Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

i cant help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2 in the OP.

>>109346738
um, this is the Poorfag Computers Building General

>the case I want is not available on Amazon
>the AIO I want is
Should I buy just the AIO and let it stay in the box for months until the case I want gets restocked?

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>>109346876
Buy the case somewhere else.

>>109346889
It's out of stock everywhere, I don't live in the USA.

>>109346708
How much of a virgin faggot retard do you have to be to put those anime dolls inside your PC fucking up the airflow and any chances of a woman ever getting interested in you? Wake the fuck up, manchild!

>>109346940
anime site

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>>109346928
Pick a different case.

>>109346940
They do jack shit for the airflow and will earn you browney ponts if you're picking up chicks at a convention.

>>109346945
Did you ever see Moot lusting over anime dolls like a fucking retard? Did you, you newfaggot manchild? You're 20 years too soon to lecture me on the history of this sure, you fucking animal.

When I connect my new monitor to my PC should I unplug my PC from the electricity first or is that not an issue?

>>109346950
*better

>>109346969
Not an issue.
You should power on the monitor first before booting up the PC.

>>109346565
I was also wondering why there isn't much synergy between Sony Electronics & Sony Interactive Entertainment.
I think there's more non-gaming TV snobs who are willing to pay more for Bravia TVs vs. gamers who buy high-end TVs.
Gamers seem to be more price-sensitive, you see people recommending LG 42" C- series TVs for value OLED gaming.

>>109346610
>just set your graphical settings to sub-console settings
There is literally zero benefit to 4k if you have to make the game look like complete fucking shit to hit playable framerates. 4k will NEVER be anything but a trash meme until tech advances enough to not have to make the worst possible sacrifices. Just about any card can do 1440p just fine without having to shut off settings and make everything look like a console title.

Fastest way to sell a used 5090 besides egay or fagbook marketplace?

>>109346928
just re-use the case you have been using for 13 years

>>109347123
Craigslist.

>>109346708
how to get cheap(er) DDR5 RAM

Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory is the one i picked and it just fucked RAPED my wallet

>>109346940
>caring what women think
shut up fag

>>109347228
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/mohdhm/saved/#view=NKfzFT

here is my custom build. you guys recommend me to change anything?

>>109347228
>how to get cheap(er) DDR5 RAM
You don't.

Is the ktc monitor listed any good? I heard it had flickering issues.

>>109347228
get chink branded ram like kingbank etc.

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HUB confirms 14th gen with DDR4 XMP is on par with the 5800X3D
(contradicting their earlier tests where they put it on par with non-X3D zen 3)

what will /pcbg/ do with this information? (nothing, no one cares, you have a bigger e-peen if the box says X3D)

>>109347290
>>what will /pcbg/ do with this information?
Hopefully get a job so they can afford something at the top of the graph.

>>109347290
>(contradicting their earlier tests where they put it on par with non-X3D zen 3)
even 12th gen is quicker than zen3, nobody with more than 3 brain cells would think that's a valid result

>>109347295
lmao the only right response
>>109347298
you would be surprised

>>109347290
hmmmmm. i dont see a 9950x3d2 on that chart.

>>109347290
5800x3d was competing against 12th and 13th gen
both of those were dumpster fires at the time
one needed a new os install and the other degraded
you could also slot the cpu in any am4 board at the time and get those gains instead of having to buy a new 200+ board just to run intels latest garbage
the 5800x3d still mogs
it runs cooler
uses less power
is much simpler
doesn't need a special snow flake os and motherboard
you may now cope, seethe and dilate estrogen trannies

>>109347316
>5800x3d was competing against 12th and 13th gen
stop pretending to be retarded
i can buy one in stores right now for $350
or i can get a 14600KF for $250 and a used Z690/Z790 for $100

>>109347316
zen3 has less ipc than intel's e-cores lmao

>>109347338
why does intel not use their p cores in games then? why are they using their estrogen cores? >>109347290 do p cores degrade if you use them or what?
>>109347334
first release was mid 2022

>>109347334
>i can buy new
>i can then buy used
hahahaha

>>109347345
no one is talking about the first release, including HUB
the video was uploaded 18 hours ago
>>109347354
yeah buying a used board is fine
MSI PRO Z690-A is $100 on ebay right now
it's better than your scrappy B350

>>109347369
>no one is talking about the first release, including HUB
>HUB confirms 14th gen with DDR4 XMP is on par with the 5800X3D
>(contradicting their earlier tests where they put it on par with non-X3D zen 3)

>>109347374
not sure what you're not getting here

>>109347378
sounds like a you problem

>>109346876
what case?

>>109347241
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/mohdhm/saved/#view=NKfzFT
We can't view the parts list from that link, you need to share a publicly visible PC build (I'm going to bed though)..

