How do we fix USB-C?
>>109365974>from simple charging wires to sophisticated, expensive data transfer toolswow, some are charging only and some have charging and datawhat a crazy world, so sophisticated and makes me so angry, I hate usb-c
how do we fix faggot screenshot threads?
>>109365974what is there to fix? It just werks
>>109365974I knew people would start hating on USB-C when it started becoming the standard. This why meaningless government interventions like you see in the EU are stupid.>How do we fix USB-C?We don't.
>>109365974Her face is asking for punches.
good thing some retard mandated this shitty standard to be used in all phones
>>109366410After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usb. Ideally they'd have a standard that's both tight and unidirectional in the way you can plug it in. >This why meaningless government interventions like you see in the EU are stupid.Why do americans always seethe about the good parts of the EU but never the enforced gayness or chat control?
single worst piece of shit connector i've ever used, at least micro-usb's prongs actually worked as a retaining mechanism if your port was clean
>>109365974>buy a few known-good cables (100W, 10 gbps is a good baseline; maybe one TB5 for ultra fast transfers and connecting displays)>toss out all othersspending like $100 once every decade really that much?
>>109366488>After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usb.never had thisi even used several secon hand phoneshave you tried no dancing with mohammed ali while the usbc is coitus with your phone in your pocket?
>>109366488>After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usbI dearly hope it's baitgoing back to usb-a or usb-b, I could believe (assuming they're fast). micro usb? lol lmao pox upon your family
>>109365974>sloppa deliberately included in the screenshotkys
>>109366488> Why do americans always seethe about the good parts of the EU but never the enforced gayness or chat control?Nope, I am a Eurosceptic living in Europe. I am not against useful regulation, and I am not advocating for the American capitalism.However, we are regulating ourselves out of a future. These laws are weaponized by big corporations to flood smaller, up and coming competitors with paperwork and legal overhead that only they can afford to navigate.Here is an example: Microsoft actively lobbied for the DMA with the intent to handicap rivals like Apple and Google:https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12418-Digital-Services-Act-package-ex-ante-regulatory-instrument-of-very-large-online-platforms-acting-as-gatekeepers/F2256709_enAnd discussed by analysts here: https://cepa.org/article/europes-dma-a-protectionist-weapon/ TLDR; EU regulation is just a giant battle ground for Big US corporation to throw the book at one another while negatively effecting European businesses.
>>109366410The obvious issue is the standard is basically useless if it only defines the ports and ignores the specs of the inside.
>>109366764>The obvious issue is the standard is basically useless if it only defines the ports and ignores the specs of the inside.Also a very good point, but they can't say freeze what USB-C can do at the making of the law.
>>109366410I have one charger for most devices now. how is that useless?I'm literally using the same charger for my phone, my tablet and two laptops.I'm old enough to remember these (Sony Ericsson one sucked ass,too easily disconnected).
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>>109366950>I have one charger for most devices now. how is that useless?>I'm literally using the same charger for my phone, my tablet and two laptops.>I'm old enough to remember these (Sony Ericsson one sucked ass,too easily disconnected).Pretty much a bad faith, This was happening far before the EU made it a mandate, the only one who wasn't interested in it was apple, even corporations like Nintendo were moving to USB-C as a standard even them and they are the apple of gaming.
>>109366404USB-C connectors and sockets are garbage. There's no excuse for having a higher failure rate than connectors designed 50 years ago.
>>109366990Having a standard is good.Standardizing on USB-C was a mistake.
>>109367023Please refer to this message >>109366697How the fuck are you guys getting faillures? Oh dont tell me, you fell for the no 3.5mm-jack même.If you plug your usb-c in and dont stress it, it doesnt fail.
>>109366990>the only one who wasn't interested in it was appleand now they're required to. how is that bad? why are you accusing me of bad faith, shithead?
>>109367023they don't. never broke a usb-c connector or socket in my life.maybe don't be a neanderthal.
>>109365974make the standard a standardthat would be a good first step
>>109367055>bad faithYes! The minute I show an exception to the rule, you grasp the straws and attack me with an Ad hominem. The industry was already for the most part moving to it as a standard way before the EU mandated it, you are making it seem that it's because of the EU instead of it being a meaningless enforcement. All you could have done is just not buy an iPhone and you would have one cable for all too. Even Apple's Macbooks used usb-c at that point.
>>109365974never had a single problem with any USB-C cable or connectorseems to be an IQ problem (browns, yellows and other subhumans)
>>109365992Some cables have neither
>>109366990Apple released the first USB-C only computer in 2015, long before the competition. Lightning was and still is a better connector for mobile devices, far more durable than USB-C.
>>109367038>if you don't use it, it doesn't failThe failure rate should be EFFECTIVELY ZERO you babbling moron. There shouldn't be ANY reports of connector failures.
>>109367061Wrong.
>>109367141You should use wireless charging and wireless headphones. The USB-C port should be used maybe once or twice over the entire lifetime of a phone.
>>109367105Opposite. Discrete math is a white man thing and you don't understand how it works.
