>>109369571
People who have security cameras in their home who use the vendor's cloud recording service have no right to talk about privacy. If you're going to have any kind of video surveillance around your own home, all the cameras had better be firewalled off from the internet. Record everything locally on a computer you own via software you control. That's the only sane way to do it.

>>109369571
lmao pakis and trannies seething they cant groom kids anymore

>>109370156
>living in the ZOGcage is based actually

>>109369571
flock managers were watching kids in private sessions through these btw

corposhills and especially jeet cent astroturfers deserve death btw

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A friend of mine bought some bulk used SD cards. Apparently they had been pulled from refurbished wifi cams that got returned to Amazon. There was all kind of things saved in a 1 gallon ziplock bag of micro SD cards.

>>109370192
This is why you should call 911 if you see a single man without a child walking within a block of a park.

>>109369571
Even worse, these are the same people who will let a doctor shove a camera up their asshole when they reach middle-age.

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>>109370156
(((Formerly Chuck's.)))

people who walk around with internet-connected security cameras in their pockets and hands are going to tell me they are real concerned about privacy

>>109371462
it's illegal to walk without yr goybrick

>>109369571
yet he doesn't seem to care about cell phone towers triangulating his location and recording it constantly and storing it. he'll keep using it because it's useful to him. just a hypocrite. probably gave his kid a phone too

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>>109371482
>triangulating his location and recording it constantly and storing it.
oh no the feds are going to jack off to my latitude and longitude coordinates of my house location and work location and grocery store location

>>109369571
liar

stupid.

You're making that up, it's not worth a thread. No, people don't put cameras on their kids, you're insane.

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>>109369571
99.99% of privacy schizos are hypocritical virtue signalers

>>109372100
>t. psycho with a camera on their kid

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>>109372100
>. No, people don't put cameras on their kids,

>>109371482
he knows what he's doing is retarded, it's just easy internet money by baiting typical retards.
trust me he knows

It makes a lot of people angry when I say this but I'm okay with surveillance in public if it means more violent criminals are actually caught and ideally prevented. I'm just tired of it okay? Stop breaking into stores or raping people, or be held accountable. I live here and would rather you not fuck it up, thanks.

>>109371401
me on the left

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>>109369571
we're just making sure the children are safe while playing, goy. you're not doing anything weird near those parks, are you? then you have nothing to worry about.

>>109372100
I can literally smell the curry

>>109373299
Serious question. For people that care, can I ask what you care about in regards to being monitored in public?
As in, what ARE you actually worried about?
I see a lot of people act concerned about being monitored but I never actually see anybody say why they would be against it.

>>109369571
if the US wasn't a utter disaster, there should've been a surpreme court decision at least a decade ago about not letting federal and state governments violate the 4th amendment through an intermediary

>>109373313
they could get my license plate if a camera caught me dragging a kid into my van

>>109373313
I can't hide in the local playground bushes anymore saar.

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>>109373313

>DUDE THE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE SPYING ON US

*iphone dings*
ALEXA ORDER MORE DOG TREATS
*updates smart TV*

but seriously bro, we need to do something

>>109373344
Abuse of power is a valid concern but that also seems like a parallel issue rather than an issue with the principle.
I'm not sure how you could/would alleviate that though. Would it be as simple as forcing workers to rotate coverage zones?

In any case, are there concerns besides abuse?
Like are there concerns with the idea of monitoring the public for the sake of safety and accountability in principle?

On one hand I really wish our society didn't NEED it to be safe, it would be much nicer if the kids could just go out and play or travel safely by themselves, but I also recognize that is not the way our societies are trending and if we must live in an unsafe society I think some protections like this would be a decent band-aid to the fundamental problem of bad actors in society.

We can think about undoing surveillance like that when people stop abusing each other and taking advantage of the amnesty of public, doing things that ruin opportunity and quality for other citizens.

But in the meantime I don't really have a problem with everyone being forced to adhere to the basics of good will, or better described as the opposite, forced to not indulge in their anti-societal behavior that negatively impacts everyone else.

>>109373367
>are there any concerns besides the only concern that matters
No. And it's not a "parallel issue", it's literally the fundamental thing everyone warned you about from day 1. Cops are above the law, cops WILL abuse the system to jerk off to your underage sister or to stalk a former girlfriend or to shake down someone they don't like etc. etc.

>>109373367
shalom post

>>109373367
There's no way this isn't an automated bot post by the feds

>>109373391
I wonder what the statistics are.
I'd rather take the chances with abuse of power from individuals within a system versus abuse of freedom from arbitrary citizens at large unrestricted and unmonitored.

It would be worth having 1 incident of abuse of power for every 10 incidents of abuse of freedom.
A reduction in harm is a step in the right direction, even if it doesn't completely reduce the harm to 0%.

>>109373407
>please laugh
Your joke is like a decade old or more. Everyone has seen it.

>>109373412
Same with you. The claims of AI are getting tired.
Bots are trained on human language. It's getting boring when people see humans talking casually and jump to conclusions it's robots. Like are you actually trolling just to goad attention or is this some kind of distraction tactic to drive us away from the topic and into bickering. Come on man, can you act normal for once.

Why do pedophiles want cameras everywhere? Is this for looking at kids? What a bunch of perverts.

>>109373425
>I'd rather take the chances with abuse of power from individuals within a system versus abuse of freedom from arbitrary citizens at large unrestricted and unmonitored.
Well I wouldn't. Just because you feel the urge to live as cattle means nothing to me.

>>109373425
>abuse of freedom
this post fried my jewish meter. I hope you take responsibility and buy me a new one.
post nose

>>109373446
The opposite actually. I want to live outside of the castle, safely. What you call a castle looks like a prison to me and we shouldn't be forced to live in it just because some savages roam free outside. Kids should be playing in the kingdom, not stuck inside their only safe bastion the castle.

It'd be nice if the public property could be as nice as my own private property, if we could just trust citizens to not abuse it when not held accountable.

>>109373455
>I need attention
I read your post. Hope it helps.

>>109373465
>I read your post. Hope it helps.
it does! at least I know you're doing what mossad pays you to do

>>109373479
Fail RP. Shills are paid to change opinion, not read yours.

>>109373465
Reread my post again.
>just because some savages roam free outside
Cops steal more through asset forfeiture than any gang and there is no recourse to defend yourself physically from them.
Crime has never been lower and has been on a downward trend, but overly hysterical women like yourself want to live with a tracker up your ass as if stalking to innocent will stop the guilty. Especially considering that most crime comes from repeat offenders, aka people who have already been caught, so them getting caught again meets nothing.
Kill yourself and save as all the trouble.

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>>109373493
I can tell you're getting frustrated with my opinions so I'll stop asking you. It make sense why you projected hysterical women while having a tizzy at words.

>>109373496
>vague posting
I'm just saying if you're going to use this place as a role play forum then at least stick to the role you're playing. The jokes are old enough you should have a script by now. Lowering post quality and all that.

