can you show your actual gnome desktop while in use? every desktop env looks clean when nothing is being done.

>>109414425
GNOME is controlled opposition for KDE
the devs are planted and funded to be as incompetent as possible making decisions that no sane person would make just so kde wouldn't have a monopoly

>>109414449
there are no screenshots of gnome in use, because nobody who uses gnome does any actual work

>>109414425
It looks like shit and has no use case.

>>109414449
Im not on my pc rn, i was actually about to go to bed.but if the thread is still up tomorrow i guess ill share a screenshot.

Honestly i think it still looks pretty clean when you have a bunch of programs open, especially if you look at it from the overview.

>>109414425
Wow GNOME is a really funny way to mistype XFCE.
>>109414464
I like KDE more then gnome but I honestly also find it kinda bad, it feels buggy.

>>109414425
I use Linux Mint, it's pretty good.

>>109414465
>>109414481
I use it for music production, video editing, gaming, browsing the web basically. Tried a bunch of different stuff, but gnome just works best for me. I think its really good, and by far the most over hated DE

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>>109414518
that's at least four workspaces and gnome only lets you orient workspaces on an one-dimensional line

>>109414425
I don't like uis that look like this, and I hate the tablet feel gnome has.
I like kde more but it feels like it's doing too much. I just need something basic like xfce or lxqt (or mate).

>>109414508
just wait til you discover KDE Plasma 6.7

>>109414482
>mobilefag
>refuses to show desktop
>admits to shitposting
everytime

>>109414425
Completely false. Absolutely mogged by KDE and Cinnamon.
https://woltman.com/gnome-bad/

>>109414518
>over hated DE
the hate is justified IMHO. You can use it and like it. I can honestly say from afar it is nice to look at. I enjoy the clean looking applications, however, when in use, the desktop itself pisses me the fuck right off.
>no desktop icons
>no task bar
>no window controls
adding them bogs it down to a snail's pace on even high end hardware.

>>109414559
I usually have like 2-3 workspaces. I actually close programs when im done with them, im not editing a video and producing music and playing a game at the same time.
Thats also kinda what i mean when i say gnome forces you to be more organized, to work efficiently with it you cant keep too many programs open that youre not using. and i feel like thats not something you should ever want anyway, having a bunch of unused programs running in the background

>>109414518
nah

>>109414594
>no desktop icons
>no task bar
>no window controls
I can see why that would be annoying, but honestly i rarely ever used these features anyway.

Dont use desktop icons, searching for programs is usually easier for me since you dont have to switch from keyboard to mouse

If you wanna see the task at just press the meta key

I use shortcuts for window controls. meta+a for toggle maximization, and meta+q for closing the app

>>109414673
>DE
>can't even do desktop icons or task bar
>i-i-it's over hated
L
O
L

>>109414675
As i said, you dont need desktop icons. Also tiling WMs het glazed so much here and also dont support desktop icons

>>109414425
No it isn't. KDE plasma is.

>>109414683
I don't give a rats ass what you think I need faggot. get the fuck out of here. the hate is justified.
>why does everyone hate niggers
because they steal everything not nailed down or behind bullet proof plexi
>you don't NEED those items
fuck off you delusional jew.

>>109414594
>adding them bogs it down to a snail's pace on even high end hardware
can't relate desu

>>109414710
Why are you talking about niggers and jews?

Just saying your workflow would probably be more efficient without desktop icons anyway, pretty sure the only reason people use them is bc they got used to it when you were on windows.

Anyways you seem like a fucking schizo retard

>>109414585
Sure ill show my desktop i cant sleep anyway, also how am i shitposting this is my real (and correct) opinion

>>109414425
>GNOME is the best linux desktop environment
You spelled MATE wrong.

>>109414425
I don't like Vanilla gnome, but the Ubuntu desktop is really good.
It takes a few extensions to make Gnome perfect but if you use them, it's so much better than KDE and those two are years ahead of everything else.

>>109414757
listen up you stupid fucking jew, and listen well because I am done interacting with retards for the day:
People like the Windows paradigm.
get that through your thick fucking jewish skull. I hate you faggots so much it's actually insane.

