>>109354954
Teamspeak 6 looks modern as fuck.
You're just retarded.
Stay on discord where you belong.

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>>109354954
Try Legcord, it's what I use
https://legcord.app/

>>109355055
I didn't like it. Sorry if you live there or something.

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>>109354954
It's new but i was on last night and it's pretty cool and it has end to end encryption.
Sloga.gg

>>109354954
Define "assfucked garbage". I use signal and XMPP. Yes, my family is on it too.
>>109355098
If you're not willing to make compromises because you've imprinted on Discord or whatever, then stay there and be quiet. No one gives a damn what you use, or your problems with it.

TeamSpeak 3 for normal people.
Fluxer for Discord-addled zoomers who want a new flavour.

>>109355115
>Yes, my family is on it too.
Why would you make them go through your autism?

>>109355130
We are all paranoid, know about snowden etc., it wasn't some Sisyphean task. My solution won't work for your use case. Good luck out there!

>>109354954
Matrix. I'm not memeing, it's great.

>>109354954
Screaming at my neighbors from my balcony

>>109355178
>Matrix. I'm not memeing, it's great.
No it isn't. It fucking sucks

t. hosted a public instance for years and tried every front end and backend that existed at the time.

>>109355151
>>109355115
>forced to keep Whatscrapp on my phone to communicate with family
>mom continues to call me via whatsapp forcing me to have a painful voice conversation with what feels like a 2 second delay
i'm jealous

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>>109355112
it literally doesnt, i looked at websocket and all my messages are sent as plaintext

>>109355286
That's correct if you are using a browser version which has a weak websocket. If you download the windows or linux version you have to opt in for e2ee. The encryption is double ratchet mls.

>>109355282
Yeah sorry that's lame. My family is in a big signal GC. I have other signal GCs for friends and coworkers.

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>>109355286

>>109355333
>>109355392
assfucked garbage. what the actual fuck is a "weak websocket" do you think im fucking retarded

>>109355468
I do.

>>109355074
Anon, that's still Discord just a different front-end.

There is Fluxer, which is going for a 1:1 Discord type experience but also pledges to support self-hosted instances: https://fluxer.app/

>>109355529
Who are you trying trying to convince?

>>109355115
>and XMPP
No need to lie.
No one has ever used any XMPP client for more than an hour.
They all fucking SUCK.

Just swap to Slack, then you can still chat with them while at work

>>109355529
I know, it's just Discord without the *complete* spying on you thing, plus it's lighter on resources and faster

>>109355261
Skill issue. You can't blame an entire platform for your own incompetence.

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>>109354954
literally nothing on a scale bigger than your friend circle
you're fucked, discord can implement annoying pop up message begging for money every 2 hours and people would still use it
>stoat/fluxer
I recommend you browse their server selection before installing it, that should tell you everything

>>109354954
You can make a replacement easily—with AI.

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I'm using Fluxer with some friends who I convinced to mig. It's alright. Everything works so far but there are still some hiccups, mainly the mobile app: It is still in Beta (just released) and not very good.

>>109354954
IRC

>>109356108
they did and it's called fluxer retard

>>109355074
He wanted discord alternatives

https://github.com/azc5OQ/lemon-chat

>>109356109
i just read their roadmap and a couple of the blogposts.

it seems that it is better than discord in its mission, but will still be at the mercy of jurisdictions where age verification is required. there also isn't E2EE yet, because :

"Most people want a Discord alternative they can use day to day: fast clients, search, profiles and statuses, custom emoji, roles and permissions, voice and video, and moderation tools. That's where Fluxer's priorities lie. Adding E2EE to text messaging adds real complexity, especially around search, moderation, history, recovery, and multi-device sync.

Optional E2EE still belongs in the roadmap for personal notes, calendar data, DMs, and small groups. E2EE for large communities is out of scope."

this reads as "it's too hard and we want to focus on front end implementations first". fluxer clearly cares more about privacy than discord, but it doesn't strike me as "privacy focused".

>>109354954
Steam chat

>>109354954
>yet another thread of a discord tranny coping
everybody already left discord years ago.
Get fucked, troon

>>109354954
>Install vscode
>Build me a multi platform chat API and client
>No, no, more anime and tranny imagery
>Oops, forgot to implement age guards for the first year
profit

>>109355122
this
we switched to teamspeak for our WoW raids because discord is shit and gay but Fluxer is a pretty good alternative and we are talking about it.

>>109357837
They are "right" to focus on front-end first because that's what most people care about primarily. Even those switching from discord.
We already have tons of super private E2EE chats that nobody uses because their front sucks.
Personally I couldn't care less about larger communities E2EE, in fact, I hope those all fucking die.
But yes, my stance with Fluxer is careful optimism. They need to properly open source all their projects, but even without E2EE (which don't get me wrong, is something I REALLY want) it already beats >Discord.

