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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music Models

Previous: >>109355754

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image

>Qwen
https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>LTX-2.3
https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23

>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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I hear Z Image 2 is coming soon. The TRUE Krea 2 and Flux 3 killer. LFG
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>>109359780
I'll pay a dollar an hour to run flux3 if I need to and it's actually the sora2-at-home it's hyped up to be. Accredited datacenters from Hong Kong are not spying on me generating video and if they are I don't care because I paid for it with crypto
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1st
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>>109359823
yeah but two levels of censorship in the model and api
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>lil bro is actually named zit chad
lmao pimplehead!
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>>109359826
Stop posting this Krea 2 slop porn shit PLEASE.

>>109359823
It won't be though. Why do you buy into the propaganda? Flux can't even do porn. ZIT on the other hand....
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>>109359823
>and it's actually the sora2-at-home
So you're telling me that a model from BFL whose reputation comes from posion itself with anti NSFW and anti copyright less than a year ago, 8 months ago to be exact, is going to do the exact opposite with this new model?
Tell me, do you happen to believe in Santa Claus?
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>>109359823
>age verification required
>please give us two photo IDs and your ssn
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>>109359844
Us ZITChads know that Flux 2 is censored and Flux 3.0 whatever the fuck its called, I don't even know, and I DON'T EVEN CARE will be censored hahahaha WHAT A LOSER
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>>109359830
>>109359853
>yeah but two levels of censorship in the model and api
I'm not paying for API ever, and because of my preferences and the people I associate with as a result of that, I can get free unlimited seedance 2.5 right now an I'm not using it because I'm burnt out

>>109359837
>Flux can't even do porn
There's plenty of lewd and hot to generate that's not pornographic. I prefer to generate unique lewd and candid perspectives that would require me to stalk a child in real life to obtain otherwise. These perspectives are completely SFW and basically uncensorable

>>109359844
>do you happen to believe in Santa Claus
I believe my eyes. I'm not expecting this model to actually be released by the way. Right now I'm taking the FLUX 3 announcement as proof that there's nothing special in Chinese video models, it's purely a compute and capital limitation at the moment. This was not the case when the original Sora demo and Sora 2 came out where OpenAI was genuinely technologically ahead by a few months
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>lil bro wont give his ssn and photo id when he shares his credit card's password with the bank whenever he has to make a transaction
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>>109359854
haha, pimple faced nigga
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>>109359910
Krea 2 fags don't even have credit cards lol what losers
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Krea 2 is actually good. Sorry guys.
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WHERE ARE THE FINETUNES ASDASDASDAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>posts 1200x1920 rocky texture slop
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>>109359953
Krea 2 isn't powerful enough, sorry
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Krea 2 is so good it doesn't even needs finetunes
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Can anyone gen some cool cyberpunk boys and girls for me? my GPU is too bad to do it.. also are there any local mods that are powerful enough to generate wallpaper resolutions nowadays?
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Shut up nigga you dumb
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can we get a carjack meltdown going? thread is missing something
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Krea 2 WISHES it could do this
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>>109360013
oh mama
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>>109360013
>Jennifer Tilly
nice
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>>109360018
Krea fags would say she's too old. They're virgins, you see.
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>>109360026
weird flex, unc
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Nice, new namefag to filter.
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>>109360034
Pretty hot I just someone almost like her.
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>>109360034
You've just changed the file name to FOOL the people. That is obviously a ZIT image. No way Krea is that good.
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>>109359809
Anyone else using this thread as social practice before trying to approach a girl in real life?
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>>109360047
That would not end well.
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>>109359996
I've tried Krea 2 up to 5 MP, at that resolution it doesn't work so well.
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>>109360047
>sup babe what's your favourite local AI image generation model?
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>>109360056
Try Z Image. It works really well. At 5 MP and beyond.
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>>109360056
Wow who is beautiful girl in image? you? can you show bobs?
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>>109360047
yes, shaming Julien and impersonating Catjack has overcome my shyness.
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>>109360066
>i'm a krea kind of girl teehee
how do you respond?
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>>109360163
By beating her to death.
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>>109360163
Turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>109360047
So, what do you do for a living?
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>>109360080
is that why you had a meltdown about Julien when you were working your mcshift?
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>>109360188
*she pulls out pepper spray*
*sprays you in the mouth*
*you cry*
*she pulls out her snub nose revolver out of her purse and shoots you dead*
good game

