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>>109354005https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/epyc-monsters-amd-unveils-its-epyc-9006-series-zen-6-processors/ZEN 6ZEN 6ZEN 6ZEN 6ZEN 6
>>109354037>not 7ghzits ogre
uhh.. is this game supposed to look like this at 1440p
>>109354037Wake me up when AM6 comes out.
>>109354279and anon dies in their sleep
>>109354230Google Earth sometimes goes down
>>109354037>DDR5-8000mhzGuess this will be the sweet spot for zen6
It's hard to tell from the pic, but this tower cooler I bought is so small and cute. I want to give it a hug...
>>109354334Yes 8000CL36
>used 3090s are now €1000+ in my cuntWhen are they going to stop giving money to the Altman faggot?
>>109354397>$630 for the cheapest 8000mhz cl38So about a $200 premium from the cheapest 6000mhz kit, zen 6 is gonna need to offer a lot to be worth the upgrade if that's the case.
>>1093544043090s will never go down in price thanks to AI retards, this will be true for any GPU that has 24gb+ vram
>>109354422If you have X3D you can skip the fast ram if you don't have X3D then you need it.
>>109354431Didn't 7900xtx prices basically collapse?
>>109354451Sorry I should have specified, any Nvidia GPU with 24gb+, the average ai user is too stupid to figure out how to use ai on AMD while with Nvidia it's piss easy.
>>109354451Nobody wants amd slop
>pc parts arrive>except the ram it arrives tomorrow or Saturdaybruh, I want to assemble this already
>>109354451>>109354491All 24-gb gpus regardless of vendor are $1000+. 960 gb/s and better memory bandwidth means MORE MONEY. CUDA is not worth more money, MEMORY is.RTX 5080 is 960 gb/s and is $1100-1300+, 7900XTX is 960gb/s as well.
>>109354473The reason is tensor cores retard. Dense models and diffusion simply perform better on nvidia cards.I bought enterprise amd cards and compiled rocm support, well the cards are *ok* for moe they arent good for much else.
>>109354451XT/GRE prices collapsed, XTX is still $1000+
>>109354451FSR4 and Linux and AI made 7900 price shoot up
>>109354515Given ram is just plug in and go unless you have an xbox hueg air cooler you can just build the rest of it. Even if the cooler is huge just not fitting the front fan solves the issue.
>>109354564I watched some videos for my specific case and it seems its better to do the back wiring fist due to space, so Ill wait just i case, I got an AIO not a fan, should be fine, but might as well wait I guess
https://x.com/i/status/2080171803406692742Has he finally redeemed himself?
imagine doing a single LLM computation by hand, without ram or a CPU, but your brain. Holy fucking shit. Id die
>be LG >deliver adware/bloatware through drivers using Windows Update >be LG >let app developers turn TVs into residential proxies >be LG >serve ads as notifications on flagship TVs while ads are turned off>be LG >force users to accept terms giving away their data for AI training (or no more security updates) >be LG >make owners responsible for warning guests they may be recorded "in compliance with applicable wiretapping… laws" >be LG >Microsoft contacts you to teach you about ethics>be LG
>>109354534>CUDA is not worth more money
Anyone here have kids?
>>109354764You're right! That would be SO difficult, maybe we can focus on something easier? Whatever you need, you take the lead.
Guys I can't decide between 4k 27" or 4k 32" what should I choose... I want crisp text but fractional scaling seems retarded, is the ppi difference between 163 and 137 really that significant?
>>109354865you can use mullvad dns service as a extra parental control filter
>>109354895I got 4k 37", no regrets
>>109354037>No IPC claimsI guess zen6 is doa
>>109354895Go to a.store and have a look at them personally, I was gonna go 27"4k because it though 32" was too big but after seeing it in person I went for the 32"
>>109354980It's coming out this year so you can just wait for reviewers, I'm sure Wendell will get some and since he caters to both consumers and pros he'll do some benchmarks for us.
>>10935498015% better average. 25-30% better in certain workloads (AVX512)
hmmmm. i can't help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2 in the OP.
>>109355131Ikr? Can't stand these poorfags.
>>109354769so it beginssoon we'll be standing up and cheering "mcdonalds!" to resume playing our content
https://x.com/i/status/2080352997314572523Lmao. If you install windows it snitches your IP even through VPNs
Apparently, a bunch of krauts figured out active current balancing before PSU manufacturers.https://shop.aquacomputer.de/Monitoring-and-Controlling/AMPINEL/AMPINEL-12V-2x6-graphics-card-power-management-type-A::4269.html
>>109355227Don't forget to perform the pre-agreed mcdonald's motion to end the advertisement
>>109355340All this work because nshitia decided 3-4 8 pins were too ugly for their cards, and the worst part is the consumers rewarded them by buying a record number of them.
>>109355182just throw it in there as "Nigger Rich" tier lol.
>>109355340>Spawned a cottage industry specializing in fixing Nvidia's messKrauts are built different
Do you guys leave your case on the table or under it?
>>109355444I value my leg space so the tower goes on the desk
>>109355444At present it's on a wooden table but my main table is glass so it goes under it.
Do y'all think this would be good for 1080P gaming and streaming or should I still just build my own? Ideally I'd keep the PC under $2000 so I can spend more on peripherals.https://www.microcenter.com/product/712043/powerspec-g732-gaming-pc
>>109355444Under but then again my desk is massive.
>>109355444Trying on the desk since I got tired of my standing desk jiggling the cables when adjusting the height while my pc was under it but I kinda miss the extra space
>>109355495I don't think you can do much better parting it yourself new. The build is great for 1080, good for 1440p even.