>>109358448
i agree with you, if the front end sucks, good luck with adoption. and yes, fluxer already looks far superior to discord. i just hope E2EE for small communities and DMs is being highly prioritised, as opposed to being a vague and distant "nice to have" feature. the roadmap doesn't make this clear imo

>>109358448
im not sure people who are actively looking for a discord alternative are particularly looking for a better front end implementation. usually people want better privacy, while making front end compromises

>>109358597
They want both. Front is the biggest hurdle because without it you can't convince your retarded friends to migrate. Doesn't have to be better than Discord, just parity or close to.

>>109358737
>Front is the biggest hurdle because without it you can't convince your retarded friends to migrate.

can't argue with that unfortunately. fucking nigger monkeys man

>>109354954
>alot
You deserve no help.

>>109354954
The answer has been and always will be Internet Relay Chat.

>>109355539
>>109356109
>>109356234
Buy an ad, you stupid jeets.

>>109358054
this, unironically

>>109355151
>snowden etc
i dont think you really understand how comped absolutely everything you touch is, bugdoors and hardware. You have never had any privacy. What's the point of all that encryption if they can just screenshot your phone whenever they want and watch you through your phone cam in real time?

>>109354954
You don't get it, do you?

Discord is so priced in that if it falls, everyone on it will just move to the next platform. It will be Discord in all but name.

>>109354954
Fluxxer? More like Groomer

2.1 LGBTQ+ specific protections. Fluxer is and will remain a safe and affirming place for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual, and all other gender and sexual minority (LGBTQ+) users. The following are prohibited as forms of hate speech.
Targeted misgendering and deadnaming. Deliberately and repeatedly referring to a person by a gender, name, or pronouns that do not align with their gender identity, after being informed of, or having reasonable access to, their correct name or pronouns. This includes using someone's birth name ("deadname") against their wishes to harass, demean, or invalidate their identity. This rule targets deliberate, repeated behaviour; honest mistakes corrected when informed are not violations.
Denial of identity. Content that denies the existence or validity of transgender, nonbinary, intersex, or other gender identities, or of sexual orientations, when directed at or about specific individuals or used to advocate for discrimination. This includes claims that being transgender is a mental illness, a delusion, or a choice that can be "cured".
Conversion therapy advocacy. Promoting, advertising, or providing instructions for conversion therapy or any practice that attempts to change a person's sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including content that frames such practices as legitimate medical treatment, spiritual guidance, or parental responsibility.
Sexualisation and fetishisation. Reducing LGBTQ+ people to their sexual orientation or gender identity in a degrading or objectifying way, or treating LGBTQ+ identities as inherently sexual, deviant, or predatory.
2.2 Gender-affirming healthcare discussions. Access to gender-affirming healthcare is especially important to transgender, nonbinary, and intersex people. There is a clear line between protected discussion and prohibited content.

>>109358550
does fluxer have community servers like on discord? I mostly use a javascript and a typescript server to talk with people about stuff

>>109355055
TS6 is a regression in literally every way compared to TS3.
>bb-b-b-but muh pisscord
Oh yeah let me switch to the failed discord wannabe to ... get away from discord.

>>109358737
Then their approach is frankly terminally retarded. If you want to appeal to normalfags you've already failed because normalfags are not looking to migrate from Discord no matter what they say. People have been complaining about how shit Discord is from the day it launched, doesn't stop them from continuing to use it.
Anyone already looking to leave Discord is likely doing so out of privacy concerns and at that point they'll see no E2EE and figure they might as well stay on discord.
Anyone who knows what they are doing see no E2EE and writes it off.

>>109359877
this. discord has won. you can use other stuff if you dont care about whatever is on discord, but as soon as you do want something thats on there, guess what? youll be downloading and using it. it has won until it dies, if it dies. its also true that the company has been profit negative since its existence, and still is. but as the guy im replying to julst said, itll be replaced instantly by something that is basically the same thing. discord will continue to be the winner until someone builds something just as good and easy, and free, and oss, and everything else - AND after discord dies. only then could something even drastically better be considered by usual discord users. thats just how humanity is. if you think im wrong, youre def under 30 years old

my suggestion? just use discord

>>109360045
>yes, i have privacy concerns
>but i stay on discord, which scans my messages, because others E2EE isn't perfect
Anybody who thinks like this deserves the rope.
And i dont think such person even exists. If anything, that argument is used in a very dishonest lying manner by goycattle that wants to stay on the child grooming platform, but makes up a reason for it that makes them look less pathetic

>>109360096
You do realize that is exactly the point I was trying to make and exactly what I was criticizing right? They are trying to appeal to a market segment that does not exist.

>>109360089
>discord has won
GenA doesn't even use Discord.
And anyone who cares left discord as well.
All the 4chan related Discord servers that were super actice years ago, are now ghost towns.

Discord won WITH YOU. YOU are the one who is stuck and you will get milked like Facebook milks boomers.
There is no hope for you, so please stop making those dumb cope threads. Just accept your fate as cattle to be milked.
Don't try to bait others into your lost situation by making the dumb claim that you just have to use Discord.

>>109360122
These projection posts are always the saddest.
>n-nno one uses discord anyways
>b-b-but they won because I- uhh I mean y-you! YOU! USED IT!

