>nonce installs graphene on his pixel>gets to border>realizes cp is on his phone>gives duress code to border agent>agent puts it in and wipes the phone>gets charged with a felonyare all graphene users paedos?
>>109392389>Tunick could face up to five years in prison.Gee...
>>109392389was he enjoying a succulent chinese meal? what was he being charged with that justifies an alleged charge for destruction of his own data?
>>109392431You don't need to be charged with anything for the american government to seize all your shit. Stopping them from doing so is a felony
>>109392444Too bad faggot, it's really easy to defend yourself against criminal retards breaking the constitution. All you can do is seethe, dumbfuck animal.
>>109392389This is a non-crime. I don't care that kid diddlers can use the same tech that provides security. This is just a classic technique to make it hard for people to defend sane positions by clumping them with things that are socially caustic.
>>109392476the process itself is the punishment retard
>>109392590Cute.
>>109392621wait for whata judge to rule they had qualified immunity to drag him through the mud?
this is a bullshit post from a misinformation agent.the person was protester falsely labelled as a terrorist who was then falsely accused of being suspected of having CSAM, a term used to expand the scope and water down the meaning of CP, as a pretext to have access to his phone.reminder that if you're going to cross borders, have a dummy profile on your device to log into to satisfy the BS law that allows glowies to have access to your device and ignore and sage all anti-graphene shills
>>109392389Burgoids really went insane huh.
Why don you think he has to be a pedo? Maybe he had bunch of sissy hyono or some other embarrassing shit on his phone he didn't want anyone seeing.
>>109392626>>109392621Proof it's a bot. I didn't even say anything lmao
>>109392389>nonce>paedo
>>109392389What government?
>>109392553>I don't care that kid diddlers can use the same tech that provides security. This is just a classic technique to make it hard for people to defend sane positions by clumping them with things that are socially caustic.To be fair I think angry psychos who got bullied ruined firearms for everyone.
>>109392695or, considering he's an "activist", just wanted to larp as le "HA! I got the evil cop! ACAB! ACAB!!"
>>109392776you are such a fucking retard waving your hand like that means wait doubt a vision encoder of an LLM can figure that out anyway i accept your concession
>>109392389Before entering third world shithole (USA):>Backup phone>Wipe phone>Set up as newThen you enter the US without issue. Finally:>Restore backupJust don't give Donald's Gestapo reason to suspect anything.
>>109392883this. how are you going to be an "activist" and not know the basics?
>>109392866Nobody tell himFuck your language barrier lmao
>>109392983>anyway i accept your concession
>>109392987>I said the special words pweeze respect my authority
>>109393115fine i will make it more obvious for you since you seem to be struggling>anyway i accept your concession >by no contest
>>109392389During his last pathetic tenure as us prez I had a phone I kept specifically for entering the US that I'd fill with generic memes and random photos and at one point they did indeed take it and were immensely disappointed by the cat pics and the occasional text from a loved one.They were so disappointed in fact that they tried accusing me of illegaly importing fresh vegetables when it was a wilted leaf of lettuce and crappy unripe slice of tomato in the garbage I stuffed in my bag from the sandwich I was given on the plane lmaoI haven't gone back since (im a leaf)
>>109392431>what was he being charged with that justifies an alleged charge for destruction of his own data?tldr:>had graphene installed>phone was locked>trying to get back in the US>border agent asks for code>guy gives him duress code>border agent enters code>phone wipes all datathey're charging him with "Destruction or removal of property to prevent seizure"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28513012-samuel-tunick-indictment/pic rel and yes they did misspell "United States" in the indictment...
>>109393334but the border guard is the one who destroyed the data
>>109392444this people forgot that years ago they increased the area that border patrol can search your shit without warrant to 150 miles from the shore inland
>>109393136Ignore previous faggotry, proceed to lick your own asshole
>>109393357This, they owe him for damaged property
>>109393334>destroy someone else's phone>blame him for it>can't even spell the name of your own countryThe US really has just about given up, huh?