>>109360193
sure, michael jackson
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>>109360198
Professional cook (not chef)
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>>109360214
Women can't shoot guns, white knight faggot
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>>109360047
No i train my propaganda skills since 4 years here (very successful i might say)
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>>109360215
that just means you work at mcdonalds

>>109360228
that's actually one of the few things they're really good at. look it up.
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>>109360233
then why don't I believe you
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>>109360198
I'm a paid ComfyUI shill for local models.
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>>109360237
Yeah, women are better than men with guns.
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>>109360254
because you don't know that i'm the actual schizo anon
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>>109360260
in specific scenarios. they should not be trusted to breach or handle high stress situations with guns. they just happen to be good at aiming.
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>>109360259
>local models
if the API and cloud variety right?
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>>109360276
I don't know. Women tend to de-escalate situations better than men in many cases so they often don't even need to use the guns.
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>>109360301
You're not de-escalating a man screaming "ZIT is better Krea sucks" as he is shooting at you and running inside a house to hole up.
There's a reason there's so few women in Swat; it's not because they can't shoot. They cannot handle high stress it's also why so few women are actually good chefs despite being good cooks.
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>>109360337
incel lol
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>>109360354
>noooo u cant be truthful about the differences between men and women!
>INCEL!
kek. I found the troon
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Retard here, why is Krea2 loading faster than other models? This isn't muh my model vs muh your model, when starting it takes much less time to load than Z or 9b, which is weird because it's larger/as large.
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Can I get a QRD about the state of video gen after Wan 2.1 released?
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>>109360337
I bet there will be plenty of women in SWAT in a decade or tw, but I don't know, maybe you're right I'm not an expert on women's psychology.
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>>109360376
Because its a weak model. It has nothing to load.
ZIT takes longer because its better. Use ZIT.
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Are there any ZiT models that aren't obsessed with nipples? Or is there some way to prompt around it?

I tried 3-4 random ones and they literally will draw nipples on the outside of clothes. Even with "SFW No nudity" in the prompt?
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>>109360403
The zit popped. Move on.
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>>109360426
Skill issue
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>>109360385
Wan 2.2 released and superseded 2.1
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>>109360427
When Krea dies, ZIT will be true model
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>>109360446
when krea dies the zit will still have already been popped.
we'll all be chanting bigasp or some other bigboogaloo model and you'll be seething at those next.
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>>109360446
It'll be irrelevant in a couple of months. The only things that are worth saving are your prompts and datasets.
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>>109360439
Anything else?
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Soooo... no then.
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>>109360573
Local video has been stagnant
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>>109360076
You'll have to buy the magazine or run wan 2.2 by yourself.
>>109360385
Wan 2.2 released and it was better. LTX 2.3 has sound but it is a difficult model from what I've tested.
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>>109360516
Flux3 hype announcement. nobody is saying how big it is so probably too big for consoomer gpus
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>>109360573
>>109360580
everyone is going all in on LLMs, hoping they will achieve the superintelligence needed to deliver a major technological breakthrough, after which every field will benefit
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>>109360438

HALP THEN
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>>109360385
>State of video gen

All prior models useless, Flux.3 announced and will be here in a month (on par with Seedance 2)
https://xcancel.com/cheatyyyy/status/2080044552329859394#m
https://streamable.com/3zadu7
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>>109360605
flux 2 was pushing the limit, but with vram tricks it's just a question of sys ram
not that flux 2 is worth a damn so my expectations are tempered on all sides
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>>109360653
No, just use Krea.
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>>109360655
must suck for those lingbot folks.
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>>109360655
>no pornographic examples
doa
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>>109360696
No need of porn, but somebody removing a piece of clothing would be very revealing of the physics knowledge of the model. Disappearing clothes get boring.
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>>109360298
Wow so good! Best image in this thread.
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Krea 2 WISHES it looked like this.
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>>109359823
hell no, i would only pay for it if allows nsfw like the current version seedance2.
https://litter.catbox.moe/nvwvbo.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/3hn3gn.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/ezygrw.mp4
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Can i have some muscle mommies pls?
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>>109360775
are you sure that's not LTX. the seedance stuff I've seen has been much better :)
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>>109360696
Don't really care whether it can handle porn

>>109360731
Physics knowledge that it has shown already far exceed expectations.

https://xcancel.com/makeitrad1/status/2080671278994997567#m
https://xcancel.com/AIWarper/status/2080681235425493243#m
https://xcancel.com/ostrisai/status/2080653171781980491#m