>>109360152
You said they won.
And fact is that they won with you. You are the one who is stuck there. Others aren't. And new generations arent using it in the first place.
Discords growth stage is over, they will now lock you in and milk you. Like every single venture capital project did ever.

Discord isnt as popular as you think it is. You are the cattle to be milked, others are not.

>>109354954
there is really no actually good alternative to discord, it beats all of them in convenience, simplicity to set up and manage a community, voice chat features, gaming features etc etc.
if we could have all that on an end to end encrypted platform like matrix it would be awesome, but that won't happen ever

>>109360319
>Discord
>convenient
kek, good joke

>>109359870
So you have evidence that a project like grapheneos is compromised, and your argument is that its pointless to use it because they can just remote access it anyway?

If you mean the cell infrastructure itself, yeah I hear you, but I'm still not gonna make it any easier for them. I dont believe such a function such as remote screenshot exists in grapheme

>>109360327
what would be a good example of convenience then? discord is easy to use for the average person. calling, messaging, calling with multiple people is made trivial, discord also automatically does several things to remove noise from your background/make your voice sound better. overall, I don't really see how it's inconvenient

>>109358991
try sic

>>109360423
not getting bombarded with popups
nit taking a minute to load
not having stupidly low limits and then telling you afterwards that you need to pay to upload this
having a ui that actually makes sense, rather than a behemoth of a convoluted settings menu
allowing someone to be part of just a single channel and ignoring all the rest of a "server", rather than forcing stuff on you you arent interested in

If you can't see a price tag and it costs real money to run, then it's selling something you can't see.

>>109360423
>does several things to remove noise from your background/make your voice sound better
This very thing makes your voice WORSE if it's just a 1:1 call.
Yes, if you are in a channel with 100 zoomers, you do not want to hear any background noise of them.
But lets say you call your girlfriend (i know, i know!) you want to hear everything, you don't want a stupid filter. You want to have an experience as if you are with her.

Skype was extremely good at this. Skype even survived network reconnects and was amazing at negotiating bitrates.
The death of Skype was a technological regression because nothing ever got close.

>>109360045
Their approach caters to those who want to leave Discord and will do so in a heartbeat but first they need to convince their normgroid friends to do the same.

I'm about to make the leap and get off discord. I mainly use it for the server/channel function for me and my gf. We post memes in one channel, food related pics/recipes in another, youtube links in another. Its a pretty cool way to communicate and organize, not just a single thread.

I'm thinking I'll self host matrix, nothing else really has the right mix of privacy focus and feature-rich.

Everybody who is still on Discord, will stay there till their death.
In 50 years, you will still write about how there's totally no alternative to Discord, while nobody else remembers what a "Discord" even is.

Think about boomers and facebook.
What do you think about facebook? Probably something like: "oh yeah, this also exists somewhere, i forgot about it".
Meanwhile boomers are stuck there.
If you ask a facebook boomer wtf he is doing there, he will tell you stories about how facebook is bad, but there are no alternatives.

>>109355333
So it's not e2ee. Just like telegram.

>>109360587
Maybe there is something self-hosted, end to end encrypted that I can use locally with family members, with tailscale so I don't have to open the server up to the internet.

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>>109360122
>every gaming related forum is moved to discord, same with publishers/devs needing a loudspeaker
>oh you want modifications for your game, DISCORD
>want to commission art/music/3D, Dickshit
>coding? all official shit is still on Dicksword
>E-Celeb shit, you guessed it Discord
good luck with grassroot movement and trying to dislodge people from there

>>109360753
Not matrix, matrix needs a domain with valid ssl cert.

>>109360810
I have no idea what idiotic communities you communicate with.

Discord is not a self-enclosed platform, because its discovery is shit.
If "something" needs a Discord server, this "something" will have to advertise it on some other platforms, otherwise you couldn't find it.
So you always have the chance to just ask on that platform
>software is on github
>"join out discord for support xD"
>sjmply don't join their discord
>ask on github (discussion or issue)
>"oh, just join the discord and get an answer there"
>answer "sorry, i dont have discord, because i am not a pedophile who rapes children"
>get an answer directly
The amount of times i saw someone really really demanding to join a Discord, even after telling them that you wont, and refusing to answer in place, is: 0
Zero, none, not a single such example.

>>109356109
Sloga is still buggy also but i jumped on three times today and it's definately better. nothing dropped as it did 5 days ago.

>>109358774
A lot. That Was a serious violation.

>>109355055
>teamspeak
Proprietary chatting apps in the big 2026
>>109355178
>matrix
Really underrated, audio streaming is cursed and it is probably missing features if you are 13 and need to constantly block and moderate all people and things, but otherwise it is fantastique.

>>109358085
Where did they go to?

>>109364018
There was a brief period where the matrix matrix server was goated and active and one could go there and have actual discussions about shell scripting and distro configuration all day. Ever since the matrix matrix went down some time ago, they all moved back to irc and the central matrix server is a wasteland after coming back online.

