>>109390911
>unoptimized compared to GNOME
My man knows nothing about GNOME

>>109390911
Mint is a pointless distro at this point in time, along with Debian itself and all other Debian-based offshoots. Just use Arch with limine + btrfs or Fedora if you’re still somehow too afraid of stuff breaking despite rollbacks.

I'll probably put it on my desktop then because it's so much better than every other distro. It took me hours to get all my AI / venv shit and launchers and programs working on KDE so that's the only reason I haven't jumped back to Mint. Cinnamon is so nice, I love using my Mint laptop. It's much comfier than KDE on my desktop, which is a jagged and sharp experience compared to the soft, relaxing feeling of Cinnamon.

>>109390934
Debian definitely sucks, it's gay hipster shit. Ubuntu is FINE... but Mint is great. Vast majority of desktop linux users use Ubuntu whether you like it or not, and that means when problems come up someone else has already figured it out
>muh the arch wiki
I don't want to fuck around and learn shit
>muh Fedora recommendation
I am on Fedora right now and it's one of the worst experiences in Linux I've ever had. Way worse than Ubuntu/Mint were even 10 years ago, and it doesn't "just work" I've had to fuck around and split hairs to get shit working that I never had to worry about in Mint

>>109390911
The reason I don't like to use derivatives is because of how it lags behind the original codebase.
Cinnamon, XFCE, Mate are at the whims of GNOME and will spend the rest of their lifecycle trying to catch up or patch their retarded decisions. Not innovate.
Arch + KDE user, not hating on Mint but it is what it is.

>>109391156
Look at GNOME's "innovation" is that where you want to be? MATE and Cinnamon are forks that gained popularity when it went gay. If KDE went gay would you keep using it?

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>>109391140
fedora moves too fast for me and it seems they dont even care if things break cataclysm dda has been broken for like a year and rpmfusion will go out of sync sometimes for days

>>109391186
that and incredibly slow speeds on updates. I guess they don't have mirrors or something? Some of my updates are like fucking dial up tier. I literally have a Mint computer on the other side of the room and Mint's update manager allows you to select the fastest mirror.
Oh yeah, and for Nvidia drivers I installed, they were still using the fucking open ones. Technically worked but I had to use ChatGPT to figure that one out. In Mint you just click a button or two and it works.
"discovery" is total shit compared to Mint's update manager.

>>109390911
Cinnamon gotta be one of the ugliest DEs out there
Why do people use this?
KDE and Xfce are the GOATS, you don't need anything else

>>109391504
t. gay zoomer

Does cinamamon still have that retarded default setting where it doesn't disable vertical sync when running games?

>>109391212
I'm tired of retards like you flocking to linux and not understanding that you need to adapt to a fundamentally different way of doing things. Fedora is easy, Mint is easy, Arch is easy, just use them properly, if you expect to just download apps from browser and click buttons for everything like on windows, you will eventually break shit and not understand how or why because you never adapted to the workflow

This was my first distro and used it for like three months before going back to Windows.
All the games I played display stuttered because of X11
Wayland had gay weird issues
Technically the most just werks distro by far, had the least amount of issues, but still.

Annoying

>>109391563
Yep. Has potential, but too big task for too few developers. Can't win if you aren't Gnome or KDE.

>>109391531
okay faggot I installed Linux in 1999

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I went to Bazzite from Mint last Sunday. Never going back.

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>>109390926
what makes you think knowing is a metric?

>>109390934
>Just use s()ystemD and gayland
Shit advice at least suggest something that takes them out of the IBM plantation, like artix.

Does it have HDR support?
Wayland is pointless without the features X11 doesn't have

>>109390926
Tired of delusional kde trannies like, gnome beats kde in every performance metric including gaming.

>>109391164
KDE is gay and furry, you delusional faggot.