Even if they censor it at release, it won't be difficult to decensor it. Physics and world knowledge were by far the bottleneck for every model we had, and this model excels at that. Also why it is true that Seedance 2 could do porn when jailbroken, don't forget it could do some wild stuff due to its physics knowledge

https://xcancel.com/nickvnturi/status/2042345384299892828#m
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>>109360749
??
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>>109360775
It won't be hard to decensor the model anon, it's a video model that understands physics, literally within a month or even sooner it might be decensored like Hunyuan, etc...
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>>109360829
What appears to be the problem?
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>>109360819
I just hope it's not 80B parameters.
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>>109360819
I remember one anon had shared a video of a cute Asian girl showing around her room made by Seedance. It wasn't NSFW but it was sensual enough. A realistic model will aways be capable of goon material whether censored or not.
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>>109360857
that depends more on you than anything else
did you know that some human beings find feet erotic? I swear that's true
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>>109360875
even fartfags make more sense but hey more power to you
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>>109360842
Is that image not a Krea 2 image?
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>>109360887
feet can be decorated and are attached the the legs. farts are literal poop particles.
get the fuck outta here nigga
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how many pictures do I need for a lora that can do a puppet 2D rig for blender.
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>>109360918
feet a fungus sponges and girl farts have a very unique scent
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>>109360900
janny is in the (hot)pocket of bigKREA and will nuke any gen that isn't krea 2. you need to label your kino as krea to get them past the filter.
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>>109360932
im not even a footfag I just think you're an actual retard if you think poo smellers are better than feet smellers
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>>109360819
just looked at the videos, it seems just as shitty as ltx
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>>109360937
I see.
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you guys are fucking disgusting
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>>109361030
says the fart smella
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https://xcancel.com/BrentLynch/status/2080359232160120942#m

Why are these Plebbitors so delusional kek
>Two runs of Seedance against FLUX3 says a lot.

Well yeah, of course if you take an unreleased model that's in the process of being polished and compare it to a an API model, of course API is gonna win quality wise. The Flux.3 side resolution is just not there yet, but we don't know what settings were used in the generation (certainly not what is shown in BFL's trailer or across every video), and BFL are in the process of improving the res by further tuning the model. Plus the Flux.3 side can be better prompt engineered for camera movement/angles, all these models understand "fixed camera", "slow panning and zooming".
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>>109360819
I'm going to laugh if they rugpull everyone by having it being a paywall like every other good model ever.
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>>109361099
That said, we've seen variable resolution videos, some look good, other look bad, so either the API is changing those settings, or the model needs a simple tune on higher quality videos (completely normal for a base model to need that)
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>be anon
>smell fart
>get horny
literally why
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you gotta temper your hype for Flux.3
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>>109361099
didnt they say flux 3 is still training anyway?
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>>109361117
BFL thinks it is in a good enough state already to be used and that's what matters, don't fool yourself into thinking it will be significantly better at full release
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>>109361114
homosexuals are aroused be everything related to assholes
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>>109361128
pls wat do u use to generate the prompts
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>>109361142
remember when the same researchers said sd3 was going to change everything and was the best model ever?
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>>109361114
hi ani
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flux 3
https://files.catbox.moe/y28kd4.mp4
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>>109361151
cumfart said that yes
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>>109361099
>No one is sharing their FLUX 3 prompts!!
All he wants to post is
>Seedance is le better!
Actual certified paid Seedance shills
>>109361142
A model that undergoes DPO on HQ videos only outputs HQ videos, it will be better.
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>>109360819
i don't give a shit about these goofy artsy cooperate normie shit. can it do body transformation, furry shit, body possessions, gaintess, vore, ryona? it understand physics but does truly understand the anatomy logic organic and in inorganic beings.
https://gofile.io/d/2hY0h8
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>>109361173
No. No. No. No. No. And No.
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>>109361164
omnihead girl blowbang video much needed now
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big problems regarding flux 3 that no one is talking about:
can it do porn?
if its a big model, will it be feasible to create loras or finetune it so it can do porn?
can it do i2v?
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>>109361191
Flux 2 couldn't.
What do you think big brain?
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>>109361198
how do you know his name is brain?
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>>109361191
we are getting a noise garbled diaper weight from chodestone
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>>109361173
transformation fetishists and people who are transgendered have a 99% overlap, have you spoken with a therapist about this? it's never too late to start HRT
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>>109361206
I know all.
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trans rights are human rights we respect everyone here
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>>109361198
maybe they had a change of heart due to community pushback and added porn to the flux 3 dataset
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>>109361151
Didn't sd3 come out after BFL split from SAI
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>>109361173
>seedance 2 nsfw

