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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music Models and Software

Previous: >>109415213

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image

>Qwen
https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>LTX-2.3
https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23

>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>109416259
>I pull weekly and have literally never had dynamic VRAM give me problems.
Comfy, please, on reddit they can't stop complaining about your dynamic vram flop
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>>109416267
>isnt t2v superior? you don't have to keep swapping models when you want to change something about the scene
not at all, at least with i2v you can completly control the scene, and you can do some first frame + end frame kino
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>>109416305
>>109416309
>Spamming/Flooding
you know what to do
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>>109416297
They only complain because tards are mixing nodes which don't use ComfUI memory management. In the past this wasn't an immediate issue but now it might be. Also, they are too stupid to add couple of launch parameters in this case
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The more important question, will training loras for flux3 and hailou3 be day1 available and easy?
For porn, obviously.
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>>109416303
i kind of like the variety of the scenes that t2v gives you. i don't want to see the same thing over and over because then i will get bored of whatever i am trying to do
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>Chromea lora
The full model better be, by some miracle, way better than this, because it has all the rigidness and slop of krea, while degrading general anatomy, and only slightly nudging it in the direction of acquiring some basic booru knowledge. It doesn't act at all like Illustrious / Noob / Anima. Even Anima preview1 was miles ahead on booru knowledge. Haven't tested furry and not going to.
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I really hope I can run that on my 3090
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>>109416315
>In the past this wasn't an immediate issue but now it might be.
congrats on destroying the custom node ecosystem Comfy, you know that your software got famous only because it was customizable right? and now you want to destroy your only advantage? goddam you're so retarded
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>>109416319
>will training loras for flux3 and hailou3 be day1 available and easy?
like always, since when the lora nerds failed a model?
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>>109416322
>i don't want to see the same thing over and over
I don't get it, make different images? don't use the same image over and over yeah?
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>>109416340
You don't understand at all. Badly designed nodes are the issue.
You don't seem to understand what "launch parameter" means either because you don't probably even generate images.
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>>109416357
>you don't probably even generate images
strawman final boss
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Will flux3 overtake krea2 as the premier model to use?
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>>109416356
i'm not going to spend time unloading my video model to go back to an image model if i decide that i would rather have the potted trees in the scene be replaced by benches
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>>109416336
what do you mean? minimax is gonna be open source or something?
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flux3 won't even overtake Klein as the most used Flux model
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>>109416361
>Will flux3 overtake krea2
no one is gonna deal with a multimodal model just to make images (especially for training), this is just bloat
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>>109416376
multimodal is the future
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>>109416360
It's a simple deduction. Enjoy the attention.
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>>109416361
>as the premier model to use
you mean the premier non anime model
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>>109416367
>minimax is gonna be open source or something?
yeah
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>>109416360
he isn't exactly wrong. plus most people are using hyper slopped workflows they download from youtube or civit with tons of random custom nodes and bloat.
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>>109416384
>deduction
*hallucination, don't believe everything you hear from the voices in your head you know
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>>109416387
why would comfy use his magic to make it slow on a 3060? is he evil?
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>>109416387
>open source
(((Open))) Model, not open source
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>>109416410
kek
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>>109416414
>not open source
open sourcing models is literally illegal, do you really think they can release their copyrighted training data?
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>>109416397
stop attacking me
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>>109416422
slow ass jet
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>>109416424
plus other restrictions. depends on how chink-jew they are
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>>109416283
These are men.
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>>109416382
it's not, and minimax just proved it, for people who just want to make videos why would they want a model that gets bigger because it can do things they don't give a fuck about? memory is already a huge problem, and you want to add useless layers on top of that? not on my watch
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I think minimax can do realism just fine
https://xcancel.com/VoidAsuka/status/2082910912063869309#m
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>>109416461
>minimax just proved it
so you're the same retarded anon who never took a class on basic logic
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>>109416469
Concession Accepted.
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>>109416474
yeah okay retard-who-shits-on-the-board-and-claims-he-won
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https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Kroma
who's courageous enough to try it?
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>>109416429
the aircraft catapult broke
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>>109416481
nice that he finally gave a model a card
conceptually a neat idea desu
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>>109416469
who needs image>edit>video>edit in a single model/workflow?
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>>109416467
>1girl, sitting, minimal motion
Nigga LTX could do that video
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flux is still WAY better. But H3 will be more widely used since it will be much smaller and RLed to the gills like zimage was.
https://x.com/OriSilver/status/2082420873840013784?s=20
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>>109415985
It's my Chroma-Krea wf v2 anon-kun https://litter.catbox.moe/qvncvcg8if1ofwti.png. Krea 2 img2img based on my Chroma HD Flash Delta/HD mix, prompted at 2k for a 0.5-0.6 denoise. Fixes all small details. Everything is int8 convrot so it's fast. As it stands, Chroma-Krea is perfect for 90%+ of prompts, only occasionally failing when T5 fails.
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>>109416498
the point was that minimax can make unslopped realistic videos, if you want fast action it can do that too
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Now I download LTX models and try that. Wan isn't very good I don't think.
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>>109416500
>t2v comparaison
meh, I only use videos models for i2v
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>>109416496
uh?
multimodal is about the model having the knowledge of several modes, not just text or just images or just video or just audio
it's all together and it all makes the model stronger
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>>109416500
you're comparing flux 3 against seedance 2.0 though? how can you tell minimax can't do something better than that?
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is there a single person who has 16+gb of vram that actually benefits from dynamic vram?
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>>109416523
it's a sound theory for API models, for local it won't work, it'll just make the model too big for people to care
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>>109416523
how does knowing audio make image generation better?
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>>109416526
cause its worse than seedance 2
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>>109416511
don't do it
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>>109416542
Why
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>>109416547
weights are not safe.
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>>109416539
I prefer flux 3 over seedance on that one, flux 3 managed to make the 80s video style convincing, seedance is kinda slopped on that regard
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>>109416549
What the hell does that mean
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>>109416547
are you capable of handling the power of the kinoplexatorium?
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>>109416511
Wan is unfortunately better than LTX for almost everything. Wait for H3 Minimax drop or Flux 3 if BFL decides to release that.
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>>109416553
sneedance can't do 80s quality? embarrassing for api cucks
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>>109416580
>embarrassing for api cucks
flux 3 dev won't be able to to it too, they'll nuke all the sovl from flux 3 max and give that shit to us lol
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>>109416553
You see, normies do care a great deal about that. There is a reason why Sora 2 went viral so fast when it released. You'd see people making fake Olympics videos, fake toy commercials, fake celebrity tiktok videos, fake 2000s reality show videos, fake 90s sitcom videos etc
None of those are interesting if the model is exclusively biased to cinematic slop
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>>109416564
I don't think so no