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>>109346708
Should I buy the Gigabyte X870M mobo or should I wait for the next gen releases that will come presumably shortly after the consumer Zen6 CPUs? What's the probability that we're going to see new mATX X-series boards?
Maybe the X970 (or whatever its name is going to be) wont even have any significant improvements over X870 and I'm wasting time missing good deals.

>>109347526
>Maybe the X970 (or whatever its name is going to be) wont even have any significant improvements over X870
That's my guess as well wrt features.
But the 900 chipset AM5 boards might have safer power delivery designs.
You know something is up when AMD is sending out replacement CPUs to affected users, & it's killing both Zen 4 and 5 CPUs (non-X3D chips as well).

>>109347241
>The requested part list is private.

>>109347550
I'm currently driving Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 with Ryzen 5 7600 and I'm a bit afraid of putting anything X3D in it. Also I just wanted to buy something that will last and let me live through the next socket, like AM4 chads do. Guess I better wait to see what the next gen is going to offer.

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>>109347042
Sony was so unprofitable and high priced and un-competitive their whole tv business went kaput and had to be sold to China
Buying a Sony is the final cuck
they don't even have 4 HDMI 2.1's in 2026

>>109347117
it's better to buy a native 4k panel and render at whatever res you want

>>109347290
>hub confirms

>>109347708
Who is this qt3.14?

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>>109347758
plasmatv for gaming aka ariel
cuban american who talks about oled tvs, hdr, nvidia gpus and controllers and game graphics

>>109347789
he cute

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How brutal is the jump from a 3700X to s 9800x3d going to be when i finish my build? I only play cpu heavy games mostly.

>>109347831
like going from a 2700k to an 9900k

>>109347831
you wont even notice its so smol. you need a 9950x3d2.

>>109347866
And a Blackwell 6000

>>109347228
Go to microcenter buy a bundle, sell the CPU and motherboard, you got cheaper RAM

>>109347228
literally just wait
doomniggers want to pretend every price spike in the world is permanent and they are wrong every single time
no, this time wont be any different

>>109347878
>>109347866
"The more you buy the more you save" ahh replies

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If you were evilmaxxing, what components would you recommend to people?

>>109347911
9950x3d2 and a blackwell 6000

>>109347892
>literally just wait
just earn more money
you cant outwait poverty

>>109347831
from snoy playstation to pc

>>109347911
>evilmaxxing
What is that? Flexing on poor people? Bond villain aesthetics? Suporting unethical companies?

>>109347789
ive never seen a man this young

>>109347911
14900ks, 4x32gb ddr5 ram and rtx4090 gpu core removed scam edition

>>109347892
>literally just wait
For years.

>>109347911
Used 14900ks, some GPU sold direct from China and most importantly the cheapest PSU you can find that just barely meets the power requirements.

>>109347899
That actually turned out to be true, could've had a cheap 4090/4080 super, or an MSRP 5070ti/5080 and most importantly an MSRP 5090.

>>109347911
Which Intel generation was the self-bricking one?

>>109347911
7800x3d cpu
32gb ddr5 ram (5400mhz or 5600mhz)
9070xt gpu (dual 8 pin)
asus b850 mobo (atx)
seasonic 850w psu
case without glass
no lgbt light
thermalright dual tower cooler
2tb nvme
>>109347973
doesn't narrow it down since most boards are going to die under that much load

i5-11600K + 9070 XT on a CX650M 650 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Modular ATX PSU?
yay or nay?

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what are my case options for double or even triple gpu setups with plenty hdd bays? server chassis come with all kinds of strings attached so I am now looking at desktop cases

>>109347959
when ram prices are back to normal in 6 months (they are dropping everyday) will you kill yourself?

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>>109347990
>they are dropping everyday
lol

>>109347989
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7-xl/black-solid/

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>>109347994
>meanwhile, on every ram listing

>>109348007
Wow, you took a screenshot of a text saying "LOWEST PRICE in 30 days" that is on some site on some product? Well, now I'm convinced!

>>109348007
>RAM package used to cost 250 EUR
>same package now costs 1250 EUR
>price """drops""" to 1200 EUR
>LOWEST PRICE
SEE GUYS
PRICES ARE DROPPING
EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL

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>>109347997
weird pcpp reports 6 bays

>>109348014
>>109348019
prices are dropping and doomniggers will rope themselves
its hilarious you faggots are upset that ram isnt permanently expensive

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>>109348020
Might be because Fractal no longer ships all of the HDD trays with their cases (since they presume most people will not be using all of them). My old Define R4 came with all of the HDD trays that would fit in it (8) back in the day.

>Mount up to 18 HDD/SSDs plus five SSDs in the Storage Layout (6 HDD/SSD trays + 2 SSD brackets + 2 Multibrackets included)

So you need to buy the case + as many of these as you need.

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>>109348029
I don't consider this "dropping".