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heres the desktop, just opened a bunch of random stuff

>>109414425
i actually did come around to liking gnome more than kde plasma
i just couldnt take more buggy updates on arch

>>109414837
the windows paradigm is designed in the 90s for computer illiterate boomers, youre allowed to like it, but gnome is just superior im sorry

>>109414594
kde plasma applications are so fucking ugly its insane
why cant they even try to get close to gtk 4 libadwaita

>>109414862
it isn't superior
good design, doesn't care what decade it was developed in, we still use round wheels for cars.
kill yourself immediately

>>109414425
gnome is fine after you add enough extensions so that it acts more like macos otherwise the default work flow is garbage

>>109414866
thank god you can change them, unlike gnome which blocks you every time it updates, you can use the gtk4 icons on KDE Plasma if you desire

>>109414839
why don't you have ublock origin? are you fucking dumb?

>>109414879
because he isn't actually using gnome, it is installed inside a VM that he created for this thread to be a giant massive faggot.

>>109414874
What extensions would that be?

>>109414887
>Dash to Dock
>Just Perfection
>Kiwi Menu
>Rounded Window Corners Reborn
and I like Freon too for the bullshit stats on the top menu bar
add all that junk and gnome becomes usable

>>109414898
Thanks anon, I'll check those out.

>>109414871
windows was designed to be intuitive for boomer office workers, not designed to have an actual efficient workflow, thats why i say gnome is superior.
Anyway youre annoying and im tired so im not gonna respond to your retarded comments anymore

It isn't that Gnome is bad, it is that all it's users and it's retard developers act like giant massive retarded faggots about it. They go against the grain of what people tend to like and wonder why they get hated. It is the same as if you went into a public space and started screaming at the top of your lungs and smashing shit, then wondering why you are put into handcuffs and end up with legal charges. You people can't seem to grasp that the world around you is designed in such a way to make humans more comfortable with things, not aliens. When you develop something alien, don't be surprised when humans hate it.

>>109414906
it was designed to work for workflows you massive deluded tranny. the hatred is justified. people hate gnome because it gets in the way of WORK.

>>109414906
nobody wants gnome, not even you, that's why you used a vm with only 20.1gb of ram. you couldn't even be bothered to set the ram to something believable.

>>109414883
Nope this is my actual pc lol, idk why you think im trolling, is it that hard for you to believe ppl like gnome?
Anyway yeah i dont have an adblocker installed, i kinda dislike browser extensions, i should probably set up pi-hole or something

>>109414922
I used to have 4gb in my pc and then put in 16gb more jwsus christ

>>109414876
theming is a fucking mess
i would rather not

>>109414933
then why does your screenshot show 20.9gb? why continue the lie?
That's not how ram works
You just made yourself look even dumber to everyone else here. You should kill yourself from embarrassment for being so stupid.

>>109414935
works fine on kde plasma 6.7, I like the default icons though so I don't want to change them, however they are included in most distros, and you can just pick them. I can set bazzite to switch to the gtk icons if I so desired. Nothing to install. It just works.

>>109414940
Why are you so angry lmao
What can i do to prove to you its actually running on my pc?
I can take a video for you if you want

>>109414951
because above all I hate liars who use said lies to manipulate things, and it's not even the lie that bothers me most here, it's that you were so fucking lazy about it thinking I wouldn't notice. you are a shitty person. I hate you with every fiber of my being for being said pile of shit. I sincerely hope you repent, but I know you won't, so I hope you actually take a warm bath tonight and slit your wrists long ways for being so fucking insufferable.

>>109414951
show a fastfetch screenshot proving it's not a vm, or I am reporting the thread.

>>109414961
https://streamable.com/mzcj0i
Took an entire video of me boosting up my pc lol

thats what I fucking thought

>>109414993
Sure

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>>109414993
so can i maybe get an apology now hehe

>>109414947
do you recommend any themes?
i just want something simple with some transparency

>>109414582
I might check it out someday, I'm content with what I've got for now.