>>109360441
>try sic
In English, please.

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Anyone else having issues today? This turd has been hanging for hours.

mumble

let me guess, you need more

>>109354954
Telegram is the only sane answer.

>>109354954
https://discordless.com/alternatives

why not run a spacebar instance if you're so hung up on the discord feature list?

>>109360519
no theyre doing it out of the goodness of their heart chud

>>109354954
Thinking about creating an invite only opensource version of AoL chatrooms.

>>109370710
you're getting what ypu deserve, you faggot normhoid

Is their age verification process safe? Do they keep data/pics?

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Today I will remind you that Discord shouldn't exist.

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>>109355055
Proprietary.

>>109354954
Matrix.

>>109375770
Short answer:
>safe
no
>keep
yes
Long answer: https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona

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>>109375963
does that fucker block Tor?

>>109376107
eventually got through, i haven't seen neko.exe cursor chase for a long time

>>109354954
What makes every discord alternative irrelevant is not that they are less functional. it's that the masses don't use them. Good luck convincing your friends to cancel their nitro sub.

>>109373055
It's safe IF you enable e2ee first. Discord has encryption that is read in the middle once it hits the server. Sloga has e2ee that cant be read in the middle.

Stoat is the best but it's full of troons and furries, if you just want to have a private server it just werks, just don't post on main server or youll get banned for tranphobia or some shit.

>>109355112
What's the catch?

>>109376464
THE hardest part of all. Although Sloga is implementing a feature to import your server over. All friends must create their own login though.

>>109378146
Define catch anon.

>>109378146
Just go and check it out. Sloga.gg

>>109378196
So it's a stoat fork with few more features?

>>109378206
Yes.

>>109378239
How are the public servers?

>>109378244
stable

>>109378244
I get around 15ms latency in voice

>>109354954
There are none.

>>109378244
Im in the northeast. There are a lot more features actually. video chat as well and updated frequently. Check the patch notes history in settings. 5g file attachments,etc.

>>109378289
Video chat got introduced recently on stoat.
I wish either of them had a flatpak.

>>109354954
Every current possible replacement is still cooking and people are waiting to see who goes where first.

>>109378304
Is it 4k?

>>109378320
I don't know. Might be.
Sloga is not vibecoded, is it? I'm seeing cloud in all the commits.

https://github.com/sloga-mcp/sloga-backend

>>109378320
Also why was the subreddit banned?

>>109378340
No!

>>109378368
I don't know really.

>>109378320
why the fuck do you need 4K streaming

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>>109354954
>Discord alternatives that aren't assfucked garbage??
IRC over https with IP address obfuscation tables

>>109379474
nta but irc doesnt have chat history. I dont know WHY most text alternatives do not have chat history.

>>109379482
who needs chat history? file transfers bring pedos, all you need is txt everything else xan be done by ;pasting links to external systems, client is browser sandboxed, ip address is obfuscated and traffic is over https and you are done. Majoroty vote kick,

it's trivial, go write it yourself. It's the chat equivalent of this shithole, the only worthwhile communication is pseudo anonymous

>>109379531
>who needs chat history?
Everyone.

>>109379455
Would you take 720 over 480?
It will be a thing but maybe not so much now...

Just use either sharkcord OR chatto at this point in time. Don't bother with fluxer or stoat (FOR NOW) since they're still in the early stages with unstable builds (theyre a nightmare to selfhosted right now).

Personally I'd say just go with sharkcord if you have a small community. It's so damn easy to setup. If you need slightly more privacy oriented features, go with a sharkcord fork i found off of REDDIT :p

https://github.com/h8d13/caesar

IRC

>>109379564
Retards

>>109380623
Retard, I don't want to keep asking the same question over and over. I want a chat history so people can see it the next day

>>109381371
then why do you use a chat platform? Are you stupid?

>>109381481
A chat platform is for repeating yourself over and over? Are you retarded?

>>109355074
why not goofcord? the fmhy wiki marks it as a privacy fork of legcord, not sure how much more private this one is when compared to legcord.
https://github.com/Milkshiift/GoofCord

>>109355282
at least whatsapp is e2ee, unlike telegram (even tho i still think telegram is more private because they dont usually give out information to the feds)

i dont understand why people do calls through whatsapp, thats gotta be the brownest thing ever. my friends do it too and it SUCKS

>>109375889
>>109375902
install a modded client that blocks discords telemetry, slap an adblock filter and boom thats it. just dont give discord any of your sheckels.

>>109381576
Who searches through chat drivel of trannies to try to find a solution for something within the homosexual ERP sessions?
Could it be any more inconvenient?

You eat shit and tell yourself that it tastes good.

>>109355112
Website looks vibecoded

>>109364018
How to matrix without an account?

>>109381576
Of course you will repeat yourself over and over if you use fucking Discord for support.
Nobody is using the trash search function if he has a specific question.
You are going to answer it. Again and again and again and you will get pinged for it.

If you don't want that, don't use Discord.