>>109348029
ram and nand shit always goes in a cycle but it was like more like a 2x or whatever not a 10x
this is probably the worst ever
i mean if in 2030 shit is more normal or ai slop crash idk
only winning move is to buy a prebuilt if you are gonna spend so much anyway to soak up the cost

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>>109348031
>bro let me just post these meaningless doomnigger charts that means ram is forever expensive
see that price drop? its going to comtinue, and its coming for ddr5 next, and it will make you seethe so hard you jump off a bridge and end your worthless life.

>>109348055
Oh, so all this time you've been basing your speculation on DDR4 pricing? No fucking wonder.

>>109348059
>goalposts moved
its only the first month of price drops. its going to continue, ddr5 is next, and you will kill yourself.

>>109348062
>>goalposts moved
I'm not the one who went from "RAM prices are dropping every day" to "DDR4 prices have dropped and are not continuing to drop".

>>109348070
ddr5 is next. you will kill yourself.

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>>109348070

>>109347917
:0
my motives are pure!

>>109348101
@grok is this real

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>>109348146
*pure garbage
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe

>>109348156
beans

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>>109347831
Pic related, except
> use 3800x as stand-in for 3700x
> use 7800x3d +10% for 9800x3d

>>109348331
>13 game average
useless slop in his case when cpu limited
the difference is way higher

>>109348101
a while ago a retailer sold out 96gb kits for cheap during the crisis just now
slow kits 5200-5600 speeds or whatever
considered buying even tho they were slow just because
i didnt boughted even then

>>109347526
X870 refresh boards have already maxed out what am5 has to offer in pcie lane usage
I can't imagine x970 will be much better at all unless you're looking for a subset of features no current boards offer
>>109348343
Shoulda buyboughted since ram speed doesn't matter to x3d

>>109348351
from a quick search x970 supposedly offers CUDIMM and CAMM DDR5 RAM support. I don't know if anyone with a x870 board and ram would bother with this given the current state of prices and am6 in a few years anyway

>>109348390
CUDIMM support is dependent on AGESA and the physical IO die on the cpu. Zen5 is able to run it in passive mode while zen4 doesn't boot with it. Zen6 should be able to run it in active mode on all am5 boards if AMD allows it

>>109348432
I remember AMD wanted to replace AGESA. The rumor is that x970 runs the ram better as current board use some bypass? I didn't go into the details but seems like an attempt to get some last bucks out of enthusiasts. Motherboard sales have stagnated a bit with other parts being expensive

>power flickered twice this morning after getting my pc all topped off
I swear to god

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>>109348580
yeah agesa is getting replaced by openSIL
it's already supposedly booting and running on zen5 silicon, though I'm not sure which board has it
also I just remembered unikoshardware saying something about zen6's memory controller requiring a specific layout for 2 dimm boards due to some fundamental change/limitation in the new memory controller
>https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1911682567260279246?lang=en

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>>109348610
>https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1915510385421304265

>>109348618
Is that an additional fan meant to push air through the gpu passthrough fins?

>>109348618
Overclocker boards like the apex being incompatible with zen6 with two slots only would be hilarious but also ridiculous. X970 apex soon?

>>109348642
Unikoshardware speculated wrongly in the first post and corrected himself saying that the gene and apex is compliant with the guideline and should be able to run zen6 flawlessly
It's the other 1dpc boards like the b650 tachyon or other itx boards using a0b0 channels that might break compatibility with zen6
And yeah I hope they release a white apex next

>>109347911
1. An Asus motherboard so it'll push its Armory Crate bloatware from the very BIOS. AM5 platform of course to lock the build on expensive DDR5 memory, also just shuill for one stick of DDR5 RAM with the shittiest speed/latency ratio possible making any upgrades painful.
2. Some Ryzen 7 8700 as CPU since we're on AM5.
3. An LG monitor for pretty much the same reason bloatware reason as the motherboard.
4. A Gigabyte 5080 GPU to leak its thermal paste while burning its connector and being terrible price/performance value.
5. A 500W PSU of some SaarWare brand nobody heard of before and mystery inside.
6. Custom loop water cooling to be too expensive, too hustle to manage and to leak one day.
7. A fake overpriced Samsung SSD to die after it writes 120GB.

Dunno what else.

>>109347290
>same performance
>one cpu runs at 60w the other runs at 220w

>>109348599
Your UPS?

How old is your monitor?

How old is your case?

How old is your cooler?

>>109348862
1 week
10 years
3 years

>>109348862
Main monitor is about 2.5 years old.
Secondary monitor is about six years old.
Case and cooler are both three years old.

>>109348862
All bought in 2021
and have no idea when I will be able to upgrade

>>109348701
im retard enlight me which one eats more power?