>>109414465
linus torvalds uses it. ubuntu uses it. cent os/alma/rhel - which are used by pixar and nasa - use it
kde is gaymers only

>>109415345
nah none of that's true

>>109415392
lol

>>109415025
>Uptime: 2 mins
Nta but nice try

two words: useless fucking top bar

>>109414425
>lack of a system tray
you mean bundling those icons together in a dropout menu? because it definitely does support tray icons (on ubuntu)
>Also the alt tab behaviour took a little bit to get used to.
why would you ever use alt-tab, gnome has proper workspaces

>>109415862
Not him but I've been alt tabbing since Windows 3.1 and an old dog can't learn new tricks.
Alternatively... jump on board with the UI that was perfected in 1995, get a taskbar on the bottom and click the program you want.
Cinnamon and KDE default to the correct layout that 90 percent of the world wants
>muh workspace
useless and nobody in the world actually uses this

>>109414590
either Canonical did a miracle with gnome or its just not that bad. Ive used gnome 4+ for the first time recently and it was very uneventful and unemotional, things really arent that different. also, gtk app theming actually works so it wasnt an ugly PoS like Qt/Plasma. the people that make gnome are demons though.

>>109415958
I get emotional when a static top bar exists that serves no purpose and does nothing but takes up screen real estate

>>109414940
>20.9gb
>1.6gb reserved (cache and other things)
>GiB <-> GB bullshittery
not OP but that is in fact how ram works + you are retarded

>>109415958
gnomes is completely fine and actually uses less resources than plasma
autists hate it because it forces you into the gnome workflow

>>109414837
>People like the Windows paradigm.
grok is this real? is this why I >>109415958 didnt hate gnome
>>109415978
that bar has the workspace indicator, clock, tray icons and the menu for doing wifi/bluetooth, etc
>>109415994
I mean you do need to install dconf-editor to get more than 4 workspaces, but once you configure it you get a regular floating window environment but with proper workspaces. I just set the ubuntu dock to auto-hide.

>>109414887
whatever ubuntu adds + disable-workspace-switcher-overlay and "previous-workspace" that last one is very simple so I just vibe-coded it

>>109414425
>On other DE's i sometimes had like 5 different browser window open. GNOME forces you to stay organized. That also makes it easier to actually stay focused on the thing youre working on.
MASSIVE skill issue. What you're saying is akin to "thinking is hard work, so I gave myself a lobotomy. Now I never have the problem of thinking too much!"

>>109416083
yeah but let's not forget the taskbar has all this shit, and Ubuntu also has a huge ass sidebar. Why not combine them and put them on the bottom? No reason except to look like a macfag. But unlike GNOME, the mac top bar integrates with programs and serves a real purpose.

>>109416083
>>109416104
Use case for workspaces? Imaginary screens for those who cant afford real ones?

>>109415920
Im a tiling window manager snob so Ive really come to hate the windows paradigm and gnome is closer to it than most. I'll admit windows perfected its whole paradigmn though, macOS has a half-baked floating window workflow and its just bad

>>109416162
overlapping windows is just inefficient and annoying, workspaces is a tool for preventing this

>>109414425
I don't want a desktop that looks like MacOS, I'd rather use KDE which can be customized into what I want mostly or assemble my own desktop environment, for boring stability I'd choose Xfce. And if you do any unironic serious work you 100% should be having a work laptop with windows on it, don't kid yourself.

>>109416175
No overlapping on my 6 physical screens.

>>109416083
gnome has dymanic workspaces
doenst have a limit, maybes thats an ubuntu thing

>>109415862
>why would you ever use alt-tab, gnome has proper workspaces
I can't remember if this is the default behavior, but on my machine a single Alt+Tab switches to the previously-focused application across all workspaces. So if I'm frequently switching between, say, the browser and the terminal, Alt+Tab is easier than Ctrl+Alt+Left and Ctrl+Alt+Right (or switching to the mouse, moving it to the workspace indicator, and horizontally scrolling), even though I have the browser and terminal in adjacent workspaces.

