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>doesn't have 270K plus in gamingeh, it'll do.
whats the cheapest and best prebuilt pc?
>>109406088irreconcilable parameters
>>109406088>cheapesta $150 n100 machine>bestone of the ridiculously specced workstations that lenovo sells
Which one, /g/?
>>109406105i meant both at the same time.the cheapest best prebuilt pc
>>109406117incompatible
>>109406112Lancool 217 or Haf II 500
>>109406117Microcenter's PowerSpec PCs.Maybe Newegg's ABS prebuilts, but this would be my last resort.https://www.newegg.com/ABS-X-Microsoft/EventSaleStore/ID-2800?cm_sp=brand-_-abs-logo
>>109406161>Haf II 500Good fans, good case frame, front panel design is not for me.
wait the 5090d is better at gaming than the 5090?
>>109406187u can find better prebuilts at walmart for like $1,000. u tried
>>109406088But a laptop. I’ve seen 5070ti’s with 2tb storage and 32gb ram on amazon for $1800
>>109406341i have an m3 macbook pro and i wanna snap it in two...
Top kek, the waitfag experience just keeps on giving.Everyone better bite the bullet and buy whatever you need right now.
>>109406112>glASSNeither.
guys is it possible to forego a smartphone entirely? you cant make a gmail without a phone number on pc anymore it seems. but this is bypassed if you use a phone.but all the other email services you have to pay for...i dont want a phone anymore i wanna get rid of it...
>>109406348>samshit down 21%>sk hynix down 25%>be sure to buy tho
>>109406411>Surely the emotion driven share price that's moving radically on a whim dictates the product price.They have sold their production for years forward, share price has fuckall effect on that.Also the prices could fall 70% and stay down, and the shares would still be multiples of what they were before.
>>109406435>They have sold their production for years forwardAnd you believe them?What incentive would they have to tell the truth in the situation?
>>109406458Yes I believe them, you don't?The memory demand isn't exactly some obscure conspiracy that's not happening.Everyone wants memory and data centers are being built in real life, regardless of how much some youtube e-celeb retard insists that it's all just happening on paper.Even Valve admitted that they were basically forced to say yes to whatever terms the memory sales rep laid down, because they can now just walk to the next company and sell their hardware there.The memory sellers don't have to negotiate shit the demand is so strong.
These graphics cards are not that special. It's just a dumb accelerator that still needs CPU & RAM to tell it what to do.
>>109406345Trade it in for the newer MacBook Pro. You MUST consoome
Replacing the 3600 with a 5600x next week for this thing, got some spare parts again but I’ll sell them this time.
>pre-bent extension cables>they're bent the wrong way for vertical mounthhhhhhhhhhhh
>>109406501For now, I fully expect AMD/Nvidia to put some lpe-cores on their GPUs in the near future
>>109406493>Yes I believe them, you don't?Why do you have any faith?There is ZERO incentive to say anything else besides that they are sold out.SK authorities aren't going to do shit if they somehow are lying.They can set any price. They have literally all the power here. Yet things aren't perfect. There has to be a reason.Do you honestly believe China is a threat? It's possible but it's not a near term thing.I really just have zero reason to believe anything out of any of the memory companies at the moment.What I do find funny about the memory situation is that nothing is out of stock. Memory kits didn't magically become scarce. The price just got higher. Nothing like actual shortages where you couldn't get anything period.
I would absolutely buy a 5090 pro art if it were in stock anywhere right now with cold hard cash straight out of the bank. Asus should make one just for me and put it up just to see how serious I am.
>>109406594>https://www.lazada.sg/products/pdp-i13765857073-s124740626750.htmlhere you go, it costs $5.4k usd and you'll need a mail forwarder though
>>109406696shit gonna arrive with no die and no vram
>>109406746about as much chance of that happening when buying direct from Newegg
Is acer a good laptop brand? Specifically their nitro series?
