>provides consumers with the right to request that manufacturers repair products that are technically repairable under EU law.>the repair must be done within a reasonable time and at a reasonable price>requires manufacturers to provide access to spare parts at a reasonable price>applies to household and electronic products such as washing machines, vacuum cleaners, mobile phones, tablets and so onLet's all thank the based EU for another consumer rights win!
>>109419867Let's not forget that next year, a separate battery directive that will give us replaceable batteries and access to them comes into effect>portable batteries in appliances, smartphones, and tablets must be readily removable and replaceable by the end-user using basic, commercially available tools without damaging the device>replacement batteries must remain available on the market at a reasonable price for at least 5 years after a product model ceases productionThank you based EU!
Didn't Apple get an exemption or smn?
>>109420039All waterproof devices ;)
>>109419867Meanwhile...
how dare you repair your stuff instead of buying a brand new one from an American companymore tariffs for you!
>>109420058AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>109419867so how are the manufacturers getting around itThey know that brussels are clueless boomers, they don't have to try too hard to bamboozle them with jargon of how it ain't possible
>>109420322>>109420058>>109420039
>>109419867>Right to repair in effect in the EU>nothing changes
>>109420058>All waterproof devices ;)WRONG. Only devices that are waterproof and whose primary function or primary area of use require waterproofing.Smartphones do not fit that bill and are not exempt. Apple has nothing and can go fuck themselves.
>>109419905I don't think I have had any devices where the battery has gotten so bad it needs a replacement.Like by the time the battery is starting to get noticeably worse, I'm already looking for a replacement because it's like 10 years fucking old and falling apart.
>>109420466The EU is a continental fantasy world.
>>109420861>primary area of use require waterproofing.>torrential rain caused by the le climate changes, sorry ;)
>>109420984More like a particularly badly written young adult novel even by young adult novel standards.
>>109419867They should have added mandatory unlockable bootloader, and make closed source drivers illegal.
Okay so which Nintend or Apple product is becoming unavailable in the EU this time around
>>109419905You forgot to read the fine print>except if the device is waterproof>except if the device's battery lasts more than 500 cycles
>>109421145>They should have added mandatory unlockable bootloaderEU is actually against that. https://news.ssbcrack.com/samsung-locks-bootloader-on-galaxy-phones-in-europe-due-to-new-eu-law/
>>109421198Nintendo is bending the knee. They all will, eventually
>>109419867there will be so many exceptions that it has no impact
>>109419867we need schematic and access to all the proprietary ICs. Otherwise it will always be fucked
>>109421300>The company says there is no difference>The company admits they were scaming you all alongOh, who knew?
>>109421300They make no difference, the switch 2 is garbage and the switch 1 is no longer sold in Europe
>>109421300extendable batteries on the market again, it weighs twice as much but lasts 4x as longgod damn I've missed not having to charge my phone every night
>>109421300
>>109420068Why are you pretending like the US and Israel don't have the largest number of backdoors and active espionage and private/secret data collection agencies in the world? Did you forget about the Snowden leaks?Honestly I'd rather have the Chinese and EU model where the government tells you "we spy on you here", instead of the US model where you're being lied to that you're "free" when in reality you're in an even worse and shittier cage.
>>109421241>lasts more than 500 cyclesIt was 1000 cycles last year, now even dodgy $100 phone with combustible battery pass the criteria.
>>109419867Alright, time to buy a new $1,200 fridge, $500 dishwasher, and $1,300 washer and dryer that I may get around to repairing myself if they break.
>>109419867How many people would actually attempt to repair their own phones and appliances?
>>109422607You wouldn't change a battery in your car if it died?
Who actually repairs electronics in Europe? Ahmed from Algeria or some guy from Eastern Europe?
>>109419867with how high wages are most repairs simply won't be worth it, and still places the burden on the consumer. the true solution would've been to force longer warranty periods, there is no reason a washing machine or an gpu and so on shouldn't have 10 years warantee.
>>109421241kek all these loopholes that big corpa can use while little guys get fucked. Pretending to have the moral highground while stifling everything, sums up EU perfectly.