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>>109414425
>Redpill: GNOME is the best linux desktop environment
I'm already redpilled. GNOME is the Linux DE, if you install Debian and select "Debian Desktop", you will end up with GNOME. Or if you are an enterprise customer, Canonical, RedHat, SUSE... they all come with the GNOME Desktop. Stable releases, doesn't crash and enterprise friendly. Sure, it's a bit slower on adapting new features, but when they come, they are stable.
>https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-desktops-july-2026
Even the recent Benchmark shows, that in all Enterprise Applications, GNOME wins by a lot, but gaming is actually tied, but even in some Games, GNOME wins by ~5FPS. But KDEtards will seethe (picrel).
>SteamOS
But I feel like KDE could get better gayming perf, with Valve in the back, but thinking about it, they don't really care for the desktop, their gaming are running in gamescope, without a desktop.

>>109414683
>ACTUALLY you don't need this feature every other DE and OS has.
Fuck you.

>>109415345
>cent os/alma/rhel
people that do actual work use those without a DE

>>109416264
You can simply enable an extension for desktop icons, if you really need them. Just like Ubuntu does it and they don't randomly "break". This just happens on rolling release distros, when the maintainers can't catch up, so this will never happen on LTS.

>>109416217
yes but I dont like those, I have 10 fixed workspaces and it works. the configs were just not added to the UI

If it really wants to become a Linux-only desktop, then fine. I will just continue to use environments that are portable across all the Unices.

>>109416291
>have to install a workaround to get basic functionality from a DE
I'll just use any of the other DEs that are already fully functional out of the box instead switching to your retarded fisher price DE

>>109416227
it doesnt seem to work like this on my multi-monitor setup. thats why I made the "previous-workspace" extension with mod+backtick keybind. or just press the designated workspace combo, mod+1 and mod+2 for browser and terminal on my setup

>>109416316
Alright, "enjoy".

>>109416166
>Im a tiling window manager snob
It'll never take off. To each his own. But most people understand how retarded it is and how much more difficult it is to use.

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>Alright, "enjoy".

>>109414425
>looks super clean
debatable. it looks like a toy version of macos.
>stable and well supported
some apps, e.g. nautilus, are unstable in my experience. they don't bring down the system when they crash, so whatever.
>the gnome workflow is very good
if you make some changes, then yes. the alt-tab behaviour is shit; make caps a second esc and use alt-esc instead.
>limited customisation
it would be nice if i could remove the clock from the top bar and lock screen. jeet extensions can only remove the former.
>lack of a system tray
can be added with extensions, but gnome is now focussed on their 'background apps' menu system.

t. using gnome since 2018.

>>109416330
>how retarded it is
have you actually ever used it? just because it has a learning curve doesnt make it bad. Im on a computer almost every waking moment. it would be completely pants on head retarded if I didnt try to optimize its usage

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>>109414425
you posted this on lain as well

>>109416324
I just checked, and my keybinds aren't the default, but they're configurable without extensions. (I'm not sure how they interact with multiple monitors, though; I only have my laptop's built-in display right now. I do also have Settings -> Multitasking -> App Switching set to "Include apps from all workspaces", and I'm not sure which is the default there.)

In Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Navigation, I have:
- "Switch applications" mapped to Alt+Tab (default is Super+Tab, but as far as I can tell, Alt+Tab has the same behavior by default, unless you map Super+Tab elsewhere, in which case Alt+Tab does nothing unless you explicitly map it here)
- "Switch windows" mapped to Super+Tab (default is disabled) (I mainly use this one for switching between different browser windows)

>thats why I made the "previous-workspace" extension with mod+backtick keybind
I was going to tell you there's a configurable "Switch to last workspace" keybind in the same section I described above, but apparently "last" means final/rightmost, not previously-focused. They really should add that to the stock list, even if they leave it unbound by default.

If guh-nome is the red pill, then I'm cipher.

>>109414425
I will never ever understand how anyone fucking likes that shit. Sometimes I'll accidentally install that shit when I am installing a debian when I am not paying attention and i'll load into it and just say fuck it use it just cause. The experience is such unbelievably dog shit I feel like the entire thing has so much wasted fucking space giant ass icons that are taking up my screen that isn't needed. Everything looks fucking bloated like ass when a simple menu can be used.