>>109391164
KDE not only has a gay furry mascot, it’s the only DE that regularly holds dev conferences in India, something the KDE team finds to be brag-worthy

>>109390911
Because Clem is retarded and forked Mutter pre-wayland so he has to reimplement everything (VRR, HDR etc) himself and he is too incompetent to do that or hire someone to do that.
>>109390926
>>109391621
>GNOME is unoptimiz-ACKKKKK
https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-desktops-july-2026
Imagine getting millions from valve and the fucking gnome beats you

>>109392141
Clem being retarded was established when he used the Linux Mint blog to virtue signal his pro-Palestine stance back in 2009. Maybe if he didn’t tell potentially millions of people to not donate or contribute to his project if they didn’t also hate Israel, Mint would actually be a decent distro

>>109390911
i dont care about optimisation
i just want a normal start menu, a normal task bar and a normal --
wait
>xfce
bro that shit still fucking tears to shit get the fuck out of here

>>109391563
It's an incredible distro for your old laptop but oh well it's better to leave a windows 10 install in your desktop if you are a gaymer

>>109390934
There's no point to Mint because Debian is just as easy to use and configure as Mint these days and you can choose a real DE during installation instead of meme Cinnamon. There's no point to Ubuntu anymore either

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>>109392141
>Because Clem is retarded and forked Mutter pre-wayland
They've rebased Mutter several times already. It's everything else they have to reimplement. Before the latest version, they still relied on libgnomekbd, which was already made obsolete in GNOME 3.6

>>109392141
Call me crazy, but I think GNOME is cheating.
I actually saw an increase in frame rate by running in windowed mode, but only when it's already in the triple digits. My theory is that it only blits to the framebuffer once per V-blank, which at 60Hz shaves off enough work to be measurable.

>>109395933
>GNOME is cheating
dubs of truth, throw em in jail

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>>109390934
>Mint is a pointless distro at this point in time
Yes
>and all other Debian-based offshoots
Yes
>along with Debian itself
No

>>109394821
>>109396782
Who the fuck even uses Debian for anything other than servers, it's so shit otherwise

>>109397146
I use Debian

>>109397161
I'm sorry about your desktop linux experience with your tinkertrans "distro" that comes with nothing and nothing works

>>109390911
What version is it so I can never update?

>>109390934
mint has mostly sane defaults. the same cannot be said about 90% of distros

>>109391103
Mint is so nice, it's hard to imagine switching. The only thing that would get me to move away from it is if I can put together an equivalent desktop setup in NixOS. I already have a server, and I am starting to get the appeal, but haven't tried it on a desktop, and I assume it's got more warts there.
But anything else would feel like a waste. Fedora, Arch, and their derivatives would require learning yet more conventions, more new distro quirks, but getting less from the effort compared to NixOS.

>>109397207
skill issue

>>109398855
I have the skill of common sense, why install a distro that requires me to waste 4 hours installing shit that should have been there?
You only use Debian because they cucked out against their principles and included scary "wifi drivers" 3 or 4 years ago
>muh it's smart to install an OS that doesn't let me install Nvidia drivers without typing shit
you're a fucking retard hipster just like every other tranny Debian user
follow your leader (kys)

barebones distros are a waste of time. handpicking your DE is ricer retard shit. just use the default thing and get your fucking work done

Why do I need wayland to use waydroid? I thought it was only cosmetics.

>>109399013
more like gayland, gaydroid

>>109398779
Mint would be great if it had proper KDE support. KDE is basically the de facto Linux desktop at this point. The others still don't even have extremely basic shit like media thumbnail previews on folders.

>>109399122
Nemo shows media thumbnails. Mint supports MATE, Xfce and Cinnamon. I recall Mint offering KDE at one point.
Of course, Mint's crown jewel is Cinnamon. I love Cinnamon. It's much better than KDE outside of customization. If you want to customize go Mint Xfce.
But Cinnamon is pretty much the cleanest, nicest DE ootb.
I'm not a big ricer. I am typing on a KDE machine and everything is bone stock save the wallpaper. But Cinnamon is a very attractive, no-nonsense DE if that's what you're into.