>>109348945
the i7 with it's "efficiency" cores

>>109348945
the 14700k uses more power

Holy shit, why do people still buy IPS monitors when Mini-LED exists? This is insane:

https://youtu.be/7LHmECIMoBc

>>109348960
>>109348962
thank

>>109348971
if the nigger turns off the light he's shining at the screens on purpose the difference is much smaller

>>109348982
Copium

Why can't they make air coolers as beautiful as water coolers? Air cooler are so fucking ugly…

>>109348862
like 3,5 years on all lapt
befre that my old pc was 12-13 yaers old before died+donated

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>>109349035
no they're not

>>109348862
third monitor 16 years
second monitor maybe 8
main monitor year and a half

case and cooler 2.5 years

>>109348971
Mini LED is a backlight technology, dumbo.

>>109348862
A year for each.
Honestly this will probably be the longest span I'll go between upgrades since getting my job. Maybe it's a good thing I'm being cut off from consooming, I need to tackle my backlog anyways.

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>>109348971
minileds are a better backlight tech than edge lit or whatever shit is default but you are just glazing lcd again
it's shit
algorithing entriely dependont on the monitor
blooming, haloing, laggy zones
laggy panels, ips or worse va slop
does not have infinite contrast, good blacks with dimmming but nothing more
still bad viewing angles
and so on

first rule of oled club, don't buy miniled

>>109349035
>big piece of metal with fans
>plastic chinese crap
I stick with air cooling because it looks better.

>>109349158
stop posting this autist

>>109349220
i need fun imagery for context though

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Reminder that if you have a GPU stronger than a 4070 and you aren’t pairing it with a x3d processor you are a cuck.

>>109349291
high iq gamer: always max out cpu first (imagine now that the disparity between gpu and cpu is fucking enoomorus too)
low iq gamer: mah balanced cpu+gpu build no bottleneck

>>109349291
>9900ks+5070ti
I don't need more

>>109349291
They should do these tests with upscaling
Idk how the native res reflects real world performance

>Arrives today
>Still not here yet
AAAAH FUCK OFF UFCK OFFF FUCK OFF AMAZON WHERES MY FUCKING PC

>>109349416
>he bought a prebuilt
yikes

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/mohdhm/saved/#view=NKfzFT

can anyone vet my setup?

>>109349220
he is very entertaining (and cute)

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the powercolor reva 9070xt has no business looking this pretty for being a gooner card

How many dwarves can my fortress have with a 7800X3D?

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>>109349291
will I be okay!?

>>109349451
The anime woman on top ruined it.

>>109349451
Which aio is that?

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>>109349451
hellhound looks better

>>109349451
I want powercolor and sapphire to lean back into their edgy branding of older days (devil 13 and toxic) to really make some vicious looking cards. I want my gpu to look like someone molested a countach and jammed it into my case. Sharp angles all the way down.

>>109349451
Wtf forget the card that aio looks cool as fuck what is that

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>>109349471
>muh white
it still looks better

>>109349470
TRYX (トライエックス) PANORAMA SE 360mm ARGB
>https://www.cfd.co.jp/biz/product/detail/l-p360l-am3m-g0w.html

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>>109349471
>only 3 8pin
get on my level
Plus this shockingly was a 600w card and it DIDN'T catch fire!

guys is pci-e 5.1 worth it

>>109349485
>black plug in white socket
hmm...

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>>109349494
dual gpu. doesn't count. also only two 8 pin like god intended.
>>109349502
>

>>109349061
Evading sanctions isn't cool.

>>109349499
nothing after pcie 4 is worth is as far as gaming is concerned unless you absolutely need to shave .2 seconds off of a 3 second load time

>>109349511
how about 1 second off 18 second load time?

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>>109349506

>>109349506
>dual gpu. doesn't count.
Still 600w going into the card and given its the connector itself that melts on 12vHPWR cards where it goes once it hits the pcb doesn't matter. 8pin rules, 12vHPWR drools.

>>109349493
>$280
Holy shit, are you fucking insane?

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>not even mentioning the 9950x3d2
i bought one for my server and my pc, just cause im not poor. question is, how does that make you... feel?

How much longer are current component designs tenable? GPUs are now larger than bricks, memory is now being baked into the SoC for latency, and so on.

>>109349523
why do you think there's only one bare ram stick in his pc

>>109349533
Post pictures of your 2X9950X3D2

Is it overkill to buy a 360mm AIO for a 5700X3D?

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>>109349533

>>109349533
I just think you're a pathetic consoomer and I feel superior to you.

>people cant build pcs so they talk about AIO's as if they're relevant in year 2026 for 60w cpus
>and gpu anime girl paint jobs
grim

>>109348862
Everything under 3 months

>>109349533
post cinebench numbers and geekbench numbers or it didn't happen

>>109349571
i dont wanna do both, you want cine or geek

>>109348862
five years
six months
six months

>>109349579
do cinebench on the pc and geek (works heedlessly) on the server
i wanna know how it runs on windows and linux

>>109349567
Get butthurt about trivial things more why don't you

my fckng latopop keybard is breaking
why the fck are entre clsters f keys nt wrng

>>109349608
should've bought an apple device
the reliable laptop brand

>>109349567
Can't build a PC when I'm waiting for parts to arrive.

war is heating up again and tech stocks are getting hammered hard because everyone is afraid of the capex numbers, a big crash is obviously incoming and that will make ram and nand cheap again

>>109349594
im running a bunch of critical services on the server, so that wont be very good anyway. pc im doing stuff too but i guess i could close shit for a sec

People who bought 5090s are idiots, your PC will become obsolete in 4 years, morons:

https://youtu.be/cHocYnA_JVY

>>109349638
A real war or an American war?