You realize that as long as you're linking videos associated with a censored API model that probably cost a fortune to generate and you can't actually replicate with the same prompts, it doesn't count right? There's no such thing as Seedance "NSFW". Just as there is no real text to image NSFW API model (realism wise). Flux.3 will see all kinds of degenerate tunes with real NSFW.
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>>109361221
after they safety cucked it but before release
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>>109361218
I actively give trans escorts HIV on the regular then I come home and gen real women
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>>109361232
It really won't. It'll be bloated and unusable.
We'll never fully see a true NSFW AI video model.
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>>109361232
Anons need to stop coping with their censored API models, they won't be relevant and having to jailbreak them for basic stuff just for all jailbreaks to stop working when the API overlords kill the model has never been cool. Sora 2 was DOA, Seedance 2 following the same path.
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how small would flux 3 need to be to avoid DOA?
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>>109360056
wawaowaowa
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>>109361179
then its not at seedance 2 level nor no where near it. its basic sora 2 and maybe seedance 1.5 tier model at best. I doubt its truly it's sora 2 level, they most likely cucked out in using high quality training data from establish ips, movie scenes and famous people. Ai video models is just a red tape the western ai labs don't want to touch anymore for a variety of reasons.
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>>109361249
24gb I would imagine would be the limit for most people
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>>109361258
Yeah, I don't see it. No way do they let us make AI videos or movies. It'll kill Hollywood.
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>>109361099
you realize that the only gens we've seen out of flux 3 are the api model, right? just the same as with flux.1, kontext, and 2. not a single person has tried out the actual open-weight dev model. making comparisons about seedance vs flux vs api or whatever doesn't even matter because it's like arguing gpt-2 vs nano banana in a local threat.
local will get scraps as always, worse than everything we've been shown.
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>>109361249
if its truly seedance level? 200B+ ish. That is where a int4 convrot on 128GB ram stops working
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>>109361247
A LoRA is all it will need, cloud GPUs are easy to acquire.

Besides, the Chinks can still release open models. Tencent for instance have trained all their video models on smut, or just enough. They were always a step of ahead of Alibaba with lack of synthetic datasets, and will probably get good too.
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>>109361267
My low stakes conspiracy is they show us a really advanced high tech AI model to lure you into download and shill their model, only for it to be a waste of time locally, Because the governments and Hollywood have the REAL models under lock and key.
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>comfy takes 2 extra GB of VRAM out of the blue and starts offloading
what the fuck
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the new ltx release already got memory holed
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>>109361289
who knows, they now know what they have to fight against to be viable as a company. Lets just hope they improved their shitty vae
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So cant' train on Runcomfy anymore.
Krea 2 RAW is restricted.
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>>109361277
https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/HunyuanVideo-1.5

I'll never understand this model not taking off for porn over Wan. It was lightweight, had the right spirit, and wasn't slopped. Plus if you weren't a VRAMlet you could 1080p videos
https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/HunyuanVideo-1.5#-more-examples

It wasn't perfect but you could do hot short snippets on par with Seedance, and if it were decensored it would've been amazing.
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>>109361308
horrible quality, horrible vae, very slow gens
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>>109361308
If I remember correctly it was pretty slow compared to wan.
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>>109361308
>>109361316
now kandinsky 20B, that model could do amazing detailed porn out of the box. But it was even slower
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>>109361279
it's not even a schizo theory, BFL's own published benchmarks admit the local models are deliberately neutered to be worse than what they show with their api.
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>>109361308
It was horrible to use what are you talking about? You needed sage attention, torch compile, tea cache, enhance a video and block swapping just to get it usable and it was so fucking SLOOOOOOW
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>>109361248
seedance 2 in current state does allows full nudity and references(non prominent people, non-copyrighted material and ai generated people). I'm aware the model can get safety cucked at anytime but do you have serious money to buy rtx 6000 pro to run flux 3 at nvfp4. Better hope there will be kijai and wan2gp optimization tricks that develop. Don't expect the average anon have 24gb, 32gb, 48gb or even 96gb vram to run flux 3. Also lora training will be nearly impossible without runpod which at the moment is running very low on supply of gpus.
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>>109361308
Alibaba have been utterly detrimental to local video gen. No one pays attention when better models from better devs are out

