$3000 Linus Won.
in the trash it goes
>>109387469Intel is proprietary. AMD has OpenSIL.
>>109387469also still no PCB schematics open to publicthey are high quality toy with a clever marketing/pr trick
>>109387469>NOO ITS TOO FUNCTIONAL THAT IS NOT THE LINUX WAY
>>109387453Not giving indians any money, I'd rather buy a macbook, the M-series are actually good
I find it funny how linuxtards can only post their desktop because linux is good for fuck all else
>>109387453$3000 for plastic shitEven HP gayming lapptops are better at this point.
>yet another framework thread>yet another half dozen comments already from racist freetarded chinovo thinkshitters>framework continues to win>framework continues to sell>framework continues to deliverYou lost. It's over. Doubling down at this point (5 years in) is just pathetic. Who the fuck cares that the retard Linus invested? Yes, I hate him too. Who the fuck cares that the founder and CEO has heritage from the Indian subcontinent (despite being fully American and oh, way more successful than you or I will ever be)? And yes, I hate India too.It is undeniable that just 10 years ago /g/ would have been jerking off furiously to even the possibility of this laptop existing. Newfags are pathetic.
>>109387603My x13 has pgup and pgdown keys on the dpad. You lose.
>>109387632I didn't even know his last name before reading it just now. You must be a fan of him then.
>>109387545they also have 20yo cum covered stinkpads
>>109387603>"durrr we have swapple modules for repairability"lmfao use a thunderbolt dock
>>109387453Having had a framework, it's fucking shit, I literally can buy a whole laptop with how much a single mobo for a fw13 costs.
$3000 is such and abstract fucking price for a laptop this is so much money
>>109387791gen 7 p14 thinkpad is literally half the price and made of magnesium.
>>109387779This anon is right, the initial idea is cool but the value proposition for existing owners is shit. I can buy a Macbook neo for less than all the parts I would need to upgrade my existing framework to be on the level of a Pro.t. 12th gen intel owner
>>109387791base config with Ultra 5 325, 16GB RAM and 500GB Sandisk NVME costs under $2000 USD with shipping and tax.
>>109387821my PC is faster than this POS and cost $200 so what the fuck are you talking abouti bet shitbook M4 or whichever theyre at has 3x the battery and the same performance
>>109387805>and made of magnesium.The inner layer yes, but the outta layer is plastic mixed with some carbon.
>>109387453>no numpadok but what if I have a job?
>>109387453no monerono buyhttps://moneroshamelist.com/company/framework
>>109387791>>109387805A $3000 thinkpad t14 amd gen7 has:>ryzen pro 250>64gb ram>1tb opal drive>wwan
>>109387453just found out this thing works with gpu passthrough via thunderbolt 4 so you can link an external gpu. pretty nice
>>109387805>made of magnesium.will come in handy when I need to start a forest fire
>>109387897>just found outthe latest T14 thinkpads have 2 thunderbolt 4 ports desu
>>109387453*blocks your path*
>>109387953yeah but they have an anti-notch. I am not spending that kind of money for an anti-notch
>>109387975They also have an optional camera shutter.
>>109388008pretty sure the framework does as well but I am not here to defend a laptop I don't even own. I am just happy to see the tech available. I like the idea of having a laptop dock
>>109387975The camera options also include ir, so if you're just a little bit savvy and paranoid, you can use an ir light in order to give your webcam night vision.
>>109387453It’s a dumb laptop with replacement parts, not AI database with the ability to run 7 AI at once.
>>109387549Framework realized they live in a buzzword economy where knowledge of anything is extremely shallow, and if they just market the computer as being able to order spare parts or swap ports on a USB c hub, normies will gravitate to its identity as counter culture. This isn't a product for intelligent people.
>>109387469Literally not true. Libreboot supports many systems are that require proprietary blobs.
>>109387857>WTF why doesn't Framework fit a 16" wide keyboard layout in a chassis that's only 12" wide?! WTF WHY DON'T THEY JUST DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS?!You are retarded. Also, Framework offers a 16" workstation-size laptop with a numpad option/
>>109387875Yes but you're buying made in china slop.Goodest of goys, support the commies for a marginal increase in performance that you won't use 95% of the time.
thinkpad t480 will be the king when the society collapses
>>109388200What exactly makes it slop?
>>109388333https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQGhqF60zE
>>109387453>no numpadbest my ass
>>109388405>WTF why doesn't Framework fit a workstation-size 16" wide keyboard layout in an ultrabook chassis that's only 12" wide?! WTF WHY DON'T THEY JUST DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS?!
>>109388451There's space next to the touchpad, nigger.
Thinking of getting it despite the price increase due to the ram.Is there anything with better performance and the same battery life?
>>109387453Sorry boys it's fucking dogshit. Maybe by the time the RAMpocolypse is over there'll be a laptop worth buying.