>>109349653
Just like how the RTX 4090 is obsolete?

>>109349638
it wont be cheap again
you know how people used to buy the "recommended" amount of ram to be able to game
now hundred million people want an AI capable pc at home and are willing to pay extra for the ram

>>109349653
yeah but $5000 bucks is like $500 from 20 years ago. its budget. the prices of things have simply changed, grandpa

>>109349653
that's a really sweet rig that'd still be an upper midrange pc today
can't say the same for 6950xt rigs though

>>109349652
if you aren't running ecc those services aren't that critical

>>109349638
>bombing mud huts in brownistan is a war
LOL Americans are so funny

>>109349703
they love losing wars like that. irans missiles go trough patriots like nothing.

>>109349549
Yes.

>>109349662
>now hundred million people want an AI capable pc
98% of the consumer base doesn't even know how to install linux, you think they are able to run llms on their computers?
the vast majority of people just want enough ram so the pc turns on

>>109349716
Should I buy one just for aesthetics though?

>>109349662
>now hundred million people want an AI capable pc at home and are willing to pay extra for the ram
Source?

>>109349744
You think people are stupid? Even a chimpanzee can be trained to install Linux nowadays, dude.

>>109349758
>You think people are stupid?
Yes.

>>109349638

>Surely the stocks going down will suddenly make AI in it's entirety disappear and cancel 100% of the data centers.

AI is here to stay and most nations on earth haven't even started building their own AI systems.
And if local gets good enough to replace the expensive cloud, giga AI corporations are going to eat shit as businesses start building their own systems, making the shortages infinitely worse than they are now.
Hardware shortages and price increases are going to go on for a long ass time and the current prices are going to seem like a very good deal two years from now.

>>109349748
That is up to you but just know you don't need it to keep the cpu nice and cool.

>>109349653
> 2x 3090 Ti
> obsolete
Nah that's still nice for local LLMs

>>109349758
yes, people are stupid, 99% of the people will never run llms in their pcs, they'll pay for the service
>>109349769
stocks momentum already moved from ai companies to hardware companies and when hardware companies show ai companies stopped buying new hardware because they ran out of money the next step is a big boom

>>109349703
the worst is they never really win. They pretend they won and a few years shit starts again

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>>109348639
>Is that an additional fan
That fan's airflow points upwards to cool overclocked memory modules.

>>109348862
Almost two years old
Less than a year old
Less than a year old

>>109348971
Take the bias light pill if you own an LCD monitor.
https://www.biaslighting.com/products/lx1-bias-lighting-cri-95-6500k-simulated-d65-white-bias-lights?variant=43529467920622

>>109349421
There a better memory kit (6400 MT/s CL32) sold at a cheaper price, only one left in stock at the time of writing.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PBJ6Bv
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yr3NnQ/kingston-fury-beast-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-kf564c32bbeak2-32

You just have to manually lower the speed and primary timings to 6000 MT/s 30-40-40-80
Or copy one of Buildzoid's easy timing.
https://www.patreon.com/buildzoid/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
The memory kit in your current list won't work with Buildzoid's timing guide because it doesn't have Hynix memory chips.

There's also a PSU that offers better value for money.
If you want to stick to Corsair RM750, spend a bit more for the be quiet! Pure Power 13 M
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/yWJBD3/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp026us

If the 9060 XT 16GB is out of your budget, it is what it is.

>>109349769
>And if local gets good enough to replace the expensive cloud, giga AI corporations are going to eat shit as businesses start building their own systems, making the shortages infinitely worse than they are now.
Yeah, the downside of Anthropic/OpenAI/etc eating shit is that LLMs are more efficient when everyone is using shared hardware. Just loading the model uses a baseline amount of memory, so it'll take as much hardware to have a model available for a single user as it does for a hundred users. You also have speed benefits from caching.

>>109349818
Man, I love the design on those old Apple monitors. Too bad they're kinda shitty just in general, let alone at their price point.

>>109349784
its way to fucking expensive to run these LLMs on your PC right now. you have money to spend on 128GB of ram for a local setup?

>>109347708
>it's better to buy a native 4k panel and render at whatever res you want
so you get a blurry image because crts are the only monitors who have been able to provide an equal(ly blurry) image below native res.

