I have no idea how people can just keep using Discord.It's enshittifying fast, pushing me Nitro popup ads almost every day now.Discord is not what it used to be 10 years ago. It's no longer the cool alternative to mainstream platforms. It is the mainstream platform.I'm coding my own Discord-like webpage in vanilla PHP and people laugh. I laugh at 'tards who look at ads and send their passport to some company so they can talk to their imaginary friends. Talking to your frens should be a human right, not a commercial service.
>>109408336but what do?imaging telling a friend 'nah bro, I don't use discord because it's slop, come use my own php-based discord'
>>109408343People are subjecting themselves to literal rape because>my friends are here too, I cant leave them, and they want to be rapedWeird times
>>109408336because all my irl friends use it and their friends use it and all the people i’ve met in games use it
>>109408356True. They should be like me: I migrated to a new platform and I just stare at the screen with zero chats.
>>109408336You had a point until you brought up vibe coding some bullshit instead of just self hosting Matrix like any sane privacy schizo>>109408356Believe it or not people have friends and want to remain in contact with them and would rather not be weird about something as trivial as a chat app, if discord gets bad enough everyone will eventually leave, it's clearly not at this point yet but it's close
>>109408400sane people don't use matrix
i hate this phenomenon in software where programmers see modern slop, and think the only solution is using old tech that is circularly "good" because it's old, and blindly rejecting all other alternatives.
You fags are just afraid to face the fact that your "friends" don't want to talk to you enough that they'd use another platform to do so. Discord is more important to them than you are.
>>109408336>shits on discord>still copies its layoutkeklmao, eveni'm making my own self-hosted chat service, too. go, for the backend; rust, for the frontend.chat rooms work, i still need to implement the contacts/friend functionality.no ai agents, besides when i need to look up documentation or syntax when i'm too lazy to have 100 tabs open.
can't even group up for online game without some faggot giving you link to his shitcord
>>109408336who are you chatting with on your fake discord anon =)
>>109408336>I'm coding my own Discord-like webpage in vanilla PHP and people laugh.What's your plan to scale for 200m MAU?
>>109408336>discord clone #251232346
just use IRC
>>109408400>vibe coding some bullshitIt may be bullshit but I've AUTISTICALLY coded it by hand in notepad.exe in black and white.
>>109408503It's to give people less resistance to migrate.Most people get hooked on a certain look and feel of a serviceLike you guys absolutely DEMAND sharp div corners because 4chan doesnt use border-radius
>>109408400>would rather not be weird about something as trivial as a chat appTotal AI surveillance and profiling of my chats is not trivial.The problem is that the situation is so bad that normies can't even understand itThey cant physically see the surveillance so they think it doesnt existOut of sight, out of mind.
>>109408960if it were up to me, we'd've just stuck with peak win2k guis.that's why i'm making my app themeable from the start, so i can indulge my autism and make it tolerable for your kind.
>>109408336>Discord-like webpagebrowser is a bigger dependency (for a user) than a dedicated application, you just doing an expensive (own hosting? registration?) bicycletake telegram or, i dont know, viber something.
>>109408400Matrix is unpopular, more centralized than they let on, and low quality. At least self host XMPP instead.
>>109408912Ergo has persistent history these days, kiwi irc (the web UI) has push notifications that even work with iOS.Just use that.
I'm liking fluxer
>>109409213This is so dumb. If you go out and pick a field of crops with a combine harvester, you picked the fucking crops. Not John Deere. You.
>>109408400>You had a point until you brought up vibe codinghe didnt mention vibe coding at all, stupid retard
>>109409247what an retardit's not about picking crops, it's about the harvester.someone else made the harvester. you're just toying with the blueprints. that's vibe coding.
>>109409243it's probably the only sane alternative since element devs can't implement basic features despite using a bloated framework
>>109408343>nah bro, I don't use discord because it's slop, come use my own php-based discord
>>109408336I think the Andrew Kelley guy beat you to it.
>>109409435r kelly*
>>109408336Does anyone use simplex?
>>109408336Why not fork some discord clone?
shitcord always sucked donkey ballsold school chatango was the shit but for some reason they neutered the DMs and full of weirdo "breeding ok" fucks anywaysteam chat was also good until it aped shitcord
>>109408474>Discord is more important to them than you are.being a discord user is a social brand, a personality aspect. "what's your discord username?" is a shibboleth these losers use to seem higher than rando normies.