Now there's also this

https://technology.robbyant.com/lingbot-video

But that is massive 30 MoE, not lightweight
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localkeks fear uncensored API. the truth is nobody gives a shit about 'owning the weights', we just want uncensored gens. if an API provides a better uncensored result, we will use that. just like how claude opus ruled the NSFW LLM scene and nobody cried that it wasn't local, because output quality comes first.

actual freetarded boomers are in for a rude awakening once less and less censored API models (novelai) start emerging. we don't care about linux or training or any of that crap, just give us a quality uncensored model that works. it just so happens that local has been the only provider of that so far, but things are changing.
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>>109361366
the issue with that model is not size. Wan2.2 is bigger. Its cause that does not have a distill lora and its still only 5 secs with no audio which people are tired of
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why is the stupid nigger retard lodestones such a useless nigger faggot
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>>109361099
>How do you know BFL is shitting on a plate? It's not even out yet.
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>>109361381
>'owning the weights'
I kind of do care. I want people to be able to host their own and not worry about it changing randomly. Not to mention it's useful for preservation. We can still use SD1.5 but older API models? Can't use them at all anymore.
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>>109361366
not supported by cumfart. he abandoned the implementation. at least sdcpp has it and probably for the best since it supports gguf ootb
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>>109361339
>horrible to use what are you talking about
What? Lol generation on its was faster than RAW Wan 2 because it's only a single model that's being inferenced, not two (and regardless of how much you want to cope with lightx2v, it makes the videos significantly worse). Its physics knowledge far exceeded what Wan was capable of outputting (due to its slow mo and training on slop). That video I genned of Asian girl bouncing on jump ropes was like 500p initially, upscaled to 1080p, and it looked more half-decent than Wan from that process alone (I imagine running the 720p or 1080p model, the model would simply be undefeated).
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why does he always try to pit llmbros and imagebros against eachother as if they arent mostly the same people
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>>109361390
well he's providing insider info about flux 3, and he's strongly hinting that the local one will once again be an untrainable distilled piece of shit deliberately designed to sabotage finetuning efforts.
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no comfy ui and wan2gp support. no huggingface demo space to even test it out. DOA . the cutoff limit for local video and image generation needs to be at 20-25B parameter mark. Anything above that nearly impossible for anyone to run in a quantized format. ltx 2, ltx2.3, sulphur and eros at fp8 is 27-28.5gb while fp4 is around 20gb.
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>>109361435
using local image makes sense, but local LLM users are actual retards. if you're buying $30k worth of 3090s to run llama 3, you're fried in the brain.
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>>109361435
llm bros are eating good and we aren't because we support the same retards that stagnate the space over and over again
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>>109361438
distills should always be a lora imo. I've never used a single model where you weren't better off either using the provided turbo lora or diffed weights lora.
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>>109361456
Gemma 4 exists my guy.
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>>109361438
>well he's providing insider info
I bet the only thing he's done is sent a single message and has not received a response. Until he or you posts a screenshot I'm calling bullshit. Fuck off discordtroon.
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>>109361465
BFL doesn't actually like local, they're just stuck with the baggage because of the nvidia deal and their past association with SAI. they will do everything they can to make the local releases as immune to finetuning and community-building as possible. not a single BFL model ever managed to gather an NSFW community, yet we've had Wan, Anima, Zit, and Krea all manage fine.
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>using gemma
>not using chatgpt
ngmi
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>>109361490
heard gpt-oss is good for code and not much else
no value for image gen at least
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>>109361416
Just sad, but I'm not surprised. He probably sold out to Alibaba and co long ago, while the model is not VRAMlet friendly this is truly bizarre behavior.
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>>109361490
I use chatgpt but if you're actively fighting against open models you're stupid as all hell.
Yeah let's just let the corporations and government fully mandate what these models can and can't do.
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>>109361486
Anima isn't better at nsfw than illustrious and can't be fine tuned or it just collapses when you do. What a fucking disappointment that was
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>>109361510
I was referring to Gemma specifically