>>109378146
>>109378196
>E2EE and encrypted attachments, no IP logs, no way for server owners to browse accounts
>free
NTA but what is the catch? The data retention stuff is very vague.
>When you delete content or your account, we delete the associated data within a reasonable time, except where law requires us to keep it
I see that it doesn't keep attachments over 20MB for more than 24 hours so I could see it being hosted out of pocket, but some more info on where the servers are hosted, who pays for it, and data retention would be nice. Assume the service will be abused by bad actors and write from that perspective.

>>109360753
>>109360816
You can do federated Matrix using a Tailscale node on a public VPS that routes traffic to a local container running Matrix, then isolate that container from your network. This gives you a Matrix server with a custom domain where you run the server locally without tying your domain to your IP directly. You do need domain and SSL cert but these days for self-hosting you basically need that anyway if you want anything to work with SSL. I set mine up like this and it was a bit of a bitch to do without using Tailscale before, if you're familiar with Tailscale it should be relatively easy. Then you can talk to nobody because nobody is on Matrix.

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>>109360519
You implying something about the GNU project?

>>109381371
Nobody is using the search shit on Discord lol
If you don't want to answer the same question over and over, you use a forum.

>>109381870
Having chat history is a good thing, faggot. Not everyone is online 24/7 to keep up with conversations.

>>109379910
This is the answer.

>>109354954
if you are looking for an alternative that means you have no friends
friends use discord

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>>109354954
Mattermost.

>>109381638
>install a modded client that blocks discords telemetry, slap an adblock filter and boom thats it. just dont give discord any of your sheckels.
huh? i just have a separate browser (with uBlock Origins) that i only use discord.com in. i wouldn't install discord's exe in a million years.
the issue is the company is ran by a bunch of woke retards that shouldn't have all that power.

>>109359970
*sigh* I hate proprietary slop and stick to FOSS wherever possible, but I hate that that puts me in the same category as these people.

I like the in-terminal discord alternatives, just something about it clicks with my autistic ass.

>>109354954
hello its not private but i made https://uproar.chat because im also tired of discord's shenanigans, thanks to anybdy who tries it

>>109383745
The forums move into discord you fucking mongoloid

>>109383828
Oh yes, reading the ERP sessions from two years ago must be really worthwhile, especially with Discords horrid UI and retarded dysfunctional search function.

Whatever you want, is all much better done somewhere else.

>>109385675
stop projecting your common discord servers

>>109385639
Being on Discord necessarily forces you to answer the same question again and again.
You may love it, because then you can gatekeep it and demand dick pics for special roles, but don't delude yourself into believing that it would be less effort or convenient.

That being said, i am not part of even one single Community that has Discord as its main communication Hub. So i have no idea in which degenerate and disgusting places for subhumans you hang out on.

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i been using https://uproar.chat/ and i like it more than discord

app is faster and non cancerous as the discord app that feels bloated as fuck

>>109354954
I'm looking for one too. They've banned all my emails because I joined 4chan groups.

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>>109383215

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>>109354954
>>109356136
>>109358991
>>109379474
>>109379910
When will they learn? I'm still using the same setup from the mid 2000s and its comy af.

>>109385825
>only feature it advertises is ai agents
buy an ad

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>>109354954
I'm using stoat and playing tictactoe with my bot

>>109354954
>>109355112 (OP)
No one's using for your vibecoded trash rajesh. Buy an ad.

>>109354954
There's a bunch of Discorded Matrix instances now so use those
Also Tuxler

>>109356089
>Stoat
Stop shilling this incomplete tranny garbage, this is like recommending Bsky over X or Mastodon

>>109354954
>hurr durr discord is garbage
>I know what will save me! Vibecoded discord clones from jeets that have their data breached and shut down in a month
Real answer is decentralized platforms. But you won't use that because what you want is to keep using trannycord but without the risk of being terminated for sharing pics of little boys

>>109360810
You're trying to convince the shut-ins here that people with Discord psychosis will move to their snazzy new platform that is clearly missing certain "sells" that will get people to move.
That on top of a low chance some big faggot eceleb will shit it to the point that a good juicy 35% will already made their move.

It's not worth the time, just get ready to recommend your choice of platform the moment Discord really break it's camel's back.
There's also people trying to pull the "Harvard sucks, don't bother going there" card, so more reason to don't waste your time arguing.

>>109389311
*Fluxler

>>109389330
>But you won't use that because
They either suck or does exist period.
The moment people use Matrix more, it'll be another tranny groomer hotbed again.

just use sharkcord and move on

Its really sad how there's not even much of a self hosted option for a simple chat program with modern notification and channel features. Doesn't even have to have video or voice, but still nothing?

>>109375963
>keep
??

>>109389444
there are thousands of those

>>109389360
>missing certain "sells"
Why do you think you need "certain sells" for normies? Discord is the most horrible, convoluted, laggy, trashy piece of shit that was ever popular.
There is no reason FOR using Discord.
And that's why Discord is going to die anyway, it doesn't need "an alternative". Previous popular platforms didn't die by "alternatives". Normies change platforms all few years and never did they need to be convinced by an "alternative" to do so.