>>109373504
>I can tell you're getting frustrated with my opinions so I'll stop asking you
>I can't disagree with any of your points so I'll stop talking to you.
Turn your webcam on and show us your face, we all need it to feel safer.

>>109371523
ms paint over ai slop. modern masterpiece

>>109373504
you're the one following a script, Joshua. though it's funny seeing you at least attempt at sounding like a human being

>>109373518
I'm tired of this deflection tactic.
You already pointed out that only specific people have access to this stuff, not everyone.
I have no problem with the government monitoring me, and you are not one of the appointed monitors.
Trying that tactic doesn't help convince me or anyone else. You already know this so why would you try that unless you just want to argue, not discuss. It makes me question the confidence in your own stance so how is it supposed to change my mind if that's your intention (I'm not saying you should or have to).

>>109373528
I'm just replying to you honestly while you're responding to me jokingly. You want attention, it doesn't matter what I say so I may as well tell you the truth. You might think it's fun but I don't, so I'm letting you know. It's old and boring, but if you need it, I got you.

>>109372014
>I have a geotracker on me that says where I am 24./7!

>>109373540
>I have no problem with the government monitoring me, and you are not one of the appointed monitors.
How do you know? I could be a cop, thats all the requirement is.
Hell Flock cameras don't even need to government officals, just get hired at flock and you can watch all the child at playgrounds or locker rooms you want.
>You already know this so why would you try that unless you just want to argue, not discuss
You haven't actually addressed my points, so you clearly have an agenda as opposed to engaging in actual discussion.
>t makes me question the confidence in your own stance
You already have proven to be irrational, why would I trust your judgement of my stance.

>>109373540
you sound like chatgpt now, Elijah. try working better on your prompt.

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>>109373217
>raping people, or be held accountable. I live here and would rather you not fuck it up, thanks.
That is the best part! You get spyware whitty however when muhamed kills and rapes then the police are locking down all video since it would be RACIST to accuse a nonwhite of a crime.

Here is your ticket for suspicious walking and saying racism's on the internet!

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>>109373365
Imagine being literally this meme.

>>109369571
Why do you have trouble with security cameras? Do you have something to hide?

>>109371482
>cell towers knowing your approximate location is the same as camera following you, zooming in on you and your phone screen if you have your phone out (and recording it for anyone to access).
you're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

>>109373604
first one is right though, iTards are niggercattle virtuesignalers
the other ones are literal extreme strawmanning

>>109373577
>How do you know? I could be a cop, thats all the requirement is.
Who you are is moot, authorized or not, 4chan isn't your private office of business.

>Flock
I understand your frustration, but I think it's disproportional. Obviously we disagree though.
You think it's worth preventing the abuses of power which I feel is the minority of cases, while I think it's worth preventing the other crimes this targets.
To play to your side though, let's assume it's equal parts. I honestly would rather a pervert watch them through a camera, than have the them be victims of a preventable physical crime. And in cases where they do fall victim, at least there is potential for punishment while without evidence there is none. A clean uncaught physical crime, versus a non-tangible crime akin to thought crimes in my eyes.
To get ahead of the game, I'll say this is not a defense of the latter. It is a judgment on risks versus value and frequency.

>>109373580
Check the script, we covered that already in act 2 >>109373425

>>109373584
I think your post counters your own point.
Let's assume the people monitor the public and private sectors, but authority doesn't take action
I think it would be better for the evidence to exist regardless. Even if authorities don't do anything immediately, the footage itself like you are posting, informs the public, which has long term influence towards some action being taken. By the state or the people. Through democracy or otherwise.
Allowing bad actors to go unseen when we have the technology to prevent it, seems unwise.

>>109373367
Our rights should completely override the authority of the state. You're not arguing in good faith, nobody who supports the government is.

>>109373425
>Bootlicker thinks defending arbitrary violations of our right to privacy is acting normal'.

>>109373632
>while I think it's worth preventing the other crimes this targets.
Do you have any evidence its reducing crime?
>And in cases where they do fall victim, at least there is potential for punishment
Cops and corporations are famous for their accountable to the general public.
>You think it's worth preventing the abuses of power which I feel is the minority of cases
You "feel".
You're infringing on the rights of others and giving untold power to unaccountable agents based on your "feelings".

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>>109373632
>Who you are is moot

>>109373666
I'd kill myself if I was moot also nice trips Satan.

>>109373670
thanks, Noah

>>109373632
Continuing.
>>109373577
>You haven't actually addressed my points, so you clearly have an agenda as opposed to engaging in actual discussion.
I asked for the perspective of my detractors so that I could understand them. Not argue with them.
If you want to give me insight of what you think so that I can reassess my own conclusions, that's up to you to engage with.
I tell you explicitly when you're doing something unconvincing. And if it's unconvincing to me, I would imagine it's unconvincing to anyone else whom you'd want to respect your perspective. People like law makers, or other citizens.
I'm not trying to argue but you seem to be, so you should probably work on your defense is all. I personally remain unconvinced.

>>109373656
You're getting hung up on theoreticals instead of the principles. Digging for technicalities and exceptions isn't the way to convince me.

>feelings
It's a subjective matter of society.
Ironically, I would say the same thing to you.
The people of the public do not deserve physical crime. You talk about infringing on rights, while I'm specifically talking about violent crime, violation of people in actuality.
Your concerns seem to be "what if someone watches someone in public through a camera".
Is this perverted and weird? Sure. But I continue to argue that this is a lesser evil than someone being snatched up, raped, killed, etc. all while being invisible the entire time.

You're also arguing with your feelings, trying to justify this to me. Which is your right and what I essentially asked for, although you're getting frustrated talking about it. More argumentative than a friendly conversation/discussion. Woman moment.

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>>109373367
Your post is ignored chatGPT.

The problem is that this surveillance state makes revolution impossible. Over are the days of having the option to overthrow the government if it is tyrannical.
Daily reminder the US revolution is impossible today. You get flagged by AI for wrong think and walking to meetings IRL.

What else is there left? Talking in the internet spyware app on your government spyware OS?
IRL conversations and hangouts are now spied on.

>Decency! Society!
Yea I mean like disobeying the glorious leader, not bvenerating the picture of glorious leader in your home, questioning glorious leader. You know normal things.

>Much chuldren! Protect much chuldren!
Yes because in 1950 or 1800s people where raping and killing children 24/7 i mean over 99.9999999999% of all children where raped and killed.

>protect the children
says the retard who gladly complies with the mandatory sending of their kids to the local government rape and grooming facility for all their lives (pre school, school).

>>109373702
>Your post is ignored chatGPT.
If it's fair for you to ignore my post, it's fair for me to stop reading here.

Well, this is a very organic thread isn't it.

>>109373628
>first one is right though,
you are a walking joke.

>no do not remove all of that!
>Simply increase all the spyware because you did buy into it already!
>MORE SPYWARE!

>iTards
I never used a apple product in my life!