>>109367156I do. That's a cop out and just admitting I'm correct. It's a terrible design and never should have become the standard.
>>109367169Well thanks to it being codified in law, it will be the standard for the next 200 years. Your great-great-grankids will be lamenting the fact that everything they use has to have a shitty USB-C port because the people of today were so stupid.
>>109367023>There's no excuse for having a higher failure rate than connectors designed 50 years ago.Source?
>>109367159>no argumentuhu. thanks Ranjeet
>>109367023Dunno my 6 year old snamsnung phone with USBc connector still werks, might be a (you) problem or just applel seethe
>>109367285>applel seetheIt's this. Anybody who hates USB-C always turns out to be an iToddler pissed that they lost their beloved fire starting USB 2.0 connector.
>>1093659742.0 is just micro usb with a different plug. Maybe they should use colour code for different versions.
>>109367302All of this could've been avoided if the standard just mandated markings on the connectors describing the speed, whether it's for charging or data, whether it supports Thunderbolt, whether it does DP-Alt mode, etc. The ports typically have these markings, so why not the cables?
>>109365974fix? what's the problem?
>>109366950The fast port had soldering issues, T28 didn't.
>>109365974with USB-D
>>109367339DELED DIS
>>109367298What is that?Lightning is an 8-pin connector.
>>109367141My failure rate is zero.
I always thought the old apple laptop sockets with built in magnets to keep them in place so there was no need for a deep socket was the superior design, we should go to a magnet based connection for all mobile devices and remove the giant hole that allows water and dirt and lint into the interior of the devices
>>109367339>no you can't label the cables I have to be able to tell by feel because I'm blind and always carry every single cable for every use case all at once.Schizo.
this entire thread is full of bots astroturfing a smear campaign on the usb-c protocolpropping another connector?we'll see when app*e launches a new phone with THE LATEST SUPER DUPER GOOD NEW YET ANOTHER INDUSTRY STANDARD CONNECTOR
>>109367469there is no such thing as an "usb-c protocol"
>>109365974It's Apple's fault honestly. They designed a great port. If they made their port open source everyone would be using that instead but no they had to be proprietary niggers about it and now even they can't have their port.
>>109367492i fucking love burning down my house with appleshit
>>109367492usb-c got developed by Apple and Apple were the first to offer an USB-C only device.Just that it was called thunderbolt and then later the USB dudes agreed to adopt Apples connector.But don't tell this the Eastern Europen shitskins who worship old women in their globohomo government. They might get an heart attack when they realize that the EU forced everybody else to use an Apple connector.
>>109367461cry more
why are there so many women tech tubers lately?
Micro usb is easier to solder than type C.
>>109365974>How do we fix USB-C?The only way to fix it is to get rid of it. USB-C is the worst cable ever. EU communists made everyone's lives worse when they declared that only one standard should exist, and that it should be USB-C. These cables break after only two months of use. This has never happened with Micro-USB or Lightning cables.
>>109367564Are you people buying your usb c cables from Temu or something? I have mutiple years old usb c cables that are still working fine with daily use
>>109365974we add screws to both sides, like the old vga/dvi connectors.
miniUSB was the best.I never had a single one break.
>>109365974this dude sounds like cancer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkcP6reSTEwany way his problem is missing labels and yes I agree labels should be included and its retarded that the EU didnt force them when they forced usb c. Still I fail to see how its expansive isnt pic all you need?
>>109365974Linus fixed it, buy his cable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT_iyvOy0Tk
>>109367634>pic of a cheapo shit cable without strain relief that some German put a sticker on
>>109367703show me a good one then
>>109367708>good>usb-cThere is none.But if you want one that is less shit, just make sure that it has a strain relief, this one >>109367696 actually does, lol
>>109367339This same logic can be applied to ethernet as well, except ethernet cables label their speeds on the cables themselves. Basically what >>109367461 is recommending to be done. It's a better idea than making yet another plug standard and going back to the age where you have to keep a box full of various different USB connectors and adapters.
It's better than every cord before it. Except the 3.5mm jack, that one was always perfectly reliable
>>109367564>This has never happened with Micro-USBlol>or Lightning cables.lmao
>>109367564I've charged my phone and other devices with the same cable for 8 years at least and it's still in perfect condition. You might just be a retarded gorilla if you break cables ever 2 months.>>10936763440Gbps on a 3m cable is potentially stretching it, I'm not saying it's impossible or anything but you're in the area where you cannot confidently believe that you buy the cable and it just works, despite what the specs say. You might buy it and find out it just doesn't work with your devices, or it works unreliably if you actually need the 40Gbps connection. This is kind of the problem.>>109367507This is a lie, USB-C was developed by the USB forum. Apple is a member but it was Intel and a few other companies who took the lead on USB-C.>>109365974I've seen 3 main problems:1. Lack of proper labeling and USB standards after like the baseline USB3 being a complete fucking mess. Different signaling rates, different power transfer capabilities, cables branded for display signal use, thunderbolt this, thunderbolt that, it's a fucking mess.2. Lack of a good way to determine cable quality, any shop you go to has shitloads of USB-C cables available, all from random brands you have never heard of, and it's impossible to tell which are trustworthy and live up to their spec and which aren't. Not sure how to solve this, testing & some sort of official approval stamp? Tricky3. Lack of QA / reliability in the connector, kind of related to point #2, I've had cables that are extremely unreliable. Like I have a device connected to a dock and barely touching the connector can make the screen blank out, or the USB2.0 connection for peripherals drops and so on. I've had the bad luck to have a dodgy connector like this on a Dell dock with a captive cable, so the whole thing is rather useless because the connector is unreliable.There are many, super tiny contacts in there but at the same time the connector isn't super stable and has a lot of wiggle.
