Xlibre is psyops to tarnish the name of x11, to discourage any genuine efforts at keeping it maintained and workable, and to convince people that there is no other choice but Wayland

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xlibre

the answer has always been and will always be
install gentoo

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>>109420176
>>off to a bad start
Unforgettable indeed
>>109420234
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xlibre
>3 red fat warnings
The shill squad has arrived

>>109420217
>Xlibre is psyops to tarnish the name of x11
this anon gets it

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i don't get it and haven't been paying attention to anything i just haven't moved to wayland yet because i haven't found a wm i like yet xlibre works just fine on my machine

Perhaps it had never been about either Xorg or XLibre:
https://www.freelists.org/post/xlibre/Announce-initial-release-of-starfleetctl-LLM-agent-command-control-toolkit

>>109420176
>>all mainstream distros ignore me
You forgot to mention that:
>ubuntu employee said that they wouldn't support it because muh dev is a fascist
>name of that employee is jeremy bicha
>jeremy bicha is a registered sex offender who raped and tortured his little sisters thousands of times
>canonical was contacted because he was making a decision on behalf of canonical saying that they wont add xlibre when he doesn't have the power to make that decision
>he got fired for being a pedophile rapist
>freedesktop and gnome still accepts him but bans people (vaxxry, dev of hyprland) for once having a mod on his discord server that renamed a trannies username from she/her to who/cares, preventing the hyprland dev from participating in wayland development

>>109420616
>ubuntu employee
>registered sex offender
checks out, but how's that unshittifying your shitty product?

>>109420176
Das rite

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>>109420616

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>>109420176
>xlibre
Use case?

>>109420302
Did you read said warnings or did you see red and freaked out crying in a fetal position?

Yeah I ain't switchin to gayland but I ain't usin this shit either. Updooters need to calm the fuck down, don't fix what ain't broke.

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>>109421591
>read said warnings
I did actually, here's your tl;dr: you're on your own if you use this shit

>>109421766
No it just says that if you use nvidia you’re fucked.

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>>109421772
when did "here be dragons" stop meaning "danger, beta as fuck"?

>>109420176
genuinely what is the usecase when X11 just werks

>>109421893
Keep crying. I don’t care what you do. Gentoo has it.

>>109421939
glad for you anon, please keep it there and don't let it escape

>>109421939
What about other distros? Debian or derivatives specifically as I'm on Mint.

>>109420302
Wow this is fucking cringe.

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>>109421565
>Use case?
i'm fine with Xorg

>>109420176
>I sabotaged you and you failed, aren't I cool?
who writes this shit?

>>109420990
That's what his sisters did yeah

>>109421935
XLibre is X + tons of modernization. Fantastic for Intel and AMD cards. Only bad for NVidia cards if you use ancient shit. Basically nothing newer than the 980ti.

If it supports Vulkan, then it gets support. Effectively.

>>109420616
Hyprland is based btw
If you don't need X then Hyprland is the best alternative.

>>109422987
>you have to use xlibre because even pedos won't
>>109423000
>tons of modernization
name one that actually matters
>Fantastic for Intel and AMD cards
kek no https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues
if your shit is so good why no distro uses it?

>>109423000
>Fantastic for Intel and AMD cards
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20amdgpu
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20intel
I totally believe you.

I can't understand why all this bad attitude XLibre, yes, it's very immature and apparently suffering from child diseases, its core developer the exponent operator is ^ and force pushes his git tree, a couple others are annoying assholes and even its logo sucks like a hoover... but other than that it's fantastic!

It's the default display server in King Lunduke's OS though.

>>109420176
Um, sweaty, why would I want to use a display server Hitler himself would have approved of? That gives me the ick.

>>109423362
Is really Lunduke their last best hope for some adoption? Because if it is, I may have bad news: their future looks grim.

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>>109423000
>Fantastic for Intel and AMD
sure

>>109423432
No, it's still Artix. In spite of the xlibre pr guy being an antagonising idiot, the Artix maintainers aren't dropping support for xlibre.

>>109420217
But brother anon, there IS no other choice but Wayland!

>>109420234
>Xlibre is not available in the main Gentoo repository. It can be obtained from an unofficial overlay operated by the Xlibre developers:
Lol.
Lmao, even.

>>109423604
You mean that tango nigger? Good luck, Artix devs seem very pissed at his baboonish attitude.

>>109426291
qrd?

