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What the hell happened to smartphone cameras? My S8 unironically takes better looking photos than my S25.
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>Native american vision enabled
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>>109354580
it's ai enhancements, the lens & shit is too small to be doing zoom that good
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>>109354580
>>109354617
Yeah wide angle lenses are alright especially in good lighting conditions.
But telephoto requires much larger lenses to be good there is just no way around it.
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>>109354580
It doesn't
and if it does the fault as usual lies with the user
and if doesn't there does exist a workarou d you would've used instead of making this thread were you not a technologically illiterate retard who needs every feature delivered on a silver platter but also to cry about computational photography
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>>109354580
The best camera I ever had was a Nokia Windows 8 phone.
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>>109354654
>if you aren't okay with eating the same AI goyslop as me you must be an illiterate retard
israel's strongest soldier
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>>109354580
I've had the telephoto on my pixel 10 pro change the titles on the spines of books.
My 8 took better pictures simply because it also exported better .raw files.
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>>109354580
ai abuse.

i may have seen something on >>>/p/ about this at one point. im not sure. or i may have seen it somewhere else as well.
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>>109354580
They want to make it impossible for people to use their phones to photograph or record sensitive subjects.
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>>109354580
Luckily, it gets worse.
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>>109354604
fpbp
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>>109354580
This is intentional because Chang has drones that look birds. They don't want your camera to be able to tell the difference.
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>>109354817
There, context window is somewhere around 20 tokens and anything past that is babble. Non-thinking agents cannot be trusted with intricate instruments like phone cameras
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>>109355067
Take your meds sanjay
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HODLMUP
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>>109354580
"""Computational photography""" happened.
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>>109354580
Phone cameras now have build in Ai processing that you cant disable. Tried everything but photos still have ai artifacts.
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>>109356391
There's apps out there that don't use the built in processing, like Halide on iOS (there's Android equivalents but I don't know them)
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>>109354580
Excessive postprocessing and now AI.
At some point they decided that rather than presenting badly taken photo for what it really is, they would rather just make shit up to appease the retards who complain and refuse to learn better. And that control has been cranked up with every new release since.
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>>109354580
same reason why googling phone with best slomo gives you shit results

the people in power are luddites, like elon musk
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>>109355043
there was some video of someone taking a pic of a round light fixture and the AI applying the moon texture to it lmao
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>>109356430
No, what they decided was to use every single photo everyone takes to train a glowie AI model to look for kompromat and theirs to generate realistic human-looking faces and hands.
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>>109356409
ahndroid can use opencamera or simple camera (fdroid version).
clanker tongue my anus
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Photographs are not reliable evidence of anything,
due to post-processesing,
unless we need them to be evidence,
in which case they can be evidence of anything,
due to our post-processesing.
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>>109354580
Sony would never do this
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>>109356391
This, every phone newer than the Samsung S9 and S10 that I've tested adds AI slop artifacts to photos. It's disgusting, which is why I still use my S9 for quick pics and bought a Snoy camera.
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>>109356647
cameras are the proof phones are just npc monetary abuse. why the fuck would anybody spend $1k+ on something that takes trash pics? and then (((upgrade))) to something worse 10 months later
these older phones that take good undoctored pics are proof they have the tech and it should be improving
but it not
and it aint even getting better
and itll continue to get worse as they fire all the real men that worked in r&d
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>>109356554
For the longest time polaroids were still the standard in forensics because they're hard to fake
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>>109356647
Everyone tells me they have to have a smartphone so they can use the camera when they need to take a picture. What's the point if it will just hallucinate?