>>109420322Theres water resistant 67+ something where if a phone can survive 500 charge cycles at 80% battery capacity they are allowed to be exempt.
>>109422740I've done it plenty of times, it's the fact there are so many people who don't know how to do basics while mechanics, NAPA, PepBoys, and even Walmart have their own services for battery replacements.
>>109423137I've replace a water line, ice maker, and a control board on my 10+ year old fridge. I think the parts cost less than $200, the control board was $130 or so.
>>109419867If there isn't a provision that prohibits OSes/vendors from exposing bootloader un/locked status to apps, then this whole thing would be close to useless.>we respect your right to repair>we require all apps that want our app store platinum security status to use the immediately-shutdown-if-bootloader-unlocked feature from our "services" proprietary library which we also require apps to use
Another EU shilling thread.>>109419867>[literally the same shit about repair that existed before]WOW nothing changed!>>109419905>Let's not forget that next year, a separate battery directive that will give us replaceable batteries and access to them comes into effectI can not wait for you to cope next year how the over 5 different escape clauses in that bill will change nothing. Like:>If the phone is water proof then you do not need to give the ability to remove the batteryYou EU shills are insufferable>USANo fagot I live in this shithole of a EU And are tortured with their retardation daily!>These bottle caps>Paper straws
>>109426186>These bottle caps>Paper strawsThe humanity!
>>109426243Lets see>Daily torture. of this shit in my daily life.VS>We are getting replaceable batteries any day now I promise! Why are pro EU shill always from the USA?
>>109421145>They should have added mandatory unlockable bootloader, and make closed source drivers illegal.This one speaks the truth.The fact is that EU is a shithole and throws you literally meaningless regulation that only USA fagots get excited for.>Oh we made USB-C mandatory praise me>Ignores them mandating and torturing us with micro USB for yearsLiterally no one asked for this and it is the most retarded shit ever, ignoring the fact the USB! IS NOT! A FUCKING! CHARGING CABLE! You colossal fagots! It was made for computer components to plug into a PC and the power given from it was to give enough power so that the keyboard can function! Because sending data over the same cable you send electricity over is a terrible idea! And now with USB-C you literally need to buy special measuring devices to test what type of cable you have. Perfect retardation! And we only get promises of these user replaceable batteries.I believe it when I see it! And everything tells me that we will never see it because of the>Muh water proofescape clause.
>>109420068What gets me is that far right anti EU parties like the AfD are pro surveillance state EU and vote accordingly.>>109422376Different approaches. The EU wants to get access to your data by lawful access (making new laws that simply grant them access). USA doesn't do this as much, instead they built the infrastructure to spy on anyone and find ways to get your data by backdooring and MITM'ing fucking everything.>>109426186Oh my god paper straws and bottle caps. We're all going to fucking die.
>>109426404>And now with USB-C you literally need to buy special measuring devices to test what type of cable you have. Perfect retardation!The industry was going USB-C anyway, except Apple.Do you think the EU wrote the USB specification, you fucking retard.
>>109419867The only that worries me a little bit is if manufacturers like, say, vivo, who make the best cameraphones, just decide to drop out of the EU market entirely and I am simply left without the best tech. And it's not like you can repair a smartphone properly anyway -- they're simply not designed with repair in mind.Just a little concerned; don't wanna fall behind in technology. As a European I am well aware of what having superior technology vs. faraway peoples can turn out like.
>>109420068The EU is a bittersweet thing.On the one hand, it completely fucks US big tech raw.On the other hand, it completely fucks europeans raw.
>>109426186I'll never understand the bottle cap thing.
>>109426243>yes I am raped how could you tell?
>>109428443Micro optimizing environmentalist protection laws. It's basically an own-goal, because it's such a great meme on how the EU is retarded.If you look at it objectively, you'd agree that laws to protect the environment are necessary and good (because you don't want the megacorps to give you cancer and get away with it). If you don't agree with the latter, just think about the jews.
I'll just wait for the Americans to come in and argue that cars should be scrapped after a few years it's unreasonable to expect that parts could be replaced.
>>109428654Don't get me wrong, I know what it's for. What I don't get is the seething and kvetching since it's such a nothingburger.