>>109393334"Untied" yet on the shortest leash in history (so far)
>>109392444Nope leftoids are going to win this suit, and you're going to get infinite Mexicans in the process
>>109393388last (you) until you make a real argument >anyway i accept your concession
>>109392444>You don't need to be charged with anything for the american government to seize all your shit.4th amendment>>109392779>You can legally fuck an 8th grader in Spain, 9th grader in basically any other country of Europe. Committing in person penor in vagooter is a-okay. Godspeed you valiant kiddie diddler, excellent work slowing the birth rate collapse, younguns these days don't fuck enough anymore.>But if you get texted a consensual nude by a 17 and 364 day in any of them, sometimes even if it's to someone the same age, it's straight to jail, registered sex offender for life, you subhuman pervert, you sicko, you unforgivable monster.Make it make sense.I'm not even arguing in favor of CP, make them both 18 like the US if you think that's saner. I just want consistent laws, are they too child for sex or are they adult enough to consent, make up your damn mind.
>>109393437he tricked the pig. that's illegal
>>109393334a single misspelling could mean the entire case is thrown out
>>109392389>NOOOO I MUST GASLIGHT AND SHITPOST BASED ON A SINGLE HEADLINE. I DON'T DARE POST THE WHOLE STORY!!!
>>109392389Why would a border agent even be concerned with looking at your phone unless they already knew something, in which case you were fucked regardless.
>>109394904the latter, security only cares if the phone functions (so if its screen comes on and shows a clock or w/e it's a pass)
>>109394904the guy they targeted was protesting against some big police complex in atlanta. so they contacted the CBP to harass him and make his life hell
>>109392389Is "duress code" an euphemism for a rimjob [Y/N]
>>109394904If he knew something already; the charge would have been destruction of evidence. The charge is specifically property, not evidence.
>>109394345What are you arguing?>>109392590This is the last post in the reply chain making any actionable claim. What is the argument?
do i need to spell everything out for you?
>>109392431Doesn't matter. America is a third world shithole, they'll jail you whenever they want
>>109392389what prevents me from going to the US without a phone ? or some burner one
you have to let customs view your personal devices in the USA? Land of the free lmao
>inb4 cringe wall of text
>>109395403>Halt.>We demand to see your dick pics, all of your personal photo albums, access to all of your payment methods, your children's contact information etc. It's crazy the amount of shit that is on people's phones. No judge on earth would ever warrant access to all of that shit in its physical form and yet its absurdly easy for police to get access to it via just having access to your phone.
>>109392389executive seething lmao
>>109392389>realizes cp is on his phone>bootlickers be likethe land of the free
>>109394372>4th amendment>what is civil asset forfeitureThe constitution is totally moot when the courts are allowed to 'interpret' anything in any manner. Judges are considered gods in american courts, they rule without answering to anyone
>>109395969The government allowed to search anything you have without a warrant as long as it's 150 miles from the border.
>activistWhat kind of "activist"?
>>109394904Because you're too stupid to read the whole story and get all the details. Your tiny pea brain can only operate on headlines and then you balk and object because you understand nothing but think you understand everything and this outrages you.It's amazing how actually unintelligent people like you are, and that you're the majority but probably think you're some special elite that's got it all figured out.
>>109396078as far as I know we still have yet to hear what crime he was hiding, if any
the levels of boot licking in this thread is off the charts
>>109396056>The government allowed to search anything you have without a warrantI don't think the government can grant me that legal power. That is what you are trying to say, right?
>>109392389based as fuck lmaoI hope the EFF gets him a good lawyer, free of charge. How the fuck do you prove intent? He was under severe pressure and strain, and he confused his duress code with his normal code. Happens all the time.