Every time I think "maybe I'm being a little too extreme with the minimalism and should buy some consumer slop" I check in on what everyone's doing and it's worse than I remember.
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>>109354580
It's because the cameras are very good.
Too good.
You can see a lot of things very far away with clear quality. And a lot of things you aren't supposed to see.
Buy a blackberry and watch some youtube videos through it's camera.
Oh...and for some strange reason every single modern camera has a png of the moon that shows up when you try to look at the moon with it's camera. Quite strange.
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>>109354631
>wide angle lenses are alright especially in good lighting conditions.
A literal hole in a wall is alright in good lighting conditions.
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surely you mean "ironically". the irony being that a much older device takes better pictures than a newer one. why say the opposite of what you mean???
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>>109354867
it's not the "telephoto lens" or your device doing these things. it's the OEM slop that you're running on your hardware. it's on the same level as complaining about ads on Windows Goyslop Edition.
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>>109354580
stop using first-party camera apps
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You dont need AI for everything
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>>109354790
Technology peaked in the early 2010s and it's been downhill ever since.
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>>109357634
yes i do
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>>109354580
It doesn't matter what camera "thinks". It shouldn't change the image. What's the point?
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>>109356857
what I was driving at is it's more present in the telephoto lenses as they claim massive zoom, but they'll turn a tortilla on the window into the moon.
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>real photos will be indistinguishable from AI slop thanks to forced AI filters
How convenient...
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>>109354580
I have AI fatigue
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>>109356741
Uh elaborate please
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>>109354790
>>109357690
1020 gang.

I'd be very happy with a modern smartphone that had a single large sensor instead of the tryptophobia mass of useless lenses with sensors smaller than my pinky toenail.
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>>109356721
>Every time I think "maybe I'm being a little too extreme with the minimalism and should buy some consumer slop" I check in on what everyone's doing and it's worse than I remember.
Same. I'm tired of it.
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>>109355545
Does that happen with license plates?
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well, that is fucking embarrassing
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>>109354580
my old iphone 8 plus made better pictures than my iphone 16.
while the tech gets more expensive it gets also worse
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>>109357902
it's not the fucking lenses though you humongous faggot. it's your slop software doing slop things. just like it's not the fault of the front lens for making you look like you suck cocks.
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>>109359322
What would it feel like if you didn't have breakfast today?
When did I say it was the lens, you mongoloid?
The newer phones claim higher and higher values on the telephoto zoom, while the sensor itself gets smaller and they make up for it with post processing.
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my phone just has a check box that disables ai enhancements.
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Everything must be fake and gay.
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>>109354654
>It's OK if my phone doesn't take accurate pictures because... .fuck you huawei needs that extra billy
ok rabbi
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>>109356857
>"windows just works"
>buy windows laptop
>uhmm actually you need to download and install Windows 10 Commercial Edition Pro Max 2022.AN.US and run this random kms script
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>>109355545
Someone explain this to me?
In theory these phones are able to recognize text and in theory they try to sharpen the text and make it more legible.
So, why this happens?
Phone identifies that it's text there, why it distorts the letter and creates nonsense?
I'm not talking just about pic related, I'm talking in general.

I have a motophone and I can text it on some small text in the distance.
It's able to understand it's seeing text and tries to straighten the paragraph, but the letters itself it turns into nonsense.
I don't see the logic.
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>>109360916
the modern humanoid is barely literate. they can only parse information via short visual bursts (see yt shorts) so bodies of text are valueless to them except for the aesthetic representation. therefore as long as words look like words from a glance it must be good so the esl monkeys writing the code adjust accordingly
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Looks like chicken. I'm hungry.
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>>109361059
I mean, it would be legible if the camera did nothing, but the camera intentionally seeks text to make it unintelligible.
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>>109354580
in old cameras if you were too far, then you couldn't see it. it was just a blurry vague blob on your image because smartphones cannot actually be a telescope/binoculars for you, so you just didn't have the picture if your subject is too far away
sensors have gotten better SNR and higher resolution but the glass is the same when you're trying to fit into the size of a smartphone

people need to buy new phones every year though, so generating something is a selling point vs a blurry mess when you try to zoom into a jpeg 100x instead of getting closer to your subject
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>>109354580
They took the technology to its consumer level limits, then started doing it cheaper to save money and tried to pretend the cameras were still getting better with software bullshit.
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>>109358440
Wow, no answer.
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>>109367043
>what is Level of detail



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