>>109406594It appears the 5090D is actually better (at games)
>>1094070605090D is just a cucked 5090
My trusty MX518 of 16 years just started double clicking.Need new mouse.Looking at,>Razer Basilisk V3 X HyperSpeed Wireless>Logitech G502 X Plus Wireless>Logitech G502 X Wired (budget option)>Teevolution Terra Pro 8K Wireless Any other recommendations? The Terra Pro seems most similar to the MX518 so probably leaning towards that.
>>109407102It performs better...
>>109407107would be neat if you had any benchmarks to back that up (you don't)
>>109407107same clockspeed, TDP, cuda count, ROPs, memory bandwidth but has a firmware lock to downclock if it detects AI workloadsthere's no reason why it should perform any better than the 5090 outside of testing variance
Why do people waste so much space on a huge ass case like that?
>>109407121
>>1094071495090Ds are China-only and aren't as numerous as 5090s, especially on an english benchmarking site. There's also the 5090D HOF which is the preferred model for extreme overclockers which will inflate the average score of the handful of 5090Ds that run this benchmark while 5090s are more common and get down to a more realistic average score
>>109407135It's wasted? Do you live in a yacht?
>>109407135building in a big case is easy, and shouldn't have as tight of thermal constraints.
>>109407168idiots like you are what remind us that we get the website for free.
>>109407195>>109407198A case the size of this chick for a motherboard the size of a large plate is pointless.
>>109407222No, it will have better thermals than your toaster. It will also fit extra HDDs for all of the horse porn she stars in.
>>109407234Who is this chick? Some sort of OF girl?
>>109407234>it will have better thermals than your toasterBullshit, one of the reasons the lancool 207 is near the top for cooling is due to it's smaller size letting air circulate better to the components.
>>109407254nah it's good because of its airflow path from directly below the GPU and huge intake fans at the front pushing air in while the top and back are fully open to hot air to passively exhaust itself out
>>109407135Full/mid ATX boomers will always be stuck in their old outdated ways
hmmm. i cant help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2 in the OP.
>>109407317I miss the days of the Internet where you could basically make any threat and it would never get you into real trouble.
>>109406435let me guess, you bankrupted yourself after buying SK Hynix shares
>>109407317hmmm. usecase?
>>109407317I told them but they refused to add it.
>>109407382And, if there's a use case, there's a scope mismatch.
>>109407393Even if there is a use case (there is not) then it's not in our scope, or target audience. I wish you well, and will be marching for the cure (lgbtqia week).
>>109407400The use case is ai and ai is the reason most people are building PCs right now, it should be in the AI category along with the 3090/4090/5090
Trying to find ways to reduce the amount of hot air being held up in my dual GPU rig. Wondering if something like picrel could help.
Is my PSU cooked?I have to turn of the PSU and then hold down my power button for it to turn my PC on since last week. When it's on it works fine but I can't even restart from the OS without it going into this zombie like mode where it is on but there's no output from anything
>>109407409Aren't mac pros with 128gb vram better for AI though
>>109407440Have you tried updating your bios
>>109407409No, that's outside of our scope. Our scope is pc building. Our users need information about how to build a pc. If you put a workstation card in the computer, it's not personal anymore.
>>109407424Yeah, blue arrows are always great for cooling.
>>109407443I don't know if you're trying to meme or not.
>>109407456shutdown/sleep bugs are bios related
>>109407456>I'm having trouble booting>have you tried troubleshooting the thing that boots your computer?>Is this a joke?What a website.
>>109407470It seems you have met a zoomer.Stay calm, and ask him how much he charges for basic services.
>>109406411koreans are facing the worst day of their lives and you're laughing??
>>109406033if that case actually sells for that much, i got a cringe case from my teenage years that looks like that i'd happy to fleece onto someone else.
>>109407487>losing a massive amount of money>decides it's the perfect time to break somethingis she stupid?
>>109407487These tards knew everything was going to shit the moment prices increased and with the ongoing war, why the fuck would they hold? Why not sell while they had the chance?