>>109422888I WON'T BUY A NEW PHONE FOR 10 YEARS
>>109429826It's all down to symbolism, including the reaction against it. Political theater across a broad political spectrum.
>>109429834sop ruining the economy https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/23/how-device-hoarding-by-americans-is-costing-economy.html
>>109419867Yet you fucking niggers tax and block Chinese cheap websites like aliexpress.WHERE DO YOU THINK DO I GET THE LED STRIP FROM TO REPAIR A TV YOU FUCKING NIGGERS?ALL THE PARTS YOU NEED FOR REPAIRS ARE ONLY SOLD BY THE VERY PLATFORMS YOU SANCTION!>hurr goy, you should have a right to repair, but the repair should cost too much to be worth itFUCK YOU
>>109429991We can't depend on China though, have you tried paying 20x as much for a local store to import those same Chinese parts for you? You'll support the economy this way.
>>109426186>These bottle capsnigger just rip off the lids if you don't like it, how weak are you that you can't break a 2mm thin plastic connection.There's so much horrible shit the EU does like chat control, mandating surveillance cameras inside of cars, making it illegal to call out holocaust propaganda lies... yet you fuckers choose to have melties over the dumbest nothingburgers
>>109427705>instead they built the infrastructure to spy on anyone and find ways to get your data by backdooring and MITM'ing fucking everythingWhen they handed out rigged backdoored smartphones to criminals (AN0M), they had to outsource the data grabbing to countries where mass-surveillance like this is allowed.And you know what was the country?Lithuania. An EU country.Turns out that even the five eyes countries have too strict privacy laws, so feds can't do that... only the EU allows the spying on their citizen in such an extensive way.
>>109430031>one of the really new EU member states that have no real civil rights history and just tried to escape from soviet russiaShow source and I doubt that is still the case today. Reminder that EU is not a state.
>>109430031Lithuania is an irredeemable shithole so I'm not surprised
>>109429991>nooooooooo you've to let the chinks claim to still be a developing nation and abuse UPU agreements because I love to subsidize their cheap international shipping rates!
>>109430239Yeah, but funny is it's fucking the EU guy want to repair his craps and be more green-ish than its fucking the Chinas lol
>>109429970I miss when these types of articles would only be found on the Onion
>>109430239So why not work to strip the shipping protections China "abuses" instead of taxing your own citizens?
>>109430403You've to push it through a UN body so have fun with that. Especially since China holds considerably sway over the global south (developing/emerging nations) that makes up the bulk of the 192 members.
>>109429970>in the short runwhat the fuck am I reading
>>109419905>>replacement batteries must remain available on the market at a reasonable price for at least 5 years after a product model ceases productionso we only have a guarantee that battery replacement is available while the original battery is still new ..
>>109430025its satire isn't it?
>>109427708>The industry was going USB-C anyway, except AppleExactly!>Do you think the EU wrote the USB specificationThey mandated USB-C instead of you know a sane standard.>Do you think the EU wrote the USB specificationWhy did they not write it? >The industry was going USB-C anyway, except AppleMaking this a non issue.>b-b-b-b- my iPhone chargingStop buying apple shit problem solved!
>>109427705>Oh my god paper straws and bottle caps. We're all going to fucking die.Keep posting like this pro-EU USA mutt and see what happns!>Wow I can not believe you are upset over the EU mandating that you get slapped in the face (by a certified goverment official) for every water bottle you buy. Like get over it!This is the daily torture we get.
>>109432231The bottle caps are legit kinda good actually
>>109431981Seems reasonable. If you buy a new battery after 5 years, then that means the original already lasted that long so you've got at least 10 years out of your device. But more than that, what's actually more important is that the batteries are replaceable in the first place, even if the original company stops making them somebody else can make aftermarket batteries instead.I have a PDA from 20 years ago. It has a replaceable battery, but obviously the original manufacturer has long since moved on from this type of product entirely. Despite that I can still buy a new battery for the thing right now, they are available. This is what's most important I think.