>>109355624Thanks for the input, I'm gonna pull the trigger I think. I may still settle for 1080p because that's fine for me. I'd rather ensure I have a smoother experience than having to tweak settings every other game.
I completed my pc build but now the fucking MSI bios detects my nvme ssd but doesn't detect the arch linux install in there. What should i do? Legacy stuff and disabling safe boot didn't work. What now?
Imagine no NVIDIAfaggotsI wonder if you canNo need for greed or hungerA brotherhood of gentoomanImagine all the PC buildersSharing all the codeYou may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world wide web will live as one
>>109355813i imagine we'll have the same nvidia vs amd tribalism 1000 years in the future over two competing spaceship brandstech may progress but humanity hasnt gotten more mature
...they'll never know how much I love Nvidia.
I have a question about OLED, for those of you that use it.I have a pretty good 1440p monitor right now, but was thinking of upgrading in the future.I remember I used to hear a lot of complaints about burn-ins, bad text and exorbitant prices from OLED users. But, recently, in the past one or two years, I see Youtubers make a lot of videos about how OLED is good now. Its technical problems have become negligible and its also affordable now. I'm not sure if they're shills or genuine and I will never trust Reddit, so I am asking the smart people on /g/.Its not like I am in a hurry to upgrade. I am VERY patient. I used the same system for 17 years before upgrading. So, I can deal with my current monitor. I heard there's this newfangled thing called MicroRGB thats better than both LCD and OLED but still sucks as a monitor. I am even willing to wait until MicroRGB becomes viable and affordable, although I don't think thats happening, atleast not in the next 15-20 years. So, I'm mostly checking out OLED.
Why does almost no one buy Alienware monitors? They are leagues above the others, holy shit dude they’re like fine aged wine compared to spoiled milk.
>>109355833Text issues are fixed once the new panels come out with RGB stripe, or you can get an older 4k panel where it's not as noticeable. The text fringing is only noticeable in the 1440p monitors. If you want the best oled monitor you're gonna need to wait till next year when they release the new models that have a black coating to fix the black turning purple in light problem, RGB stripe setup to fix text fringing, higher brightness,etc.
>>109355839They do, their QD OLED monitors are always recommended.
>>109354769Why would you even need security updates for TVs? Or allow it to connect to the internet or use a microphone? Its a fricking TV>>109354771I do think thats legit after what Wangfeng said in the latest investor call. He said that the software moat wasn't big anymore. Before they were forced to use CUDA and Njudea GPUs. But, now AI is so good at coding, they've made their own custom CUDA-equivalent software with AI's help that runs pretty good on Chinese GPUs.
>>109355871I see. And this is a bit of a tangent, but would you say a 4k OLED is much better than 1440p LCD? I say this because after I upgraded my system, I wasn't really impressed with the upgrade from 1080p to 1440p. I was perfectly fine gaming in 720p/1080p. And for less than half the price of my monitor I could've bought a really good 1080p monitor. So, I'm suffering from buyer's remorse and am wondering if upgrading displays is even worth it now.
>>109355900A 4k QD OLED is better than any LCD in everything except max brightness, I recommend you go to a store so you can see different oled monitors and see if they're something you want.
Thoughts on desktop matts? Should I get one that covers the whole surface of my desk and my monitor rests on it? Or should I just suck up that my cheap computer desk I bought off amazon is too small?My room is cramped because window and closet placement.
>>109355839I went Asus this time around instead of Alienware because they keep putting those tiny 40mm fans with high pitched whines in their high-end qdoled monitors
>>109354892fuck you :3
>>109354865maybe idk if the women I coomed in ever got pregnant or abortions
>>109355997Yes
Why the KOSPI is down today:A note is circulating that Morgan Stanley analyst Shawn Kim has turned bearish on memory.Summary of the note:----------------------------------------------------------Shawn Kim’s bearish take on memory- NANDModule makers are holding about 13 weeks of inventory, compared with a COVID-era peak of 15 weeks.“Demand has evaporated.”- The pace of price increases is expected to slow to 5% QoQ in Q4, reducing the need to pull forward demand.The opportunity cost of pulling forward demand is also much lower.- CSPs say their inventory levels are healthy.Tencent, one of the CSPs, said it has already secured 90% of its requirements.- NAND spot prices have been declining over the past two months.- Demand and supply appear to be converging.CXMT is ramping up supply rapidly.- DRAM: If NAND goes down, sell DRAM as well.- HBM: Growth is expected to be capped at around 40%, reportedly based on TrendForce data.- Joe Moore’s checks: Joe Moore looked into why their views differ.- His checks were conducted with U.S. CSPs, which may be overly bullish on AI.----------------------------------------------------------
>>109355839If you live in the US Dell/Alienware is great. If you live anywhere else it's awful.
>>109354865Yep, my son is right next to me as I write this.
>>109355826I love how she dabs on chainlink and AMD owners lel
>>109356072so hes saying its time to buy?
>>109355740check if any raid setting is on. one anon had a fun time installing windows with it on and his ssds and boot manager not showing up. maybe you need to re register the efi entries. idk how to do that on sytemd boot/ grub tho. gl hf.
>>109356207*ssd
>>109355740should have installed grub with the --removable tag
How do i configure/overclock my ram (2x16gb ddr5 cl30 6000mhz), and my cpu (9800x3d)? Never have i touched in the bios settings for overclocking. I did the thing and am using the xmp settings.
>>109356343look up a video about curve optimizer with a guy who actually explains what it is before configuring it. about the ram? idk. don't bother on x3d cpus. 6000mhz cl30 gives you 99% of the performance already if you enable docp. idk i'd set it to the tweaked profile is it is available too.