>>109407496It should have been my balls and not her desk
>>109407135>went itx for several gens because it wasnt that much more expensive for my parts>started doing matx instead for more flexibility>had to get atx for xeon v4 home server because i didnt want chinese motherboards>give xeon x4 to my dad, only have old ass boomer 20 year old atx cases for it
Does anyone else use the kon mari method of pc building?
>>109407524that's how I have a $10,000 pc
>>109407452forgot to post the actual thing, its essentially just a blower fan acting as additional exhaust.
>>109407487>koreans are facing the worst day of their lives and you're laughing??That was 1997 with the imf shit, this is nothing like that.
>>109407540does your ac cable bring you joy?
>>109407104You're spoiled for choice when it comes to mouse these days.Get the lightest option, Pulsar is a pretty reliable brand.
>>109407524I fold my shirts using her method.
>>109407608Is mouse weight a meme? I haven't looked at mice in close to 2 decades so never got involved in the weight thing. If anything I think a heavier mouse would feel more comfortable. I don't play FPS so I don't care about faster flick movement.
>>109407619Your future self will thank you for picking the lighter mouse. This isn't a meme.
>>109407619personal preference that some people set as the holy grail and try to push on everyone
>>109407619don't listen to these tranny wristlets, I love my heavy mouse + very big mousepad as I can reduce sensitivity and make very precise shots in FPS games since it is not a jittery over-sensitive mess that I used to hate with "super light only 1g weight omg" mice.
fuck, do I FOMO the fuck out and just get a RX 9070 XT or RTX 5070?I have around 800 EUR to spare and I am afraid if I keep waiting I won't even be able afford those mentioned GPUs after another 6 months.
>>109406411Stock prices do not correlate with sales and demand.
>>109407524My PC brings me great joy, so maybe?
>>109407619I have a heavy productivity mouse for general use and a light mouse for gaming. Works great.
I don't think I've ever seen a more dystopian piece of tech being sold
>>109407951Can't save for the 5070 Ti? Could be worth the extra dosh for future-proofing sake.
>>109408095Its is just hard to justify ~37% higher price of Ti compared to 9070 XT while real life performance gains are around 5%...
>>109408087>I don't think I've ever seen a more dystopian piece of tech being soldYou get more per $ than in 2021.
>>109407951But a 7900xtx
>>109408153>even more expensive USED than 9070 XTlmao no fucking way
>>109406559Its still in stock because prices got higher. Thats how it works. Supply and demand.
>>109408198RETARD
>>109407104Endgame gear OP1 8k v2 and then running it at 1kHz. It has among the best hardware for latency and longevity. Look up mouse tests.
>>109408087I'm not American but that price seems offAustralians get fucked on price in literally everything yet it's trivial to get something much better at the same cost as that abominationWhat's happening over there?
>>109406033I thought that was a casket.
>>109407424Just have a fan blow in air from the front panel then it needs to exit from the backside.
>>109408209I was literally explaining to you how it works and you call me a retard. I guess you dont want to understand how things actually work. Fuck you
>>109407951Prices are about to go up once again, I'd buy now if I were you.
>>109408250FOMO is one hell of a drug
>>109408295Fear Of Memory Orders?
>>109408209Why yes, the diy market is retarding because of macro socioeconomic factors
>>109408295Ok then, enjoy paying $1500 for a 5070ti in a few weeks instead of $1k now.
>>109408440AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>109408464Its not that bad as the other anon said. 30% price hike an 1k$ is 1.3k$. If the 30% projection is to be trusted.
I think peak fomo will be around black friday before christmas. That's the pc building season no?
>>109408497black friday will still be 50% more expensive than now LMAO
>>109408497Black Fridays have been nothing for years now. Prices will be up by 30% and then lowered by 10%.
>>109408509>>109408562That's what I thought. I have 32gb ddr5 ramcoin to sell, you recon I should sell during black friday or hold even longer.