>>109416579
Interesting, maybe I am just prompting the vids wrong
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>>109416510
>unslopped realistic videos
The realistic ones are pretty fried looking
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>>109416579
>Wan is unfortunately better than LTX for almost everything
Besides video length, normal speed motion, fps, generation speed, audio and having T2V&I2V in a single model instead of four
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>>109416481
>Turbo better for it

Interesting, I guess I'll have to download Turbo again and give it another try
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>>109416585
Is this a youtuber/streamer lora?
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quick breads`
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>>109416582
>flux 3 dev won't be able to to it too
that's okay, ltx can do it
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Impressive
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>>109416601
Lolcow
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>>109416600
No, I used a porn lora and lenovo ultrareal
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>>109416584
>You see, normies do care a great deal about that.
I'm not a normie but I do care about that as well, sora 2 was so much fun, and Flux 3 seems to be its successor, but it's obvious that Flux 3 dev won't have that level, let's not delude ourselves, only Minimax won't fuck us in the ass
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>>109416603
This level will be impossible on 99% of anon setups. One chad will be able to do it though, and I hope to God I'm here to witness him post.
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>>109416603
Where are the HF model weights?
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>>109416603
I have a feeling this is going to end up being a spaghetti nightmare in cumfart
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>>109416603
why do i feel like i'll be buying a 20 thousand dollar video card in the near future?
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>>109416613
>Where are the HF model weights?
In 2 days!
https://xcancel.com/ModelScope2022/status/2083088877020221525
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Wan is a slow motion jiggle boob walk animation model
LTX is a closeup talking (bad audio) head model
I'm glad this era of local video is finally ending
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>>109416606
I should try out something new too.
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2 days
https://modelscope.cn/models/MiniMax/MiniMax-H3
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>>109416618
>Not today
>But it's being tested today on their API