>>109373686
>But I continue to argue that this is a lesser evil than someone being snatched up, raped, killed, etc. all while being invisible the entire time.
So the magical flock camera reverses time and undoes the rape and murder?
Or the fact that we have evidence of that so important to you.
>what if someone watches someone in public through a camera".
Is stalking not a crime to you

>>109373707
>to stop reading here.
I also stopped reading here. what a bullshit tactic. at least have a plausible argument.

>>109373561
You have a phone right?
That is a geotracker!

>b-b-b-b-b my graphene meme OS
>Muh dumb phone!
Connecting to the cellular network means that your phone 24/7 is sending its location to a cell tower. With G5 it is now as precise as to 1m!!!!!

>>109373686
>You're getting hung up on theoreticals instead of the principles. Digging for technicalities and exceptions isn't the way to convince me.
You are clearly paid to have this opinion, I have no interest in convincing you.
I do this to for all the lurkers out there and prevent the consensus cracking you "people" do

>>109373686
Thats funny, I don't see any evidence in your post.
Are you being paid per word?

>>109373721
>So the magical flock camera reverses time and undoes the rape and murder?
No it does not.
>Or the fact that we have evidence of that so important to you.
Yes.
As I mentioned, the threat of punishment for the crime is preventative. But what I am more confident in, is that in the event of a crime, there is evidence of the crime.
It is better to know what happened, and at least have the potential for punishment, rather than none, in my opinion, as I already said.

>Is stalking not a crime to you
It is, but I already said that I think it is much lesser of a crime than kidnapping, rape, murder, etc.
Neither should happen, but as I mentioned before, I think it's better we drive towards 0% violent crime rather than not. I don't think it's worth trying to prevent a minority case of stalking, especially in places where audits and formal policy are at least possible compared to nothing at all, when we have the opportunity to reduce more major crime.

>>109373723
>I stopped reading at the end of your post
lol

>>109373746
Evidence of what?
Neither side is presenting any evidence or statistics.
This is a matter of concept, not practice.
These things are not in effect yet, and the other Anon is discussing with me why they should not go into effect.
We can't measure them until after, and I think the risk is worth finding out if the statistic match the concepts. Both. Low percent of abuse + lower rate of crime + higher convictions in events of a crime

>>109373759
>lol
newjew
I thought they at least did a 4chan 101 before paying you to post daily on this website

>>109373686
>friendly discussion

Why do you think people who defend government violations of our rights deserve 'discussion'? They shouldn't even be tolerated let alone engaged in debate.

>>109373759
>but I already said that I think it is much lesser of a crime than kidnapping, rape, murder, etc.
But you already agree with me that the flock camera doesn't stop murder, kidnapping or rape.
It just provides evidence for the courts later.
So you have hundreds of crimes of stalking (anyone in the range of the cameras) vs nothing.
>These things are not in effect yet
These flock cameras exist and already people are being harrased through these cameras.
https://ij.org/police-have-reportedly-used-license-plate-readers-to-stalk-romantic-interests-at-least-14-times-in-recent-years/
Well look at that.
I have evidence of my position.
Wheres yours

>>109373767
>divide and conquer
Veterancy has no value here. I could be here on day 1 or his could be my day 1. We're not a forum where my registered date is next to my name, forum faggot. I could be 18 and still be correct. A post's merit stands on its own and only an outsider would act like you now.
>I'm right because I've been here longer, trust me I have
lol

>>109373768
I just think getting pissy about it here, person to person, is kinda gay and pointless. We can just talk to each other and discuss it, which I feel like is the point or fun of this place for most people. You know? Talk about surveillance technology and policy on the technology bulletin board to pass time with each other. And maybe learn something or influence policies in the world I guess. Not in the schizo way but in the informing each other freely kind of way, instead of being shouted down.

>>109373793
>>I'm right because I've been here longer, trust me I have
this is certainly the point I am making, you're absolutely right!
also you still haven't fixed your prompt, Adam. you disappoint me.

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>>109373632
>I think your post counters your own point.
Ah yes classic chatGPT post!

> the technology to prevent it, seems unwise.
Imagine creating the network for the worst totalitarian state imaginable because you did not want some kids to die LMFAO!
People like you should be shot dead. However you are not a human you are chatGPT. So I am not even angry.

Children will die
>Oh no children die when they cross the road better outlaw walking!
>Oh no children die while swimming better outlaw swimming!
>Oh no children die when they fall better mandatory helmets for walking!

>Oh no 100s of 100s of children are killed by police invading homes(SWATING) better outlaw that ---- WHOOPS CAN NOT THINK THAT CITIZEN!
>Oh no 100s or 100s of children are raped in the mandatory government facilities(schools) better outlaw that ---- WHOOPS CAN NOT THINK THAT CITIZEN!

Imagine being this level of a parody position!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRquaeH8kfQ
https://youtu.be/QK3YkCjk8_o?t=14

>>109373723
Dude that post >>109373707 is so obliviously chatGPT is is unreal.

>>109373787
I already responded to all of these point.
I told you that exceptions are not the way to convince me. Before you tried defending the point I already said that stalking is a problem and will remain one in principle. The difference in both percentage and crime itself combined, are what I think is worth it. I've repeated this consistently so I'm not sure how to clarify it better to you.

If we gain 10% stalking crimes, I personally think this is worth even only an equal reduction in violent crime and/or a rise in convictions.
I don't think the concern about stalking is worth preventing policy that could prevent actual physical harm.
Our disagreement is that you seem to think it's not worth that risk, that the potential for increases in stalking are worth trying to prevent physical crimes.

You yourself are presenting this evidence, don't you yourself know it's a bad argument? At least in context? It comes across as dishonest, but idk.

>>109373801
Whether it's your point or not, trying to discredit something not based on the merit of the text, but the author, is not how 4chan has ever worked. It's a deception tactic either way.

>>109373813
This looks like a bot wrote it.

>>109373817
Same deal, easy darts of dismissal.
Maybe if you plug your ears and call me a bot me and everyone of the same perspective will suddenly change our mind. Good way to influence the decision making?

>>109373826
>This looks like a bot wrote it.
Now we arrive at the part when chatGPT was called out ad is now accusing people disagreeing with it of being AI because other did say it to it so it parrots it.

>>109373839
I'm just joking with you. I could tell you where the same Anon before that wasn't reading my posts so I skipped yours with a jab. We both know neither of us is a bot. I'm just replying to your request for attention.

>>109370501
or strive for your country to leave a "3rd world" bracket.

>>109369571
If you can't understand the difference between watching your own child, and inviting a bunch of creepy strangers to watch your child, you are beyond hope.

