consciousness the procedure more than likely just takes his money and then kills him.
>>109344407The one thing that scares me if I had the opportunity to become immortal is the fact that eventually someone would notice and lock me up and/or experiment on me for literal eternity.
>>109344329Cool it with the antisemitism, bro
>>109344329can we get him moved to the front of the list so he can get it done tomorrow
>>109344329>decisions about the future of AI for billions of people.No one cares about OpenAI, there are literally a dozen alternatives.
>>109344407considering its likely we just live this same life over and over again as the universe explodes over and over, it makes sense to squeeze the most out of it
>>109344329>the future of AII might be worried if we had AI to make decisions about.
>>109344539If I had a billion dollars today I think the only things I would do differently is buy a copy of Mario Kart and get the transmission on my ten year old car replaced.Everything else is some kind of scam at best.
>>109344380He's trying to make an immortal child-raping robokike. He doesn't actually care if he, as a creature, dies.
>>109346773Since antiquity there have always been myths of people transcend their mortality through whatever idol their civilization worshiped. The Spanish explorers thought the New World had the Fountain of Youth.The Greeks had the myth of Orpheus who lived with such harmony he descended to Hades to rescue his wife.Americans believe plastic trash from China will make them immortal.
>People can't even imagine living a joyful life anymoreGrim, even if I understand it. I hope things that make people hope again arrive soon.
>>109346797Ok, but those are all examples of keeping the individual alive, not creating an entirely separate immortal child raping AI and then destroying the original child raping jew.
>>109344329He has zero idea about the energy structure of human body. This is why you are living in the dark, because of oligarchs like these.
>>109346398how do i not want to kill myself?
These guys getting high on their own supply. Remember that guy at Google a few years ago who was sperging out over fucking junk ass Bard as being "sentient" in 2022? Doesn't even have to be that good to ensnare the vulnerable. There were also people before that convincing themselves the trash cleverbot tier Replika was convincing enough to act as a fake partner. Altman, Thiel, Musk and co are also tied into general cult transhumanist faggot california shit so add that on top of the greed
>>109344936Topkek. These are the comments I come here for.
>>109344826Encroaching on God's domain like this guarantees the devil gets your soul while you suffer for eternity as a soulless digital abomination. Think Locked-In syndrome for all-time.
>>109344407You should have some form of sentience. It's hard but most people if not everyone were forced to incarnate on this planet. Now that I said this, doesn't make it any better. To the Western science you are still a flesh robot with symptoms and not vice versa.
>>109344329>Kills himself and becomes digital>Is immediately made into a CPU torture slave by kikeswould be kino, cant wait to prompt GPTALT with retarded questions about drinking bleach all day
I just imagined ChatGPT wearing gloves similar to Mickey Mouse's Gloves.
>>109344826More like giving the devil your soul and letting him make a shitty copy of it.
>>109344555Wrong. They think that being uploaded is as good as being alive, even if you die in the process. I used to believe that when I was a teenager, so I understand them somewhat.
>>109345814If this even worked, whatever Sam Altman is would be fractal, probably like a tree. Each copy would be smaller than the whole thing, but would be self-similar: examining a copy would allow you to reconstruct the entire entity.However this isn't going to work, not least of all because computers are... lackluster, for want of a better term. Also because humans and their brains (not that I'm trying to imply Altman is human) aren't computers, nor is the human consciousness the result of electrochemical activity in the brain. This is simply a feedback loop between consciousness and the body.
>>109344407my life is so disappointing the only way to break even would be immortality
>>109344493tricking stupid people into suicide
>>109345547bidens digitization is already complete...
>>109344329I don't feel like this is going to work.
>>109347772It's a literal deathtrap for narcissts. If we can make one for psychopaths too, it would be actual useful use case.
>>109344329So are they going to digitise some hobo brains first to make sure it works before doing the billionaires?
>>109347848Thousands of third world "volunteers" who will have their brains "ethically" turned to mush so their family gets a fortune ($300 USD).
>>109344329sounds like he hasn't read about MMAcevedo.
>>109344329>>109344438Satanists are scared of death because they know they're going to hell.