>>109428654>If you look at it objectively, you'd agree that laws to protect the environment are necessary and goodNo no one who is right in the head wants this since protecting the environment literally translates to worrying over non toxic plastics while being happy that another recycling center opens who will dump millions of kilograms of heavy metals into the water supply from all the "recycling" they will do of the e-wast.If this shit was sane on any level the EU mandate that wireless headphones and earbuds are ILLEGAL and mandate mandatory headphone jacks. However instead we get plastic straws and bottle cap shit to protect retarded turtles [I post the shit India throws into the ocean] while everything getting killed from heavy metals from e-wast recycling centers is OK because they are le recycling centers! However it is meme torturing of everyone with bottle caps and giving a OK to literally the most consumeroid money sink TOXIN spreading idea of wireless ear buds! Gota be max that apple retard look while you literally poison everything and funnel more money to mega corporations by using these toxic made to degrade shits!
>>109430025>mandating surveillance cameras inside of carsThe what now?Redpill me on this!
>>109430386>the OnionThere is the irony in the fact that the onion branded itself as the most trusty news source... And the irony is that they only where a couple decades behind reality.
>>109431819Basically the economy does not exist.It is a nonsense word people in power use to convince you of sometihng>Don't do that it will make the economy angry! Or it translates to not funneling more of your money into the wallets of the super rich.
>>109432285NO they are not prove how they are.>Muh retarded turtlesNatural selection bitch. Evolution!
>opens EU thread>it's just a bunch of Americans seething and copingWhen will they understand that their is now just a bunch of trannies and nazi wannabees?
>>109432285Some seem to think so. I've heard people say that it's convenient that the caps can't get lost accidentally. These were real people I know, not internet bot schizos.
>>109419867It's worded so vaguely and contains so many exemptions that in effect, nothing will change.>>109419905Not required if:>the device is "intended to be used in wet environments">the manufacturer can prove the battery retains more than 83% capacity after 200 charge cyclesSo basically, all phones will be waterproof and have an expected lifespan of 200 charge cycles and they'll still be glued shut.This will change exactly fuck all.
>>109421261dont remember the details and not gonna look it up, but thats absolute bullshit and samsung is using an unrelated thing as a scapegoat
>>109426186reminder that those bottle caps were designed by an ameriacan
>>109419867NGL The EU is consistenly based and probably the most actual freedom and individual right protecting place to be. That used be the US. Strange days.
>>109433120Reminder those bottlecaps were claimed to be inveted by an American and patented by him in America, where Americas also proved they invented air water light mobile telephony, mobile data, the digital computer etc etc etc The trade treaty said so.
>>109433164it's not THAT consistently based with chat control (times and again) or also not even trying to vote on stop killing gamesbut it has made some useful decisions that will help the entire world like this or to forcibly standardize devices that can be standardized with usb-c, yes
>>109433164Every single consumer rights "win" in the EU hasn't done shit except make things more expensive.>>109433185Mandating USB-C on EVERYTHING was a fucking disaster, see >>109426404All of this is just a play to polish up their image after they forced through chat control because the whole thing is inherently undemocratic.
>>109433216>Mandating USB-C on EVERYTHING was a fucking disaster, see >>109426404i have no clue what this refers to. "special measuring devices"?isn't the only issue that you need to pay attention if you want the *very fastest* charging possible? if you just have a decent charger and a decent cable pretty much everything is covered ok tho.
>>109428180it's endgame bureaucracy they inserted themselves in every aspect and every transaction
>>109419867>>the repair must be done within a reasonable time and at a reasonable priceWhat is "reasonable" in this case and are companies allowed to make repairs so complicated that you need to be a rocket engineer to do them?
>>109419867Is it actually worth waiting with a phone purchase till that'll be implemented next year or grabbing still cheap pre-ram-apocalypse is better?
>>109419867That's cool. Too bad they're also pushing chat monitoring and internet ID bullshit, so I can't actually called them based.
>>109420089>Talking about Europe>Random Chinese poster immediately starts burger bashingFuckin retard
>>109432328https://www.thedrive.com/news/in-car-cameras-are-now-required-in-europe-us-isnt-far-behind
>>109426186Company that owns the patent for those bottle caps does not have working website.
>>109419867This triggers the americuck.
>>109421198This will n e v e r happen. Companies will adhere to regulations always because they want market share.