>>109387549It's metal
>>109388817Oh shit dude the plastic gets hot?? Good thing my body temp isn't 90 degrees
>>109388535https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/1v896rf/im_crashing_out_with_the_they_are_actually_going/It seems their subreddit is melting down as everyone that ordered is getting half the ram from their preorder despite saying they'd never do thatEven Wendell who ordered 32GB they sent him 16GB lol
did they fix this problem?https://x.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/1906569466894577938
>>109387523are you fucking 90yrs old?
>>109387603>Newfags are pathetic.100% this. A lot of the people bitching are most likely fucking baby boomer/zoomer faggots who spent $3000 on a fucking thinkpad and are now stuck with it. Fucking faggots they are. I love the framework laptop.
>>109388237shit cant even run a modern browser.
>>109388459>type nigger>forearm bumps into numpad and types out obama's birthday
>>109389802If you want to make a boogieman, at least make one that realistically exists.$3000 is RTX 5090 gayming laptop price, not a business laptop
>>109389786isn't the boomer electronics tier manual/supplementary material is the ultimate goal of the right to repair movement? and it is crystal clear that they dont give you thati am not saying the laptop is shit or the features it offer like modular stuff are completely uselessi am just saying that the surface level irony is kind of funny, regardless of the stuff they sell/make
>>109387821Why are Framwork haters always right? $2K is still way too much for that POS when you can get the equivalent of the $3K Framwork for HALF the price.https://www.costco.com/p/-/msi-prestige-16-ai-copilot-laptop-16-oled-2880-x-1800-touchscreen-intel-core-ultra-x7-358h-32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-windows-11/4000445388
does the cooling still suck?
>>109389881I was being facetious because thinkpads have become such a fucking meme that I would imagine that all these zoomer shitheads who flooded /g/ along with the schizo baby boomer MUH PRIVACY crowd has driven up the prices of thinkpads so insanely that at this point its absolutely pointless to actually be into thinkpads. They probably paid some insane prices to own one.
>>109389914Why are you so fucking dense? I swear I don't understand how ant of you fuckers even function. Its the same exact fucking thing with the steam machine. People are not buying purely on budget you stupid fuck. Not only that but being realistic about the RAM shortage what you are saying is fucking moron. Go cry into your indian street shitting curry smelling sock.
>>109389996Fair enough.
>>109390012>indian street shitting curry smelling sockLMAO
>>109390023every single ceo is a fucking indian. I don't know what to tell you besides at least this street shitter is doing something interesting.
>>109390030Keep backpedaling, tinkerjeety. Basically every laptop brand CEO is non-indian, yet someone the one you simp for just happens to be Indian. Curious no? >Acer>Apple>Asus>Dell>HP>MSINot a single Indian CEO. Very curious indeed.
>>109390054well i must say its sad that it took a fucking indian to build framework maybe they stole it? where is anyone else? did the jews keep the white man down again?
>>109390067>did the jewsThe only jew here is the Framework CEO who charges $3K for a laptop that should be half the price. But do keep enjoy being fleeced by a literal jewjeet KEK.
>>109390092
>>109390105
>>109387469Libreboot is proprietary, it literally includes proprietary blobs. Only FSF tier Free Software without non-free proprietary software is GNU Boot. And no, framework doesn't support GNU Boot either.
Framework > ChinkpadSimple as.
>>109389784pogo connectors? I think I've seen a ribbon cable during a DIY unbox of the 13 pro
>>109388949The screen part is obviously plastic
> The CEO and founder of Framework Computer is Nirav Patelsaaar please do the needful and buy our best laptop you bloody benchod
>>109391150Better buy a communist Chinese (Lenovo) or Jewish (Dell) laptop
>>109387453did they fix the battery performance yet? Miserable battery life was one of the core issues of framework.
Gaymework is exactly the kind of shit that PC people used to talk shit about Macs. Over priced, underpowered./g/ is filled with zoomer trash who are too stupid to recognize the blatant superiority of Apple Silicon.>muh gamesbuild a desktop or get a nintendo or playstation, retard.>muh linuxused thinkpad, linux has no games or software that can take advantage of cutting edge hardware anyways
>>109391303>muh linux>used thinkpadHow do I know you're a Neet and incel?
>>109389786No, he's right! They should release schematics. The only reason not to is because they want them to buy them from THEM and not from anyone else.That is their end goal here, to make lots of money selling expensive hardware whilst depriving would be competitors from doing the same.
>>109391444It seems that they do offer them for free but you have to sign an agreement due to some intellectual property. It could be a variety of reasons.
>>109391117He specifically mentions FW16 that has gimmicky modular keyboard layout.I guess J. Blow statement is irrelevat in this case.
>>109391303Video games is awesome, mr. apple salesman.
>>109391303>playstation>games
>>109388070Interchangable parts and standards should drive down costs if anything.I mean, sure, the first time you do something like this its gonna cost 3000 dollars but its been 5 years. Where is the savings.