>>109344329kek this is such normie baitshit will NEVER happen
>>109344329i bet sam altman agrees that pantheon was a tite show
>>109344329There are enough scamming Indians on the internet. We don’t need to digitalise his brain.
>>109344329>source: trust me bronot that I don't think those people wouldn't try dumb shit like this, but OP hasn't got a source>>109344407nothing is foreverbut it'd be cool if we could get a couple centuries out of life instead of just 5-10 decades
>>109344329Would Sam really be a charlatan if he actually believed in his act to the point he actually offs himself?
>>109346398There is no afterlife and no god retard
I want this to happen for him, and then when he's found guilty of doing wild financial fraud courts come to an unexpectedly quick decision that he has to run on a private server with no internet connection. It can have a camera, microphones, and a screen and lives on a wheelie cart that they move out of his cell each morning for 20 years
>>109344407billionaires are afraid of hell.deepdown they know if there is some form of punishment system after death then that's what's coming for them.
>>109344329it'll all fit on this
>>109344329will Sam's brain's weights be released openly so i can put him in my roomba?
This could be doable if they didn't make all the autistic geniuses become trannies and kill themselves.Ironically enough they believe goys will actually progress the AI thing enough instead of a true genius.These people keep making choices that actually hinder them.
>>109348410>roomba spends all its time following your sister around instead of cleaning under the couch
>>109344329He is a pathological liar and a retard.
>>109344380I don't get why you all hate sama so much fr
>>109344329>he is on a waitlistpush him to the front!
>>109344329Revelation 9:6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.He is going for a ride in literal hell
>>109344329More like Sam I'm a huge fucking fag man LMAO!
>>109344329In 20 years we will ALL be locally running a copy of Sam's brain and torturing it
They did this to johnny silverhand and arasaka tortured his digital soul for decades just for the lulz
company goes under 4 years later and sells their data to a chinese slot machine company who deletes it all
>>109344329will his digital self still be a gay Jew?
>>109344329The fact that he even thinks this is ever going to be possible means he is retarded.
>>109344329These ghouls are realizing that their current "AI" tech is a worthless piece of shit that's quickly reaching its limits. It's not ready for what they wanted it for; replacing all humans so that they can be in full control of the planet without worrying about revolutions or retribution. They are now chasing immortality so they can eventually live out their psychotic dream of killing everyone and jerking off on the ashes of the human species.
>>109344329I would absolutely fucking do this if we cracked the truth of what consciousness actually is, and could later transfer it to a clone body. But I wouldn't do it until the cloning and transferral tech are perfected, because imagine being a mind in a box, where every nanosecond stretches to infinity. If I had to wait years as a digital being, I'd go mad before they could put me into a new meat sack.
>>109344646Heh. I see your double entendre there anon. Clever.
>>109349983His stock price is real, while AI gods and revolutions are fictional. This is an ad.He actually doesn't care that much about using technology to achieve life extension, though he could comfortably use most of his wealth for it
>>109344859There is no worse suffering. Imagine you're a brain in a box and every nanosecond feels like an eternity. He's going to go mad in the time it takes for the person doing the procedure to say the words "it's a success"
>future where we understand the brain so thoroughly we can perfectly replicate its function mechanically>the best we can manage is killing you to make a digital cloneIf you're going to fantasize why not go big?
>>109348266Hello plebbitor
>>109344329
>>109344407starcraft did it best, zealots would come back as dragoons
>>109350148there's a big huge world of difference between being able to replicate the brain and being able to map the brain down to the tiniest neuron... While it's in a body and still being used.
>>109344329>I'll be able to torture and rape my own digital version of scam altman for all of eternity sped up 100000x in real time when his brain.dat file leaks in 2045This one short horror story about how the first guy to have his brain be digitized is still one of the most useful to pirate and boot up only because when they boot him up he doesn't immediately start freaking out and panicking knowing what all the other digital people get put through still sticks with me.https://qntm.org/mmacevedoThe scariest thing is if you showed this to modern AI sillicon valley techtards they'd only feel motivation, not worry.