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>>109414425
>something i dont really like is the lack of a system tray
yeah this is one of my biggest issues also, ultimately though gnome just werks and its software suite is pretty good. arch + gnome cured my distro hopping

>>109414594
>>109414675
>>109416264
>desktop icons
Genuinely, usecase? Are you using them to launch applications? I just hit Super, type the name of the application until it's unambiguous (usually three letters), then hit Enter.

>>109415798
Im back from my nap. Yes i turned on my pc to take this screenshot... I literally sent a video of me turning on my pc and booting into gnome earlier. I do not know why its so hard to believe for you that people like gnome.

>>109417029
Because gnome is dogshit and even you hate it.

>>109416797
Have you ever tried to not be such a cocksucking jew?

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This confuses the jew. The jewish brain can’t comprehend more than one thing at a time. They lack the ability to have more than one coherent parallel thought. They need to be told what to do. Their natural state is to be slaves because they’re simply too stupid to do anything more. They’re a few iq points above niggers. Still within the range of mental retardation. That’s why you’ll see them gravitate to stupid shit like gnome. Once you realize this, it’ll all make sense.

>>109417143
/thread

>>109414449
What does this even mean? I use gnome and have windows open.

>>109417262
>jew

The jew cries
>usecase?
Because they can’t see past their noses to understand that the normal way to do things like desktop icons is a good thing that people like. They want to take it away from you. They want to remove your ability to enjoy things. They’re evil subhumans with no souls.

>>109417143
Looks like incompetent design to me.

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>>109414425
Imagine needing more... I was a floating WM user since Windows 98 and one day it just clicked and I never went back. Guess I just matured enough and don't need all the flashy animations, decorations and icons any longer.

>>109417281
We know jew. You want a coloring book and some crayons?

>>109417294
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHHA.
This guy knows.
/thread

>>109417294
Look at the calendar. The square is not even properly centered around the numbers. Also what gay brown calendar is 26 Fourth month bing-wu? Homo

>>109417292
Investigate niri.

>>109417306
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Crayola-Bluey-Color-and-Sticker-Activity-Set-with-Pipsqueak-Markers-Gift-for-Kids-Ages-3-4-5-6-Coloring-Pages-and-Stickers/1505979798?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=1976&adid=222222222981505979798_0000000000_23887149012&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=&wl4=&wl5=9058738&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=1505979798&veh=sem&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23892387002&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIoeLVRkxk2sjoYO8eZYs9QNg&gclid=CjwKCAjwj7HTBhBiEiwA8s35OvtQ9Z0cHM9FezQYcDggCav86xsJ7A9hnyYuYTY4a3_3rod6XyFxfRoCdXIQAvD_BwE
Here you go little guy. It’s really cheap.

>>109416797
Such workflow filters kde users. Their app search also reorders results as results come in. It's really mine boggling, because I just assume they have never actually used gnome or just retarded.

>>109417327
Fuck I spat coffee onto my monitor. Holy fucking shit. Hahahaha.

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Gnome could never be this comfy.

>>109417357
who the fuck is John

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>>109417367
Who the fuck cares jew? You’ll never have a real workflow because your brain lacks the ability to multitask.

>>109417367
No one knows who John Galt is. It's lost knowledge.

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>>109417331
God that was so hard… idk if I could ever type 3 letters ever again.
Why are you jews so fucking stupid?

>>109417372
>nederlands
you can absolutely multitask on gnome, it just prevents your pc from becoming a cluttered mess like yours is.

>>109417292
tiling window managers are peak. i just dont like all the config to make it look nice. and in some situations i actually much prefer floating windows, like sometimes i have more than 3 windows in a workspace and tiling starts to get annoying

>>109417474
gTile may be your friend. Let me know what you think. I usually tile the main apps, if you will, and let float or use other workspaces for everything else.