>>109390012>Its the same exact fucking thing with the steam machine. People are not buying purely on budget you stupid fuck.The Steam Machine fills the niche of being a console replacement for your living room + you get the it just works with Steam and the Steam controller. Framework is literally just another laptop but with non-soldered RAM (kinda nice) and those meme swapable adapters.
>>109391562its not like other laptops.
>>109391609But how? It does the same things in the same form factor as other laptops?
>>109387453>$3000
>>109389881A fully specd out brand new t14 is $3000
>>109389914That actually has half the RAM of the 3 grand framework 13
>>109388383That video says nothing at all tangible about thinkpads or how being chinese affects their quality. It's a video about how new thinkpads aren't old thinkpads, and about how apple is somehow innovative, but thinkpads aren't.
>>109387453IT'S DOGSHIThttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/07/framework-laptop-13-pro-review-much-better-battery-much-worse-price/
>>109387469swap the mb with their risc-v one then
>>109387869>because it consumes le energylmao
>>109388022so glowies can spy on you while you goon at night?
>>109389048billions of data centers must burn
>>109392283In my case, it helped me figure out why I kept waking up without any pants on. I was taking them off in the middle of the night. Assuming you send the footage to another device, like a nas. It could be used for anti-theft. If anyone tried to steal your laptop, you'd get a nice closeup, at least.
>>109390110>>109390023>>109390054
>>109392329lmao
>>109389897That's why Rossmann said they were better than Apple but still not great as they won't hand out schematics. Mobo repair as an industry is dead only chinese people that get schematics and parts directly leaked from the factory can do any of it.
>>109391233Supposedly they have. Pro rivals Macbook battery life according to the reviews.
>>109391958Complaints are just about price.
>priced like a MacBook Pro>performance of a MacBook Air>Dogshit OS options
>>109387526this but unironically
>>109391914No, it has half the RAM of the $3500 Shamework with the 358H, and it has the same amount of RAM as the Shamework that is roughly equivalent to it in specs (358H/32GB/1TB), but for half the price, and you don't need to wait months to get it.
>>109392845>battery of a thinkpad from 10 years ago
>>109393084>if we call ourselves apple we can charge apple prices
>>109387453>$3000bullshit, I just put together a base version and it's $1.6K
Pricing is going to suck for all PC hardware for the next few years, you're just going to have to deal with it. The RTX 6070 will have 12 GB of VRAM and cost $1000 and people will eat it up.
>>109387453What is even the point of "repairability", when a single part for framework costs more than used enterprise thinkpad?In Europe you can get a 3 year old thinkpad for something like 200-300EUR, because German companies like Deutsche Bank keep throwing them away every year
>>109393877>what is even the point of "buying food", when a single schnitzel costs more than dumpster diving?
When are we officially moving beyond just framework and standardizing an ATX standard for laptops?
>>109393084It's like you don't think we can't tell you ticked the ultra x7 option for $500 more up top.
>>109389914>>109393084I'd trust framework before msi, anyway.Anyway, here's a 14in sager
>>109389914>can't upgrade it at allretard
>>109387453FYI this is a jeet company with a jeet CEO. Do not redeem.
>>109387975You're weird. I like the camera bump.
>>109395446It's like you're fucking retarded
>>109396224A $3000 framework has the other processor, 1 tb storage, and 64 GB of ram. Where the msi is an msi, and you can't even custom order it at all.
>>109396224also, the sager with that processor comes with a gpu.
>>109396271I'd wager even literal jeets wouldn't be dumb enough to spend $3K on the base 325 processor, which is worse than the previous gen Lunar Lake lineup due to the shitty iGPU. But I guess it makes sense that Shamework shills are lower than jeets since you've been duped by a jeet CEO.
>>109396397https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php
It's surprising that we haven't seen a chink clone, their boutique hacker scene is huge
I hope Linus cheaps out on his jet and he falls out of the sky.
>>109394661>IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTER
>>109388535m5 macbook pro unfortunately. I'm divided whether I should get an m5 macbook air or a framework 13 pro. On one hand my m1 is showing its age more than I expected at 5 years, and the advantage over getting a mac is that I can play some video games on it when I travel.
>$800 for 32GB of RAM>$1600 for 64GB
>>109388535You can get a 16" MSI prestige with an x7 358H/32GB/1TB for $1400 at costco. I would get it but I want a 14" laptop.
>>109387469fpbp
>>109387469You people are absolutely unredeemable, pun intended.
It's touchscreen but it boings about
>>109387469baseddeath to Framework
>>109387453>$3000That's more than my RTX 5090 has cost me.
>>109387453>chiclet keyboard>no touchpad buttons
>>109387453...why would i buy this at $3000 when a $1000 macbook air has the same exact performance, battery and overheating issues?