>>109356194built for big nvidia gpus
>>109356343If your FCLK is unstable it feels like your input and joystick movement is dragging. When gaming and entering a loading screen your audio or microphone would stutter or sound robotic for a brief half second. Every CPU is different regarding this just like VSOC.then theres the usual:GDM OFFSVM, IOMMU, TSME disabledData Scramble EnabledMCR disabledPDE disabledTrain reduction Time disabledHash Bank enabledHash Bank swap apu (igpu disabled)Latency killer offFast boot offSpread Spectrum offglobal c state enabledbalanced power plan
>>109355740go to bios screen and boot into uefi shell.use the DOS style prompt to find out what fs<number> your efi partition is using dir and cd commands.find the uefi bootloader (like systemd-bootx64.efi if you're using systemd-boot) and run it.then once you're booted back into linux make sure you check bootctl or whatever bootloader install command to make sure the efi variables get set.t. msi mobo forgets every time you upgrade the bios. which also overrides the set boot order until you change it in the bios.
>>109356194radeon sisses, how do we even begin to cope getting humiliated and cucked this hard?
>>109356343https://www.patreon.com/buildzoid/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831leave tRAS on autoleave tRFC2 and tRFCsb on auto, make sure refresh mode is normal>>109356476>MCR disabledis MCR still really that bad on AMD?
>>109356541>is MCR still really that bad on AMD?No but ram training makes your system faster at the expense of longer cold boots. You ever notice right after a ram training your mouse is extra smooth?
>>109356702lmao ok nevermind
>We tested modern processors in Halo Campaign Evolved. For the first time the popular 3D V Cache technology from AMD provided no performance gain.>The Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus took the lead with 151 FPS. The flagship AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D scored 140 FPS and fell noticeably behind competitors.>In this title the overall architecture of Intel processors showed an advantage over 10%.I fucking told you faggots that the 3D cache was a meme. The preformance crown has been given back to Intel.
>>109356540Man, my 4090 is still really good.
>>109356746>I fucking told you faggots that the 3D cache was a meme.Based on the fact that they've managed to find a single game where it doesn't help?>For the first time the popular 3D V Cache technology from AMD provided no performance gain.>For the first time>the first time
>>109356746who are you quoting
Halo: Campaign Evolved Reviews are here!The game is getting across the board praise for its 2 hour of new missions, the graphical uplift and for overall upholding what Combat Evolved was always so good at. the main criticisms come down to the new shiny art style that does not work as well as the original's timeless style plus some reviewers feel the remake comes across as unnecessary.Average score: 83Loot Level Chill - 10/10VGC - 10/10Push Square - 9/10Carole Quintaine - 8.5/10Game Informer - 8.5/10PSX Brasil - 8.5/10Destructoid - 8.5/10Creative Bloq - 8/10GameSpot - 8/10TheGamer - 8/10Stevivor - 8/10Insider Gaming - 7/10GamesRadar+ - 7/10TheSixthAxis - 7/10IGN - 7/10
>>109355900Going up will just force you to use upscaling for anything recent. OLED isn't as good as people make it.
>>109356777>OLED isn't as good as people make it.I love OLED on every single device that I have it, and I have it on a lot of shit, but I'm just too scared to get an OLED PC monitor.
>>109356746>1 game out of 9999 doesn't benefit from 3d vcache>"I fucking told you faggots that 3D cache was a meme!"Woman logic
>>109356747It's a 610mm2 GPU unlike the manlet 380mm2 ""5080""Of course it kicks ass
>>109356829I got one and I'm not impressed. Other than burn in the downsides are acceptable so far but the positives aren't as mind-blowing as some claim unless they only ran $100 monitors so far and now spend the first time more. If I had to choose I'd rather go back to 1080p than going up to 4k if you don't want 1440p. There are some upcoming 25" 1080p OLED upcoming but not sure if I can recommend them given the price from my own experience so far.
>>109356877>the positives aren't as mind-blowing as some claim unless they only ran $100 monitorsNo other panel technologies can do HDR and contrast like OLED.
>>109356889the 5 and 10% greys can look like pure shit on OLED. HDR they'd need to get their implementation fixed first out of the box instead of having to jump through all the extra hoops to make it run in most situations.
>>109356896>HDR they'd need to get their implementation fixed first out of the box instead of having to jump through all the extra hoops to make it run in most situations.Who is this "they"? The OLED Corporation?
>>109356901I don't care who fixes it. Most games don't support HDR natively
>>109356925It's not the fault of the panel technology that you have a shitty source.
>>109356769>Listening to gaming journ- corporate shillsWere you in hibernation the last 30 years?
>>109356935yea but what's the point of HDR if you cannot run in most of the times.
>>109356746>For the first time the popular 3D V Cache technology from AMD provided no performance gainBullshit, there were games were the 14900ks would beat the 5800x3d because of higher clocks, 3d cache shines in MMOs and other online games while some games just need 1 fast core and that's where Intel is king.
>>109354451>>109354561I can't even find used xtx locally at all and the new ones are more expensive than the one I bought on release. Hope it never dies.
>>109356759userbenchmark
>>109356540>cropped graphseems cherrypicked
>>109357347the only card that matters is just off the top edge there
>>109357347>seems cherrypickednV shizo would never do that, that's just slander.
>>109357396The 5090 lightning z?
>>109357475noooo you silly goose.
>>109357477Ah, you're thinking about the 5090 matrix right?
>>109275139& it's out of stock again. Guess consumer market is actually buying at high prices.
>>109357482ur cute anonny-chan.
>>109357405It is gamegpu - the numbers are made up anyway.
>>109356746>what GPU?>What resolution?Also, a game that came out more than two decades ago?