It's not good
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>>109361503
Comfy is just lazy or finds more enjoyment making people with 24gb vram suffer his dynamic vram ooming and hiding proper configs behind random ass flags
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>>109361438
>well he's providing insider info about flux 3, and he's strongly hinting that
give me one reason why i should believe he knows what your are saying he knows
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>>109361518
still has more attention and interest than all of BFL's garbage combined, including kekstone's "it's the next big base model!!!" chroma
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no ZIT gens, no LingBot gens, really makes you think
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>>109361523
Do you get to park in the handicap spots?
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>>109361518
>and can't be fine tuned or it just collapses when you do.
Has anon found prrof of this yet or
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>>109361538
he has been a part of the BFL testing group for ages, along with the rest of them like mcmonkey. just because you're an outcast retard who thinks /sdg/-2.0 is still the epicenter of local development doesn't make it true.
flux 3 dev will release untrainable and distilled and i will come to laugh at all of you retards who put your faith in BFL for the 4th time only to be burned yet again.
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>>109361542
everyone moved on to krea except vramlets who went back to illustrious
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>>109361548
no one is using a model called "LingBot"
it sounds like a troll
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>>109361554
No...
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stinky thread
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>>109361556
all the major finetuners showing what happens and saying it's shit? didn't you see all the screenshots but refused to believe them because you can't accept reality? can you show me a full e261 fine-tune of anima? surely it's ready by now, it's been long enough
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>>109361560
>i will come to laugh at all of you retards who put your faith in BFL
i dont i just think kekstone is a fag but im sure you will still come here on release and spam the thread pretending like more than a single anon actually thought nuflux would be good
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>>109361560
>mcmonkey
and mcmonkey is the one that posted a bunch of those flux 3 gens as well
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>>109361581
also lodestone is part of the other "groups" that also have access like comfy. He was semi recently given 2 rtx 6000 pro's by comfy btw
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kekstone and the rest are incompetent, but i 100% believe they're right about flux 3 being distilled once again. bfl will never release something that can be used for NSFW at levels better than wan 2.2
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>>109361573
Nice bulge.
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>>109361560
>Distilled, untrainable
Doesn't stop momentum. Even if they release a distilled model it will be more fuel for China to step up and release a model that's just as good, undistilled (its base model). Last time it happened we got Klein.
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>>109361573
boring but on topic.
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>>109361575
>it's been long enough
Considering it's been two month since base, and it took 16 months to go from SDXL to NoobAI-XL eps (one more to get to vPred), no it has not been long enough kek. And I'm sure all those "major finetuners" have no reason to easily give up on someone else's model and instead develop their own... No reason whatsoever
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>>109361598
And he is the one person who made decent models and is still around training krea 2 now on the RTX 6000 pros comfy gave him. Illustrious team tried to monetize which then went to shit and disappeared, and astralight was a retard
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>>109361575
>all the major finetuners showing what happens
they had to be pressed into admitting they didnt freeze the adapter per the authors instructions and then cried about it they are too prideful
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>>109361607
But if the model is distilled we can say goodbye to any chance of the model being as good as Seedance, just not happening with a distillation. I wonder why no other "insider" has commented on this. Surely, someone can make an anonymous twitter account and leak the details (like that Chink model anime guy)
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>>109361615
>Illustrious team tried to monetize which then went to shit and disappeared
I don't get it, wtf were they thinking. There are people in their group that know what they are doing, but for some reason even the z-finetune failed
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>>109361646
the shoenice special
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>>109361647
it's only local until it's good. they realized illustrious 3.5 was good, so it stopped being local.
the problem is 'good' for an XL model is shit compared to everything else, and they decided to switch to API way too late. the same scenario with happyhorse, qwen 3, etc. mid-tier models that can't compete with the top players yet sold out to api to chase the bytedance bux
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>>109361646
alright lets get this on the tray
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Why are localfags all waitfags that ditch any halfway promising model for the next thing instead of actually sticking to one model long enough to do some finetunes for once
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>>109361663
>they realized illustrious 3.5 was good, so it stopped being local.
I have actually used these models. The explanation is something else
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https://files.catbox.moe/izqjfp.mp4
>>109361663
they tried to make it profitable and had people wanting profit funding them. Lodestone said from the getgo finetuning was not profitable and did not expect to make money. Chroma cost him 120K to train. Now he is training slower local only
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Why does anon feel the need to b8 this thread so hard and so often
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>>109361673
sooo you're saying we should wait for finetunes instead of waiting for newer better models?
we're waiting either way nigga
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I'm gonna train a finetune of Flux 3 focused on poop and call it ScatGPT
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>>109361673
because nobody wants to dump millions of dollars on a dead architecture and wind up with chroma 1.
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>>109361684
why does he invest so much money doing his retarded Frankenstein experiments that fail every time instead of doing just a fucking finetune
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>>109361633
they tried with turdRuss's instruction. it's a garbage model made by a guy that doesn't understand image models
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>>109361685
implying theres ever a reason other than untreated mental illness/boredom
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>>109361646
the whisk goes on the left, philistine
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>>109361673
some models are DOA on arrival/get outdated fast and wasting time on them is a waste of energy and money
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>>109361692
broooooooootal.
Honestly though for a flux1 finetune Chroma was a revolution. It's a shame that we have to start from scratch with each model.
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>>109361640
>But if the model is distilled we can say goodbye to any chance of the model being as good as Seedance
As long as the smallest gguf distill is ≥ WAN 2.7, I couldn't care less.
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>>109361704
>they tried with turdRuss's instruction
first time thats been posted here, prove it :]
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https://litter.catbox.moe/nygcuo.jpg
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>>109361728
local is saved
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>>109361548
>no LingBot gens
Downloading the light version rn
https://huggingface.co/realrebelai/LingBot_ComfyUI
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>>109361718
>Honestly though for a flux1 finetune Chroma was a revolution.
*flux schnell
it was still way too hard to control for the average genner even moreso than normal pretrained models
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>>109361703
what experiments that fail? He ripped out part of flux 1 which was wasteful and did nothing but bloat the model and then undistilled it before training it to the best base model before krea 2. His vae-less chroma is still training but slowly locally and many companies have tried copying his creation but were bad cause they did not feel like spending long enough to train it (it takes far longer to train but final quality should be 100% that of the training data)
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>>109361725
sure. I searched for a fine-tune of anima and all there is is here slopmixes and <10k image finetunes that look worse. doesn't make much sense to defend a model that had every major finetrooner give up on it because it's shit. you can prove me wrong if you provide any news of anybody finding success otherwise cope and seethe tRan
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>>109361725
I don't think he has made any instructions for finetune. But I did try the settings used by the "serious semi-professional finetuners" that were on the discord screencaps. Result: fried the base model under 3 hours. Bless those guys hearts, pure mental retard strength.
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>>109361737
use the official sdcpp implementation
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haha okay ani calm down now
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not clicking on a single connally gen anymore