>>109349818
Don't copy his tRAS 30 advice, it's outdated information.
Just leave tRAS on auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS_NeTwjOvY

You should also leave tFAW & related timings at:
tRRD_S 8
tWTR_S 4
tFAW 32
https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1470#post-29475693
TLDR: Stick to tFAW 32 on DDR5 UDIMMs, because lowering it can create pipeline stalls by disrupting the memory architecture's 1024-Byte page size and its alignment with CPU cache line transfers.
The BIOS firmware is likely correcting lower tFAW and related memory read timings.

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>>109349699
oh, yeah i just mean critical for my context. people playing on a palworld server, serving a public facing dns that friends and family use, etc.

didnt do too bad. didnt close everything though, and have some codex's running, though thats not too heavy

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>>109349567
I just refreshed my 7 year old AM4 setup.
Bought a 55" 4k144hz mini-LED, 9070, 5800X3d, Phantom Spirit 120 Evo, 850w platinum Lian Li PSU, and an Antec Flux Wood case. Transplanted my old X570, 32gb DDR4, and 1tb SSD into the new rig. Still need to order more 140mm fans off Amazon but it stays cool enough for now.

>>109349653
I coined the term the gpu housing market for a reason
You buy 90 series and it inflates to two times the price and you sell it for double or break even and upgrade to the next 90 series
The 5090 was the best price performance gpu again
When will you retards learn

Save up and hop on the gpu housing market

>>109349915
>Bought a 55" 4k144hz mini-LED
You didn't listen

>>109349916
that only happened for the 4090 since it can be modded to 48gb and still run on official drivers
5090 will drop like a rock (3090) once the 6090 arrives

>>109349853
This is entirely dependent on the scaling done
And monitors are higher res and higher ppi and you are scaling to a higher res than 480p now a days
This is so beyond irrelevant you have no idea
You are living in the year 1998

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My maid just laughed out loud and made fun of me when she saw the Frieren figure inside my case. Feels bad.

>>109349953
Too late 5090 already inflated to twice the price
Try again next time

>>109349953
3090 can be modded can't it? Just the 50x series can't be hacked

>>109349965
>xfx
how loud is it by default?

>>109349965
maybe it reminded her of the jar ponies

>>109349973
it merely 1.4x'd in my cunt though
>>109349975
nah 3090 is hard locked to 24gb in firmware. the 4090 is a special case since there's an early official vbios signed by nvidia that can fully address 48gbs of vram

>>109349965
>bought a meager foid idol instead of a glorious mecha that wouldn't have fit inside the case
Asked for it

>>109349758
If it's not as easy as clicking on an exe and clicking install and then having a working chatbot right after, the normies ain't gonna be able to do it

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brehs i got my pg32ucdm3... i think i need a second oled, i can't believe i've been living like this with these peasant ips displays

>>109349965
deport her

>>109350034
sucks to be the past you

>>109349956
Go on then. Show how crisp and crystal clear monitor-scaling from 720p to 4k is. You won't.
The use case for 4k is strictly televisions for media playback. Actual heavy loads like rendering and gaming won't be meant for 4k until the day hardware can actually run it, WITHOUT compromises. No DLSS faggotry. No "just set all the settings to trash bro". 4k, max settings, RT/PT enabled, 60fps+, available at least on the x090 card of the era.

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>>109350034
OLED monitors are CRT schizo-approved.

>>109347892
The price spike from crypto years ago was permanent tho

>>109349935
It's the best display I've ever owned by a mile (besides my 16" laptop OLED screen) and I got it on sale at over 60% off. And it's not on my desk, it's four feet away.

>>109349989
>it merely 1.4x'd in my cunt though
Well, the moisture is probably not good for it.

Is gaming on a projector better than on an OLED?

>>109350223
projector is inferior for everything besides having a 100" movie watching experience with a large group of people

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Seeking to rebuild my old PC build to make it a "whatever" PC or an AI loop machine.

I need 1To of storage for OS and slop content. Maybe some modern games for one in a moon playtesting some shit or who knows playing with my magical girlfriend not yet in my life.

What SSD model would recommend? I'm not trying to be overkill on speed, just something rather durable, that will be fast enough that I don't complain.
Aiming for cheap prices of course.

>>109350223
Anything is better than a projector...

>>109350237
>>109350246
Proof? Almost every rich person I know has a projector for movies and stuff.

>>109347892
In France, in 1990, a Baguette was under 0.50€. Today it's not under 1€, a good one in the countryside being 1.20€.

>>109350238
rebuild what exactly, change every component?
For ssd I'd look at pcie 4 nvmes with dram, but besides that it depends on whats cheap in these crazy times.
>ai loop
I dont know what that is. local ai models need max vram gpu/ddr5 ram you can afford.

>>109350255
I doubt the projectors you were considering have as many zeroes on the end.