>>109367258You're the one with no argument because you don't understand the implications of the data.>>109367298Never owned an iPhone. File under straw man AND ad hominem.
>>109367285No, it's a problem with the samsung phone connector. Not every samsung is bad, only some, but the number should be zero. That's the part shitskins don't grasp. Can't see beyond "werks for me."
>>109366410meds now ivan
>>109367794>I've charged my phone and other devices with the same cable for 8 years at least and it's still in perfect condition. You might just be a retarded gorilla if you break cables ever 2 months.Or, get this, not every piece of hardware ships with the same quality because the USB-C standard doesn't require it. Your data point of 1 is not relevant. They aren't the gorilla they are just unlucky, in a situation where luck should play no role at all. Fucking morons.
>>109367826>shitskins can't see beyond "werks for me."Why would I give a shit about your fucked up phone when mine works fine? I don't care that you bought a shitty device. I wasn't selling it. Not my problem that you made a poor purchasing decision. Stop blaming everyone else for your own mistakes, child.
>>109366488stop banning them in the port like some retarded monkey
It will never not be amusing to think there are people that are literally incapable of ascertaining that the black one is likely incapable of thunderbolt and it's impossible to tell the difference between these two cables.
>>109367887They really should be labeled though. This problem isn't specific to USB C, but it's annoying going through several identical cables trying to find one that can do data transfer, not just charging. Your example there is obvious, but in most cases cords with different functions look exactly the same.
>>109367909>but in most cases cords with different functions look exactly the same.They don't tho, that's the thing.They should be labeled but personally I've had little issues determining what cable is which. Something like a 20gb cable feels and sometimes looks way different than a basic USB 2.0 cable.There 20 conductors is a high speed cable. You can feel that in how stiff the cable is. Sometimes you can see it as they coil the conductors internally.There should be a better way to determine but it's not nearly as bad people make it out to be.
>>109367696I mean he solved that shit his cables work that opensource video show it big time
>>109365974What needs fixing? USB-C is perfect. FUCK all forms of micro-USB, absolute dogshit meant to break. USB-C becoming the standard has been a godsend.
>>109366990>Nintendo were moving to USB-C as a standard even them and they are the apple of gaming.So true, Nintendo is known for their expensive consoles that people buy as status symbols since there are no games to play on them. Oh wait, no, that's California-based PlayStation, who literally admitted that they aspire to be the Apple of gaming. The same fags who sell their disc drive and console stand separately, to milk you for shekels.
>>109365992Retard
>>109368559I am more talking about ascetics aspects of apple.Nintendo is very similar to that, you know the console, everyone knows Nintendo (Not litterally) it's bigger than it's peers and has a bigger well known identity, and if you don't know that then you sure know Mario. You really can't say that about Xbox or Playstation.
>>109368747In that sense, Nintendo is more like the Disney of gaming. Very IP-focused, and extremely protective of said IPs. Often what people think of when they think about video games, like how Disney is often what people think of when they think of animated films.
>>109365974>morons are too stupid to choose the product they needno one, ITT: >IT'S CLEARLY BROKEN HOW DO WE FIX ITReally knee gga?
>>109367156>You should use wireless charging and wireless headphones.yes, lemme get brain cancer just to spare a stupid port
>>109365974Rethink power delivery spec, otherwise don't cheap out on shitty garbage cables.
>>109365974by making apple products illegal and putting apple lying shills to gulags, 25 years minimum
I want to slip my dih into that brown mouth big time.
>>109366031the mods do not need to delete shit threads if you stop posting in them.
>>109367591>china claims
>>109365992What if they just put both inside every cable and stopped jerking themselves off?
>>109369495yeah, let's bundle $1 0,25W usb-c lamps with 40Gbps 240W thunderbolt cables. Genius!
>>109369529I can't believe how fucking dumb you are lol
>>109369569>lets force producers to put extra copper inside their $0,01 cables because it's not like everyone has tens of spare usb-c cables already
>>109369529$1 ewaste toys should either have a permanently attached cable, or not bundle a cable at all.
>>109368597>buy the cheapest cable from the corner shop>have a melty every time you don't read the packaging
micro niggas in shambles
>>109367794they exist but you have to go fiberand pay a whole lot of money