>>109390911
>finally has wayland
still not stable

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>>109399122
Qt and KDE are rolling they don't provide support for anything but the latest version. So mint will never ship KDE unless you want an insecure buggy mess, more than the usual KDE bs.
>KDE is basically the de facto Linux desktop at this point.
kek, it's easy to spot redditors. XFCE and Mint have more installations that krashde
>The others still don't even have extremely basic shit like media thumbnail previews on folders.
Name one.
XFCE and Cinnamon do.
GNOME even uses the actual file manager for picking with global search on top of it.
COSMIC does too.
KrashDE fags live in their own little reddit world and think everyone else is just as incompetent as them and deal with a billion krashes per second just to have a feature nobody asked for or will use a month earlier

>>109399122
>>109399137
Funny you guys mention KDE. I flipped between Mint's KDE and Xfce versions in the 2010's, but once I finally tried Cinnamon (idk 2018?) I liked it better and haven't looked at other DEs since. I did hear that KDE good now. I just haven't had motivation to try it in almost a decade. Plus Mint dropped their version anyway.

I haven't thought too much about desktop NixOS, but it might be a reason for me to go back to KDE? It's just been a stray thought. I love Cinnamon, but because it is so closely developed alongside Mint, I can't imagine there's a team of people porting over all of that stuff to NixOS. Or even if there is I would feel a little nervous about its support.

>>109399137
>I am typing on a KDE machine and everything is bone stock save the wallpaper.
Yeah that's kind of me as well. I was a ricer in my teens because I had the spare time, now I just want something to install, maybe set up a few custom keyboard shortcuts, and have it stay out of my way. That's what kept me on Cinnamon.

>>109399180
>GNOME even uses the actual file manager for picking with global search on top of it
crazy how rare this is to see, I despise how much of a hassle it is to get GNOME's desktop portal working in other environments, their file picker is so much better it's not even funny.

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>>109399137
>Nemo shows media thumbnails.
Not on the folders to preview their contents. Only KDE does this iirc

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docked on my bed rig. Archsissies will never know the comfort.

>>109399180
>obsessive muh krashes babble
sanest gnomefag itt
fuck off and go argue with qtfags about how gtk is muh superior toolkit in the FEDiverse where you belong

>>109390911
Mint with Cinnamon is the only distro I've used for years with zero issues.
I want to use KDE, but it's perpetually broken.
Even when the devs say they fixed a gorillion bugs, whenever I give it another chance something breaks.
I'm sure they are in fact patching bugs but it's like trying to fill a sieve with water.

>>109399180
CachyOS is currently the most popular distro by a wide margin for actual desktop use, and the default DE is KDE

>>109398923
hoes mad

>>109399543
if you installed cover-thumbnailer you could have the same result on nemo but i guess that project is kinda dead now and the default cover is kinda ugly unless you customize it yourself.

>>109392141
footDE gets millions from EU, you can thank them for your tabletshit working at all

>>109399816
>cover-thumbnailer
abandoned project, buggy, no video file support, KDE mogs

>>109398923
Debian has a full desktop install option and has always had an unofficial installation image with non-free drivers.
Imagine being this ignorant and retarded.

>>109399878
imagine being this dumb of a zoomer who doesn't know shit about shit

>>109393805
this, the saar bloody benchgoy basterd betch dared to question chosenites, oy vey

>>109399785
anon stop being retarded, just because gamers post on cachy screenshots it doesn't make it the most popular distro.
Ubuntu reported over 40m desktop users ages ago. Mint is installed in million orgs. Gamer are a loud minority, like your skin color.

>>109397146
I use Debian on my desktop. Works totally fine. When did you last use it?

>>109399885
Nah, he's right. Sounds like you used Debian 15 years ago and basing your opinion that.

>>109399785
>CachyOS is currently the most popular distro by a wide margin for actual desktop use
Lmaooooo

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>>109399543
Can I show just my folder's "folder.jpg" instead of random files? How customizable is it? Folder previews are important for me because I use folder.jpg in all my files to organize and preview photos-art-movie-musicalbum cover contents. Last time I had to use something called cover-thumbnailer for it.

>>109391800
>gnome beats kde in every performance metric including gaming
Source: your pozzed asshole

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>>109390911
LMDE is max comfy, I still use it today