I sleep. When will a dev that wants to disrupt get this right?
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>>109416618
>another fundraiser countdown
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>>109416626
I still remember that ComfyUi countdown, that was funni
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chang is hyping it up too much now he needs to pull it back
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>>109416611
>but it's obvious that Flux 3 dev won't have that level
Maybe it could with fine-tunes, but hardly anyone is going to train loras for a 30b+ model when a mostly equivalent smaller model is available
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>>109416624
Get people hyped up just to disappoint them with VRAM requirements. Proven formula.
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>>109416629
>pull it
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>>109416629
I hope bfl takes this as a lessen to stop hypefagging and just release the weights
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Who's going to be the first to recreate it
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>>109416629
DID YOU SEE THE PURPLE LOLI ANIME VIDEO DOE?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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>>109416635
>VRAM requirements.
my guess is that it won't be bigger than LTX, comfy said that it can be run on a 3060 >>109416387
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>>109416640
a level of kino we rarely see anymore... on this website or elsewhere...
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>>109416628
You say that like it happened in 1977.
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>>109416642
But he did not imply it wouldn't take an hour or two for 720p, and that's the only model we all want.
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>>109416624
funny thing is that Flux 3 is also being tested today on their API
https://xcancel.com/NousResearch/status/2082911477904654741#m
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>>109416641
quick post the brad pitt tom cruise fight scene that shook hollywood to its core!
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Doesn't the quick release in 2 days signal that they are not confident in beating Flux 3 Dev?
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>>109416654
that video made (((Hollywood))) so mad so I can't help but love it
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>>109416656
Flux 3 dev is doa, the quality won't be close to flux 3 max, and it's gonna be some giant model no one will run, the minimax guys aren't afraid of those frauds
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okay chang you can stop botting the thread now
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>>109416651
a long time can mean anything
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>>109416651
I really hope we'll get a turbo version, if we have to go for like 30 steps it's fucking over lol
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>>109416613
HF will be banned by Trump so everyone is moving to modelscope
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>>109416671
you can tell it's a shill battle since this general is usually dead at euro hours
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>>109416692
>HF will be banned by Trump
why would he ban HF now, the best moment was before Kimi K3's release
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I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather run a huge model that takes 20+ minutes to gen a 10 sec video that does exactly what I prompted for word by word with perfect quality than run a smaller model that generates videos in 5~10 minutes and ignores 70% of the prompt most of the time while delivering a mangled mess in the end
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>>109416696
>this general is usually dead
it's dead when there's no news (duh), now we finally got something interesting to talk about
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>>109416696
new vidya bro, shit is exciting.
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>>109416696
>this general is usually dead at euro hours
remember when eurohours weren't usually dead but they were all ~6 months behind the average amerifat
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>>109416701
if it's too long to make it's not fun imo
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>>109416701
based (White) waitgod
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>>109416707
comfyui isn't very comfortable so people end up getting bored or frustrated then leave for months
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>>109416667
Lmk when Chinese release a model that's not obviously slopped, has sovl and can do even half of what Flux 3 can do

https://xcancel.com/TheDarkWebDev/status/2081254756396196204#m
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>>109416726
can flux make kinos?
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>>109416715
Well, if you are part of the crowd that only makes "1girl shaking boobs" type of videos, it makes sense to want faster smaller models since there is no complexity in this
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>>109416726
>half of what Flux 3 can do
Flux 3 dev (the local model that we'll get) won't do half of what current flux 3 can do though, so the comparaison is unfair
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Unprecedented levels of back
https://xcancel.com/AI__TSUBAKI/status/2082640413815631987#m
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>>109416278
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>>109416279
>not deleted
smells like proxy use to me :]
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>>109416762
>>[Deleted]
this poor schizo can't stop taking L's kek
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>>109416698
They didn't feel the need to ban HF before K3. K3 reignited the banning talk
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>>109416758
I look like this irl
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>>109416768
>lolcow response
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>>109416762
meds
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>>109416780
ban evading is against the law
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>>109416758
I can notice that it's really good at texts, I'm gonna have some fun spamming my favorite gamer words in there!
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>>109416730
It can make more than Seedance
https://xcancel.com/YouArtStudio/status/2081541470155071979#m
https://xcancel.com/junwatu/status/2081503209596874821#m