>>109357493>>109275139g.skill is way overhypedthere's no good reason why their 6000cl30-40-40 kits are often more expensive than competing brands' 6000cl28-36-36 kits and are still selling out
Ram coolers, meme or not? Especially when considering how AIOs have taken off.
>>109357709meme unless you're running four dimms and/or overclocking.
trying out games in 1080p again and it is honestly not bad looking at all while my fps is in the triple digits in every gamestarting to believe high end gaming is a scam
>>109357709Meme for sure if you're not doing anything insane with your RAM and have some airflow over the mobo from a front fan.
>>109357709That thing is a meme. 3D print one of those 3x 40mm mounts and get some 40mm noctuas.
>>109357709Great for ensuring stability if you have a 300-600W GPU with axial fans
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9wzHabIP4true rgb stripe 39" 5k2k ultrawide is here and it costs only $1100
>>109357735>high end gaming is a scamAlways was, im waiting on the 1080P Oled in Fall
>>109357612People here love nothing more than their established Taiwanese mafia companies.It's something to behold.
>>109357776>>109357779>WOLED memes
>>109357709I use one.It doesn't do much.
>>109357810Volumetric collapse is a feature.
>>109357709>>109357816anon >>109357765 is half right60mm is a meme since a single 120mm fan hung on top outperforms two 60mm fans and utterly destroys single 60mm ram coolers
>>109357776>same plastic stand as my 250$ AWkek
>>109357810there should be a qd version surely
>>109357810Sorry i want my display to not have a purple tint on it
>>109357872that was fixed since 4th gen qdoled and 5th gen is even better
>>109357872beats having mediocre panel uniformity and dirty screen artifacts
>that was fixedKek
>>109357906we know samsung tvs are shitwe're talking about monitors here
>>109357934Monitors are at least 2 generations behind TV panels.
>>109357934>monitorsThe panels used in flagship tvs cant even be compared to the ewaste they use on gaming monitors.
>>109357939not in the screen coating department though
>we’re talking about monitors here>you only showed bright conditions
>>109355340should I get this if I already got the wire view?
>its only samsung
>>109357982wireview pro 2 is good enough
>>109357939>>109357960Samsung are cheapskates and decided not to put the blackshield film on their tv's which is what the monitor manufactures started doing this year which reduces the purple tint and increases panel durability.
>>109357967>how do you like your image famlam?>just wash my shit out
>>109357967left looks too green right looks too red
>>109357991Surely you have some side by side comparisons showing blackshield film reducing this purple tint :)
>>109357991>still does nothing in bright rooms
>Nvidia offers more finewine than amd in 2026we got too cocky radeonbros...
>>109358024>anon doesn't know how to use a light switch
>>109354005isn't she gonna melt?
>OLED shills fighting each otherkek
>>109358042>qdoled anons can’t turn on their lights
In that same video btw
>>109358068that's the kind of comparison i was looking for, ty anon>t. lives on the sun
Ips doesnt have any of these problems
>>109358076right looks better but left looks completely usable, I have no idea why you two tards have to fight over a 5% difference in brightness
Do you think monitor/tv reviewers should even consider advertising LG anymoreIt seems kinda psychotic to shill their stuff to innocent consumers
>>109358088ips has the opposite problem where it looks bad in a dark room lol
>>109354005No filters on those fans, mrs catgirl is going to get bukakke'd with dust within a week
>>109358093There is no reason to exclude LG or even highlight what is an industry standard practice.
RGB-stripe oled panels will combine the best of woled and qdoled and it'll settle the debatehttps://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-wait
>>109358127I dont think theres much to improve anymoreif you got a recent qd oled 4k 240hz glossy you're not going to see a big jump in visual quality for the rest of your life
>>109358133the blue subpixel is still weak sauce and responsible for most of the heat, burn-in and brightness/power throttling so there's much to improve until they are able to do 1000 nits 100% APL
>sit on pcpartpicker making a pc>ends up being thousands of dollars >have the recurring realisation that i dont even really play video games anymore to warrant such a buildI think im just gonna get a used pc. I see rigs with 3080's in them going for around $1000 aud which is more than enough especially for 1080p
>>109358145you're not going to brose the internet with websites reaching 1k nits full whiteThe oled brightness and heat is more a bright living room issue at this point. You know, you need nits to overcome sunlight and since you may be 3m away the nits dont damage ur eyeballs
>>109358127Oled is just a stopgap until QDEL and microLED get off the ground.>two more weeks
>>109358154110-1000 nits is reserved for HDR content anonnobody's using their monitors at high brightness to browse the web
If you use more than 120 nits for SDR content you are doing it wrong.
>>109358157you're going to be like 80 years old when microled becomes a thing and qlel is vaporware
>>109357830>Volumetric collapse is a feature.>>109358127>RGB-stripe oled panels will combine the best of woled and qdoled and it'll settle the debateI am EXTREMELY interested in whether LG's new RGB Tandem panels will have the same issues with color volume or not compared to their WOLED models. Because they are still bottom emission I doubt they will do anything to improve banding and DSE though, sadly. Also curious about the color volume of the RGB panels from TCL CSOT.https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/msi-unveil-the-worlds-first-inkjet-printed-oled-monitor-in-their-pro-max-rangeTCL's 4K RGB panel is VESA DisplayHDR True Black 500 (300 nits fullscreen) but only ~120Hz, while LG"s 4K RGB panel is only VESA DisplayHDR True Black 400 (250 nits fullscreen) but is 240Hz. On paper TCL has the advantage over LG but for the slower TFT backplane which I think an OEM like ASUS could remedy.>>109358157>Oled is just a stopgap until QDEL and microLED get off the ground.Last I heard, Samsung has restarted QNED development to try and stay ahead of the onslaught of IJP RGB OLEDs the Chinese are about to unleash on the market:https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1773392979>According to a report by Korean newspaper ETNews, Samsung Display restarted QNED development in late 2025. The project had been paused in mid-2022 after multiple years of research due to challenges in aligning LEDs and achieving uniform light and color. QNED is similar to QD-OLED in that quantum dots convert blue light to red and green. The key difference is that QNED uses inorganic (nanorod) LEDs, whereas QD-OLED uses organic LEDs, i.e. OLED.Seems a lot closer to commercialization than QDEL which NanoSys has been pitching as coming "soon" for 1000 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9wzHabIP4Review of the cheap 1.1k$ rgb stripe monitorApparently the no-white sub pixel woled is practically equivalent to qd oled in color volume.