this general has been ruined
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>>109361765
that is one overcooked image.
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>>109361769
Ani is right if it's him. If it's not then anon is still right
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>>109361765
I'm super attracted to soles of feet, but i find feet that are actively standing disgusting.
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>>109361780
Ani is right about everything and it drives the looney troon baker crazy lol
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>>109361765
this gen is so greasy I have to clean my monitor now
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>discord tranny zoomer retard is afraid of hairy women
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>>109361760
><10k image finetunes that look worse.
aesthetic tunes look bad more news at 11
>you can prove me wrong if you provide any news
>>109361613
>no it has not been long enough kek.

>cope and seethe tRan
consession accepted
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Imagine that Flux 3 is by some miracle usable for your goals. What would you use it for?
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>>109361777
This looks like the kind of face that when flipped upside down looks like another face
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>>109361799
you got me. enjoy being a trans woman. glad you are accepting of yourself, it can be hard being half black, retarded and trans
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>>109361809
bibicis
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>>109361809
slightly improved pizza creation.
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>>109361809
My goals
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>>109361809
why ask this question when it clearly will not be
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>>109361809
it won't be able to do nsfw so I will wait for the the finetunes that won't happen
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>>109361799
>>cope and seethe tRan
>consession accepted
did you just agree you are the tranny baker?
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>>109361809
gonna gen lewd videos of your mom
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>>109361809
Porn.
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>lolcow accuser becomes the real lolcow
many such cases
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>>109361809
How much do they pay you per post
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>>109361846
50 buzz
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>>109361825
i can understand why someone with mental illness would think that
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>>109361853
yes my admission of defeat is by you accepting and agreeing that you are the faggot that can't prove your schizo rants about two anons are true let alone anima is able to be fine tuned when overwhelming evidence has been posted proving otherwise. you won! you are accepted as a failure who is jealous of someone who just posts news to the threads kek. Thank you for the transparency catjack, we all know we should bully you with boogeymen mentions. Ani was right
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Krea 2 is so good I don't even have to gen anymore, I know exactly what it will look like just from the prompt
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>>109361853
Debo is more skilled than you. you have to prove otherwise
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holi melti lole
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>>109361892
same, Krea2 is so good I stopped genning and just started going outside to enjoy life now
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>>109361853
>>109361897
Concession accepted. Ani was right
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>>109361836
damn didn't realize she's 67.
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>>109361894
does that retard still post here? I filtered him forever ago
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>>109361853
You really did him with this
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>>109361910
then why do you unhide it to have melties about it all the time?
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>>109361532
>finds more enjoyment making people with 24gb vram suffer his dynamic vram ooming
He makes people with beefy vram and ram also suffer because the thing unloads everything at the slightest whim for no reason other than it's broken.
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>>109361920
melties? what does that mean? I'm not ice cream.
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>>109361913
I don't get it. Why would you believe a schizo troon's opinion on anything? Oh wait you are "her". Apologies ma'am
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>>109361925
>I'M NOT HAVING A MELTDOWN
>(proceeds to melt down)
you are trying too hard. how about take a break from spreading your troon drama for a couple of threads because this is extremely underage behavior
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Looks like the arguing bots have been activated again.
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>>109361942
I made two posts?
>>109361925
>>109361910
Why are you freaking out? Is this what they call projection?
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>>109361950
>Why are you freaking out?
He has mental illness see >>109361853 and his reply >>109361885
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holy autism
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>>109361950
forgot you have multiple personalities. nobody in their right mind would engage in troonjack topics if it isn't a troll or three troon the self. don't be either if you can help it
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>>109361957
I think you should stop trooning around here. I don't think you can handle actual discussion
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Somebody needs his meds or needs to be hospitalized. People like this are dangerous; thank god I only interact with them through the screen.
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>>109361967
>three troon the self
*the troon themself*

