Can I get the genuine, honest rundown on battery charging? I've heard that you shouldn't charge a depleted battery because it damages it, but then I've heard you shouldn't charge an only semi-depleted battery because that also charges itIs it real? Does it matter?
>you shouldn't charge a depleted batteryso you think you're just never supposed to charge it again?fully discharging a lithium ion battery will damage it, but your device will generally shut off before then
>>109409036Keep your phone charged between 20 - 80% and you'll be good. That's the current mindset these days. My iPhone 14 Pro still has some 88% of its max capacity nearly four years later doing this and I'm pretty happy with it.
>>109409036>you shouldn't charge an only semi-depleted battery because that also charges itdamn
>>109409036The truth is that it's different for every battery. Some batteries prevent you from completely charging or discharging them. Some smartphones will show you 100% battery when the battery is charged to 80% to protect it etc. It's usually said to keep it between 20-80%, but that advice is pretty outdated and can even reduce battery lifetime. It really depends on your model of battery, the charger you use and the hardware you use it for.
>>109409036batteries can only be charged a set amount of times, around 1000 for slow charge and 600 for fast charge,so if you're a sperg who charges their phone daily expect it to last 18 months.
>>109409292Why didn't they just make the battery indicator show 20%-80%?
>>109409492They do, but they show it as 0%-100%. Otherwise people would get confused about why they can't charge it past 80% or why they have to turn it off at 20%.
phone batterys love to sit between 40-60%. That's where I keep mine most of the time. I rarely allow it to discharge it before 35% and limit to 70% charge. 2 years later and I'm at 97% battery health
We need better battery tech, LiPo is ghey, but also normies can't be trusted with dense energyKeep your phone 60-80% most of the time and it'll be fine
>>109409516no they don't? my iphone doesn't charge past 80%
>>109410356That's a setting you dumb cunt.
Modern phones simply lie to you to keep the charge level and charge speed at safe levels, you ever notice how 90-100 last a long time but also take a long fucking time to trickle-charge from 90 to 100%It's usually closer to 70% by then
>>109409054No I mean letting it get to 0% then charging it is bad for it, is what I hear
>>1094090360% to 100%I don't give a shit. Those eggheads at the phone companies should figure that out themselves.
>>109409036https://randsinrepose.com/guides/apple-charging/apple-charging-guide.html
>>109410073Everything must be fake and gay in normie world.
>>109417340Meant for >>109413438
I dont even know why I effort post anymore when everyone can get an AI to vomit out a mostly correct answer.Because of the chemistry of lithium batteries the general rules apply to pretty much all of them.technically anything over "80%" is an overcharge that causes way more wearout.Anything below 40% is also too depleted and causing more wearout when charging back up.The 80-20 rule is basic, and correct in a general sense, but ideally it should be kept between 80 and 40 for absolute longest life.A battery's first full charge and drain and recharge will usually cause a 1-2% loss of max capacity.They also usually lose 0.5-1% per year (while being regularly used).fast charging does indeed cause more stresstemps matter, keep it above 5C and below 38.>>109413438it's because of two things, the % readout is really basic and from a long running text file that drifts over time, they do this instead of raw voltage readings because every battery is different but the base OS is the same, it's kept simple because nobody cares. your batt is full, it doesnt matter until it needs to be charged, they arent spending money making it accurate, and voltage doesnt tell you much unless that specific battery in that specific device is drain curve tested across multiple amp rates. and since batteries have variance more than you'd expect its a waste of time to try and be totally accurate for mass production devices.And, batteries in low drain situations (such as a phone) hold a high charge voltage for a longer time before it starts to drop along the curvecombine the two and you have your 100 to 90 being unreliable.>>109409699I've read some things that suggest a storage charge of 55% is more ideal than 45%>>109409036personally, I'm one of those as you can tellI regularly let my phone sit uncharged at 45-60%, always use the powersaving stuff at max, and only perform a 100>0>100 cycle once or twice a year for calibration purposes.
>>109413438yeah when i charge up to 100% it will stay at 100% for like half an hour
>>109409036batteries are consumable itemsdon't let the retards trick you into to not using the full batteryit will degrade with age regardless
>>109419212>such consumables that the only batteries you can get for your phone are old stock from near the release date of the model
>>109409036Everything you need to know is here.
>>109409036Normal phones and laptops have some controls that prevent battery from being fully charged/discharged.So 100% isn't true 100%, don't worry.If you leave it without power for a year that's bad tho
>>109409036here are my 2 centsi bought huawei p20 pro when it came out in 2018. at the time it launched it had a very good battery life, large capacity for the time (4000 mah) combined with aggressive battery saving settings (typical for chink phones at the time and even today). first 2-3 years battery lasted for so long and it charged so quickly with included charger that i only really charged it once in the afternoon. i would top it off from 30ish percent to 80-90 and unplug it. after 2 years of using it like that battery degraded and i often needed to top it off 2 times a day, but i dont got time for that so i started charging it overnight to 100% and it lasted me whole day for 2 years. after that i noticed i sometimes had to top it off in the middle of the day in order to avoid battery anxiety later that day so i snooped around and found some settigns for battery life preservation like never really charging to 100%, or only charging to 100% moments before it would start to get used (phone learns from your usage, like alarm, when you turn it on in the morning etc). anyway i turned all of those off, continued to charge it overnight and i again could get whole day battery life for year, year and half more before i noticed i again ha to charge it 2 or even 3 times a day. the phone slowed down a little bit. finally the battery was done, after almost 8 years of abusenow im running oppo find x9 pro. tok it off charger this morning at 8 am, it is now 11 pm and it has 60% battery with 3,5h SOT. smart thing would be to charge it to 80% tomorrow after i get up, but fuck that i just plug it every night and dont think about it. i wouldnt want to use it after 5 years anyway so no point in trying to stretch battery health so hardtl:dr: charge it overnight and dont think about it. dont be a slave to something so inexpensive and easily replaceable like a phone
>>109410356If anything, that just keeps it between 40-60% actual
>>109410073qrd on silicon-carbon batteries? Slop related
>>109409036The only thing that determines the wear is the total charge passed through the battery. Keeping it 20%-80% simply means using it less so the wear is less. If you 20%-80% two times a day vs 0-100% one time a day the former will have more wear.
>>109410073We need nuclear. Fuck charging.
>>109409036>you shouldn't charge an only semi-depleted battery because that also charges it
>>109419263Would be based if they weren't hardglued behind 5 thermal seals but actually made in a way you could replace them, because right now it's made in a way where you throw the whole phone away.Gotta Need eu to step up against planned obsolescence
>>109422771skill issue
>>109409036i'll assume we're talking lithium here but you might wanna let people know in advance when asking. unless it's about a lone cell (like18650) every battery/device has BMS(battery management system) which will prevent you from having your battery both undercharged and overcharged. with modern lithium charging it when half full does basically nothing to damage it. what breaks your battery is heat. for example if you game on your phone for a long time and plug this bitch to charge when it's hot that WILL degrade it. people will tell you to not go under 30% and over 80% charge but that mostly gets cancelled out by increased number of charge/discharge cycles so i wouldn't be very anal about it, just not worth the effort. when storing device/battery not in use over longer periods of time keep it around 50% charge (fully charged/discharged will fuck it up relatively fast) and it'll hardly degrade even over many years. of course there are exceptions to this rule where basically every smartphone will drain your battery (and surprisingly fast too) even when supposedly switched off. that's the gist of it.