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Imagine X11 as a soldier in world war II that bravely fought resisted and destroyed nazis and helped put an end to Hitler's empire. Now, Imagine Wayland as a 21st century Gen Z Magical girl who holds strict anti fascist values and maybe a lesbian and or possibly a furry who flourishes with her magical girl friends on the federated domains of Mastodon. The point is both did their part to fight fascism and agree Bryan Lunduke is the spawn of satan, but that aside X11 is really old and needs to retire in glory after a long legacy of kicking nazi ass. Xlibre is best thought of as a underground nazi tech experiment that cloned the DNA of x11 without his knowing to create an evil doppelganger of him. xlibre is the imposter villain that threatens the sanctity of the FOSS community and degenerates x11's legacy. Red Hat employees, Arch Wiki staff and of course the beloved magical girls made sure to banish every trace of xlibre citing the nazi bar rule. No tolerance for intolerance.

>>109428213
anti-fascist values like assisting the jews in the creation of blackmailable moral minorities to be exploited in their host countried to plunge them into degeneracy under the guise of equity and fairness, none of which is actually believed in because they are really just nihilistic hedonists who follow the path of least resistance to dopamine, forming a pathology of self-destruction which masquerades as political ideology? What are they fighting, exactly? I've never seen one who can physically fight.

>>109427614
Xlibre did exactly what it said it wouldn't, DEI entitlement. I doubt tango acts on his own, he's just a lap dog doing his master's bidding. You know, if not with us then against us kind of thing.
>>109428213
>wayland
>lesbian antifa
If you're trying to sell us wayland you're doing it in so wrong a way we'd just as soon use nazi xlibre or trad text console ffs. I know you're a proud cocksucker, but you should really reflect on what kind of virtue is shoving dicks up your ass, you fucking antifa troon. Happy 42%.

>>109428213
Killing nazis because you were drafted against your will by the global military industrial complex's intrigues isn't what anti-fascism is.

>>109428213
X11 antinazi? Rather the embodiment of the Aryan ideal. Cope, seethe and dilate, I can send you a nice piece of rope, free of change.

>>109428337
>embodiment of the Aryan ideal
unlike xlibre, pity

Does anyone have an actual problem with xlibre that isn't just the sound of them struggling to spit out an ad-hominem because of the cock in their mouth?

>>109420176
>artix immediately regrets
>within the month both amd and intel drivers break, users start complaining, switches back to xorg
>caught using ai by a chimera linux dev, oh shit, delete his github issue and rewrite commit history
any source on these? sounds funny lol
last time I tried it it was segfaulting on boot and I had to rollback, so fuck it I believe it

>>109428480
Never had a single issue w/ xlibre on arch. Been running it for a year.

>>109428480
Every "problem" with xlibre is something blow out of proportion by a bunch of drug addicted attention whore homosexuals and trannies who think they're anti-fascist nazi-fighters, even though they suck fascist corpo jewish cock 99% of the time.

>>109428593
you sound quite mentally stable

>>109428480
See
>>109428213
where
>"Imagine my retarded gay fantasy that I project onto things. That's what's real even though it's imaginary."
Nothing goes through these people's heads where they think
>"oh! That shit's retarded."
because that would be ableist or something. They think reasoning is just whatever tickles the clitoris of intersectionality.

>>109428213
me on the left (i like men though)

>>109428593
See >>109428356

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>>109428670

LMAO WELL WHO WOULD AHVE THOUHHT IT. Fucking morons.

>he's replying to himself now

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>>109428692
meds

>>109428356
My intel igpu laptop crashed lightdm after an update, worked fine with xorg. Sorry to burst your bubble Enrico, I really liked it while it lasted.

>>109428653
Back to plebbit you flaming faggot

>>109428769
How does that prove that xlibre is bad? Just because it had an issue with your particular hardware configuration that one time doesn't mean it's a bad or failing project.

>>109428356
Used to have a problem, solved it with xf86-video-amdgpu and xorg-server. I like women with big boobs and tight buttocks.

>>109428811
When did the problem occur? Does the problem still exist?

>>109428805
Well, never had such an issue with Xorg since I got that laptop 9 years ago. To get bit within a month of switching to Xlibre is surely a coincidence? Are we denying reality here?

>>109428836
Xorg is unmaintained and has issues that the devs refuse to fix.

So they're still crying about politics instead of doing anything or updooting

This is why I don't use loonix, what a dumpster fire

>>109428834
Early 2026, kept testing xlibre-amdgpu for months without success till I got so disappointed that I stopped trying. Now on Xorg and not a glitch. Appreciate the concern but it's too late, this customer has walked out.
I'm also puzzled with OP's story, if half of it is true then you should seriously change course or end up alone in the dark.

>>109428847
Worked for me where xlibre crashed you fucking moron, buzz off

>>109428887
>"I'll keep using the literally deprecated pile of trash forever instead of submitting a bug report an have emotions about it as if the problem was bad customer service at a restaurant instead of a bug that needs to be reported and fixed in a piece of free software."

>>109428895
>"I'll just ignore all of the glaring holes and problems because I can't see them when I run my DE."