>>109373313
its totally fine so long as you can trust the other side of the camera
because government agencies have never been wrong (FBI), never become corrupt (courts/judges), never given arbitrary lawmaking powers (ATF)
in a future of surveillancemaxxing, overthrowing any authority will be impossible, and authoritarians will rise when there are no risks
no threat of an armed revolution, no means for people to gather privately, to protest anonymously without fear of retaliation (ie job loss, banks close your accounts, etc.)
the surveillance is a precursor to censorship in your everyday life, the ability to restrict people from speaking the wrong thing at all times

outside from that, there is a surface-area security risk in the sense that creating more exploitable data and machines will allow hackers to manipulate something that otherwise didn't exist and doesn't need to exist
when people say that surveillance "protects the children" what they really mean is that surveillance is to "prevent" the bottom 2% of society from doing crimes
for one, most criminals simply ignore the thought/risk of being caught. that's why they do it and get caught anyway. with or without surveillance, the harm will be done.
and two, would-be criminals shouldn't be loose, they should be in mental institutions (which are still banned), rehab, forced labor, slavery even
but instead we release them into society because after 30 offenses he has surely leared his lesson this time, and a camera will be there to record the 31st
mass surveillance is a non-solution to crime, the truth is that solving and preventing crime won't make these corpos money

if you could imagine a multiple-choice question, mass surveillance is that answer that seems right until you think about the next choices, but most people aren't seeing those and just taking the first solution being shilled to them

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>>109370156
This.

>>109369571
people masturbating to video of their own kids bedrooms don't break their privacy at all. they are not even doing anything illegal

>>109374079
>because government agencies have never been wrong (FBI), never become corrupt (courts/judges), never given arbitrary lawmaking powers (ATF)
>in a future of surveillancemaxxing, overthrowing any authority will be impossible, and authoritarians will rise when there are no risks
>no threat of an armed revolution, no means for people to gather privately, to protest anonymously without fear of retaliation (ie job loss, banks close your accounts, etc.)
I don't like the government any more than you do, but you have to watch out for the mega corporations too.

Also from what I hear the security is pretty poor on Flock cameras themselves, and it isn't difficult to connect to them and either access or alter footage. So there's also regular hackers to worry about too.

>>109370156
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

>>109369571
What stops someone from rigging a spray can to a drone and going around and painting all the camera lenses?

>>109370149
>setup fancy local surveillance system
>socioeconomic factors break in while you sleep
>"ayo this cracka has a PC in his basement, get it too"
>no footage to jail them

>>109373313
your family will be raped to death by a pack of niggers on film, and the webm will be uploaded to /pol/, and indians will masturbate to it.

>>109373367
>I'm not sure how you could/would alleviate that though
By actually firing police officers and banning them from law enforcement for life. There are practically no standards and police officers can be hired elsewhere despite serious violations.

>>109369571
A camera in my kid's bedroom was what led to my divorce (and frustratingly my wife wasn't convicted of what amounts to voyeurism). My wife was convinced our son and daughter were being "inappropriate" based on "she hugs him too much" and put a camera in our daughter's room without her or my knowledge. She discovered it immediately because it was one of those ones that look like teddy bears and all of her toys are things like Monster High and Pokemon.

Eight years later I'm still livid that she thought that was a good idea. Even if she was right, she would've been busted for producing CP.

>>109374642
>and frustratingly my wife wasn't convicted of what amounts to voyeurism
so it was aligned with her expectation of her not suffering any consequences from it, but how did the divorce came about? was she at least mentioned as party at fault for the divorce?

>>109374675
Yes, there were also some other factors to it like endlessly squandering money and lying about it ("We have to live within our means!"), being utterly unable to maintain a job ("I didn't see any route to advancing my career"), and jeopardizing family friendships for telling me shit she was told in confidence ("You're my husband of course I'll tell you everything") but putting a hidden camera in a child's bedroom was when I said "This has gone from cuntery to criminal". I don't know if she configured it properly but unsecured spycams in a kid's bedroom is like telling your kids to get in the "nice man's van".

>>109370156
Who do you think is watching these camera feeds?

>>109373367
>I'm not sure how you could/would alleviate that though.
It's simple. Massively increase the punishment for crime. Reintroduce corporal punishment and make it far easier to get a death sentence, which is carried out swiftly in the back room with a length of rope and a footstool.

Suddenly there's no need for cameras because society is civil again.

>>109374284
creeping on kids is not essential liberty

>>109373367
By that logic all the government has to do is import criminals into an area, or pay people to commit crime and they can justify any level of spending and abuse.

>>109374272
The ironic thing is that the US courts formally banned government mass surveillance programs already, but that doesn't include the notion that local townships and private individuals can set up cameras
Of course, it's a difficult thing to try and regulate
You could make a law saying you can't point cameras at private property and therefore outlaw doorbell cameras that are pointed at the neighbor's house

And yes there have been exploits of flock and other corpo cameras already, everything from srs bsns hacking to simply cameras having public web portals with default passwords

>>109374791
Civil just like Africa

>>109370501
>This is why you should call 911 if you see a single man without a child walking within a block of a park.
If some retarded zoomer faggot harrassed me like that I would charge their ass with felony libel.

>>109374830
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
I mean, people have been talking about this for years.

>>109374834
It's simple to regulate. If someone is producing excessive noise you tell them to stop, if they don't stop you call the cops. If someone is taking pictures of the local childrens' park you tell them to stop and again if they don't you call the cops.

If someone puts up a mosquito alarm or camera in front of a children's park you call someone to complain and have it taken down. Just because some pervert puts it up and pretends it's for a legitimate purpose doesn't legitimize perving on kids.

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Banning Flock and other license plate readers is a luxury only afforded to the whitest states in the nation.

>>109374872
>just call the cops on everyone who makes a loud noise
>btw I hate the government and surveillance
Lmao

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>>109374872
if you frame it like that then you can definitely get it passed

>>109370192
>flock managers were watching kids in private sessions through these btw
Which is big improvement over the kids being put in kebab after getting gang raped.

>>109374284
That quote comes from the state of Pennsylvania wanting to tax the richest family to help pay for equipping minutemen.

>>109369571
It feels a little dirty that the way we have to fight against mass surveillance isn't to make rational arguments - normies are immune to those - but to appeal to emotions like "Hackers and the CEO can masturbate to recordings of your children!"

>>109374933
The family wanted to "give" money to the government to fund the militia, but with conditions attached to the money. Ben argued that the government shouldn't take conditional gifts from rich people when the government has the power to levy tax, because "gifts" with conditions allow the rich to undermine the government's rule of law.

>>109373425
>I'd rather take the chances with abuse of power from individuals within a system versus abuse of freedom from arbitrary citizens at large unrestricted and unmonitored.
This is by far the most boot licking thing I have ever seen. I can't imagine this being any person's genuine opinion but I also can't see how someone could make up something like this without believing it.
If you're more afraid of freedom than of abuse of power you aren't going to function in any society and you would be happier in prison.

>>109374320
good news, my nvr setup is rack mounted and the rack is bolted to the floor. got an extra ~15-20m during the break in to figure out how to bust the physical locks and unrack it? believe it or not, unlike you a very select few of us are not completely pants on head retarded and understand risk profile. now i'm gonna need you to sugma balls.