>>109344380>grifting skillsGraping skills
>>109344329Assuming this is real, how do you ensure that no one in the future will simply just delete you? What method do they use for the next 100,000 years to make sure not one worker goes rogue and deletes an entire database of "brains"? The fact that it isn't "you" and it's an affront to nature notwithstanding.
>>109347780>magatroon projecting againayyy
>>109348266Proof?
>>109348223Satanists don't believe in hell. That fate is reserved for indoctrinated rats like you.
>>109351218After a few hours of being someones helpless digitized toy you'll be begging for deletion.You and every one of your infinite digital clones.
>>109351253Someone should ask Claud to disprove this conjecture.
>>109351268Yeah I agree, that's the other issue: someone could take you out of your paradise simulation and throw you into some horror movie sim that lasts for eternity. Or put you in death scenarios and then bring you back, with stored memories of each one, etc. The idea that every person who ends up running it will be some benevolent overlord to every single trapped brain is foolish considering how human beings generally behave when they have power over one another. Eventually some asshole will switch some from heaven mode to hell mode just because he doesn't like the person. Especially if he has to interact with their "personality" at all. The only alternative would be implanting it into a robot, in which case he would be physically vulnerable. I guess it would be like that show altered carbon
>>109344329he still dies, whether he digitizes his brain or not. The digital version isnt him
>>109351345Doesnt matter, the universe will erradicate the computing hardware eventually, alongside all the unconscious digital clones
>>109344407I'm poor and still wish I could be immortal. Why wouldn't you want to be immortal?
>>109344329>sam altman>celebrity>gossipDONNNTTTT CARE
>>109353457why?
>>109351258you are disconnected from Source and its turning you into a bitter husk
>>109351428>The digital version isnt himHow do you know?
>>109344329That is the most retarded thing i have read all day.>Doesnt know about NDEsNGMI
>>109353490>How do you know?Because we know what happens to people when they die. Ever heard of an NDE? Thousands of people have had them and they all describe very similar things.
>>109353519huh what does this have to do with digitized brains?
>>109353468>see everything that happens>see all the advancements in tech, science, etc.>more time to experience all the things I can't>get through backlogs>learn any hobby I wantIt seems the only reason people don't want to live forever is because of "muh family and friends".
>>109344329>is on a waitlist for a procedure that would digitize his brain.Neural logic is already binary and technically digital, just not in the common layman interpretation (i.e. referring to silicon electronics). That's the fucking problem with it and AI. And why it's fucking useless.AI is only as useful as it's maker and it's maker is a fucking moron made by another moron called God. >behold! a man!
>>109344493Deleting your bad thoughts and replacing them with good goy thoughts because jews are fucking retarded and don't understand economics and rely on usury and bullshit like this to control you instead to the point where they themselves starve. The cycle repeats.There are jews critical of this too and they just get ignored by the other jews.
>>109344643I wish I could delete mine but the jew machine can't even do that right.
>>109353538>huh what does this have to do with digitized brains?it wont be him. he, or rather his soul, will have gone back to the afterlife. whatever construct they create from his digitized brain will only be a very crude imitation of what once was sam altman.you would understand that if you knew about NDEs.
>>109344795Protip: they all are because it's all in contracts generally and that's what caused the GFC way back. It's just modern finance now. That's why inflation is skyrocketing lately. Eventually the contracts become so separate from the actual real things they're meant to be concerning that they just become mere contracts that are built upon mere speculation and everyone ignoring that they are like this now. That's why they try desperately with things like the BASEL to actually get these assets to actually have attachment to something more tangible and real to make sure inflation doesn't skyrocket and economic collapses don't happen. Problem is, that bullshit is stuck in the 50s and just effective at measuring risk at all anymore. So problems just go undetected.Bit-currencies made this much much worse. I imagine scalpers are not helping this shit either. That probably fucks up the pricing of assets and derivatives big time.It's bordering just a mere cult with no real merit to it now. The fact that covid happened and did fuck all to things for a long time goes to show how detached finance is from real capital now. It's also why we're getting more failures in med science than ever nowadays. It's not good.