>>109358207The aw3926qw RGB woled review is outIts extremely similar to QDOLED in color brightness and grey uniformity. It's essentially a qdoled that's made by LG with Dell's qdoled-esque hdr tuning
Luv me trueblack HDR.
>>109358207good to see the chinese finally enter the market, hopefully soon we'll start seeing oleds around the $100 range.
Any global settings in nVidia App that I should change on a fresh setup with a 5070?
>>109358288https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j08cAZGMhTM
>>109358288Set a global framerate cap if you don't have rtssIt should be set to 0.25 milliseconds below your displays' native refresh rate e.g. 226hz for a 240hz display, 158hz for a 165hz display, etc.
>>109357735>1080p>not bad looking at all True and all you need to do is buy a decent gpu every 6-8 years to maintain it
>>109358288uninstall and use nvcleaninstall instead
>Never had a PC>Decide to finally get one>Spend weeks learning components >Decide what build to make + peripherals>Add everything on Amazon cart >€2800Guess I'll just buy a PS5 then
How much does REC2020 coverage actually matter? Assuming content consumption rather than creation.
>>109358288>nVidia App
Rest of my components arrived today. Gonna be busy this weekend.
>>109358341Well Tranon you did choose literally the worst time ever to buy a PC.But don't worry. It'll be worse tomorrow.
>>109358354It doesn't matter since nothing uses it
>>109358288In the graphics -> global settings set max frame rate to 300, or whatever that exceeds ur monitor.Check the system-> video tab for video enhancements. The hdr is useful if you got oled monitor.Be careful with the game optimization settings since they can reset adjustments you make manually each time you launch a game.
>>109358354Only really matters if you're watching high quality HVEC. Most people are watching garbage compressed AV1 or VP8.
>>109358393s-specs...?
>>109358444Intel Core Ultra 5 250K PlusThermalright Peerless Assassin 140MSI PRO Z890-P WIFICrucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TBWestern Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TBbe quiet! Dark Power 14 850 W
>>109358460very nice rig but no gpu?
>>109358234>The aw3926qw RGB woled review is out>Its extremely similar to QDOLED in color brightness and grey uniformity. It's essentially a qdoled that's made by LG with Dell's qdoled-esque hdr tuning>>109358227>>109358227>Review of the cheap 1.1k$ rgb stripe monitor>Apparently the no-white sub pixel woled is practically equivalent to qd oled in color volume.>>109358207 HereGreat thanks! The important key comparison here is against the Alienware AW3426DW I highlighted here as that's using Samsung's new rival RGB V-Stripe Panel, nice to see LG's version is competitive (if still a std. deviation worse) with it terms of color gamut and color volume. Also nice that panel uniformity is significantly better than all of the non-RGB WOLEDs released to date assuming HUBTim didn't get a golden sample and again competitive (but slightly worse) than QD-OLED. It really goes to show how much a blight the White Subpixel LG foisted on everyone in the market as been for image quality all this time.
>>109358479Nope. It's my new home server. In addition to those, it's gonna have a whole bunch of spinning rust in it though.
>>109358354Rec2020 is a container for other smaller colorspaces like sRGB and the ARGB (and even it's still 25% smaller than all of the colors in visible spectrum light to human eyes).For content consumption, nothing is actually mastered to use all of the available color coordinates it has, instead simply look at how much of the DCI-P3 gamut is advertised as being covered by a monitor as that's the colorspace 4K/HDR content is mastered in (~most self-respecting models can get to ~95-99% coverage these days). What matters more is color volume and contrast which only OLED and to a far lesser extent MiniLED can deliver on.
From 1 to 10 what are the chances of a RAM stick exploding after changing it to it's max speed?
>>109358771it might result in a no-boot if your motherboard or cpu can't handle the speed, then you'll have to clear CMOSsilicon only explodes if you overvolt it without any power limits/cooling in place
>>109358771RAM fails from temperature and it won't get high temperature if it crashes before it hits the BIOS.
>>109358398>the worst time everAre you implying it won't any get worse than this? Doubt.jpg
If I buy a 240mm AIO can I later replace the radiator for a 360mm one?
>>109358822Reading comprehension failed.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/amd-calls-cuda-a-non-event-says-companies-are-programming-at-levels-where-the-nvidia-tech-doesnt-really-matter/Someone finally said it. Cuda is being questioned.
>>109356877100% this, you just have to go to a TV store and notice how every cheap TV is playing the news or footy from some sheite 720p source, while the expensive models get the honey dripping deep blacks UHD meme video, so people don't notice the cheaper ones look pretty much identical in a well lit environment.
>>109358833Not in practical terms. If you want to do that an open loop is the way to go but lmao the cost.
I dare you to post a more beautiful case, I fucking dare you, asshole, protip: you fucking can'thttps://youtu.be/d9pvpvP9WRg
>>109358877Nvidia's biggest customers are telling us that code is cheap now anyway. Migrating from CUDA just means burning some hundred dollars on tokens.
