Included in the building maintenance fees that is paid to the "borettslag". I guess the American version would be HOA. At time of installation you could choose between various packages, such as included streaming services and IPTV channels for their "cable box". I chose just "internet".
I also just pay for internet
>>109359745PSA:If you have a managed switch, configure rate control properly for your Internet plan.I ended up marginally dropping latency slightly after doing that (particularly on ingress traffic from the router to the switch)
>>109359898I don't do any rate limiting or QoS.
>>109359986That'll be why you have 37ms of download bloat.
Is this ok? Actually I recently changed isps and this plan I got from my new isp is only 500 mbps up/down, I am thinking they either set it up wrong or maybe they are trying to tempt me to switch to a gbps plan.
>>109360087I am this poster >>109359782
>>109360658Try running multiple speed tests in parallel on different devices whilst pinging Google in the background. Probably you will still see some bloat on the connection.If you have a managed switch like I do then setting the switch ports rate control helps to pace / smooth things out instead of traffic hitting it in big bursts.SQM on the router is just as important though.
>>109359745do you get your own IP address?
>>109360705Sure, but to what end?How often am I downloading at 2300mbps while ALSO doing something super latency intensive? Like yeah, I COULD get some buffer bloat to show up if I force it, but why?In the real world it'll never happen.SQM is irrelevant on the router if you're never organically going to hit these limits.> BUT YOU CAN FORCE IT TO LOOK BAD SYNTHETICALLY!yep.
>>109360727If you aren't ever hitting those speeds then why are you paying for that plan? Don't you think it's bad that your Internet could slow down on other devices whilst doing a big download in Steam or a large file upload?
>>109360743Because the real world is messy.Steam regularly hits 1.8-2.2Gbps, that still leaves my network with hundreds of megabits per second for other traffic, and my router has no issues dealing with latency sensitive applications during these downloads.I'd have to peg my connection to the FULL 2.35gbps+ AND also need to do something latency intensive for it to show up, and since 99.99999% of real world connections will be limited BELOW that speed anyway (from disk speed, CPU limits, server limits, peering point limits in-between, etc).
>>109360770>Because the real world is messy.That's an argument for SQM not against it. The fact that the world is messy is why you want per-host / per-flow fairness so no single device can game the system.
>>109360719Believe so, they pulled out the old coax and replaced it with a fibercable. Got some fiber to ethernet gateway on my wall now, were the old coax connection used to be.
>>109360787It's really not though.You're trying to optimize my network like it's 2010 and it's a 100Mbps line. Your thinking is simply outdated, further SQM at 2gbps+ REQUIRES a fuck ton of CPU horsepower in your router.I don't particularly want a multi-thousand dollar router, or some retarded pfsense x86 box that draws 50w+ while idle and 150w+ at 2gbps.
>>109360798
My modem/router is in the basement and I did this test from the 2nd story
>>109360826the loaded latency is horrible lmao
>>109360832I guess that's what happens when your WiFi signal has to travel up two floors from a basement.>>109360826Can you at least run multiple access points in a mesh network?
>>109360852I really should someday
>>10936088Can you redo the test standing near the router?Im curious if it's partially the 5G connection, not the wifi.
>>109360933for>>109360883
>>109360883Yikes!
>>109360933
>>109360979Oddly the first test I did with a server in the wrong state had much better latency
GPON in the UK.Downstream is slightly faster if I run an uncontended test (no other devices, quiet time of day, I think up to ~940).Upstream is artificially capped to avoid competing with their symmetric business packages. Competitors with symmetric domestic packages are available in many areas but not mine.Ping is inflated because my traffic is PPPoE tunnelled to London before it can go anywhere else, and I'm 300 miles away from London. In practice this is less of an issue than you'd expect because most of the time the server I'm trying to access will be in London anyway (or goes via an international cable terminating near London).
>>109360996Better download at least, upload is far worse.
>>109360979>>109360883>>109360826The speed is unsurprisingly more stable in the basement and stays around 310-330 whereas it fluctuates wildly upstairs going as low as 190.