>>109408562They're facing demand destruction, and they'll be left (forever) with unsellable products.
>>109408583You underestimate the goysoomer
>>109408593Everything went up in price, and the automobile still sucks up the impress the neighbor cash.
>>109408583>They're facing demand destructionThat would happen over years. There's loads of people who still want to buy and are waitfagging in hope of better prices. The more time passes, the more people will cave in and cement the increased prices as 'the new normal'. At which point, prices will continue to steadily increase, or possibly the companies will pull out of consumer tech altogether.
>>109408603normies are getting sick of gombudder. It's gettinv very bell bottom -y.
>>109408603They are making a lot of money now. I hope that they will invest it wiswly in reasearch and future production nodes. I hope that this will bring good products for waitfags in the future. The future is always a bit uncertain tho. You need to have an iron grip on waitfagging and I understand that its not for everybody
>>109408622I'm iron gripping with my 3090 and 10900k currentlyNothing has excited me so far since they're all worse in one way or another than what I have
really pisses me off that 2 thumb buttons has become the standard on mice especially when logitech made the perfect 3 button layout 15 fucking years ago with the g500
prices are coming down right now. just wait.
>>109407244It's the girl from that Obsession movie, before the movie she was some random youtuber/streamer
>>109408087>9050wtf is that>4GBLMAO AMD STILL DOING THIS SHIT
>>109408846nvidia did it first.
>>109408860hence the still LOL
>>109408198>>109408237Except we have been through this many times with COVID and crypto.Things actually became out of stock, pages and pages of literally unpurchasable listings save for 3rd party scalpers and strict purchase limits. Prices where up to then.RAM right now is in it's "tightest supply crunch" ever yet I can buy as much as I want? The DIY market is the lowest of the low in priority for the DRAM fabs yet shelves are fully stocked regardless.Seems really odd given what has gone on historically.
I put in a backorder for the 341CQR x36 on newegg. What are the odds I actually get it next week? it's hard to believe this monitor instantly sells out when it comes in stock - I ultrawide was niche?
>>10940895121:9 ultrawide is fairly mainstream these days among midrange and highend builds32:9 is what I'd consider nichealso the 341CQR X36 is the cheapest 360hz 5th gen qdoled ultrawide so its always in high demand. The ayylmaoware is even cheaper but it's only 280hz and high hz sells
>>109408934It's just basically pre-empting the out of stocks. Fabs are turning away from consumer products towards data center products, so there will be less stock in the future.The COVID thing was very fast. We went from "something's happening in China" to "Europe's in lockdown" in like 60 days. And then everyone wanted to buy gaming PCs and had to have a machine for remote work/schooling. If we were given a year's worth of heads up for that, then you could have imagined the prices to have gone up before things went out of stock.
>>109407619A heavy mouse will give you a low skill ceiling in fps games. The only way to compensate is to use a glass pad that eats skates.
>>109407317>blackwell 6000only use case is commercial applications that eat vram. >9950x3d2Meme cpu with no real practical use case. The hpc functions it boosts should be run on a system with ecc ram.
>>109408964msi also has a 280hz model that is in stock but apparently everyone wants the 360hz. I don't get how Asus thinks they can charge so much more for their monitors across the board. It's like they think they are apple.
>>109409122>I don't get how Asus thinks they can charge so much morebrand recognition
>>109409122i got the assus because I wanted a black bezel and didn't want to have to rely on DSC
>>109409133The only time I hear about their brand is when they're screwing over customers by not honoring warranties or overcharging for lower quality parts compared to their competitors.
>>109408934Fo you retards actually not understand that higher prices mean less people are buying and thus the stock is depleting more slowly on something non-essential? Because the shortage is in manufacturing slots and not yet in physical inventory like during covids logistics disruptions.This is economics 101. Literally just price elasticity.