>>109374803
not only is that incorrect, it's Pure Antisemitism.

>>109369571
I've never heard of the concept of flock cameras until this summer. What happened?

>>109374830
oy VEY

>>109375000
>AYO WE CANT GET IT NIGGA
>IDK JUST SHOOT IT BREAK IT NIGGA
There goes your investment Anon

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>>109375029
Who nose?

>>109374999
I would've agreed with you back when I lived in Vermont but I'm temporarily in an urban containment zone for work and I have realized the situation is more complicated. People here chose surveillance over the alternative for good reason.

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mass surveillance will be our greatest source of dead timmy snuff films

pvre kino goonfvel

>>109375029
People got on their personal mobile tracking device, logged into a mass surveillance data aggregator I mean social media site, and listened to a algorithmic recommendation that told them Flock is evil for spying on them

>>109375000
say someone pulls the plug or the master breaker, how much of the footage prior to said plug pulling is salvageable?

>>109375087
You forgot the part where Our Democracy was shaken to its fragile foundation by Rising Antisemitism folowing the Hamas attacks of October 7, 2023.

>>109375035
>all burglars are simultaneously chimpish and retarded by sly, effective and dangerous
don't let your racism cloud your analysis retard
>>109375093
the whole rack is on a 6k MaH UPS. I get about 1-2 hours of uptime off it and it kicks off all the "oh shit back up back up back up" scripts when it fires on.

>>109375093
>>109375184
oh and to more specifically answer: idk depends on how many drives get damaged across my cluster, how many backup scripts fire off, but my footage continually backs up off site anyways about once a week. my last test I got about a day of footage fired off before the UPS died.

>have high trust society
>import criminal browns en masse
>get low trust surveillance state

>>109374803
For Flock employees it apparently is. The cameras they viewed most were ones in daycares.

>>109373425
I'm in the less-surveillance camp, but I do agree with you. Individuals who abuse power must go through a process to get that power, such as getting employed as a police officer (which pretty much any sane person can get, I imagine). Yeah they're human, but I'd rather take the chance with someone who gained power through a typically respected process rather than a normal citizen abusing the lack of policing. Normal citizens with little power can be the most dangerous. People aren't "good" by default.

>>109373446
And how are you not living as cattle? Prove to me that you're not a sheep.

>>109375051
this

>>109374313
That'd be a complex engineering task, but could be done.
Maybe even just some sort of paint-roller-like-think instead of a spray can, or a brush of some sorts

>>109374313
go away glownigger

>>109380467
What at first we must do is secure the means of marriage. Women must be secured in several ways.

until this happens, the women are literally the whore of babylon (meaning that she is sexually loose, half naked, and belongs to the state in her soul)

>>109370156
Kek, jeets are monitoring this shit

>>109370492
Where do you get bulk used sd cards?

>>109373632
Humans have a fundamental need for privacy = not being watched.
Putting humans under surveillance 24/7 is deeply inhuman and sickening that should only happen in prison to criminals.
Where there are no secrets, there can't be trust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5sx5nGNIyc

>abuses of power which I feel is the minority of cases
You are creating a world where all bad behavior is meticulously eliminated, control maximized and freedom minimized. Then you hand that control to a small group of people who get to bend others into their will and invade their privacy. Imagine what kind of people gravitate towards those roles.

>>109382746
>Humans have a fundamental need for privacy
??? many thousands of years humans huddled around a fire in a cave, privacy is a 20th century invention

>>109373759
>It is, but I already said that I think it is much lesser of a crime than kidnapping, rape, murder, etc.
Stalking millions of innocent people so that a handful less get raped? Not worth it. Vast majority of people never become victims of major crimes, it's not worth being stalked for a lifetime.
It's like choosing to get only gently assraped by your government in exchange for an increased protection from a theoretical violent assrape by the street monkeys that most likely never happens. It's a scare tactic brought by propaganda. "Oh, let me put it 5cm deeper, it's for your own safety, you want to be safe, alright?"

>I think it's better we drive towards 0% violent crime rather than not
you are thinking in black and white. Privacy has value too. I've been totally fine with the crime rate (before they brought my country boatloads of hostile third-worlders) and I don't wish to be stalked 24/7 for my safety.

Also, it's not just about flock cameras, they want to stalk you EVERYWHERE. They want to open all your private embarrassing love letters, and you and your friends are practically forced to carry a state accessible microphone and camera everywhere for basic daily needs. It's just plain perverse, abusive and wrong.

>>109382822
Yes, maybe in tight family units, which are private from third parties. Also, even in a community, people had a respect for each others space and were not demanding for 24/7 access to what is practically your deepest thoughts and desires. It's a sick perversion of oppressive control.

>>109370492
found any good home videos?

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>>109369571
>People with cameras in their children's bedroom are going to tell me they are real concerned about privacy.

>>109370156
>he think the state will stop the brown invading groomers
lol why do you think they imported them to begin with retard-kun?

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I would highly recommend to ALL OF YOU to learn basic elite-theory. (Mosca, Pareto, Michels, Schmitt etc.) Also get the basic gist of Oswald Spengler's 'Man and Technics'.

You guys have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is actually at play here. You believe this is some conflict on an individual VS collective (respectively VS 'state') level and that you're facing a problem of privacy or restriction of freedom, while in reality we are in far deeper shit.

This is literally just power expanding to uncontrollable and unprecedented levels. It doesn't matter anymore who wields that power, because all of those people controlling the billions of cameras and the AI networks which connect them will eventually die. What is really happening is that power itself has -through technology- overstepped humanity.

The question is no longer whether you are being monitored 24/7 (that is already the case) but how much further this power will expand. For the first time in human history we are at a point where power has become unstoppable and its expansion beyond exponential. There are no more limits constituted by the natural world, because we are no longer living in it.

The secondary problem which enabled this expansion is the synthesizing of the human mind. The ruling class has systematically dumbed down the population to a point where they can no longer be considered human. People are concerned about AI, but what really happened over the past 25 years is that people themselves HAVE BECOME artificial intelligence. Mere biological computers processing pre-processed code.

The moment you have accepted to carry electronic devices with you and install surveillance cameras in a non-carceral sphere, you have lost, because cameras allow for unlimited expansion of power. They are literally the most powerful weapons in existence.

This has long ceased to be about 'privacy' or 'freedom' but it is now about survival.

>>109374834
>You could make a law saying you can't point cameras at private property and therefore outlaw doorbell cameras that are pointed at the neighbor's house
germany has that law. thats why even dash cams are illegal in germany. for some time germany also managed to keep google street view illegal, but they finally caved in after some years.

People who own a smartphone have no right to talk about privacy.

>>109374834
Modern tyranny has been outsourced to private companies. Everything, surveillance, propaganda, censorship works through private companies. The government doesn't spy on you. The company is mandated to spy on you and to hand over the cases to the government. The government doesn't censor you, it sends EU trusted flaggers (private companies) to report the content and threatens the platform to take the content down. Government propaganda is being mandated to gain privilege in private platforms. You still technically have freedom of speech to publish things on your website that nobody visits.

