Is proton vpn enough to safely use airpoir/hotel WiFi and login to my bank account, in case anything happens?
No, the Swiss government will intercept your monies and use them to make more watches and cheese.
>>109390591you don't need a VPN because everything you type in is already protected by HTTPSneeding VPN on public wi-fi is just shilling and marketing by VPN companies
>>109390591I wish the lazy Swiss fucks would finally implement the "disconnect for x minutes option". How hard is a timer to code?
>>109390591Proton = bullshit
>>109390974Why?
>>109390591yes, but every solid site has https anyway.
>>109390985https://freedom.press/digisec/blog/proton-mail-is-not-for-anonymity/
I use proton and pay for it. My ISP cuts my internet off if I download movies/music (fuck you SPectrum) and 9 bucks a month is cheaper than any streaming platform.another plus is I live in a red state the Jews have restricted many porn sites in, so I can also use it for jacking off.I chose proton vpn over the myriad of others because I already used their email.
>>109390591mullvad?proton?IVPN?
>>109390591Just use mullvad, they were raided twice and each time they were asked to hand over customer data they had none to give because they actually store temp logs in ram (volatile)>>109391129Free VPNs profit by selling your data you retard
>>109390927Hi, as employed net admin: I actually see your "https secret with doh" traffic, at the corporate network at work. So, I assume airport will have similar level of network security.
I manage a hotel and many years ago we had a guy who set up a duplicate network with the same network name (no pw required) from his room to try to steal info. Cops got him. He was black too.
>>109390591Yes, but you don't need a VPN for that. >>109390995Privacy, security and anonymity are different things. Also, they never gave any information to the Feds from their VPN >>109391004>Jews have restricted many porn sites inThe Jews own the porn sites. Banning porn is good, actually. >>109391149>Free VPNs profit by selling your data you retardThe free Firefox VPN is just a trial for their paid Mozilla VPN, which uses Mullvads servers. >>109391361>He was black too.I'm surprised he was intelligent enough to do all that
>>109391480he was weird black, not ghetto but 5'5 110 pounds, bulbhead maybe a somalian. had no accent though, talked like a white guy
>>109390591In theory https is safe enough. Small time criminals are unlikely to forge a https cert. Breaking https without you noticing is something governments do. But who knows how well the theory works in practice.>>109391361Same for this case, shouldn't be possible happen anymore these days. In theory.
I remember a time when most websites, including Facebook, were still http. I was living in a building with public wifi and decided to see who's around me. Literally stalked some guys Facebook account (even logged in as him) and greeted him in the elevator by name. That really freaked him out at first. These were the times to shill VPN, not so long time ago, around 2011 I think. Crazy how you'd think in 2011 Facebook would use https, but no.
>>109391480>Yes, but you don't need a VPN for that.What do you propose for security?
>>109391004>>109391480>jews ban porn!>no, jews own the porn business!Which is it, you schizo retards? Banning porn is bad simply because it bans hentai too and forces even more westoid moralfaggotry on anime.
>>109391853You need to define security. Being on public wifi won't get your credentials stolen, because these days everything is https secure connection. Worst thing that could happen is they identify your device with your MAC address (VPN doesnt help here, but you can usually change your MAC in device settings or ask the system to rotate it) and then wifi admin can see websites you visit (just the domain names and IP addresses), but they won't know what you're looking at on those websites or what is it that you're posting there. VPN helps with the latter in that WiFi admins would no longer be able to see which websites you visit, but I don't know how valuable that really is to you, probably not very.
>>109390591I use free proton vpn to upload scanlations/unofficially translated mange. The free version is more than enough for me. Bonus is that I can get access to american and japanese servers as well, but it's kind of a hassle using their random server selection.
>>109390591yes, it's enough
Most banking apps here work only when using cellular data.
>>109391338That's because your corporate network is almost certainly setup with hardware to do SSL/TLS inspection and certificate replacement via device managed certificate stores. You are braindead if you think a random hotel is taking the time to do the same. At best your hotel is doing any filtering or inspection purely based off DNS or the SNI
>>109391480>>109391361nigger-obsessed faggots
>>109391493OBSESSED
>>109391883>make product>make you addicted>make guvment """""ban it""""" aka put it behind a paywall>now you have to pay extra for your addiction
>>109393406>>109393401ywnbaw
>>109393923kek nigger-obsessed faggot folding his girly arms and responding scornfully
>>109391004>and 9 bucks a month is cheaper than any streaming platform.I got two years of Proton for like 75 bucks around Black Friday last year and its been great so far. I chose it over Mullvad partially because pricing is a bit better but also for access to p2p servers. Otherwise it and Mullvad are probably two of the better options depending on your use case.
>>109391338As anon says >>109392802, this requires the browser to trust the man-in-the-middle certificate. But browsers have been hardening against those kinds of attacks, especially if it has visited the website recently and has cached the previous SSL certificate.If it's a corporate network, you probably have the tools to deploy your man-in-the-middle certificates as trusted to the devices. But non-organizational devices using modern web browsers aren't going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
>>109391704In the dorms people had file and print sharing enabled and I would install back orifice . I would just open notepad and type to them. God I was and am lonely.
>>109391338>>109392802How does this work?
>>109390591For vpn only I would pick something else. The android app often loose connexion and blocks all traffic for no reason. Proton is nice for the whole package the aliases system and password manager are great, the rest is nice.
>>109400384Your browser goes to retrieve the SSL certificate for the website from the internet.A device between you and the server intercepts your request for the SSL certificate.That device asks the website server for the SSL certificate, but holds onto it.Instead of the real certificate, that device passes your web browser a different SSL certificate, created by the device.This certificate is not issued by a "trusted" certificate authority by your web browser, so in most cases the browser rejects it or throws a warning to the user that the connection has been intercepted.But if your browser is configured (e.g. by the same IT department that installed the device, e.g. by a government agency that forces all web browsers to trust government-issued certificates) to consider the device a "trusted" certificate authority, then your browser will start an encrypted connection to the device instead of to the server for the website, and it communicates with the device as if it were talking to the server.Since the device is the "endpoint" of your encrypted connection, it has access to the decrypted content.The device then uses the intercepted SSL certificate, from the real server, to open an encrypted connection on your behalf, "replays" the communication it received from your device, getting the actual reply from the server.Because the device is the "endpoint" of the encrypted connection to the server, it has access to the decrypted content.The device "replays" the communication it received from the server over its encrypted connection to your browser, so your browser receives the response it "expected" from the server.The device can do whatever it wants with your communications to the server (e.g. logging them) or the communications from the server to you (e.g. editing the content being served to you).Let me emphasize again that web browser developers know about this security risk, and have provided mechanisms to make a best effort to protect against it.
Mullvad is the only VPN you need.
>>109390591yeah why not you retard
>>109400704>But if your browser is configured (e.g. by the same IT department that installed the device, e.g. by a government agency that forces all web browsers to trust government-issued certificates) to consider the device a "trusted" certificate authority, then your browser will start an encrypted connection to the device instead of to the server for the website, and it communicates with the device as if it were talking to the server.Ah, that is the central point. So HTTPS is still secure if you trust your OS install.