>>109409122>everyone wants the 360hzme, playing at 100fps with VRR on and happymeanwhile morons buying 360hz monitors and thinking they're going to turn pro in counter strike 2 lmao
>>109409169you would want a 540hz oled for cs2 or a 600hz zowie narrow 3-lane map design from 1999 doesn't benefit from 21:9 aspect ratio
>>109409192you need a real job "cs 2 pro" is not a fucking career
>>109409158>Because the shortage is in manufacturing slots and not yet in physical inventory like during covids logistics disruptions.COVID was a double whammy, since it affected both supply (factories are closed because of lockdowns) and demand (people are at home and need/want computers). Consumer RAM demand hasn't really exploded now, but the supply-side is being affected by manufacturing moving towards enterprise.
How long will a 9070 XT, 9800x3d, 32gb ddr5 build last me? I need to save money after this hubris.
>>109409369Until Windows 11 2028 LTSC
Hi anons, should I change anything here? Or just leave it as be?
>>109409394Hit undervolt gpu and your done
>>109409387>Windows 11 2028 LTSCi use linux
>>109409394click manual tuning, raise the power limit to max and turn off zero rpm fan mode because fans turning off and on constantly wears them out faster, after that you can try undervolting. if your PC ever crashes or turns off unexpectedly your overclock settings will reset even if it wasn't their fault because amds software is retarded
>>109409144and yet they still seem to have a rather big market share. In regards to OLED plenty of recommendations here pointed to asus
>>109409418until the AM5 chip explodes then
>>109409477But are those educated recommendations, or just people shilling them because they themselves fell for marketing and don't know better?
>>109409530Asus has a lot of people fanboying for them so probably the latter
I want to get out of the 8GB cuck cage before it becomes a problem but a 9060 isn't a big enough performance jump for the cost and a 9070 is an insane amount of money for how much I actually need it
>>109409369Depends on what you do with your pc, I recently built a new pc since the one I had from 2014 didn't cut it anymore for what I need it for. If you aren't interested in the latest comically bad AAA deislop a pc is useful for many years now. It's not like 1999 where it was outdated after a year.
>>109409369only 2 weeks sorry to say. you need to buy a 9950x3d2 and a blackwell 6000 like yesterday.
>found p5800x3d 1.6tb on ebay for suspiciously low priceHuh, it actually arrived
>>109409530ASUS is usually the first to adopt new panel features like glossy WOLED with better screen coating (boosts ambient black levels while reducing glare).They're the only brand with DolbyVision that sells both WOLED & QD-OLED monitors.ROG OLED monitors carry a premium, but they're not interested in attracting frugal buyers from /pcbg/ or /r/buildapcsales.
>Ryzen 9800X3D - $424>Ryzen 7800X3D - $340Making my own steam machine competitor essentially with the intention of running Bazzite Linux. I'd be pairing this CPU with an AMD 9070XT. I know the higher the resolution, the less the CPU really matters but will I regret getting the 7800X3D vs the 9800X3D?
I could've bought a 7800 XT for $360 last month but I passed it up
>>1094098817800X3D is fine if you're not an obsessive hardware tuner, 9800X3D has more accessible CPU OCing design.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x3d/
>>109409906I intended to just run it bone stock. If anything I was going to possibly undervolt it for noise/thermal/longevity reasons. I'd be prioritizing stability and reliability above all honestly.
https://videocardz.com/newz/best-buy-raises-high-end-geforce-rtx-50-pricing-first-rtx-5080-now-exceeds-rtx-5090-msrpKEK
>>109409920It was retarded to pay the ROG Astral premium for a 5080 to begin with.
It amazes me that people still think there are new cpus and gpus on the horizon. Nigga Valve can't even secure the parts for their hardware, price aside what makes you think there's going to be new cpus and gpus flooding the shelves anytime soon.
>>109409945Won't matter for gaymers anyway.Very few, if any, game devs can afford to raise system reqs above Zen 3 & RDNA2 tier PCs.
What’s a fair price for Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32gb 3200 CL16 used but hardly for about 2 years no OC or anything