You just have to stop caring about discord troons. You don't have to save the trannies. They will be left behind anyway.
Stay on Discord and die there, like boomers do on Facebook.

>>109379910
IRC? lol anon, you don't even need to communicate with people anymore. AI will provide you with all the social interaction you will ever need.

>>109391036
Chesterton's fence
If you don't understand why something is popular you aren't qualified to criticize it

>>109391168
are you still on facebook?

>>109355115
>because you've imprinted on Discord or whatever, then stay there and be quiet
nigger, nobody else is using signal and xmpp. your retarded family doesn't count
>here, use this thing so you'll only talk to 5 other people

>>109360122
>GenA doesn't even use Discord.
who gives a shit about genA, you pedo

>>109391199
I never used facebook beyond having a token presence
Now explain to us the reasons for using discord

>>109360122
>4chan related Discord servers
they are ghost towns because 4chan servers are a retarded idea

>>109381944
>Nobody is using the trash search function
search is good on discord and people are using it. are you retarded?
i'm not saying discord isn't evil as a company, but discord, the TOOL, is the best thing out there right now. there's no point trying to deny it, unless you're a disingenuous fag or simply retarded

>>109391230
Facebook has a hundred times more users than Discord and Facebook Groups have more activity than Discord servers.
Do you need an alternative to facebook? Do you need to convince boomers to not use facebook?
Or do you just accept that facebook boomers are stuck in their hole and don't care?
Why would you want to reform discord or care about the few troons, who will be stuck in the hellhole forever?

I don't want to save troons.

>>109391199
>are you still on facebook?
what a retarded thing to ask. some people never had a facebook account

>>109391248
The fact that you get asked the same question 100 times per day on discord and that troons have to run discord bots for quick-answering to the same questions again and again, proves you wrong

And why would you even use discord shit search? It's a real time chat. Just ping the first troon who has a high role.
It's not like a forum, where people reply when they have time. You can ping a troon and he will get notified immeidately and answer immediately.

>>109391257
even more people never had a discord account

>>109391252
who the fuck cares about the boomers on facebook. those are not the people we need to interact with. are you the same faggot who said genA doesn't use discord? fucking idiot

>>109391271
who the fuck cares about the trannies on discord. those are not the people we need to interact with. are you the same faggot who said genA doesn't use facebook? fucking idiot

>>109391260
>The fact that you get asked the same question 100 times per day on discord
i've never had this experience, and i mod a server where there is a ton of content. everyone is using search. you are a faggot. i've literally never seen this happen. maybe have a better community, you retard
searching works perfectly and you're complaining about a human problem that only you are experiencing. how fucking retarded are you

>tech incompetent boomers get stuck on the first platform that was popular when they joined the internet - facebook
>tech incompetent zoomers get suck on the first platform that was popular when they joined the internet - discord
>tech competent people don't use either

>>109391276
>tHe TrAnNiEs On DiScOrD
what a whiny faggot

>>109391279
>and i mod a server
point a gun to your head and pull the trigger

>>109391267
and?

>>109391280
projecting

>>109391282
sure thing, discord troon,

I hope you will stay stuck on the horrid trash surveillance platform till your death (which won't be particularly long)

>get into my platform and stop generating data
>;)

>>109391284
>>109391289
lighten up, retard. not everything is trannies on discord. maybe that's a you problem

>>109391296
You are stuck on discord, a platform you hate.
All the posts you write are about this very fact. You admit it.

You just refuse to acknowledge that it's a (You) problem and not a general problem. Other people do not have this problem.
That you are locked into a hellhole is on you, and if you want to get out of it, the issue is on you. Nobody else. We don't have to save you, tranny.
Gen Alpha is indeed not using Discord. Which hits discord especially hard because it's very appeal for trannies is the ability to groom children.

>>109391302
i'm not "stuck", faggot, i use other platforms. nobody is on those other platforms. lighten the fuck up. you are not special, you are just retarded

>>109391316
>i am not stuck
>but here is the reason why i can't use anything else
Listen, anon, stop being dishonest.
That it is dumb to handle common support questions on an undiscoverable real time chat platform, is simply a fact. You could have a github discussion page or discourse or even reddit (shows up in google search).
Discord is especially bad for it because every single Discord server has to advertise outside of Discord. It's not a closed platform like facebook. Nobody has to advertise his facebook groups outside of facebook, the people within facebook are about to find it within facebook.
You think that
>seeing "join our Discord for support xD" -> clicking on it -> answering whatever stupid survey discord comes up with -> then using the search, that has a horrible interface
is convenient?

Seriously?
And then you get those same questions of other platforms again anyway, because people exist who simply arent going to follow your discord invite. And those people get more every single day. Even people who use Discord prefer not to join your Discord server and having to mute a bunch of channels to not get notified whenever you write a fart in your announcement channel.

You use shit. And you are stuck with the shit. And you will stay there forever. Your future is the same future that facebook boomers are living right now.
Enjoy the hell you created.