I'm phone posting in my way back from work, sue me
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This melty schizo posting stops right now.
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>>109361991
it's going to be in the next OP unless we all agree to get rid of the schizo rentries. they use it as a shield to shit up the threads and this has gone on for years. all of you need to grow up and end it because site moderation can't be relief on for anything
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I tried the latest Zeta Chroma, kit's not completely terrible, maybe in a few years it'll be serviceable
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>>109361910
retard here
still posting
always winning
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>>109361999
The rentries will stay in the OP forever.
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Flux.3 anime fight scene
https://xcancel.com/Lars_pragmata/status/2080747250649567244#m
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>>109362011
then tran will continue being the thread lolcow forever
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>>109362018
areolas, nipples and pubic hair are not allowed, dummy
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>>109362020
and that's a good thing
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>>109362011
>troons out outta nowhere
CATJACK! I HAVE A QUESTION!!!!
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>>109362001
fuck off
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>>109362015
eh
i mean not bad i guess
but eh
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>>109362015
Samurai kino
https://xcancel.com/cfryant/status/2080643583204331599#m
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>>109362029
I don't want the thread to be focused on a delusional tranny's schizo theories unrelated to the general. Weird that you do
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>flux 3
oh we can post api gens here??
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>>109361493
Glorious JCon. I can digitally tweeze a few eyebrow hairs if I feel the need.
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>>109362034
mmm no
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>>109362042
But it gives us something to talk about in between new models
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>>109361760
painful reality is that all the based lora bakers and slop checkpoint bakers are sticking to sdxl illustrious and anima. krea2 lora scene is dry as fuck and now I'm forced to the 1girl loras i desperate want myself. The local image/video gen scene is now a fragmented mess of vramlets, vram mid-rangers and vram chads doing their own sperate grift for neet bucks.
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>>109361804
Cool pulp fiction style.
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>>109362052
>>109362052
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Some Persian coomer prompted for Flux.3 1girl vlog type video
https://xcancel.com/CallMeDiegoJr/status/2080720398941929788#m
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>>109362027
I need it back. I didn't save it. And everything was covered. I can't get it to gen without full nipple now.
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>>109362096
>everything was covered
her aerolas were not
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>>109362108
they were 80% covered, why are you so sensitive? do you have it?
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>>109362131
not good enough obviously and I don't care it was a shit gen anyways
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>>109361151
The team that founded BFL was no longer involved in SD3 training, and I still remember how automatic1111 got kicked out of the SD Discord because he made NAI Leak compatible with his software and then hung out with us.
BFL is to Diffusion what Elvis was to rock music. It’s no coincidence that Rombach is the most cited researcher in this field. Muh.
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>>109360056
oh my, she prefect
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>>109361622
look like my sinuses
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>>109363050
I feel very sorry, if its allergic take budesonide, I have allergic rhinitis and the medication is a blessing, it doesn't cause rebound symptoms upon discontinuation and has a pretty safe profile



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