>Ordered HDD a week ago>check status>delayed for literally two weeksI fucking hate AI
>>109356540Devs fault for not implementing FSR.
>>109358892>cube :|>cube - brand :O
>>109358892fractal torrent is the best looking case ever made(and it's not because I own one)
>>109358892>9 10Uhhh what happens on 9 11?
>>109358892nah the best case is a cardboard box I stole from a homeless person
>>109354534>>109358877
>>109358892Fractal Design Define 7Fractal Design NorthFractal Design TorrentHAVN BF 360Jonsbo N5Lian Li A3-mATX Wood Edition
>>109358892
>>109358934>chinesium version of caselabs
>>109358934God damn this bitch is ugly.
>>109358934Price?
>>109358934Bees LOVE this case
>>109358934Drive bays should've been hotswap.
>>109358957That's what the 5.25 bays are for
>>109358965This case is way too big to just settle for those as HDD bays.
Leila is so fucking cute, I fucking love her, she's this thread's darling now, I demand you post pictures of herhttps://youtu.be/4Cqygh4JlAg
>>109356343>>109356541Don't go under tFAW 32 with those memory sticks, these are the recommended minimums.tRRD_S 8tWTR_S 4tFAW 32Setting tFAW to 24 or 20 shrinks the logical page target to roughly 768B or 640B from the intended 1KB DRAM page size.Memory benchmarks don't strictly demand a full 1KB DRAM page size and falsely appear performant.tFAW 20 or 24 creates hidden pipeline stalls and degrades real-world performance by violating the physical page architecture.Truncating your DRAM page size to 640B or 768B (tFAW 20 or 24) means the memory subsystem can deliver misaligned data blocks to the L3 cache.https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1470#post-29475693People think tFAW 20, 24, or 16 (Intel) is fine because stress tests don't report any errors.These stress tests detect bit-flips and signal integrity errors, not hardware wait-states or firmware overrides.
will am6 be backwards compatible with am5 processors?
>>109359254No.
>>109359276:(
>>109359254zen6 and zen7 are on am5zen8 and later will be on am6
>>109359282am6 won't be out until 2030 stop worrying
>>109359289:D>>109359297D:
If two cases have the same fans, in the same orientations, but they have different volumes, why does the larger one (usually) achieve better temps? I'm a dumb physicslet but it seems to me that if intake airflow is equal to the exhaust, the space inbetween the fans shouldn't matter.
ChatGPT recommended 9600x and 9070 XT for my new build for my current needs.. you think CGPT was right?
>>109359379Your components do what's called heat transfer and bigger room has more space for heat to you know transfer instead of sitting there.
Zen 7 might use DDR6 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-zen-7-epyc-florence-and-instinct-mi600-for-2028-zen-8-ravenna-follows-in-2030
>>109359466>epyc
>>109359282>>109359359ur so cute!!! OMG i wanna bite you
>>109359466MRdimm is just fancy dual rank memory, lpddr is standard mobile memory.
>>109359471Isn’t ryzen basically cut down and cucked epyc
>>109359496They use the same ccd microarchitecture, the similaraties stop there
>>109359496they shared* the same ccds but not the IOD so they're memory technology agnostic*zen6 will split the consumer and epyc lineups into their own frequency optimized and density optimized ccds
>>109359428You need to be more specific about your needs (gaming resolution, gaming preference like high fps in competitive shooters, budget).
Black or white build?
>>109359543full white with black gpu
>>1093595301440p gayming, don't care about 200+ fps for competitive games, 1600~ USD budget, prefer to get an AM5 platform so i can upgrade later if need to. I also do dabble in programming and local AI stuff sometimes
Alienware or Razer?
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, everything I plug my peripherals in they lag or do multiple inputs.Tried a usb hub, the black usb ports on the back, the red or blue usb ports on the back. Only thing that seems consistent is the front i/o but those are pretty much already full of dongles.
99% chance FSR4 and PSSR are just distilled from Nvidia's models
>>109359574If you can build a 9070 XT AM5 PC with that budget today, you're doing something right.>I also do dabble in programming and local AI stuff sometimesFind ROCm resources.https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/rocm-hub/ai-local-development.html
>>109359656That would be dumb, even Intel can train their own XeSS models.
7800X3D+9070 XT at 2k, will it bottleneck?
>>109359474cuteness aggression?
>>109354363Air coolers look great. AIO feel so incomplete to me, very unnatural.
>>109359496Not anymore, starting with zen6 they will use different ccd's on different tsmc nodes, that's why Epyc is coming out first since regular N2 is ready to ship.
>>109359759What? It's literally the opposite, zoomerfaggot.
>>1093597149800X3D & 9850X3D should be slightly better, not worth the +$100 premium unless you have fun OCing the CPU.There isn't too much performance to gain from OC, it's more for the love of the game™ thing.
>>109359759Water cooling is more naturalYour body is literally water cooled
>>109354005>Arctic P12 ProDid anybody ever test these? I can't fond anything. I have the regular P12 and they make annoying sounds at low RPM
>>109359759>>109359806>>109359847It's always funny when faggots watercool their 65W CPUs (with a 360 rad or bigger kek) but their 600W GPU is stock air cooled
>>109359879Set fans to 100%.
>>109359928CPUs have like 5x the heat flux/density of GPUs and benefit greatly from watercoolers which can handle this really well
>>109359928People are scared to put on a waterblock
>>109359928The CPU is the brain and the brain works faster when it's hydrated instead of dehydrated.