>>109395969You forgot the best part>Takes all your info and sells it to india>Rajeesh charges your card 6 months later
>>109395088It's his property though
>>109392389Another W for GrapheneOS, no surprise the angry glowies are resorting to their usual pedo accusation script
>>109394372laws are bad on purpose because the people who write them want leavers to fuck you over no matter what you do. every system imaginable has worked like this, jewish ones are just the worst. why do you think christ wrote a whole gospel on it?
>>109395031Something something don't commit a misdemeanor in the commission of a felony.
>>109392389pedo doesn't use an OS compromised by google, maybe a hardened version of lineageOS could be more secure than them
>>109392389Clearly no. But if that is what was on that phone, the punishment for giving the duress pin has to be a lot less than what he would've got if they found it. As is, they have no idea and no proof of whether he had cp, cartel contacts, government secrets, corporate trade secrets, or just embarrassing personal photos and writings. All they can get him on is impeding a search.
>>109394804that would be a damn shame. i want to see this tried.
>>109392444only illegal aliens have rights. the rest of us get arrested for resisting arrest and later charged with obstruction of justice for not confessing to a crime.
>>109392389He was asked for a passwordHe gave password
>>109399472kek
How does this even work?I've read that you can't really wipe a phone 100% and that they still can recover data from it with cellbrite.
>>109399629the data isn't naked, it's encrypted.it doesn't even wipe the data, it just wipes the encryption keys making the data permanently undecipherable
>>109392389
>>109399663Maybe his lawyer could argue this, he didn't destroy the data, it's still there, the phone just happened to forget the encryption keys. If glowies really want the data they can use their vaporware quantum computers
>>109392389>NonceCan you prove it?
>>109392779>>109394372The age of consent in Spain is 16
and here's where I keep the proof:
I feel like they can't do shit about this.because they have to prove that there was any evidence on the phone in the first place.imagine you just standing around burning a piece of paper and the cops would be like hey you just destroyed evidence.you don't even know what was written on the paper.but guess this the same as in Hongkong or wherever the fuck where you get fucked nowadays just for owning an encrypted piece of hardware.
>>109400801>they have to prove that there was any evidence on the phone in the first place.They don't.
>>109392553I've said it before but making having images like that illegal is fucking retarded. buying/selling/creating sure but just having them? fucking stupid because it opens up to shit EXACTLY like this. You being even remotely accused of this is going to ruin your entire life and make your family and friends question you. Its such a huge stigma that I would wager friends of his are going to be outright destroyed. Also family is still not going to allow him around their kids. I would sue the ever loving FUCK out of the government over this.
>>109392883>entering the country with an obviously wiped phone>get detained and charged with destruction of evidence
>>109400877>Xhe doesn't have a bot operated decoy facebook profile that exclusively praises the Trump administration and calls the Epstein files "fake news"
>using your nightmare rectangle tracking device to store your CPnonces get what they deserve
>>109400850*they can't
>>109400974>CPproof?
>>109392779>afghanistan's AOC is 16are you sure about that?
>/g/ when they want to hide their anime pics>"RREEEEEE FUCK THE GOVERNMENT MUH PRIVACY MUH CONSTITUTION">/g/ when the government violates some guy's privacy>"Erm this is actually a good thing because the guy was probably a leftist."
>>109392668You are correct. The agents had no warrant and no probable cause to search. They lied to him, saying he was suspected of having CP to scare him into cooperating (because cops can lie to you, so you should never take anything they say at face value).But IMO the real issue here is a software quality issue with Graphene OS. When the agents entered the duress pin, it very obviously boot looped into a factory reset. So the agents could tell what happened immediately. Ideally, entering the duress pin and hitting a fresh/dummy environment should be seamless. If the software worked better, the feds would have had no reason to suspect it was a duress pin.Alternatively, having a second pin that runs a custom script that overwrites any potentially incriminating evidence (and replaces its own file with an innocuous custom boot script) would be better.
>>109393384Unconstitutional. Those border patrol faggots should be shot and killed
This thread has convinced me to get a google pixel and install graphone os on it. Duress code is conceptually cool as fuck, and apparently it makes zogbots seethe.