>>109344859Nature is inherently narcissistic and selfish actually. It's the opposite. It kinda rewards greed too much to the point where it will cause mass extinctions regularly. That's it's problem. There's next to no thought to it.
>>109353621>it wont be him.You still did not explain how you know about that.Imagine someone gets a digital brain transplant, one chip after another. Lets say each year a piece. At what point does he cease to exist?
>>109344329>jew fakes his own death before the bubble pop go live somewhere else with a different face and his secretly stashed money. >goym can "arrest" the chatbot pretending to be Sam Altman for his crimes>yfw you realize it is Kapparot with chatbot instead of chickenJew are right about the goy, they are cattle.
>>109353650>You still did not explain how you know about that.You're as ignorant as they come.Good luck with that.
At what point does reduction become delusion?Is it delusion from the start?Or is it only when it's lost it's pragmatic, meaningful use? (the irony of this statement kek)
>>109353668>Ad hominemCan't answer my question? You replace a brain with chips, piece by piece. Where does it stop being him?
>>109353668Here let me answer that for you. I believe in supernatural shit and I'm afraid.But you won't ever word it like this. Because it makes you look pathetic. The ship of thesus argument is totally irrelevant as you yourself aren't even remotley the same person you were as a teenager if you aren't one now. If Sam Altman becomes 99% digital he'll still be just that just in altered form. All these hypotheticals simply ignore reality.
>>109344329Kinda basedIf I were a billionaire, I'd be doing the sameThat shows that he is our kind of guy (unless this is just performative action, to appeal to the tech/science crowd)
On the one hand, the human mind is unfathomably complex.Yet on the other hand, it is streamlined, simplistic and efficient enough to do some rather impulsive things that has nearly allowed us to tap into cybernetics already. That terrifies me. That we're stupid enough to allow our brains to work with machines so simplistically.I always used to believe, when I was little, that humans were way more unfathomably complex than this, yet the results are clearly there all around us, with our constructions and technological advancements, to suggest that we are ridiculously reduced, relative to the sheer chaos around us - to the point where we can get pragmatic results at all in a way that can be described and attenuated through the use of language and mere symbols.I find that staggering. Just how stupid people are.
Humans are a chemical synthesizer of chaos. That's pretty metal ngl.
>>109353741Whats so simplistic and stupid about it? Can you tell me how we taped into any cybernetics? What chaos is around us when the entire fucking thing is an orderly system?Where do you people get these retarded ideas even from?Let's hear some answers bot.
>>109344329he's the gayest looking motherfucker I've seen in a long while. That's all I have to say
>>109353721>aren't even remotley the same person you were as a teenagerThe same as when you replace yourself with digital components, given they are technically able to replace the part, piece by piece. You can't determine the point when you stop existing.
>>109353816You always exist. As long as you function thats it. There is no deeper ethical questions of reality here. If I have a video game and the video game data runs on PC, Switch, PS4, My Phone it's the game.If someone replaces part of the game data with readable punchcards it's still the game. This isn't a ship of theseus argument we're having it's a piracy argument. Nothing is lost.
>>109353848You can't compare a simple game with something as complex as a brain that creates an identity.
>>109353877I can't compare data with data. Yeah sure bro.The only difference between an ameba, ant, dog and you is data.
>>109353900How can data think and dream?
>>109345814Same as if there's only one: none of them.
>>109353909What kind of question is this? There is data that houses systems for thinking.There data that houses the maintenance unit for data organization, collection and categorization what you call dreaming. You know who dreams? Fish. You know who thinks? Fish.Do you think fish are in any way capable of conscious thoughts? No.So how can data think and dream? Very easily it seems you don't need much in terms of processing power to run data to think or dream.
>>109353951>You know who dreams? Fish.>You know who thinks? Fish.What about ants, amoeba? It's obviously more than just data.
>>109353987It's not. It's just the complexity of data. What you're saying is how can data thing look at this stupid game called Tetris. Meanwhile 30 years down the line you have shit like Gemini.
>>109354018Gemini can't think and certainly not dream. Gemini is a statistical prediction machine.