>>109359982600W > 65WDon't reply to me, retard
Anybody got any good portable mATX cases that can fit an astral 5090?Think I'm going to prepare to travel with my build for the holidays so I can game with my cousins
>>109360023Please show me a GPU made in the last 10 years that throttles itself because of le stock air cooling
8 months later I still haven't found a monitor I like My beautiful new PC is using a monitor from 2015
>>109359982retard
>>109360078Every single one because boost frequencies are dynamic
>>109360078RTX 3090
>>109359982It's the opposite of really well.The only thing an AIO provides is a slightly cooler cold plate, which does help heat transfer but the system in general is not working very efficiently.A 360mm radiator should be capable of 300-400w of dissipation if the heat actually makes it to the water but good luck actually cooling a CPU of that wattage.
>>109354230SOVL
>>109360102retard
>>109360110>but good luck actually cooling a CPU of that wattage.To be fair this is why epyc in particular can be pushed to absurd power draw because the silicon footprint is massive.
>>109360110Well how am I going to cool 474W Nova Lake? AIO companies are finally gonna have to innovate and not just add more screens to them
Been waiting for prices to drop since February
>>109360123Same
>>109360125You buy a real brand and not a dead one.
>>109360125AIO companies can't really do shit - the core of the problem is 1) modern cpus are tiny, so lmao fuck your surface area and 2) they have a nice be fat IHS in the way which is killing thermal transfer. That is why delidding see such massive gains in cooling as you are effectively cooling the bare metal as it were.
>>109360139Why can't they just make the CPUs bigger? Threadrippers have huge sockets
About to buy some ram for my PC> 32GB DDR4 (2x16)Should I get 3200 CL16 or 3600 CL 16? Price difference is negligible. Also wondering if I should splurge and get 64GB with 4x16. Total price is like 440 bucks, which I don't necessarily need but can probably afford.
>>109360150If you aren't doing AI then 64 is overkill
32GB is bare minimum now, if you want to start doing cool shit or work stuff you really need 64GB minimum. I was lucky to get the 32GB for still cheap but man I wish I had 64GB.
>>109360147CPUs are impatient and having shit physically further away to increase surface area hurts performance - that is the achilles' heel of MCM like designs. It works most of the time for threadripper and epyc because of their expected use case but for a desktop you'd just murder performance for no real gain.
I'd rather have 20 Intel cores for $400 than 8 Ryzen cores for the same price but that's just me
how has it gone up again wtf there's no way people are paying this for that
>>109360147The problem is running cores at breakneck frequencies.It creates so much heat in a tiny space of silicon that conventional IHS designs and coolers cannot conduct the heat fast enough to stop the silicon from hitting it's temp threshold.
Anyone uses openrgb here? Any idea what am I missing why cpu temp is missing from my selection here?
>>109360185I got this in December cause I had a bad feeling about itMy GPU exploded 1 week after I put in the order, and 1 month afterwards price had more than doubled. I was very lucky.
>>109360183You're never going to use 8 cores let alone 20
>>109360078This guy >>109360102 is right though.Watercooled GPUs will boost higher because it runs cooler and more power efficiently (less current leakage/wasted heat).https://youtu.be/JjeZ-oaROQM?t=761
>>109360185Plebbitors spending 4k for a PC valued 2k
>>109360213You can just power limit to reduce heat for no performance hit.
>>109355444Under gets more dust but on top is unsightly. I hate dust more.
>>109360202I can tell games to use those unused cores exclusively while freeing up cores 1-8 for the OS or anything else
>>109360234What's the point unless you're streaming
So does 3200 MHz vs 3600 MHz matter at all?
>>109360274no
>>109360248The game becomes unbelievably smooth when it's put on cores that have no ipc/dpc going on. You can't do that when you have little cores.
>>109360274depends on what you define at allif its more than 4% then no
>>109360280Any tutorial on how to do that
My only hope is Black Friday will be good again this year Last year was great for everything except RAM
Well, I've been fucking around with an AE-9 sound card, because I don't know, I was feeling nostalgic I guess, and I'm so close to returning it because it really isn't that much better than just having a separate DAC and XLR input daisy chain, but man, the Scout mode IS useful for enemy Spies in TF2. Still, it was expensive and I still needed a microphone inline pre-amp for the XLR input.Also, I was excited for my motherboard to have Bluetooth finally, only to learn that they only have drivers for Windows 11... I really, really don't wanna install Windows 11.
>>109360147>Why can't they just make the CPUs bigger?A larger chips fucks up the economics of the product, there's a higher defect rate with larger, monolithic chips.AMD and Intel are breaking down CPUs into die/tile sets as a cost optimization measure, not every piece of the CPU needs to be on the best node due to silicon density scaling issues.The thermal density of these compute die/tile makes newer chips harder to cool (with the IHS to consider).
>>109360218They probs misunderstood the meaning of> 4k gaming
>>109360339What mobo is it. Lots of these mobos claim they only support windows 11 for BT/Wifi and it's BS most of the time.Unless it's wifi 7, that really does only work on windows 11.
>>109360395and even if its a wifi 7 + BT module you can generally get the BT driver for W10 if you only need BT
>>109357735>>109358318or you could do 4k + integer downscaling to 1080p with the appropriate monitorthis way, you only need 1080p-ready computer specs and get to enjoy 4K in non-demanding tasks
Oled tvs were very clearly not meant for desktop use. Yes for gaming but no for anything else. This shit is retaining program menus after <= 30 minutes of use. I should have never got taking into it by you fucks.
>>109360582TVs are primarily for watching tv with the familyId save an oled one primarily for gaming and watching anime
>>109360582Which oled?