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I am learning Blender and had a question.
I googled it. The first usable result, that actually answered the question, was a facebook group.
There are a gorillion blender and 3d modelling related Discords out there, but it would have been more effort and much slower to join those.

>>109391346
faggot, you're only trying to convince yourself that you're not retarded. everyone else sees how retarded you are
>for support xD
projecting imbecile with 0 imagination. it's easy to tell you have no hobbies

>>109391367
>YOU are actually the retarded one for not being locked into a hellhole
ok

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>>109391359
donut as proof

>>109391359
discord isn't for asking google-like questions
>hurrr i didn't do something stupid, i did the normal thing instead!
very cool. do you wipe your own butt as well?

discord troons sure are seething ITT

>>109391370
>you're locked in you're locked in because i say so!
ok, faggot. simmer down

>>109391378
>makes up some fantasy about how everybody is using the discord search for common support questions
...five minutes later...
>OH YEAH, NOBODY ACTUALLY DOES THIS

>>109391389
i said it's normal to use google search instead of asking on discord. are you retarded?

>>109391389
Why the FUCK would you look on discord for blender answers? Chatgpt can do whatever you want, step by step, it spoonfeeds you. How fucking stupid are you?

>>109391378
Questions about blender would be THE usecase for discord
Because it's a real time chat platform and if you only need support for: "hey look at this face in my mesh, it looks funny!", you can post a screenshot and one of the million of people, who are familiar with the software, may be online and willing to help right now.
It is also where screenshare would come in handy.

Yet, if you actually want to learn such visual heavy software, you are better off avoiding Discord, to not waste your time with some talkative troons who just want to advertise or sound smart to bait for roles on their social platform.

Ten years ago, you could read and even write in a discord server without even having a discord account. At that time, such quick support questions, actually worked.
But nowadays?
With their surveys, verification requirements and a million channels to mute? Nah. Just don't bother.

>>109391386
If you wouldn't be stuck inside the hellhole called discord, you wouldn't be seething here so hard right now.
Congrats (z)oomer for falling into the same trap that (b)oomers fell into.

We do not have to save you.

>>109354954
>assfucked garbage replacement that isn't assfucked garbage
what a strange thing to say

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>>109354954
whats the point of even suggesting, you fuckers wouldn't even move to xat chat, you all just want more toxic platforms

>>109391422
>we
ok, schizo

>>109391405
>Questions about blender would be THE usecase for discord
you are retarded if you think people want to wait for a reply from someone and not just use ai to get the exact step by step that actually works
>a million channels to mute
nigger, you can just mute a server entirely. are you retarded?

>>109391973
>>109391398
Do you have one usecase for Discord that Chatgpt doesn't perform better than discord trannies?
We both know that you are lying, but lets just assume that chatgpt is as awesome as you think it is, what is the usecase of discord again?

Why didn't you sperg out in seething hatred and anger and threw slurs around when it was suggested that the search in dsicord would be needed for answers to common questions?

>>109390944
Name them.

>>109389329
What's incomplete about it? It's not like bluesky because it's open source.

>>109389329
Stoat is actually not bad. Sloga has more features by far but both are still developing. Sloga has added default e2ee and you can migrate your discord server over.

>>109391221
Like I said, my use case won't work for you. Good luck out there!

>>109391199
>facebook
unc, everyone using Instagram and tiktok

Im self hosting fluxer for myself and my friends. it does the job even though its in early development. My only concern is that the devteam is on bluesky, we'll see how that pans out

>>109396050
How does it work in comparison to discord? What do you like/ dislike?

>>109394604
always some fucking FAGGOT starting with "like i said", and then some retarded bullshit follows. reiterating the same retarded bullshit as if it's relevant, makes sense, or is not retarded. great job, faggot

>>109397667
Are you upset that signal works for me? What's the issue?

>>109396050
>My only concern is that the devteam is on bluesky

If this is your only concern, then holy fuck, you need to get outside more.

Fluxer devs does most of their discussion across 4 different Fluxer servers, in public.

This is why the network effect is so powerful. There really is no alternatives when all your friends use it. Peak gloware.

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>>109360896
>>answer "sorry, i dont have discord, because i am not a pedophile who rapes children"
do you say this verbatim?

>>109397906
That's only half the story, none of the competition offers a complete replacement.

unironically, IRC with a bouncer such as ZNC or soju

>>109389329
>reading comprehension check failed

What do you have for age verification options?

>>109398106
you are lying to yourself

>>109399558
and yet whenever you ask if an "alternative" has high quality low latency screen sharing you get crickets
or the dumber alternative, saying that it isn't even an important feature

>>109397708
i also use signal. what is your point? are you upset that i eat oranges?