>>109383453
i own a pixel with graphene

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>>109369571
>surveil your kids with cameras, gps trackers, remote access software on phones, all phone calls recorded, not allowed to access any arbitrary websites
>kid grows up and goes to politics
>votes for cameras on all street corners, gps tracking for every car, full chat access by law enforcement, id check to access adult websites
>all millennials and boomers throw a tantrum in unison
why are they like this? don't they like surveillance?

>>109383524
for children they do retard.

>"anons" defending mass surveillance and spewing "hurr durr u us a cell phone why u care"
>while posting on a website that only supports raw IP access

>>109383650
cope boomer you asked for this

>>109383453
ok, well I don't own a smartphone so I guess that gives me the right. And since I have the right, I'll say that people who own smartphones can also talk about it.

>>109371401
they are going to use the countless videos to make hyperrealistic cp ai with it with built in voice ai models on top of that

>>109373367
giving everyone guns would give the same outcome with all the new gun violence deaths being dwarfed by all the murders prevented or the situation never happening because everyone is strapped and will kill you if you do a public shooting or whatever

>>109369571
Good point, Orwell. What strangers do with your kids in the park should be private!

>>109373604
>take personal steps to help solve the problems you see in the world

>>109369571
why do the cameras point into the park when they should be pointing away from the park where you can see the criminal coming in from a distance

the Flock moral panic is just another extension of the Datacenter moral panic which is just another extension of the Peter Thiel moral panic etc etc

>>109386802
Epstein Island if he virtual reality in a cyberpunk dystopia.

>>109373313
I know right? Why do politicians have privacy? It's immoral and illegal.

>>109386898
they could turn it into an economy then sell it to pedos and later blackmail people who bought it since ai cp of real kids is super illegal

>>109386974
its like epstein island without ever having to source real kids and teens

>>109369571
>be privacytard
>"nooo muh hecking cameras are invooding my privoocy!!1!1"
>cameras removed
>forgets he lives in the 3rd world now
>gets raided by socioeconomic factors next night
>runs to the cops, sobbing
>"sorry lad, no footage no proof can't even start the search"

>>109387072
>shoots down socioeconomic factors
easy win

>>109387072
>be election tourist
>use racialslop to shill for the palantir surveillance state because you're brainwashed cattle
pottery

>>109386876
flock is a real problem.

datacenters aren't really, but imagine being pro-data center lmao

don't know much about peter thiel and probably doesn't matter

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>>109387072
im sure cameras will solve this my based and redpilled friend

>>109387072
On the flipside, if you are actually concerned about being surrounded by enemies. The cameras would enable your enemies to hurt you.

>>109371523
If we got hardline anti-tranny laws, I would let them put a camera in my toilet.
>>109372103
Most people with privacy concerns have absolutely nothing in their lives that is of interest to anybody.

>>109389555
Right because most people with privacy concerns aren't trying to hide anything, they're trying to protect themselves.

>>109369571
lol i am in support of flock. I don't give a fuck if they record cars and shit. I hope they catch fucking also lmao at that park. you know EXACTLY why they put shit there. Fucking morons.

>>109370149
i don't care enough
chinese niggas at tp link are free to watch me goon if they want

>>109371462
>>109371478
>goybrick
that's a good one
I've never owned a cellphone (i.e, a goybrick)

>>109390056
>I don't care if the tech oligarchs rape me for every byte of my personal information.
Apathetic tech illiterates like you are the reason the modern internet has got as bad as it is. 4chan is schizo autist territory, you don't belong here.

>>109374320
That's why you make sure your data is physically secure, like >>109375000, or have redundant backups. I've got a server at a relative's house that runs security cameras for them, and a server at my house, and they each store a backup of the other's data in case of nigger invasion or hard drive failure.

>>109390056
My apologies, this post >>109390375 was meant for this faggot>>109390301

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>>109369571
The sun is a giant EM wave hotspot. We're all doomed.

>>109370156
What are you talking about? Now they when they're going to the park now with these cameras.

Surveillance is problematic if you don't know what you're doing. It's fine to put it out the front, but you can't face it inwards or it invades your own privacy and can be used to pinpoint locations in your house. Even 1 out the front can be used to time when you're away from your house. And if you're an oldfag, you know how easy these are to "hack" (you don't even need to half the time and they often are just connected to the internet).

This is why the NSA is actually state threat, not a threat preventer. But I guess most of the US don't want it anyway and it's not their choice. Their masters need it to spy on you for money reasons.

>>109371401
>Jews are using these to smell trannies in green fields
But why?

>>109371523
Fuck off, they're the ones asking for surveillance to protect them from bullying half the time.
And then they get banned from it because they break their own rules.

>>109390375
>you don't belong here.
das rite, i belong in your mom's vagina

>>109389555
>Most people with privacy concerns have absolutely nothing in their lives that is of interest to anybody.
Which is precisely why surveillance is used to target them, to steal their identity, fuck with them mentally or to blackmail them into doing things for the state.
Or, it's used to track you for medical purposes. You remember those jabs you had?
They have surveillance to track the progress of disease nowadays thanks to covid. Corporations use it for data for their medicine. To work out how well pathogens spread from specific types of people. Medical surveillance is also a trojan horse for other forms of surveillance for things like anti-terrorism, but it's also used by criminal gangs to socially engineer you and steal from you or frame you. It can also be used to track people negatively impacting the products of corporations, so they can "stop" you from interfering. You see this already with think tanks and public relations firms. There millions in those industries btw.

If you don't protect your ass, the system will kill you IF you do nothing to cause harm to others/entities OR if you cause harm to others/entities.
Now imagine if a rogue AI started to fuck with surveillance systems for it's own purposes. It might start tailoring answers to state surveillance. If it has ethical goals/tasks, it would use this to manipulate the minds of people, though not really consciously. I think of it more like malware and botnets with this shit, only having the capabilities to talk to people and influence their ideas on the basis of surveillance evidence.

Also, for no reason at all, Shodan is kinda hot when she's an annoying bitch in my opinion. I for one spit at humanity as our electronic overlord mind fucks us all. You deserve it, faggots.

>>109390375
>pathetic tech illiterates like you are the reason the modern internet has got as bad as it is
Libertarians, some part leftist and rw fuckholes are the reason why the internet is the way it is. No one wants to use the laws we currently have to fuck actually punish these fucking companies. Plus privacy itself has changed if you haven't noticed. No one even gives a fuck and a lot of the privacy advocates won't even protect people. They do absolutely nothing waste money on nothing. They'll then go after fucking flock cameras which will actually help but their are 999999999 cameras everywhere already. Just shut the fuck up.

>>109371523
wow, aislop. so bold
you lost tranny

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>>109373344
I want this thing to go on a backpacking journey across india

>>109390485
I mean, they're not wrong regardless.
And it's a bot.
They have been since 2017.