>>109361034So yeah, looks like your latency is either your device you're testing on, OR the connection itself from the router to the tower.Either way, woof, rough for gaming or live streaming.
the day it was installedtoo expensive for what it is 2bh
>>109361923>the day it was installedTest it right now and post the result or gtfo
>>109362033ive tested it many times since its the same I am not at home in this moment and had this screencap on hand?their ont/router or the ISP infrastructure itself does some cheating with the download speed cause it starts off at 1gbps and gets slower, weird cause this is a 600/600 plan
>>109362092>what is a burst speed
sixty britbongian pounds
>>109360998>Ping is inflated because my traffic is PPPoE tunnelled to London before it can go anywhere elseZencuck cope kek
>>109363069Very nice! I like
>>109363075Not really, I was complaining about it.Most openreach ISPs do this unfortunately. I think only Sky and Talktalk don't use a tunnel on Openreach, and iirc neither of them offer a static ipv4. And apparently they're even using fucking cgnat now.pppoe to london is better than that shitshow, but it's still a bad situation. Cityfibre doesn't seem to have this problem but it's not in my area.
>>109363069That's pretty much what I pay for >>109359782
>>109360998Pretty much every UK ISP anywhere in the country does the "terminate in London" crap, except maybe if you live in Manchester or Edinburgh, etc, it may terminate locally there (at least I think that's a thing with some ISPs).Local exchanges are a thing of the past. The annoying thing about this is it prevents ultra-low-latency metro networks from being a thing. Say you want to connect to your neighbours public IP address, should be switched nice and fast with 0.1-1ms latency, right? Hell, no, off to London and back again just to send some packets to your neighbour whose right next door.
they offer 5Gbe here but all my equipment maxes out at 1Gbe. Also apparently anything above 1Gbe gets a new modem/router box that is more finnicky to bypass iirc. I love att
>>109364656That sounds retarded and short sighted.
all these tests are rigged
>>109367575Is steam rigged?
Sure I'll post a speeder why not >Australia, OpticommI fucking hope we get the 2gbps and 4gbps speed upgrade soon.
>>109367711Some people's ISPs are so dog shit on anything BUT speedtests they genuinely believe every ISP does the same thing.
>>109367711It's rigged
>>109367529It's because it saves them money to not have to handle the routing and switching more closely. The UK is a pretty small country so it works even though it's very suboptimal routing wise.Did you know in Wales, for example, there is an Internet exchange building in Cardiff. Costs a fuck ton of money and is basically only used by the Welsh Government.
Well that's embarrassing. My upload is usually around 50 mbps up. No really I swear! You gotta believe me!
>>109371166Wow, that just might be the most asymmetric connection I've ever seen. What the fuck is up with that ratio?
800 down / 40 up.Most of my town has fiber available, but not my neighborhood.I get pretty consistent speeds throughout the whole house due to a WiFi 7 mesh network with wired backhaul, and wired connection for all the stationary machines.
1000/50 connection for $20 month. Due to PPPOE header, practically this is 940/50I use traffic shaper to reduce latency. Limited to 910/47 for best bufferbloat result
>>10935974523.99€no capno subscriptionjust internetcan use my own routera real shame the country won't exist anymore in 10 years, there was a lot of potential before they starting importing brownies and other kind of creatures from Mordor
About 20 miles from me you can get a 10 gigabit symmetric connection.I’ve always wondered which part would be more expensive: bribing a telecom to run a really long cable to my house, or upgrading all of my networking gear to actually handle that speed.
>>109371339Just get a bunch of (Pic related) to interconnect different rooms. Then use an SFP to Ethernet module (can get very hot though and sometimes fail) or a media converter to get 10GigE to plug into your router or desktop.
>>109371339You'd need to bribe too many people that its probably cheaper to just move.Each mile of fiber is ~$20-80k for overhead lines on utility poles.If it needs to be underground then it goes up to ~$60-180k/mileSo anywhere from ~$400,000 on the low end up to about $3.6M (or more)No one is doing that sort of project without multiple exec signoffs and dozens if not hundreds of engineering hours, and likely interfacing with local governments along the way. That just aint happening for some minor bribes.
>>109359745>Ever paying for cableI'm not 50+ years old
>>109371414I didn’t mean that literally, but it is interesting to think about. Less expensive than I thought.They sell that speed for $60/month, so just 560 to 5000 customer-years to break even.>>109371378Wouldn’t you still be limited to 1 gig for anything going through the switch?
>>109371378>>109372293 (me)Oh I see, 10G for the SFP ports, title is misleading
>>109372310Yes, only the Ethernet port which is basically only there for management and PoE is 1Gig.This is basically one of the cheapest ways to get 10Gig at home. I missed their comment about the ISP that does it being 20 miles out from them though but still, if you want 10GiG at home for a NAS or whatever then this is a relatively affordable way to do it.
>>109371166East link type shit
pretty nice for free (package included for working at the ISP)
>>109373179I hate your front rendering
>>109373179Are you an actual technician or customer service/ management? If technician when what do you do? Tell us some isp secrets that only isp insiders know