>>109416743
We don't have the weights yet, stop FUD'ing
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>>109416786
laughing at you for getting triggered is legal and free
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>>109416758
Can it do feet?
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>>109416792
>We don't have the weights yet
and yet you pretend that Minimax has to compete against the video made by flux 3 max, which is completly false
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>>109416794
ok
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>>109416792
can it do 80s music videos?
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Insider here, given H3, BFL will publish the medium model as Dev instead of cucking local with the shittiest one.
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>>109416806
lolcow
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>>109416808
comfy's job is to cuck everyone with a fucked up implementation and forced dynamic vram
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>>109416809
if you are nice i'll let you milk me <3
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>>109416808
now that BFL knows exactly when it's gonna be released, all they can do is to wait and see the model (what parameters, what architecture... etc) to evaluate how fucked they are
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>comfy's job is to cuck everyone with a fucked up implementation and forced dynamic vram
you sound jealous that you dont have the weights now unlike him
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>>109416822
>you sound jealous
of course he's jealous, comfy is what he wanted to be, famous, succesful... everytime people talk about comfy it's like there's a mirror showing his failed life lmao
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>>109416802
well???
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>>109416829
>>109416822
Why did you reply to your own post?
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i wish i didn't delete my old kinos. they would be perfect to have right about now
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>>109416836
>well???
how should I know? look on twitter and maybe you'll be lucky
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>>109416792
Pic rel is translated from original Japanese but it tells you all you need to know about the state of China image/video gen AI. All of their released are too slopped, and the issue she's complaining about is compounded by all local models China releases.

https://xcancel.com/mxvdxn/status/2081801246474904031#m
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Is there really some paid Flux shill rummaging these threads?
What the hell lmao.
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>>109416846
lolcow
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>>109416481
Is it only for nsfw or what?
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35 star status?
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>>109416848
>https://xcancel.com/mxvdxn/status/2081801246474904031#m
it doesn't matter how many flux 3 videos you want to spam, what we'll get locally won't be at this level so...
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>>109416855
kekgoat
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>>109416848
>https://xcancel.com/mxvdxn/status/2081801246474904031#m
1:04 made me chuckle
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>>109416848
>Kuripon! This is Chinkpon!
Ok.
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>>109416863
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
interesting observation
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>>109416863
>what we'll get locally won't be at this level so...
There is zero evidence this is entirely true
The past Flux Dev releases were very similar to their API counterparts
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>>109416813
well he basically made sure only 2 people try lingbot despite the model literally being better than wan 2.2 even if slightly
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/14846
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>>109416877
>The past Flux Dev releases were very similar to their API counterparts
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>>109416881
>the model literally being better than wan 2.2
have you seen a single soul on earth saying "omg, I can't wait to try lingbot", because I don't, no one cares about that 30b model that can only do 5 seconds of video and doesn't have sound
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>>109416886
>no one cares
18 updoots on github that you see in that very image is a crap ton of people that 99.999% of PRs dont get, and most people who care dont care enough to find and upvote PRs after they log into github
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>>109416882
the anon youre replying to is retarded but you are just as bad with that reaction gif from a decade ago
kys
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>>109416900
>old = bad
I have a bridge to sell you
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>>109416900
I remember that from 2015~ raidforums shoutbox, specifically. I'm not the only one who remembered?
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>>109416897
>18 updoots on github
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Show me a single Flux 1/2 API vs Flux 1/2 Dev comparison where the API model completely BFTOs the local one, like a generational leap of difference
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>>109416914
It doesn't pro is a super marginal difference. Who knows if it will be the same for flux 3 though
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>>109416922
the history will repeat itself, when flux 2 dev got released it got clowned by z-image turbo because it was 5 times smaller while having less slopped images, it will be the same shit for Minimax vs flux 3 dev
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>>109416922
Yeah now tell that to these retarded posters >>109416882 >>109416900

If the local model we are getting were that different from the API, they would have named it "Flux 3 Klein" (small) like they did with Flux 2
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>>109416928
flux 3 is more like sora 2 though, it knows SO much more and is not RL trained where everything has that same slopped look though. It will likely be better for quick and easy action scenes and such.
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>>109416928
Nah. If Minimax can't make convincing realism then Flux 3 can sit comfortably even while being distilled anon

https://xcancel.com/junwatu/status/2080868957079441592#m

Don't forget that this is Flux 3 that is still being trained I'm showing you. Minimax just got rushed out due to BFL, their model isn't even properly polished and is in a class that puts it lower than HappyHorse 1.0. Maybe you accept low quality models, but not everyone does.
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Can AMD Gpus generate on Linux yet?
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>>109416933
lmao
https://lumenfall.ai/arena/compare/flux.2-dev/flux.2-max
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>>109416952
>Minimax just got rushed out due to BFL
proof?
> their model isn't even properly polished
proof?