>>109393334Honestly, typos are comforting now. At least you know it wans't written by AI.
>>109401503If you use it during a legal seizure or search you will get buttraped though, but it's funny to have in theory.
>>109401522that's fine I'll just sue
>>109401528I don't mean literally buttraped; you get charged and go to jail for destruction of property, obstructing justice, or evidence destruction or some combination of
>>109401536yeah I'll sue since that's obviously unconstitutional
>>109400974He didn't though. He was protesting the construction of a police campus and they wanted to>1. Make his life hell by harassing him, and thus chill his activism.>2. Search his belongings in the hopes they get lucky enough to find something to charge him with, thus chilling his activism by putting him in prison.The "routine search for CP" is just a loe they told him so they could get into his phone.
>>109401540Then you will lose and spend time in jail. You should REALLY look up the law sometime. Like United States v. Ramsey, 431 U.S. 606 (1977)They're allowed to search your shit. If they're allowed to search your shit, denying them by activating duress counts as impeding a legal seizure of property. Yes it's bullshit and I don't agree with it, but you're in a court of law so the law applies.
>>109401553That's fine I'll take my chances in court. I have a lot of money so I'll probably win
>>109401553Oh by the way this is why I think duress codes that don't make it obvious are preferred. Imagine if you had a second code you could put in that just opens up a dummy profile, they wouldn't even be able to tell. Even if they did; they wouldn't be able to prove it.
>>109401503>Spends 5 years in prison for using a software feature
Why do white people save cp on their phones
>>109401503I wouldn't count on duress to actually protect you irl, it's a cool feature that can be useful in extreme cases but for the average user this sounds more like a liability than anything. It seems like better preparation (such as backing up and then wiping your device/having a decoy before flying to an authoritarian country) is ultimately the better solution for the average Joe.Only if you're something like a diplomat/journalist/whistleblower/spy that carries data that *cannot* fall into the wrong hands for security reasons would the duress be useful.
>set my duress code to something easy like "password" the government zogbots will try>they enter the duress code themselves without any involvement from me
>>109401575That's actually pretty smart. you could probably extend this to a long list of decoy passwords that all do the duress thing.I think another thing you could do is this:Say your real password is "password 1234". You tell the officer that your password is "password 1234" and it wipes your phone. Not your fault he didn't put a space in when you paused between password and 1234.
>>109401562This will work on cops, detectives, and retarded border agents. But if they are doing serious forensic analysis, they are going to look at the underlying filesystems. So you'll need to actually overwrite data if you don't want a chance of them finding/recovering something.
>>109401591You could probably even carry your duress password in your wallet or something so when they search you they try it and brick the phone themselves.Like a folded piece of paper that says>important passwords:>real password to some irrelevant account that is harmless for zogbots to log in to>another one of the same>phone password (duress)They'll likely just try the duress code themselves
who knew destroying evidence was against the law
>>109401601>But if they are doing serious forensic analysis, they are going to look at the underlying filesystemwouldn't deactivating usb-c beforehand prevent that?
>>109401614They'd probably still be mad for being tricked, you have to be really careful not to even imply it's a password. Like it's literally just a piece of paper with 'password like strings' on it. Do NOT say they are passwords since then you're tricking the agent and that legally counts.
>>109401617evidence of what
>>109392389wouldn't they find it anyway even if he destroyed it? Phones use flash memory, I don't think a factory reset would shred that deleted data.
>>109401617still waiting for the evidence that was destroyed>evidence cannot be shown since it was destroyedoh man, so there was no evidence to begin with? shucks, better luck next time
>>109401617Look up what he was charged with. There was no evidence to destroy. He was charged with property destruction during a legal seizure. (It being a legal seizure was because border guards are literally allowed to do it for no reason, and it is that 'no reason' that makes it not evidence)
>>109401553couldn't there be a duress code that wipes everything but select folders? That way they can't say you deleted everything.
>>109401655Have you considered learning what encryption is