>>109428909
Yes, because xorg deprecated or not it works, unlike your shitty fork, which is literally the same pile of trash tweaked to crash.

>>109428887
The following would make sense, but it's not what I read in your post.
>Xlibre crashed so I submitted a bug report and went back to xorg, and then xlibre never fixed it.
That would be a totally reasonable complaint.

>>109428945
This is an all or nothing fallacy.

>>109428919
At least I can run my DE there, kek
This nigger is unbelievable! Are you tango by any chance?
I'm off to the artix forum for screenshots, perhaps I'll visit telegram too - don't leave, we're having a party!

>>109428975
I've never had a problem with xlibre on my hardware. If I did, I could submit a bug report, and expect that it would be fixed.

>>109428974
>>109428919
>>109428909
>use xlibre please
>it crashes tho
>submit a bug report!
>i'm fine with xorg tho
>no, you're not!
>stop crying thi
>USE XLIBRE SAAR!

>>109429017
tango confirmed, the party's on!

>>109429045
>if your open source software crashes you should submit a bug report
>NO! I'M AN ANTISOCIAL FAGGOT COMPLAINING ABOUT EXPERIENCES I'VE NEVER HAD ON THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO SMEAR THINGS I DON'T LIKE!
>>109429055
You're a delusional retard. Confirmed.

>>109420302
One thing that makes me leery of this fork is that they use a miga slogan

>>109429045
This happens every thread btw lmao
There's a reason most of the maintainers are banned everywhere else

>>109429075
you remind me of my ex, she wouldn't accept no for an answer

>>109429113
>He's using common sense, he HAS to be an Xlibre maintainer!
You people are literally skullfucked retards.

>>109429122
Oh look, another retarded fantasy instead of a reasonable statement.

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>>109429055
>>109428975
>>109429134
>>109429146
Scorched but indomitable this tango, xir perseverance will change the world.

Xlibre actually implemented a bunch of cool things and I was looking forward to more developments and potentially switching my devices to it (I otherwise use xorg because wayland is still a broken piece of garbage to this very day, literally unusable while xorg just werkz as it has for the past 23 years, i.e. wayland's entire existence).
I don't care about the leftards who took over all of nuFLOSS and their anti-meritocratic views and shit so I don't care about the meme drama in OP.

However, any even remote consideration of gay eye in a codebase is automatic death for any project that has done so and it is not reversible. It's cancer, and there is not yet any treatment for it. Thus, thanks for bringing this to my attention, OP. Looks like I'm sticking to a linux 4.x box with packages of that time period forever.

>>109429587
Post link faggot ffs
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9764.0.html
(pure gold)

>>109429587
>gay forum drama about an accusation with no proof.
>accuses me of being some guy without proof
So where's the technical problem?

>caught using ai by a chimera linux dev, oh shit, delete his github issue and rewrite commit history, none the wiser, phew easy day
Hey, I remember that! The xlibre naggers have indeed erased everything, anyone with a screenshot of the issue? It was q66 or something.

>>109429724
Its ON TOP of the technical problemS, tango. No sleep for you tonight (or tomorrow or next week).

>>109429756
It was all over /g/, use the archive Luke.

>>109429675
You'll have to use an old kernel, most of all, considering that ai is used in the kernel, and was a big part of why it's most recent cve's were found. Enjoy the cve's, I guess.

>>109429783
Still not tango, you schizo faggot.

>>109429783
allow me to interject for a moment: it's side by side the technical problems and you're implying that shitty behavior is more important than shitty software.

>>109429815
The simple fact you didn't even ask "who the fuck is tango?" proves beyond all reasonable doubt you're xim.

>>109429821
I apologize, you're absolutely right. Have a (you).

>>109429838
>uses a kafka trap
>expects everyone to believe he isn't a communist faggot making shit up

>>109429807
Yeah that's why I said I'll be sticking to linux 4.x. The vast majority of cve's are irrelevant (e.g. only apply if you turn on a module nobody uses because it talks to, say, cassette players) and the few that are relevant are easier to backport into 4.x than it is to keep up with enslopification that has been ongoing. All the recent cve's are because of a mix of false reports due to ai misfires and ai enslopification.

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Notice that in
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9764.0.html
Nous appeared to be being evasive, never addressing the critical question, and in picrel, implied that he lied and misrepresented the problem entirely.

>>109429868
I'm pretty sure that copy-fail and dirty-frag had published PoC's, but I guess you can continue to lie and misrepresent facts.

>>109420176
I wish the black hebrew isrealites would start bullying you nerds on the internet

>>109429923
Both copy-fail and dirty-frag are such an example that only applies when using modules nobody uses ("e.g. because it reads casette tapes"). copy-fail doesn't apply to linux 4.x even if using algif_aead (which nobody uses).
Furthermore, dirty-frag was not "discovered by ai" and copy-fail was only purportedly "ai assisted", with no evidence.