bro is just typing random shit and excepts to be taken seriously
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>>109416967
?
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>>109416940
>it knows SO much more and is not RL trained where everything has that same slopped look though
This is where I think the Dev model will be different
It will likely be heavily distilled and slopped
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>>109416984
>flux 2 max
>arena score 25.7
>#10 of 64 in text to image

>flux 2 dev
>arena score 24.7
>#16 of 62 in text to image

?
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>my unreleased model is the best
>no, MY unreleased model is the best!
which side of the spergout are you on?
https://litter.catbox.moe/8uqq1l.webm
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>>109416996
there's literally a console war on unreleased consoles that's crazyyy
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>>109416994
>flux 2 dev win rate 66.7%
>flux 2 max win rate 33.3%
?
>but i can run max on my phone from my shack in bangladesh so its better!
based
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>>109416967
The very link you posted pretty much proved that there's barely any difference between the models
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>>109417004
there IS a model that is already released :^)
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>>109417010
you need to look at the image again, you seem to have vision issues
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>>109417009
>let's pretend that the arena score (the most important ELO benchmark for image models) doesn't exist
based!
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>>109416970
Here is the proof
https://xcancel.com/nouryyildiz/status/2083101176107614247#m
I wonder if this model is distilled or not. So inconsistent with its outputs and can't handle anything complex realism wise
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>>109417012
which one?
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>>109417016
Do you really want to play this game?
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>>109417016
>>109417019
i like that you picked the one image with an indian in it to show how good saas is, representation matters!
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>>109417032
nah JSID at this point this gen is cooked bruh
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>>109417026
the sad part is that flux 3 dev will be as bad :(
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>>109417026
That sort of prompt is like a toy for Flux 3 btw https://xcancel.com/fogle_ryan/status/2083053639988293789#m

To put it simply, Minimax lost. It's not even close. Even if Flux.3 is too large to run locally, these models are not the same class at all, we're comparing a Seedance 2+ tier model to a lowly Wan 2.8+/Kling tier model.
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>>109417046
>Even if Flux.3 is too large to run locally, these models are not the same class at all
well duh, a bigger model is supposed to be better, that's scaling law 101
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>>109417046
>That sort of prompt is like a toy for Flux 3 btw https://xcancel.com/fogle_ryan/status/2083053639988293789#m
Will it be a toy for flux 3 dev thoughbeitever?
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>>109417046
both models look good, they will just be used for different things.
minimax will be the gooner/meme model and flux will be the tryhard model.
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>>109417051
There's no evidence we're not getting a distillation (similar to Klein "Base"). That kind of fuzziness outside of it is very strange. Maybe China are that bad at training their models, but cmon anon... And it was intended to be an API model, why suddenly drop that and the change of heart? This is a rushed out distillation
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Even if Flux 3 Dev ends up being slopped due the distillation, if the model still has the same size as the API one, the sloppification is something that could be fine-tuned away. The real question is if people would be willing to train expensive niche loras for a 30b+ model.
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>>109417057
apparently dev IS the only model usable atm. Pro is still training at higher res
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>>109417076
>And it was intended to be an API model
proof?
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>>109417076
>Maybe China are that bad at training their models
what is this retard talking about? the best video model by far is seedance 2.0, and it's a chinese model, remember?
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>>109417046
You are incredibly deluded. Do you really think this is the same model BFL, one of the most safetymaxxed open weight companies in existence will deliver to local? Not a damn chance.
Stop kidding yourself. It's not even scaling law bs. It's "rules for thee, not for me" bs.
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Is it true that training these video models cost as much as the trillion-parameter LLMs?
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>>109417083
dev doesn't exist yet, why are you making shit up
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>>109417097
China in general isn't as good, but something is up with H3 and they're likely lying about what it is. That video fight looks suspiciously bad, like they distilled the real deal.
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>>109417102
only 480p and 720P is available atm. Higher res version is still training.
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im surprised elon musk, who is a narcissist who wants attention from the people, now has an opportunity to at least somewhat fix his image (since basically every group of people dislike him by now) by just dumping $$$ into training the best open weight models and releasing them.