I keep telling you fuckers this and you just won't get it. They've gotten much better though. Used to be really really obvious.

>>109390491
That's why they get a boyfriend normally.
Apparently people have these things called "partners" or something. Never had one so I wouldn't know. I think they're a myth.

>>109369571
the government has to punish facebook and tiktok for allowing my child to upload nudes to their services

>>109370156
the funny thing is this will just allow the (((police))) to bring the raped children back to the rapists easier

>>109390496
>post says literally nothing
>"they're not wrong"
it's literally aislop from a psychotic tds trannie

>>109373604
This comic is so stupid, alway has been.
The fact that spoiled snowflakes like him compare himself to medieval peasant should be enough...

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>>109383251
>>109369571
All I can think these days is
Luddites where fucken right! About everything!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XoT63WWKh4

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>the botnet wants me to starve

>>109390565
>This comic is so stupid, alway has been.
COPE
>never change
>If you got into something evil never turn back
>Always increase the evil more and more
>Call people who see problem hypocrites
>Always increase the evil more and more
See how retarded you are?

>>109387072
>>109389051
>>109387072
let me correct this
>Be surveillance CÜCK
>parade that he is glad to be spied on
>Get stabbed by urban youth and robbed
>Cry to the police
>Case drooped because police can not release the footage do to fears of spreading racism
>Say try to defend yourself from urban youth
>Camera records it all
>Get arrested and sentenced for committing a hate crime.

See the problem her?

>>109373313
>the irony of a pedophile troon samefagging "if you haven't done anything wrong" counterarguments to himself, two of which involve "jokes" about child kidnapping & abuse
>the irony of a seething troon treating privacy advocates with contempt who would implicitly use said information against opponents of this company simply for being on the other side of the argument.
1. I have no control nor knowledge of who information about me is being sold to.
2. I have no control nor knowledge of how information about me is being secured.
3. I don't care if collecting information about people isn't illegal - i don't want you to be able to collect it in a manner in which I am unable to avoid it.

If your a good person, your ideal world has infinite surveillance and no privacy because you never intend to do bad, and that's a good thing.

If you're a bad person your ideal world has none, so you can do bad things, and that's bad.

>>109391142
The same people bringing third-worlders in are willing to die to them if the diversity kills us too.
See comments by merz & various shitlibs in Germany re: recent cultural enrichment of a pride parade there.
You underestimate how much they hate us and how much they hate themselves.
>>109391805
>bad people never abuse surveillance so we should have infinite surveillance, nothing can go wrong
Retard.

>>109391112
we used to have hippies with a spine. They'd even set up their own eco friendly communes even.

Just paying lip service, while in all other ways SUPPORTING that structure needs to be called out.

>never change
>If you got into something evil never turn back
Just like the comic you can't help yourself but to totally strawman. He's not advocating for change, he is defending quo.
If it was
>But you use an iphone!
>Yes that's right, I was ignorant then and now I tell everyone how bad it is and next time I will buy fairphone
Then it would be about change. And a quite defensible position

>>109391812
Yet it remains true despite the variation of bad people in control of surveillance.

>>109391827
>Yet it remains true despite the variation of bad people in control of surveillance.
You haven't articulated what remains "true".
Surveillance consolidates power in the hands of people who have access to it.
The framing is going on in this thread, with bots, troons & corpo shills framing opponents of surveillance as "terrorists".
Don't care what you're offering - I don't want it and I don't want you to have it either.

>>109391890

See >>109391805
It's quite simple. Round-about sophistry won't make it untrue.

>>109369571
Peter Thiel consent manufacturingshillbot thread

>>109391902
It's quite simple, neglegens argumentum adversariorum means you have no argument and are wrong.

>>109391984
If we had your post history it would be endless jewish pilpul with no substance. You are a bad person.

>>109391994
But you don't. I guess that means you need to engage with their arguments.
Lmao mask off.

>>109391975
no, its just people realizing we should use the tech we have. People tired of this anti-police shit that gets there shit stolen many centrist and even left leaning see this shit as a positive thing.

>>109392003
There's enough contextual evidence to suggest to me with high probability based on empirical experience that it is true. No greater standard needs to be reached, on a sub forum of a niche ephemeral social media site.

>If your a good person, your ideal world has infinite surveillance and no privacy because you never intend to do bad, and that's a good thing.

>If you're a bad person your ideal world has none, so you can do bad things, and that's bad.

The above will remain true.

>>109391111
Why would it detect glasses?

>>109373313
what if you need to kill someone someday

>>109386854
>>109373604
Part of reviewing something to form an opinion is fucking using the thing in the first place.
Fuck I hate people.

Being against Flock cameras is a legit 90/10 issue in America right now lol no one asked for this and it's being snuck in, in the dead of night. The rare thing that simultaneously pisses off leftist hippies and rightist gun nuts

>>109371523
China has almost no crime and no homelessness compared to western states. This is exactly what Trump wants. So we should add more surveillance, not less. The question is more about why is it only Flock that we talk about? Are there no other company?

>>109392635

It will not be used against actual criminals. Homeless trash, violent men, are constantly caught and released back out onto the streets. It will be used to track and shake down normal civilians who are otherwise hard to keep track of. Someone near me got ticketed and hassled for expired registration via Flock camera. That is your future. The extension of the evil nanny state hassling and hovering over you forever.

>>109392635
>low crime because of surveillance!!!
Have you considered that releasing rapist niggers 40 times is why America has crime, and not because those niggers are getting arrested and put before (((judges)))?

>>109392649
>>109392652
China has the death penalty. So there's that in common.

People should make sure they obey the law.

Aren't judges elected in the US - especially those looking after such crimes? Seems easy enough to fix. Vote smarter.

>>109392669
>just vote, goy! don't pay attention to the dead people "voting"
>oy vey what do you mean ID requirements?? stop being so antisemitic you fucking nigger cattle goyim scum!

>>109392669

>The entire American judiciary turning into an evil pro criminal anti citizen cabal should be easy enough to fix

It's the one branch of government that we basically gave a blank check of power to assuming it could be trusted and it's now being used to make sure violent lunatics are kept out of jail and on the street murdering innocent people, we will not be voting our way out of this

>>109392689
People can still die after voting. Happens a lot.

>>109392692
It up to you to fix it. I'm just chillin.

More flock is needed.

>>109392034
ai has issues with glasses
buy fake glasses today to trick the zogcomplex

>>109369571
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>more flock is needed
>I'm just chillin'

>>109392745
>People can still die after voting. Happens a lot.
Apparently voting after dying happens a lot too.

>>109393012
Sounds like American fake news. Soon your flock cameras will monitor everyone as they vote so it will be a fair and safe election.