Great self-own, ai tard.

>>109428213
I give a zero fuck about WWII, a war, which ended 81 years ago. If anything, things would have been much better if USA had balls and bombed Moscow with nukes as soon as they could.

>>109420176
metux was and is a retard. Nothing else need be said.

randomly found this one of these days https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/-/merge_requests/59
no particular reason

>>109429923
I mean, if he's already basically admitting to lying about or misrepresenting the problem, accusing someone of threatening him without providing any evidence, and trying to insinuate that the problem is worse than he himself described still without providing any actionable facts, why would I trust what he's trying to insinuate? If you're going to use this thread as something that should convince me that tango = bad, then you must be pretty dumb and easily convinced by manipulative people.

Does anybody sane actually use xlibre? I only ever see giga autists and schizos care about it.

>>109430021
think you already know the answer to that

>>109429989
>dirty-frag was not "discovered by ai" and copy-fail was only purportedly "ai assisted"
doesn't contradict this
>considering that ai is used in the kernel, and was a big part of why it's most recent cve's were found
Congratulations! You're a retard.

>>109429923
>in picrel, implied that he lied and misrepresented the problem entirely
he did you a favor methinks but i don't care about it, it's clear that you're a pushy faggot and miss the forest for the trees
instead tell me more about
>caught using ai by a chimera linux dev, oh shit, delete his github issue and rewrite commit history

>>109430103
>"You're being a pushy faggot"
>changes the subject
Was there a problem with the AI code other than it being a social faux-pas that somebody might be embarrassed about?

>>109430127
i'm not that anon, faggot
as i said i care more about xlibre deleting history and don't mind ai much

>>109430103
>"he did you a favor methinks but i don't care about it"
This is a contradiction, btw. You thinking that and have an opinion regarding requires that you care about it, but the idea that you don't is a necessary premise for you to change the subject. You have to accuse me of being "pushy" in order to try and take attention away from your own manipulative behavior.

>>109430152
>"it's clear that you're a pushy faggot"
What do you mean you're not that anon? You said this, and then changed the subject.

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>>109429923
>getting spat on the face
>evading me

>>109430187
I'm not tango. Refusing to answer the critical question is "being evasive" until you can provide evidence that actually supports the so far unfounded accusations against tango.

>>109430187
Also, that evidence would have to be comprehensive enough to justify, somehow, nous's apparently manipulative behavior, which is a pretty high bar.

>>109429923
>take a hint
I hate to break the news, but its over between xlibre and artix, get over it
>>109430221
>>109430205
ok tango

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>>109430244
they're still packaging it

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>>109430244
>I hate to break the news, but its over between xlibre and artix, get over it
I do not give a shit. I've just yet to see anyone make a single reasonable argument against xlibre. So far, I've gotten ai=bad, and a forum thread where nous appears to be evading reasonable questions, which might only be justifiable with evidence from outside of said forum thread, which nobody has provided. Further, my question regarding why the ai code was an actual problem was evaded. So far, the only actual issues with xlibre that anyone in this thread can articulate are 0, and the only source of intelligible problems with xlibre is the issue tracker of their repository.

>>109429923
>Fartix infighting
kekaroo

>>109430349
systemd is bad because of age verification, so you should stop using ini files for your init and networking and use bash scripts instead. They have a guy who calls himself nous, who's totally not using that name to virtue signal to christian right-wingers and his conduct is %100 trustworthy. He said mean things about trannies! Use the OS!

>>109430260
perhaps they just haven't removed it yet
>>109430289
>the only actual issues with xlibre that anyone in this thread can articulate are 0
from the thread you or some other anon linked above i found a post with a list of 10 reported issues concerning xlibre
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9764.msg60817.html
>the only source of intelligible problems with xlibre is the issue tracker of their repository
you still haven't answered
>caught using ai by a chimera linux dev, oh shit, delete his github issue and rewrite commit history
how can people trust you?

>>109430408
>10 reported issues concerning xlibre
Yes, but how does that affect you /personally/?

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>>109429923
>>109430158
>>109430205
>>109430221
>I'm not tango

>the horrendous font guy is the xlibre shill
Absolute fucking cinema.

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>>109430408
>from the thread you or some other anon linked above i found a post with a list of 10 reported issues concerning xlibre
And then everyone shit themselves after picrel.
Further, those issues being reported by people in that thread are not issues being articulated by people in this thread. Nor were the presence of those issues in that thread the reason why the thread was shared, here.
>>caught using ai by a chimera linux dev, oh shit, >delete his github issue and rewrite commit history
>how can people trust you?
see >>109430127
Further, I'm not tango. You're a delusional retard.