>>109399602
>open matrix
>jitsi has high quality low latency screen sharing
>open some random website like https://www.jitbit.com
>it has high quality low latency screen sharing and i literally just have to share a link
>download obs
>i have even higher quality lower latency screen sharing
>use any random remote access help platform bullshit like teamvewier
>it has high quality low latency screen sharing and you can even help someone directly

>>109398099
Sure, why not? Everybody hates discord.
If you say that Discord is for child grooming pedophiles, nobody is going to disagree with that. The best you get is an "oh, but we aren't like that", which you can swiftly wipe away with an "sorry, i am still not comfortable using that platform".
I never saw a discord community that isn't accessible outside of discord.
It is an auxiliary platform. Your tranny discord server needs to be shilled somewhere. They are always accessible without discord as well.

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>>109399672
>heres your jitsi quality screen sharing bro
also matrix is a fucking trainwreck to begin with
>just use obs or some other separate thing
yeah no, thats literally the same thing as saying its not an important feature because you can just use something else

>>109399753
What's your usecase?
If you just want to give tech support, copy&pasting a link is much more convenient than discords bullshit.
And having actual remote abilities is better than "now click this button to the top left corner".

>>109399761
usecase is chatting with friends and sharing screen for whatever we want, games, support, movies, whatever
>copy&pasting a link is much more convenient than discords bullshit.
you can't be serious
having to post a separate link and use another service is a ton of friction

>>109399753
Telling a relative to join you on discord is retarded, inconvenient and convoluted (in case they never used discord before).
So you first have to explain them how to use that laggy retard platform with its trashy UI, that throws a dozen begging popups into their face for nitro, before you can even start giving tech support, or doing whatever you wanted to do.

>>109399784
yes, copy&pasting a link that immediately opens with the screenshare is more convenient than discord
>sharing screen for movies, whatever
let me guess: You use screenshare as a retarded convoluted way for listening to music together?

>>109399793
so let me get this straight
you think that you have one chat app, whatever it is
and you use a link to go to a separate screen sharing thing
thus using two separate platforms
is less friction than just using one platform for chat and screen sharing at the same time
that is some high level retardation
and to answer your irrelevant question no we don't use it for music

>>109399821
Remember back in the day, when discord had bots that you could invite into a voice chat and then you just wrote the name of a song and it would play it?

Discord nuked all of those, so then discord trannies started to use screenshare for watching youtube together (LMAO), which is much less convenient and obviously idiotic.
Then you got used to it.
And now you whine and cry your eyes out, because all those other hundreds of chat platforms aren't as idiotic, trashy, laggy and inconvenient as discord is.
It's like getting punched in the face every single day, then going somewhere where you don't get punched, and complaining about it, because you got addicted to your daily dose of punching now.

Screenshare?
Others have it as well. So get fucked.

>>109399821
If you want to give tech support, then inviting someone to a laggy chat platform is less convenient than sharing a link.

>>109399836
I suppose watching videos together would seem like a funny idea to someone with no friends
You go on about whining and crying but that makes no sense because a I have a platform that does what I want for the time being
I would rather have something I could self host and replicate the functionality without relying on an external server like mumble which we hosted in the past, but the functionality just isn't there

>>109399862
Just stay on discord then, if you think that screensharing is a way of watching a movie.
Keep using your inconvenient low quality garbage that you got used to.
Others don't have to save you, you can stay there while the rest of the world moves on.

>>109355333
Dude what the fuck are you talking about?

>>109354954
irc

>>109399908
I'll be where my friends are
We moved on from mumble when discord was a better alternative
We'll move on from discord when something better comes along

>>109354954
Stoat and it fucking sucks

>>109400029
>try stoat
>has the weird thing where voice channels are actually calls
>screen sharing is 720p 15fps

>>109399931
good sheeple

>>109399931
>We'll move on
You won't.
You are defending convoluted bad things about Discord, when "something better comes along", you will be angry about it and still stay on Discord, because by now you think that bad is good, out of habit.
But others are moving on. Others aren't stuck like you are.
>i need to watch movies in some shitty ass screencast
lmao

>>109354954
google bonfirechat, its pretty good

>>109400115
you can keep lmaoing all you want but that is what people want, and if the open source developers just lmao at what people actually want that is how we get into this situation

>>109400191
Why should OpenSource developers care about you? What do they get out of it?
Wasting time with some dishonest fuck who is addicted to a child grooming platform?

Discord is not going to stay around anyway. Compared to how much you saw it years ago, its already dyingm

>>109400300
They probably care somewhat about people wanting to use what they develop
The people who complain the most about people using discord is people who don't like discord...so if you want people to not use discord, make something better that people will want to use.

>>109400451
People who want to use what you develop: Yes
People who lie to you and pretend that they would totally use it, if only you chase a goal with constantly moving posts: No

Read what you yourself write:
You are using a buggy spy platform that scans all your messages and that scams money out of you, because you watch movies over a low quality screenshare, but dislike other screenshare solution because they are either too easy to use or apparently have lower quality, because someone who watched movies over screenshare surely cares a lot about quality somehow.

You are not serious. You are lying to yourself. Discord could shove a dildo up your ass and you would still use it.
Appealing to you is destructive.
Stay on your idiotic laggy trash platfotm.

>>109400598
Okay, continue to misinterpret the situation and stay mad that people are using discord

Stay on discord you fucking troons.