hes already in the space, his models are never sota anyway, it should be easy, but instead, he doesnt even want to honor his promise of releasing old grok versions properly, lmao.
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>>109417099
desu their "safety" filters are not nearly as bad as what was done to Krea 2 and Ideogram
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>>109417097
can sneedance let me dance with my ai girlfriend though?
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kekstone will merge h3 and f3 and then finetune it on the chroma dataset to save local, trust the plan.
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>>109417115
true that, at least flux models don't have a built in safety filter
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>>109417120
vaeless pixelspace h3f3 fucking kinnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>109417120
kek, all right I trust ze plan
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>>109417111
It's an ego thing. He wants to prove himself to his billionaire friends by claiming his company is very profitable and how well accomplished he is as an entrepreneur. He probably just doesn't see releasing weights as profitable despite the goodwill it would bring, especially if he open-sourced something like Grok Imagine
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It's cool to see the ancient meme poster back to posting ancient memes
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>>109417115
>Krea 2
you just need a 3kb bypass lora.
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>>109417115
You're right, they don't train on porn. Like this is a retarded take anon, Krea 2 has clearly seen JAV in its data. Klein wouldn't have a clue and is certainly not a LoRA away from porn.
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>fanboying over models you wont be running
lol
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>>109417181
I prefer a model that doesn't know some concepts than a model that straight up refuses to follow my prompts
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>>109417189
more like
>talking about upcoming models while some saas jeet has a meltie over local diffusion
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>>109417195
>some saas jeet
you mean the one shilling flux 3 max (API only)?
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>>109417201
i think i mean you
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>>109417190
So you prefer a model that both doesn't have internal representation of what you want and also refuses to follow it?
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>>109417222
>and also refuses to follow it
flux 2 refuses nothing, you just get random shit when it doesn't know the concept
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you can get nudity past the api filter if its super short. So yea, H3 can do nudity.
https://litter.catbox.moe/t5j509s3lb0vnuyt.mp4
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>>109417195
sneedance shill loves coming back to bait us so he can watch our kinos
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>>109417211
>i think
you thought wrong, Flux 3 max shill saas jeet
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>>109417229
>H3 can do nudity.
I think the debate is over then, you know damn well Flux 3 doesn't know how to do nudity, Minimax wins
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>>109417234
actually flex 2 dev could do decent nudity. If its just continually trained then it prob can do topless just the same.
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>>109417234
>>H3 can do nudity.
does hila approve of that?
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>>109417242
>flex
flux
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>>109417229
pretty impressive ngl
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>>109417224
Define "refusal". I could prompt Krea 2 for pussy and get random shit, then just adjust some nodes, or add a LoRA or just plain img2img from an uncensored model and get what I want. It's like Krea and I communicate in different languages, and that's okay. Not knowing is a worse offense, it leads to body horror and bad anatomy.
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>>109417229
>hentai is solved
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>>109417234
i could see them going the krea route where it's trained properly and they they just stick a little bitch filter on it.
actual censorship and fucking up the training to avoid concepts seems too destructive on newer models.
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>>109417251
>Not knowing is a worse offense
training a model to make portraits when the prompt doesn't ask for confuses the model, that's a pretty bad offense to mindfuck the model if you ask me
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>>109417229
The fact that a Sora 2 level model is going to be local already is crazy to me.
Like, LTX doesn't even come close to this. Even if you try to generate the keyframes and use guides... it just falls apart.
Tbh, I think the move might be to use both Flux 3 and H3 together in a workflow to get the best of both worlds.
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but can H3 do rimjob?
https://litter.catbox.moe/pqyx20rta9ht6tto.mp4
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>>109417261
But at least I can have a peace of mind that if I teach the model to understand, it'll be good and won't mistake a vagina for a penis or some monstrosity.
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>>109417263
>Sora 2 level model
I'm convinced it's a distillation though. >>109417026
Is a far-cry from Sora 2 level, and its outputs are inconsistent so far. They released it suddenly even though they had never released a model before, so all evidence points to a distillation they're not disclosing.
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can flux 3 or minimax let me dance with reference characters?
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>>109417305
according to comfy, the local model he got is the same as the API model >>109416387
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>>109417316
Ah yes, Comfy wouldn't lie for them. Actually, I haven't seen much evidence that the API model is not a distillation, which is precisely what we're getting too. They will "upgrade" their weights on an API only version akin to Pro or Max later that will be the real weights. Local is getting played.
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>>109417328
>Local is getting played.
I hope you're wrong anon, that's all I'm gonna say.
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>>109417305
Yes acktually anon, we get it. It's not "Sora 2 level", but it's surprising how close it is to it considering how gatekept models like these are.
Also what this guy said >>109417316
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>>109417337
he is
>t. knower
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>>109417328
how come people like you only have meltdowns over models like krea, flux and minimax? where was the outrage over ernie and lingbot?
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>>109417339
this, the quality is really good, and compared to what we had before the jump is so big it's like I'm getting the jump from SDXL to Flux.1 all over again, let's just hope this isn't some big and slow motherfucker and we'll be saved
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>>109417337
Inconsistent slow-mo video, but some are action-packed. Flawless high resolution video clips, then videos that looked slopped and suffer the same issues as LightX2V with the fuzziness. That, paired with the fact the model comes at a time everyone speculated their model was going to be closed