>>109430021
Fighting over a dying protocol, so romantic.

>>109430495
Using critical thinking and asking appropriate question of the people shilling against something isn't shilling for the thing that they are shilling against.

>>109430500
>Further, those issues being reported by people in that thread are not issues being articulated by people in this thread. Nor were the presence of those issues in that thread the reason why the thread was shared, here
wtf this tango bot is broken, it must run on xlibre

>mention xlibre crashes
>link to said issues, still open
>"n-nobody is providing actual issues!"
not even worth the (You) at this point

>>109430546
The thread was posted to provide context for a character assassination fallacy used against tango in a screenshot of an artix forum post. I'm sure anybody who wants to know actual problems with xlibre would still be better off looking at the issue tracker if they wanted actionable information. So far, digging through forum posts still seems like an unproductive activity.

>>109430562
Maybe if you got dropped on your head again, the fact of my repeated mention of the issue tracker might click for you.

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>>109430562
>they're not issues unless reported to xlibre github
>github requires 2fa
>0 issues reported
>the only actual issues with xlibre that anyone in this thread can articulate are 0
pottering

>>109428312
Text text text, barf. Read absolutely 0 of this but sorry xlibre doesn’t work or it does again I didn’t read this but sorry I won’t be using xNazi, that’s for transgender people that also happen to be of a skin color that isn’t white. So (You).

>>109430597
anecdotal stories about unreproducible bugs might as well be slander made up to disparage the project for political reasons, since there is no way to actually distinguish them.

>github requires 2fa
and there we go, proof that xlibrecucks don't even use the platform their tantrum project is hosted on
bugs aren't real if I don't acknowledge them, segfaults? red hat propaganda

>>109430602
It thrills me to know I'll die never having tasted cock, would you describe?

>>109430597
I use github with a tuta mail address and can report bugs using the platform without using my phone number at any point. skill issue.

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>>109430611
>people begging for help on distro forums are slanderers and disparaging xlibre for political reasons
Indeed, the only actual issues with xlibre that anyone in this thread can articulate are 0. These guys are in total denial.

>>109430648
>using tuta for anonymity
>using phone number for 2fa
Oh, the oxymoron.

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>>109430670
Where were they begging for help?
What part of this is "begging for help?"
Please do explain.

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>>109430683
You do not need 2fa enabled to make bug reports on an issue tracker.

>>109420711
that's disgusting!

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>>109430611
>>109430688
Your picrel is (you) denying reality. This picrel is the actual bug reports begging for help.
>not on github issues, doesn't count!
Whatever.

>>109430928
>picrel
holy shit, what was artix thinking

>>109430928
>not on github issues, doesn't count!
Yeah, they literally don't. That could be entirely astroturf, and it isn't posted somewhere where it's somebody's job to make sure the problem is real.

>>109430928
>crashes doing nothing
kek

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>>109430928
>the rumors were true

>>109430928
OH NO NO NO DELET DIS

>>109430928
WTF
>>109430952
>they literally don't
You can't expect from simple users to even know what github is.
>problem is real
Somehow, I doubt those are fake reports... I think you should work more closely with downstream because so far I don't see any serious intention from mainstream to help you.

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>>109430928

>>109430928
I would consider bugs reported for politically contentious software on the forum of a politically contentious distro, instead of the repository of the software in question, to be low to medium confidence information at best. Without myself taking the effort to reproduce each problem, I can generally assume that reports on the issue tracker are more credible. Political motivations aside, "bug reports" in distro forum pages are more likely to be cause by configuration errors or things idiosyncratic to the distro, and not necessarily a problem with the project.
>>109431037
If you're using artix at all and don't know what github is, thats not xlibre's fault. If you're running the distro that demands you choose which obsolete init system you want to use and read the documentation for it, you're literally a retard if you don't end up figuring out what github is at some point.

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>>109430928
>>109431058
>more denial

>>109430500
Artist's initial statement is right there. 'Regressions', not specifically in sonicde. Xlibre's regressions and sonicde's significant unresolved conflicts easily justify not providing further isos of sonicde (running on xlibre, but that seems obvious) until those are resolved.

Also I read the other thread tango shat up and the little drama in their telegram channel, and twice, nous tried to deescalate this imbecilic shitflinging. Tango kept pushing and I have to wonder why you're trying to make him look good. By any measure he's failing as xlibre's pr guy.

>>109431037
Further, it's not likely that somebody has xlibre installed on any distro that isn't artix and didn't visit their github page for the instructions to do so. Almost nobody unfamiliar with github would even know what xlibre is.

>>109431058
It was a friendly advice, friend. Don't call me a retard, thank you.