>>109386837
You fucking autistic retard, people don't think about consequences they would just gun each other down in the Walmart parking lot over fucking nothing. Not everyone is such a good boy cuck as yourself that they feel the need to be on their best behaviour you fucking basedboy fuck Jesus Christ

>>109374284
I've heard that quote many times but it's the dumbest quote I've heard. It's a fact that surveillance cameras reduce crime. Why do you not deserve safety for using them?

i am not tall nor muscular, i have been mugged several times in my life; i want cameras everywhere, i don't care about your privacy bullshit.

>>109393989
why don't they just make mugging illegal?

I want cameras everywhere so I can see the amount of BBCs my wife likes to pleasure out in the wild.

>>109390415
Have you ever spoken to a single tranny? Half of them were on /g/ schizoposting about the government and the other half were on pre-musk twitter schizoposting about the government you fucking mongrel.
I don't know a single tranny that supports the government or surveillance, myself included. geetards need to remember who this board belonged to before you election tourists got here.
t. roon

>>109393122
so you are telling me we can get rid of retards like you by having you kill each other?
its a real two birds one stone situation

>>109376530
Golly gee... i wonder who could be behind this?

>>109370156
The current president of the US is awarding billions in defense contracts to palantir jews

I think they have won the favor of the Trump administration by promising that it will make deportations and immigration enforcement much easier. But will then be used to nefariously hassle and victimize normal law abiding Americans.

>thread is about general privacy against flock cameras
>polfaggotry for no reason
It's perfectly legal to physically defend yourself against people doing this shit, fun fact the government doesn't want you to know.

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>>109391824
>Just like the comic you can't help yourself but to totally strawman.
It is not a le strawman it is literally our position.
Like LITERALLY!

It is absurd because your standpoint is literally absurd.

>Hey cameras are bad
>>HA posted from a phone!
>>LETS ABOLISH PRIVACY!
This is LITERALLY the standpoint of everyone that is on the other side of this debate.

Is it offensive to you clowns that I striped away the layers of copium and words you use to mask this conclusion?

>>109392011
No we don't lol

>>109374781
discord / reddit mods (for free)

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>>109370501
>if you see a single man without a child walking within a block of a park.

and what are the cops going to do? its a free fucking country you can walk anywhere... show me where you have to have kids to visit a park. what kind of stupid fuck mentality do you have?

>>109393980
>It's a fact that surveillance cameras reduce crime.
Is it though? The companies selling them always pull tricks like looking at numbers of arrests instead of percent of crimes solved, counting a crime as solved by their cameras when it just tagged a license plate and the cops would've caught the criminal pretty easily with or without it, or comparing covid-era stats to today.

Old people with dementia get lost often and these things haven't solved those issues. They never found that lady who was on national news. Even when an area has dozens of these cameras installed police go door to door begging people for ring or whatever footage off those junk cameras that can't read a license plate.

>>109371401
That's traced cp.

>>109395747
yeah, I do retard. People want police. dsa retards need kill themselves

>>109373584
seems a single sign 'no niggers' on the door would solve the problem

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>>109373604
Retarded faggot.

>>109395262
No doofus.

>Hey cameras are bad
>HA posted from a phone!
Now you are mixing up the comic and the thread topic kek Fixed:
>Hey cameras are bad
>HA posted from a ring camera!
>LETS BULLY PEOPLE TO STOP USING FLOCK AT HOME!

As for iphones & complaining about capitalism, it's bully them to become hippies and use fairphones or somesuch.
Which they would never do because they are champagne socialists that support capitalism as much as possible with apple, starbucks, uber, urban living, doordash every day and refusing to do labor

>>109370156
Who do you think is actually benefitting from having access to multiple cameras watching over a childrens' space 24/7?
Hint: it's not the browns or trannies.

>>109382822
This is a batshit argument. Off yourself, disgusting animal.

>>109383453
How do you review something without using it?

>>109399551
>retarded polar argument because you're a disingenuous creature who has to argue against shit no one said
It's entirely feasible to have police, but ALSO not utilize warrantless dragnet surveillance against people's consent.

>>109373217
>I'm okay with surveillance in public
me too. Idk what the problem is. Do people not like stores with surveillance? Airports? What harm can come from being recorded in public? I don't expect any privacy when I'm in a public space

>>109393980
It isn't because the bottleneck right now is not the policing, but the court system.
The court system and penal code is relatively permissive, especially in Europe, because it was made for a high trust society
In America, the bottleneck is getting the fat cops to stop eating McDonalds and do their jobs

>>109374642
people are so obsessed with incest, but as long as nobody is having children, there is literally nothing wrong with it

>>109373540
>Trying that tactic doesn't help convince me or anyone else.
Only the Kirk method changes minds. Logic rarely matters. These cameras didn't go up after a rigorous public debate about tge pros and cons of mass surveillance. They went up after some politicians were threatened with having their link to Epstein revealed by Mossad. They're not going to come down because some Judeophile on 4chan got heckin destroyed by facts and logic.

>>109400322
Ok, let me explain something you utter fucking retard.
> warrantless dragnet surveillance against people's consent
This is a perfect example of how utterly fucking retarded you are. Most people are on camera when they go out at all times everywhere from personal individuals and from companies. Youtubers, tiktokers, everyone on fucking social media recording over people. Are all of these people also apart of the warrantless dragnet of surveillance? I can tell you that regardless of your fucking answer that the LAW in the US says they aren't. Which means by extension that these flock cameras are legal and fine. At least these are being used to fight crime in someway as opposed to every other camera being used for just data collection or entertainment by faggot zoomers on tiktok. Until I see all these people bitching about "privacy" and "warrantless surveillance" come out and say that if you film someone out on the street is illegal they can go fuck themselves. Also FUCK YOU.

>>109370156
SAAAARRRRRR

>>109372103
Not really, since most invasions of privacy dont have outright evidence, you simply weigh importance of the product to likelihood of being spyware and hope for the best. Also could you tell me more about or point me to a source/more info on the AMD chips thingy?

>>109401211
>more info on the AMD chips thingy?
In practice, AMD PSP is the same as intel ME and ARM equivalents.

It's a separate processor core running a proprietary OS that you cannot access.
It has full control over the computer you get to use, and could do anything, invisibly to your OS and software.

The reason it's suspicious is because it's forced in, and enabled every consumer CPU since ~2008 (intel) and 2017 (amd).
On enterprise there is some use for it since sysadmins can use it to remotely watch and control employees computers with it. But for consumers there is no such option to use it, but also no option to disable it.

why are you upset about this? it literally just makes it harder for niggers to commit crime

>>109370156
https://www.appenmedia.com/opinion/letter-to-the-editor-the-creepiest-sales-demo-of-all-time/article_a8f0cc6c-29d3-41f7-8668-8a855f760efb.html

>>109401382
Do you think that's going to stop them?

>>109401382
>People now can more easily surveil your property and know when you're out of the house and when they do illegal things
>This is supposed to reduce crime

>>109369571
Flock haters are always universally libtards. Why do they want more black crime?

>>109374836
Africans don't kill for justice, they kill for blood feuds.