Is "Netac" memory good? I know memory brands aren't super important and going under 200 bucks will save me around $50 in shipping and taxes. https://www.amazon.com/Netac-Kit16GBx2-PC4-25600-Upgraded-Aluminum/dp/B0D6YTMVT6/ref=sr_1_6?c=ts&s=pc&sr=1-6&ts_id=172500
>>109360610S90H 42inch
found my old speccy
>>109360699>virtual clone drivebrings me back
>>109355833MicroRGB are just smaller different colored LEDs, it's good but not as good as OLED which are individual pixels. MicroRGB is only being pushed as a stopgap until MicroLED becomes economically viable. OLED has issues, it will always have issues, everything has issues. All issues are exaggerated and will not affect the majority of users. If you need something to display a static image permanently or don't want to think about it just get LED. If you want the best image get OLED. I got OLED for my TV and I have an old LCD for my desktop. I'm just waiting for MicroLED and I like OLED better. Backlights are lame, individual pixels are cool.
>>109359060veii is a gigaschizo and anything he says can be safely ignoredL3 cachelines are 64B, it's physically impossible for the memory to deliver "misaligned data blocks" to the cachethe reason you don't really see any benefit going below 32 is because it would be very rare for the IMC to issue four ACT commands back-to-back without also doing four READ commands back-to-back (which are restricted to a minimum of 32 cycles on DDR5, since each read burst is 8 cycles)
>>109360395ROG Crosshair X870E Glacial. I can't even find official Wi-Fi drivers on their site, so I dunno. It might not be the latest or the greatest, but until (if) Microsoft ever fixes Windows 11, I'm not moving to it.Now all that's left is to decide if I'm really missing anything by returning this Sound card and going for a more standard setup. I would assume no but it's not even like it's a bad quality sound card, and I do like the cable management all going to the module I can put on my desktop.
>>109360615idk its probably fine
Can confirm that Noctua has nicer mounting hardware than Thermalright.
>>109361397You're telling me plastic backplates aren't state of the art?
>>109360133Don't worry, you'll be waiting next February too.
>>109360312>My only hope is Black Friday will be good again this yearIf I had to bet money on it, I'd bet "no".
>>109361203>I'm just waiting for MicroLEDWhat would you like carved on your tombstone?
>>109360185> (incl. VAT)includes Voluminous Asus Tax
for the longest time I was stumped on why the fuck my AM5 machine feels so slow compared to my AM4 machine and it turns out its the ethernet setting "Interrupt Moderation" hidden in the network driver.
>>109361528realtek LAN uses like 15% CPU downloading a file, that's the real reasonswitch to intel LAN
>>109360164You already need more than 32GB for certain games.Like Cities Skylines with all DLC and a few mods.MS Flight Sim also benefits from more than 32GB.You could get away with 48GB but for how long?
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So... I just have no options in building a new PC unless I use ddr3
>>109361690Have you tried getting a job?
>>109360185We live in a society.
Chrome is using 3GB of RAM.Steam is using 500MB of RAM.What the fuck is using the other 10GB?Does Windows really eat up that much?
What's the state of (game) software support for 21:9 monitors nowadays? Is 3440x1440 getting reasonably wide adoption as of yet? How is it looking in the indie space vs AAA?
>>109361938bro, we still have 1080p and 16.9 as the standard with 4k being a meme and 1440p being possible only due to current hardware power and the one, somewhat, accessible
Working is largely a humiliation ritual. I was at walmart yesterday grocery shopping and I overheard two wagies who had just gotten off their shift at that Walmart and they were grocery shopping and talking about how much of a pain it was to put back a cart that was all the way across the parking lot. You can't make it up. Literally just gamble on shitcoins it's less self degrading than working.Anyway, if you want a computer I heavily suggest just keeping what you have and just trying to find games that run well on your hardware. Have you played Hades 1 and or 2? They are decent enough and should run. You can get thousands of hours from indie games. Go play Terraria.But yeah, just wait for technology to get better, that's what I'm doing. The budget tech of tomorrow will effectively be a supercomputer if you understand how technology is constantly evolving. You don't need more, you need patience
>>109362127Computers?
>>109362183we are all one consciousness. im finna go get me some mcdicks. (mcdonalds.) finna get me that spicy crispy chicken with the special sauce.wish my mom would let me buy weed edibles. i live with her and she wont let me use edibles im a 26 yr old man. i miss using substances.but yeah we're all one consciousness
>>109362203Have fun eating some dicks.
Would it be cheaper to stack up dollar bills to look like a PC case, or build an actual computer?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9BGW9K>PNY GeForce RTX™ 5060 8GB Overclocked Dual Fan GPU DLSS 4plan to underclock this when i get it. is it an OK GPU? i game a little, mostly need it for work purposes.
>>109362381"n-noooo you dont get it bro i need to consoom i just need to!"
New build starting to come together. I shall continue on it tomorrow.
>>109361938Chronicles of Riddick had ultra wide support 2 decades ago. There's no excuse for modern games not supporting it.
>>109361484>What would you like carved on your tombstone?>two more weeks
>ssd is starting to lag>take a look at ssds>they're all over $100 for 1tbI thought you fags said this shit was gonna be cheaper than hdd?
I simply schizophrenically change tabs so often that nothing ever burns in on my QD-OLED. Also my condo is pretty cool to begin with. I've left Twitch on for hours and hours and nothing ever burned in, even with chat enabled.
I'm holding out for fat RDNA5.
whats the budget vr headset to go nowdays? i was planning to buy the steam one but it was way too expensive and maybe doesnt hold up today? idk
>>109362558Don't worry, HDDs are also more expensive now!
>>109354005Anyone using their motherboard audio still on AMD ? Trying to use my motherboard's line out and this shit is way too fucking loud and I can barely turn up the physical preamp at all without clipping everything downstream. I tried with two different devices and this shit is way too hot on both. Any way to actually make it into a -fixed- proper line out level ?
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