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>>109430928
What the hell am I seeing

>>109430928
this had to be all vibe-coding or they are really incompetent

>>109431083
Are you saying you managed to install artix without ever knowing what a github is? You might as well be saying you're too dumb to get a photo id.

>>109431074
How does this justify his asking for the specific issues and not getting a clear answer?

>>109431097
The advice was you work with downstream and don't expect all issues reach you at github. You obviously chose to bury your head in the sand and instead accuse the complaining parties of insidious motives.
But, again, you chose to call me dumb instead of taking good advice, because it would require you to admit you were wrong.

>>109431120
I'm not an xlibre maintainer. I don't have to work with anyone, and I persoanlly find it unreasonable to ask maintainers to give a shit about shitflinging forum posts for every niche dumbass distro.

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>>109430928
God Almighty, where did this catastrophe happen?

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>>109431139
>I'm not an xlibre maintainer

>>109430640
It tastes a lot like your girlfriend. “Girl” friend of course.

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>>109430928
>0 issues

>>109431106
>not getting a clear answer
He did. Twice in that thread alone and evidently before as well.

>>109430928
those aren't real

>>109431174
More retarded fantasies from the shill squad.
>>109431193
He was provided with a list of issues to which he asked a clarifying question that was never actually answered.

>>109431174
Your willingness to make this shit up and run with it gives me low confidence that you aren't willing to make shit up on forums and run with it, which would explain why you think github 2fa is some actual barrier-to-entry. Like being an illegal immigrant voting, it's easier for you to shit up forums with misinformation than it would be for you to report bugs through the proper channels, and still get the desired effect.

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>>109431139
>I'm not an xlibre maintainer.
I believe you.

>>109431242
You're free to be as much of a delusional liar as you want, I suppose, but your willingness to make shit up and lie doesn't lend any credibility to anything else you've said here.

>>109430928
legit question, is artix still packaging this mess?

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>>109430928
I'll post this everywhere xlibre is mentioned and there's nothing you can do to stop me, lol.

>>109430928
xlibre shills on damage control

>>109430928
>>109430977
>>109431049
>>109431089
>>109431174
>>109431185
>>109431306
All of these files start with the same 3 numbers for no reason, and the person posting the images is totally not lying about anything. He's been clear and straightforward the entire time.

>>109431212
>a clarifying question
It was a leading question and one that backfired since the artix devs were being polite, not malicious. Now it's public knowledge that sonicde is a joke and not ready for any kind of deployment.

>>109430928
You're destroying a FOSS project
>>109431336
>these files start with the same 3 numbers
and you're a newfag

>>109431290
Yes. 25.0 is in the stable repos, 25.1 is in the testing repos, don't know about 25.2. You're not forced to use any of them, you can use wayland or xorg (or xorg-tearfree) if you prefer.

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>>109431382
How the fuck is this a leading question?

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>>109431420
>I'm not tango

>>109431413
I swear I'll register at the forum and demand the immediate removal of this absolute crap.

>>109431441
That doesn't explain how that's a leading question. If it were, there'd be a straightforward explanation as to why. If the people trying to convince me that all of the problems here:
>>109430928
can be confidently accepted as real can't stop making shit up and lying, I'm just going to assume that those same people are posting fake issues through improper channels in order to create a false image of a project.

>>109431479
>going to assume that those same people are posting fake issues
yeah, those bastards began to hate for no reason at all
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9565.0.html

>>109431559
1 real issue doesn't explain the lying and making shit up, and total inability to provide clear answers to simple questions, though.

>>109431420
Because the intent is to have the artix devs concede that sonicde itself has no issues that prevent a sonicde iso from being maintained, which can then be framed at best as them saying falsehoods, at worst as them intentionally lying to disparage sonicde. As it turns out, sonicde has worse issues than regressions.

Furthermore, as I've already said, artist's initial statement said nothing about sonicde regressions but merely regressions in sonic+xlibre. Thus tango is twisting the original statement as well.

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>>109431591
>1 real issue
Have some more, how many are 1 too many?
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9882.msg59214.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9816.msg58780.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9757.msg58408.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9850.msg58972.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9610.msg57401.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9763.msg58430.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9892.msg59287.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9755.msg58405.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9088.msg54330.html
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,9758.msg58416.html

>>109430928
the absolute state of xlibre, who's so dumb to still defend it?

>>109431479
The Artix maintainers do not have a responsibility to the Xlibre devs to package and use their software in their isos. They do however have a responsibility to their users not to force buggy software upon them. You can dismiss those regression reports if you want, the Artix team can't and shouldn't.

>>109431633
Listen here chud, you will use my shitty software and you will be happy. Or else.

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>>109430928
Does Artix still have users after that? It should sue and demand compensation for mental anguish.

>>109431620
>>109430928
>>109431559
>>109431631
I can step in and defend xlibre, saar! My passion is defending lost causes, the loster the better. Only 1 btc saar.