>>109414999
slowest fucking boot ive ever seen, jesus christ you suck op. you are probably a dumb europoor zoomer so ill give you the benefit of the doubt for not experiencing the GOAT gnome 2.0 era, but windows 8 came out with this retarded tile UI and gnome devs, being the retarded autists they are, thought "mobile ui for desktop" was the future and went all in. they fucked the pooch on gnome3

>>109417357
>>109417372
>>109417403
So pretty, lil niggi. Is this dutch?

>>109417306
>Look at the calendar. The square is not even properly centered around the numbers.
ya, and if you file a bug report they'll probably fix it in the next release. gnome's answer to this problem would be "usecase for calendar?"

>>109417577
Gnome has a calendar widget too and it works basically the same as the kde one. It just isn't functionally ugly.

>>109414425
You mean, old gnome, right? Modern gnome is worse than W11

>>109414425
i really like COSMIC :)

>>109417614
tranny

>>109417499
>slowest fucking boot ive ever seen
I know, i have shitty hdd
>jesus christ you suck op
:(
>you are probably a dumb europoor zoomer
That is true

>>109417638
rude & meanpilled

>>109417667
If you take the 4gb stick out, it’ll run faster you retarded jew.

>>109417614
ygmi

>>109414425
Usecase for trolling?

>>109417749
That’s how jewish people act. They can’t just exist without being insufferable. Why do you think they’re banned from most European countries?

>>109417707
Oh thanks ill try that

>>109417312
niri is retarded, it brings back the floating wm concept of hidden windows, which is the twm's main advantage

>>109417474
>just dont like all the config to make it look nice
have a look at noctalia or DMS
>in some situations i actually much prefer floating windows
some allow per workspace tiling/floating mode, like mangowm

>>109417824
make sure you have the remaining 2 sticks in ram slot #2 and #4 or #1 and #3, and not any other combination, then you have proper dual channel bandwidth

>>109414425
I just installed UBENTO a couple of days ago and I hate it. You have to open the settings to get to a volume mixer. What the fuck?

>>109414464
KDE Is unusable garbage thoughbeit. It looks like shit, it's laggy, has inconsistent interfaces / fonts, the devs are even bigger faggots than GNOME devs. Unironically KDE is heavier than GNOME. I can run GNOME on an x200. KDE was just slow as shit and unusable.

>>109415832
Dash to Panel

>>109420279
Never had any of these issues.
Seems like a YOU problem anon.

>>109414425
I use GNOME and can confirm on the weird alt tab behavior.

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>>109420844
the default gnome behavior regarding window switching is weird. you can use

gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings

to list all window-related keybindings and make adjustments. for example, you can set alt-tab from switch-applications to switch-windows. also there is the cycle-windows keybinding. but this is not exposed in the settings gui, maybe in gnome tweaks, idk

>>109416274
except maya is only officially supported on alma, retard. i didnt list companies that only use those distros as a server tty. if i counted those, the list would be endless

I'd call Gnome garbage but at least garbage has some use and can be burned for heat

Can I freely fuck around with extensions to see which ones I'll like or do I risk bugs that necessitate a reinstall of the entire DE?

>>109421207
>bugs that necessitate a reinstall of the entire DE
you'll be fine as long as you don't go installing random shit from github, get them from the extension site

>>109415345
>linus torvalds uses it
He very openly uses a Mac.

>>109415345
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html

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OP is right. It just works.

>>109422785
I prefer plasma for rolling release and gnome for point release, that way the extension maintainers can keep up, I've noticed some extensions on Arch can take a couple day to actually work, you don't have this problem with Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora

>>109422785
>OP is replying to his own thread to validate his jew existence

>>109422806
It's true. I only update gnome after a week of its release on arch for this reason.

>>109415862
>>you mean bundling those icons together in a dropout menu? because it definitely does support tray icons (on ubuntu)
Yes, it USED to work like that. Now you won't always get them depending on the program, for example Dropbox is completely invisible to GNOME now

>>109415345
Linus used KDE as soon as the licensing issue was resolved. Nowadays he just uses macOS depressingly

>>109414425
kys ebussy

>>109414425
>Lack of Features is actually a good thing!
Yea, we in the industry call it coping.