>>109350238
Western Digital / Sandisk for NVMe SSDs. SN850X (PCIe Gen 4) or SN8100 (Gen 5) for high end, SN7100 for DRAMless (but same TBW endurance rating).
Avoid the SN7100S (cheaper one with lower rated endurance)

Samsung EVO 870 for SATA SSD

>Aiming for cheap prices of course.
None of those are cheap, you'll have to gamble on some Chinese/Taiwanese SSDs and trust their spec sheets.
TeamGroup, Silicon Power, and Lexar (Lexar NM790) are the more reliable brands in this tier.
Some people complain about ADATA / XPG, but I think they're bang average (not terrible, not great).
ZhiTai (YMTC-owned), BiWin (makes Acer SSDs) might be worth considering.

>>109350282
Is that supposed to make me go "holy shit!!" Or something? Because that's honestly a pretty insignificant difference.

>>109350223
Projectors are awful.

>>109350322
It is, but you're too fucking retarded to see how significant a 240% increase in price is just because the example's raw numbers are low.

>>109350255
Can you afford a rich person projector?

>>109350282
>In France, in 1990, a Baguette was under 0.50€.
Damn, France was using the Euro in 1990?

Is he right, bros?

https://youtu.be/xxA8W_qFvdw

>>109350356
kill yourself

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yo we eatin gud open world chads

>>109350391
techno philosopher king here. thats because playing a single player rpg is relatable in every way except that the character actually does things - the thing males wish they did. so its perfectly relatable and then fills in the one gap they wanted, thus loneliness goes with it

>>109350283
>>109350314

Windows
5600X
GTX 1080
DDR4 3200Mhz C16
MSI 550 Gaming Plus

Cheers

>>109350356
Stock AM5 settings are so garbage it makes your system feel like AM4

>>109350449
You need to state some sort of budget, mid range pcs are like 2k € these days
And the use case is occasional gaming + doing local LLMs?

>>109350470
any good guides on what all should be changed? currently i just set negative pbo offsets and tighten the ram a bit. well i do other things too, but theyre small stuff

>>109347758
miyazaki fromsoftware, he does reviews in his spare time.

>>109350391
how does open world promote stoicism

>>109350481
If your FCLK is unstable it feels like your input and joystick movement is dragging. When gaming and entering a loading screen your audio or microphone would stutter or sound robotic for a brief half second. Every CPU is different regarding this just like VSOC.

then theres the usual:

GDM OFF
SVM, IOMMU, TSME disabled
Data Scramble Enabled
MCR disabled
PDE disabled
Train reduction Time disabled
Hash Bank enabled
Hash Bank swap apu (igpu disabled)
Latency killer off
Fast boot off
Spread Spectrum off
glocbal c state enabled
balanced power plan

AAAAH AMAZON STILL DIDNT DELIVER MY PC IVE BEEN WAITING SINCE EARLY MORNING IM NEVER BUYING THERE AGAIN

>>109350520
You may need some adhd meds

>>109350510
A new study suggests open-world games may do more than just help players escape for a few hours. Published in JMIR Serious Games, the research surveyed 2,252 adults and found that people who played open-world adventure games, including The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, reported lower levels of loneliness than nonplayers.

The study also found that these players showed higher levels of stoicism, described as emotional resilience, self-control, and the ability to handle challenges calmly. Researchers believe exploration-based games can encourage persistence, problem-solving, recovery from setbacks, and emotional regulation, while more accessible feel-good games may help create a healthier “digital diet” for emotional well-being.

The authors are not saying games replace therapy or professional mental health support, but the findings push back against the idea that gaming is only passive escapism. For many players, these worlds can become spaces to breathe, reflect, adapt, and feel a little less alone. Do open-world games help you disconnect in a good way?

>>109350477
Well budget is cheapest possible. In my country those BiWin are 110 bucks for a Gen 3 3500 mo/s write speed. That might do the trick.

Not planning on doing a full 24/7 loop with those specs, just running a harness to build some shit, and maybe make use of it differently later.

I'd like to use in AI computer use and be an isolated system if shits goes down. It's not a Local AI machine strictly, as I'll use API or Subscriptions, unless future AI optimization opens my options more.

>>109349965
Why do you say this about your mom

>>109350527
AND YOU NEED TO LEARN WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND NOT STICK YOUR NOSE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S BUSINESS

>>109350126
You could have had a vastly superior oles for same or less the price which is the point

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>>109349965
at least your mom didnt see your hellhound

>>109349818
man in just 1 hour and the ram and PSU went out of stock. im fucking pissed, those were EXCELLENT suggestions

>>109350551
The cheapest local ai gpu might be re-released rtx 3060 12gb, or 5060 ti 16gb
Your cheapest path is upgrading cpu to 5800x3d, since going to am5 requires ddr5 ram which costs 400$ per 32gb
Upgrading ddr4 ram to higher sizes for AI is way cheaper than ddr5.

>>109350045
You are mentally unwell and stuck in a mind trap set for yourself

>>109350034
Now buy a s95 and compare

>>109350593
You mean I could not just slap a 5060ti on a DDR4 system and having it to work?