>>109431620
Out of the first 3 of these, only one is an xlibre issue. Why should I keep reading?

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>>109430928
how's that even possible?

>>109430928
>many 'topics'
>no actual bug reports
that'd be ai and jeets shitting up the github

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>>109431737
>Out of the first 3 of these, only one is an xlibre issue.
I actually opened all 10, unlike you fucking liar:
1. Issue with xlibre-video-intel-25.0.0-6
2. DWM and Xlibre aren't working
3. Xlibre crash after few hours of inactivity
4. xlibre-video-intel update breaks SDDM, preventing login to desktop environment
5. [SOLVED] XLibre crashes when closing glxgears or starting Steam -- solved by disabling vsync, i.e. xlibre can't vsync
6. xlibre update (world) -> intel -> segfault
7. Can't boot into i3 or even sddm when i install xlibre-video-intel
8. Issues that occured after upgrading xlibre-video-nouveau
9. xlibre in qemu cursor is truncated
10. xlibre-video-amdgpu update causes segfault
>Every single one is xlibre issue
Suggestion: rename your joke of a project to keklibre

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>>109431799
>keklibre
my sides

>>109431737
>only one is an xlibre issue
dear tango, you have to stop humiliating yourself

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>>109430928
>>109431336
>>109431620
xlibre sucks hard

>>109431799
Those, indeed, are the titles of the threads.
1. an xlibre problem that rarely occurs to the user.
2. an xlibre "problem" that was fixed by using the xlibre beta version.

If this is your standard for a "problem," then I see no reason to continue reading these.

>>109431775
I can step in and defend xlibre, saar! My passion is defending lost causes, the loster the better. Only 1 btc saar. Rajneesh.

>>109431847
>random crashes idling isn't problem
>crash? use the beta!
i'm screenshooting the entire thread for my lecture tomorrow "how to repel potential customers"

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>>109430928
>reputation destroyed
>have an insufferable faggot bossing around

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>>109431139
>I'm not an xlibre maintainer

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>>109431737
the denial is strong with this one

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>>109430928
absolutely disgusting

>>109431847
1. Even if it's rare, it's still an issue that occurs in xlibre but not in xorg.
2. Fixes are supposed to be backported to the stable release in a timely manner. Asking users to switch to the testing version (in which other issues should be expected to arise) in order to fix bugs in stable is not something competent distro maintainers want to do.

>>109431878
>>random crashes idling isn't problem
Where did I say that it wasn't?
There you people go, making shit up and blowing shit out of proportion again.
>i'm screenshooting the entire thread for my lecture tomorrow "how to repel potential customers"
Good thing nobody using foss software is a customer.

>>109431983
They wouldn't have to do that if they didn't make xlibre the default for any of their installations. That's kinda jumping the gun and not a very competent decision, but we're talking about the irrationally anti-systemd people, so

>>109431799
I use xlibre with vsync and use steam regularly, so the conclusion that 5. [SOLVED] XLibre crashes when closing glxgears or starting Steam -- solved by disabling vsync = xlibre can't vsync is plainly nonsense and obviously overlooking idiosyncratic details.

>>109432064
Waiting several months while providing xlibre packages in the repos in order to garner preliminary feedback, to then introduce them in the testing then stable isos, and then taking that feedback into account and (seemingly) reverting that decision and keeping xorg as the default for now can hardly be considered jumping the gun, it's a very reasonable way to attempt switching a major component of your distribution.

>>109432280
If they didn't jump the gun, then why are they "seemingly" reverting? A couple of months is hardly enough time to evaluate the maturity of a project unless you're a zoomie, then you might be braindead enough to think otherwise.

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>>109420176
Why hasn't Lunduke said a word about any of this, huh?

>>109431905
I don't know C. I write recreational bash and zsh scripts. I can kinda read C, but could never write C, and I don't know dsa.

>>109432323
To evaluate the state of a project you ultimately need to deploy it, at least on a limited scale. Again, it was deployed in a gradual and reasonable manner, and I'll add that xorg was always provided as an option and made easy to switch back to. I say seemingly because that's what artist stated, but they're reworking things related to their isos so I wouldn't say anything definitive until that's done (and I don't use the isos anyway.)

>>109432466
The state of a project over a week vs a month vs a year vs multiple years is a measure of maturity. Project maturity is not whatever the current state of the project is.

>>109432497
And xlibre is a fork of a decades old project with relatively few changes made to it. You seem to treat it like a brand new project (e.g. PhoeniX), but it's a lot more sensical to treat it as a tentative major release (one with very few reasons to adopt from a user perspective, certainly, at least for now.)