>>109439701That's why they literally discontinued the Switch 1 in Europe and not everywhere else in the world. There are also a bunch of Apple software features which are not available in the EU because of retarded regulations.Hell, there are phone manufacturers which give people a fast charger for free with your phone, but eurocucks have to buy them separately and that's a good thing :^)
>>109439819>Discontinuing a 10 year old first generation console next yearIs this really your best argument?See >>109421300Nintendo chose to not revamp an obsolete console but that doesn't mean they stopped wanting the EU market
>>109419867My phone's screen broke last year here in the EU and I got it repaired though? what changed
>>109439906>gets called out for lying>i-is this r-r-really your b-best argument?
>>109440423>No more nintendo in Europe>Reality: discontinuing a 10 year old first generation console next year and revamping the newer one for EuropeYou are the liar who got called out anon
>>109427902living in a feminal totalitarian continent, not having the newest phone is the only thing that worries you.
>>109427902>corpo leaving a 500+million people market No.
>>109432219>>109433216You retarded zoomers weren't alive when literally every single device came with their own charger. There's a reason EU had to step in and force the manufacturer's hand. They also forced them to figure out a common fast charging scheme instead of everyone cooking up their own that only works with their charger. So now literally every USB-PD charger will work with any device you have. Your phone needs some juice and all you've got is your laptop charger? Well no worry as it works as your phone charger also. And any standard USB-C cable will give you up to 60 watts. If you have a charger that can provide more you need to buy literally one cable, that most likely comes with the charger, and just keep that cable with the charger.
>>109439819Why would I want to buy a charger that I will never use with all my electronics purchases when I can use the same charger I already have with everything? The charger they "give" you isn't free.
>>109423344A lot of modern cars will get fucked if you just disconnect the battery and add in a new one. Many of them are also in places that need tools to access. So yes, it's a lot easier to let the shop where you bought the battery from to replace it for you.
>>109420322Apple tried with usb c, got fucked and bent the knee.
>>109422607It means you can bring it to a random mall tech and they can actually get parts and do the repairs easily. It's not necessarily about doing it yourself, it's about being able to do it at all.
>>109432328It's coming to the US also. Retards are too dumb to not use their phone while driving so lawmakers had to step in and mandate surveillance systems to stop these retards from killing themselves and most importantly others. If we could just treat driving like the privilege it is none of these nanny systems would be required because half the population wouldn't have a driving license. The alertness surveillance is coming so some dumb bitch doesn't t-bone your ass or worse accidentally hit you head on while they're scrolling through tiktok. If you're not a retard it doesn't have any effect of your driving.
>>109445173Good luck charging your 8500mAh phone with a shitty 5W charger, retard. The official charger can do 100W.There are so many people using weak charger and then act surprised their device charges slow it's insane.The charger they give you is literally free. In fact, the phone is cheaper anywhere else in the world is cheaper than in the EU AND it comes with a charger. They just remove the charger for EU cucks. So the EU just made a bunch of profits for corporations and made things more expensive and inconvenient for people, as usual.
>>109445764But I have 1 charger with multiple ports and 200 W total output. Why would I want to pay for a new charger with every single electronics purchase? The reason the phone and charger are cheaper elsewhere is not because the EU version doesn't have a charger. But because EU has relatively high VAT compared to the rest of the world. Not a single company will give you a charger for free. Thanks to the EU everyone is forced to make their devices work with USB-PD so every USB charger just works with every device. Complaining about this just exposes you as an underaged retard. Everyone else remembers what it was like dealing with every single device having a different charger.
>>109446089Why don't you miss this, anon?
Hmm, what about right to not be killed in war
>>109446134>motorola>just regular old mini/micro usb
>>109446178Just downloaded it for illustrative purposes from what I assume is the indian equivalent of alibaba.
>>109446134I still have one of these in my car, tho it's just usb-c, micro usb, and the apple one whatever the fuck it's called.
>>109446134the Nokia ones were peak
>>109419867>Right to repaircool story, bronow, name the product you claim can be repaired, or consumer rights, or whatever
So when is he moving to the EU?
>>109449003He knows the EU is a complete jokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRqqihy7l10