https://xcancel.com/cocktailpeanut/status/2082884915129938143

Just tells me they were sitting on an API model that they deemed about on par or slightly worse than Flux.3 and Seedance 2, but instead of releasing as-is they decided to go the local route with a distilled model as they realized what BFL are doing is free publicity, and because of Chinese culture they wouldn't have to disclose anything.
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>>109417376
we'll see in 2 days, they can't really hide that, if it's a distilled turbo model we'll know it when we'll get our hands on the model
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what's the first thing you will prompt when you get your hands on either of those models?
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>>109417376
saas is gay and the market for stable diffusion isn't large enough to justify fully closed models.
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>>109417389
But it's possible for them to undo the distillation and act like they never did it in the first place. The output tells a larger picture than what it looks like on the surface. How would one explain this output
>>109417026

Doesn't look anything like training data, and model can handle complex motion
https://xcancel.com/nikola_mr64990/status/2083055862755844254#m
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I don't know why there's three generals for the same thing
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>>109417468
It's called diversification. Diversify your portfolio to avoid total bankruptcy.
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>>109417505
How does a general go bankrupt
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>>109417525
ask /sdg/
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will the h3 release postpone flux 3? i think bfl were planning on lobotomizing the model before giving it to us, so maybe its a good thing they're getting mogged by china
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>>109417393
If it ends up worth checking out probably something car or Bond movie related.
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Watermerry!
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>>109417563
*smacks lips*
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>>109417553
do a police dashcam cam view of a high speed pit maneuver which causes the target to spin off the road and explode
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>>109417525
If a schizo with enough free time sets their sights on it, it can quickly lose all value
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yeeeeep big news for the unemployed: the prompt for first person jet fighter views has been discovered
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>>109417229
Black Forest Labs Flux 3 Dev bros... not like this...
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yup, its over, flux 3 dev is kill
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1vblucx/minimax_h3_can_do_motion_control_like_kling/
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>>109417276
it autoexpands
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>>109416481
It's good
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>>109417678
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>>109417676
>MiniMax H3 can do motion control like Kling
oh shes controling my motion alright
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OH N-
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Post Seedance 2.5 videos.
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>>109417229
>an exclusively weeb model is censored
???
now this is peak cuckening
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Flux, Minimax, Seedance, Omni... Who is the undisputed king right now?
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wan 2.2
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What ever happened to Kling?
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>>109417843
deprecated
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>>109417865
Might wanna take the safety off.
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i unironically leaped out of my chair and screamed kino
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>>109417865
Pixel guns won’t be enough.
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what are yo guys favorite models?
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>>109418032
Klein. Its better than ZIT and Krea 2
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Clarification: I’d let her shoot me, but a pixel gun won’t do the job.
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>>109418190
good stuff
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Klein is better than any of the non video models. Fight me.
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>>109418248
>>109418192
thank you
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>>109418269
Likeness should be there, trained against huge reg dataset
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>>109417788
kawaii
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>>109416283
Why did you make peach brown
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>>109418430
what model?
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>>109418434
Krea 2
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>>109418323
>welcoming polak immigrants.jpg
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>>109418548
>>109418548
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>>109418428
Looks like her
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>>109418428
>>109418355
I like her a lot.
>>109418430
Hmm I don't remember mentioning that anywhere.
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>>109417207
cool gen.
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>>109417823
Flux 3 imo, which is why it genuinely pains me that we're getting Dev, which is guaranteed to suck ass, over of whatever the previews are using. It's the closest we've gotten to Sora2 sovl and having it locally would've been insane.
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>>109417954
very cool



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