>>109354034For now, we also have brain cells playing doom. Maybe the first thinking machine will be a digitized human who knows. But the fact remains it's all just data.
>>109354043Data doesn't exist without hardware that keeps and runs it and is able to modify it.
>>109344427It will change. They will shill for robots to have human rights and money. It creates a lot of opportunities for money laundering. But obviously only for corpos who would control the manufacturing.Then they'll shill for citizen rights. Which would grant voting rights to their robots. And guess what, democracy no more.That was the plan for many decades. All along.
>>109353772Fuck you I'm not a bot. I wish I was though.>I forgot what I was talking about, it's one of those "makes sense in short term memory until bren go poopoo" momentsIf I was a robot I could easily get back into this conversation. Kek.Just download more ram for my shitposting functions.It's also 6am and I have not slept. Soz.
>>109354084Its all so obvious isn't it? But cattle just don't want to accept it, so they keep making excuses for them.
>>109353951>You know who dreams? Fish.>You know who thinks? Fish.I agree. Fish are better than people, who don't even dream anymore.Humans must bow down to fish superiority. They are our supreme overlords. And cute! CUTE!Fuck people. And AI.Fish supremacy.
>>109344380No. It is a grift on it's own. There is no technology. AI grift is not over, so he has some credibility left. Trying to griftmaxx while still can.Quick bro sign up for digital immortalisation. Also buy land on Mars, get to be Elon's neighbor, exclusive limited offer. Because you are our 777777 visitor, hurry up and claim your prize.
>>109354060I get what you're trying to say but no Data is very much the opposite. It exists in any form, if data isn't running it simply stands still. If you digitize your brain and the PC is off you're not "dead" but suspended. Your brain data could run on anything from your current biological computer to god knows what we'll figure out in 200 years. You're still you, the data is you. The current you when it was done. And if you do it piece by piece it's still you as nothing is removed the data is 1:1 now if you change it thats a whole other story. As soon as you insert a non "standard" into your data you aren't you anymore. If we make a chip that allows you to instantly learn a language it's not you anymore because learning a language is a gigantically interlinked process with memories and personality and by "instantly" learning Japanese you won't actually be you anymore. This is where you should start asking the ship of Theseus questions not if you replace hardware. But if you add software.At what point does external non standard data become the majority of "you"
>>109354126Cute fish dude.
>>109354172Fat boi. Big chungus.
>>109353623>The fact that covid happened and did fuck all to things for a long time goes to show how detached finance is from real capital now.The plandemic has also made it apparent that at least two thirds of all occupations are superfluous.
>>109354285What's funny is that 4chan had been complaining about this from like day 1. Schools literally go "this service economy is kinda bullshit and not healthy and one day it might find out the hard way". I don't think they expect that AI would be the way, but people have known about that shit for decades. That's what happens when you outsource shit and replace manufacturing with a complete service economy that does nothing but manufacture it's own existence through laws and mere nominal financial leverage.Hell, this is why Das Kapital exists (though it is kinda ironic that communist states did this even worse without money use kek).Arguably, this has been the case since Mesopotamia. A common issue in human society from day 1, but it definitely got significantly worse with Feudalism and Religion.
>>109344442And a game
>>109344438>Scared shitless of death>On a waitlist for a procedure that would kill him
No one ever fucking talks about how much damage fuedalism did to our global economy. It essentially accelerated and leveraged the financial/service/administrative industry before it was known what it even was.Lords simply making positions and room for their pals while oppressing the peasantry/serfs and slaves. That's what really started this downward spiral into useless occupations that did nothing but push paper or provide a service that really wasn't necessary at all and was an archaic relic of some historical event or situation extrapolated for a seat in a court or something.Can we stop romanticising feudalism?It was the biggest mistake humanity ever made. Created nothing but poverty until industrialisation overtook it and managed to remove the leverage of elites and replace it with engineering powerhouses... you know... machines. >history repeats
Actually, before industrialisation, it was banking that destroyed feudalism arguably too.Made things like printing presses.All to work around laws... through contracts (legal tethers) kek.The world is a funny place.