>>109350034
>>109350105
Enjoy your burn-ins, fags.

>>109350631
The gpu works on any system, you can upgrade it without fuzz.

But the cpu, mobo platform, ddr combo is specific.

>>109350631
you see the thing about pcie is that it doesn't care about what version of ddr you're using

>>109350580
eyyy that is me pee cee (i have a 9070xt now)

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>>109350514
thanks

test

>>109350580
bro why are you blocking your airflow like that wtf

When do you guys think the 6600 will become obsolete?

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>>109350823
shut up foid

10 100+ hours JRPGs for you to play on your 5090

https://youtu.be/7EJ-wj55IGs

>>109347892
listen to this anon
we're not paying 2000 dollars for high end consumer grade gpus after all

>>109350816
>zoomoid can't discern a photoshop from reality

>>109350587
Get this TeamGroup 6000 MT/s CL30 kit (most likely Hynix A over M) if you're committed to paying CA$600.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01

Alternatives
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae
The Silicon Power memory kit has heat spreaders for only one side, it's not necessarily a deal breaker.
But I'd just get the TeamGroup T-Create.

Are you going DDR5 to upgrade to a Zen 6/7 CPU in the future?
Here is a DDR4 alternative
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bMLzvR

>>109346708
>playing league
>screen goes black
>fans still spinning
>orange light on
>powercycle, but wont boot
>reseat everything and test with spare ram set
Either my cpu or motherboard just exploded, which I guess is deserved for making it play league. 9800x3d and asus proart x870e. crucial pro 2x32 ddr5 6000. I really hope it's the cpu. I don't want to have to dig out the motherboard.

now that personal computing is kill, what's next for /pcbg/?

>>109351370
We ride out our builds until they die in the next 10 years then move over to our trumpstein administered rtx spark goytop where they own all of our information and spy on you 24/7

>>109351370
the best games don't need a lot of power. i have enough hardware to build many computers out of it and run linux on all of them. personal computing has gotten an upgrade for me.

>>109351361
orange light over which led?

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>>109351370
>>109351402
I'm saving for cheap land to start a homestead. Either I'll be saving so much money that expensive ass components won't bother me, or I'll just live a simpler lifestyle without gaming. I won't need a PC to distract me from expensive urban hell and modern society if I'm living in nature on land that I own.
I just upgraded my AM4 rig to its limits (can still upgrade GPU in the future tho), new PSU and cooler as well, and I'm gonna ride it for the next decade until it crumbles. Might even be my last PC, who knows. Maybe I'll take up woodworking or archery or something since I'll have the space.

The keys uiop just stop working from time to time on my keyboard what the fuck is wrong
Then they start responding again then disappear again

>>109351492
The orange light is for ram on my mobo.

If you guys just stopped playing games, and running local AI, and doing 3D rendering, none of you would ever give a shit about this and would be happy with cheap office PCs.

>>109351910
What else is there to do on the pc. Everything else is boring and uninteresting or unproductive like doomscrolling but I do that on my phone because it's more convenient.

>>109351910
>If you stopped having hobbies, you would be fine with the goybox everyone else uses.

>>109351361
Start an AMD CPU RMA and get a replacement, ASUS will probably ask you to do this first anyway.
Board BIOS should be updated to at least version 2103 (2026/03/16), latest stable version recommended (update through USB Flashback).

>>109351940
Yeah it's updated already. I've been having some weird issues when booting into windows recently, so a dying memory controller makes sense to me. I'm just going to bring it to a shop so that they can try the cpu in another board and vice versa. I don't want to have to wait for the cpu rma, then wait for a mobo rma if that was the actual issue.

>>109351910
Thanks Sherlock!

so im upgrading wifes pc and decided to browse the fairy popular local forum here for some used parts
>guy 1 is selling used 3080 10gb
>guy 2 chimes in "do not buy this! its overpriced and used! you should rather buy a new 9060 xt!"
>guy 3 chimes in "nah do not buy amd, nvidia is superior"
>the listing is now basically just charts and screenshot comparisons of upscaling technologies
same situation happens on amd listings as well, i know that there were always fanboys of these companies but i dont remember them fighting under peoples listings of items and ive been browsing this forum for over 20 years now

>>109352213
Idk about a forum, it can be couple autists arguing to sway the mood.
The internet talk about popular tech revolve around similar resources that are freely available. Few popular youtubers, toms hardware.

3080 is pretty old at this point, newer cards are much more energy efficient. Nvidia has better featureset, but amd is alright for upscaling in games these days.

>>109352213
ya gpu fanboys are insane im a big car guy and i dont see that much fighting even when reading car stuff

>>109352292
Anything "nerd" adjacent tends to bring out more undesirable behavior when compared to other activities/hobbies.

>>109352213
guy 2 is absolutely correct