>>109409598Because discord is very fucking expensive to run. The only value is in stripping what people are doing using game activity view and privacy-raping shit
>>109410101tell me you're a boomer without telling me you're a boomer
I hate normies so fucking much you have no idea.If they didn't exist the internet as a whole would be 100000x better.
>>109408503>still copies its layout>despite the fact that discord stole off slack firstyou go first, retard
>>109408474holy fvcking trvke
>>109410398slack is corporate slopdoesn't make it any better, idiot
>>109410180That's it? That's you analyze? Where is he wrong?You're going to have a rough time in a professional environment, little friend.
>>109408336>Discord is not what it used to be 10 years ago. It's no longer the cool alternative to mainstream platforms. It is the mainstream platform.It never was that what is this psyop? Discord was very heavily shilled in the beginning, none of it was natural.Nobody used Discord until they were forced into it, at the start it was all just insufferable faggots and the corporate shills. If anything people have forgotten how shady discord was in the early years, now its just typical monopoly big corpo trash thats expected for their size.>>109408474this>>109408968Until they get false banned after submitting ID and sperg out about it totally surprised.>>109410101Search "no text to speech" on YT, thats the kind of slaves this corporation manufactures>>109410276Internet? Real life would be livable without them.
>>109413910So pick an alternative (fluxer) and shill that to make it popular
>>109414024all discord clones are dogshit especially the centralized ones which too will cave to digital ID and surveillanceat the very least use something with strong E2EE if youre not hosting it like Signal (which is otherwise modernslop phone forced garbage but at least secure and easy)Selfhost matrix/XMPP whatever is the way>its hard insert other invalid excuses hereI guess for the meeting phase before you decide if someones worth keeping and getting on your server you can use like Steam which is the least cancer out of the big ones imo that people are also willing to use.
>>109408336I missed the whole dicord thing. No regrets. Don't use insagram, twitter, facebook, telegram, signal, whatsapp reddit, onedrive, aws, netflix, spotify either and you deserve hell if you do.
>>109408343Discord loves this thought-terminating cliche.
>>109413910>Discord was very heavily shilled in the beginning, none of it was natural.I had a postgrad lecturer who tried make us use it. Pathetic. Never participated in that slop and passed with distinction.
>>109414109zamn... do you at least watch youtube?
>>109414087if you can'y connect to systems securely via a wan and IP network for voice and chat you should not even be on this boardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CU-SeeMewhat is a VPN what is a tunnel what is a VM
Only dweebs think that people on discord are friends
>>109414179this but with any people kek
>>109414144rarely these days, it's become a bit shit franklye.ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKxeQY5gnnwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhS_Apv1zek(One niche interest but they are just cancer now and delete and censor everytying in all my other interests too so I dont; use it much anymore, look at places like rumble more ). I find google search and news unbearable garbage too and went back to using yahoo. Google sucks ass.
>>109408336pretty good, how can I use something like this for my self hosted on my own domain matrix?
>>109408336I never used it all that much so I never really saw the days it was good and everything about it now definitely keeps me away from wanting to use it at allI'm glad IRC never changed, even if most channels are dead and full of faggots saying join us on discord
>>109414231irc has been stone cold dead for a long time now anon.
>>109414300i know but at least it's the same
>>109408954anon you are NOT fooling anyone with that font and css styling. very default llm outputs on display. shameful.
>simple c/rust client with chat, vc, and screensharing with audiowhy has nobody done such a thing?why do you have to use electron slop and a bunch of niggascript?
>>109408356You have bad friends if they won't migrate with you.
>>109410967when have I stated any of these two were any better or worse you fat cock sucking retard
>>109408336nobody likes discord, but it's what everyone usepeople are complacent and won't change something until it gets more uncomfortable using it than finding something elseit is how it is
>>109414109Yeah you need friends for most of those. I don't use them either because I don't have any. I am not able to maintain stable relationships with anyone because of my boo-hoo disorder
>>109414765>act like a fool >get called out>"n-no u"attaboy
>>109414825>it's what everyone useNot I, too many poojoos and shlomos last I checked I was on a modding group and the chat was filled with mossad rats posting propaganda, anyone promoting that piece of garbage is probably a homoshlomo sitting in a bunker in tel aviv
I use endcord. Problem solved.
>>109416703there are people who end themselves with a cord