>>109432531
You don't just fork a decades old project and do a major release and somehow fully understand everything effected by your changes unless the people who did the fork were also the people who wrote the original software. That's an unreasonable expectation.

>>109432531
It might as well be a new project, akin to a rewrite to a different language. In fact, it might even be more mature as a project if the people who forked it rewrote it in a different language because that would force them to understand everything about it.

>>109431853
All I know for certain is that x.org is coded by a troon and XLibre isn't.

>>109420176
can someone summarize this with normal human language and thought patterns?

>>109420176
It was obviously over when I saw the metux guy use xor op thinking it was exponentiation. This nigga literally doesn't know C.

>>109432976
I'm dreading that I have to fork this shit all by myself, go into hiding for a year or two and just kick X12 onto the scene no questions asked.
Nvidiot and other brands would have to supply a proper driver or a way to link against new versions because that seems to be the biggest problem here. They've cozied up into a 42 year old codebase and are not doing shit.

>>109432876
Wayland won, X trannies lost.

>>109432876
Xlibre introduced too many changes too soon, things broke for many users (>>109430928), xlibre denied liability and/or dismissed as "idiosyncratic", blamed everyone else for this, attacked Artix for dropping it and finally demanded a public apology.

>>109432150
>works for me
>therefore it works of everybody

>>109430928
Good Lord

>>109435200
just say it's shitty crap then

>>109430928
(you)

>>109428213
>fighting (actually fighting) fascists.... because you're a soldier... in a war... against fascists
Vs
>"fighting" "fascists"... because you're a mentally ill degenerate... in a miniskirt 2 sizes to small... bullying normal people on the Internet because it makes you feel self important

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>>109428213
Nazis? Fascism?
Bruh, we're talking about niche computer software here.

>>109435200
Pretty much this, shame

>>109432751
That implies troons write better software.

>not an xlibre maintainer
kek

>>109431097
there's a difference knowing github and walking github

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>>109431139
>tango to base, tango to base, over

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>x11libre is the future of xorg
>every update and minor bug fix has a chance of breaking shit
>issues get fixed at snail pace
>distros hesitant
>metux is "trust me bro"-ing AI on the codebase, lets GLX break thanks to claude
>takes over a week to fix this
>these merge requests are considered useful
wasn't worth even contributing to it

>>109435818
You just perfectly described Linux in general, especially trash like KDE. Except they don't use "trust me bro" but "feelings and diversity are more important than skills or you are nazi".

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>>109430569
>character assassination fallacy used against tango
That's the same tango who attempted character assassination against an artix developer and, failing that, against the distro?
>digging through forum posts still seems like an unproductive activity.
>Noooooo stop looking into my dirty laundry
Spectacular backfire

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>The real glownigger psyop wants you to use grassroots software instead of corporate backed slopware!
Who are we fooling?

Xlibre just works btw, more than Gayland or Xtroon ever has.

>>109435200
So when people back in the day said the xlibre guy's coding standards were low even while he was contributing to regular xwindows, they were right, huh. Who would have thought.
Xlibre is just another piece of sneedware.

Deeplore here. >>109420616
All this really did start because some trannies had a melty over an autistic polish kid making a transphobic joke in private.

>>109435866
This tango dumbfuck is bringing xlibre down with him, huh?
>>109435915
>Xlibre just works btw
Except when it doesn't >>109430928

>>109435944
there's no "transphobia", it's transgust
always has been

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>>109435866
Checked. It's called FAFO.

>>109435966
I never experienced any of these. I assume it's from Arch users on a rolling release, and I can point to any Wayland compositor (or the protocol itself) and find countless similar issues.
Unlike the old X there's no tearing by default and it has Xnamespaces. Unlike Wayland there's actually proper multimonitor support and you can run it without a compositor.

>>109436007
Sure, see >>109435206

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>>109435866
>pls stop attacking me it's not right

>>109430928
Are people still defending this crap of a fork? Besides tango I mean.

>>109436017
If you're really tech literate enough to know what a display manager is "It just works" is enough. I can share how I installed and configured it if you want.

>>109430928
>>109436040
This wouldn't have blown so much out of proportion if that tango nigger had kept his mouth shut and not demanded explanations and apologies. Perhaps even, Artix would resume making Xlibre ISO if/when they sorted their shit out. Show him the door.

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Guys what the fuck is this shit? What is this drama about? I don't know much about this ecosystem, I just want to know if shit works. This is beyond autistic. Go for a walk, clear your head, quit being a bitch, all of you. Or make an actual discussion thread and keep the autism contained here.

>>109436067
No thanks, tango. I'm on Xorg and It Just Works. Better fps in Cyberpunk too.

>I just want to know if shit works
it may work for you, for a while
others haven't been so lucky >>109430928

>>109430928
It was solar flares, you bigot

>>109436097
This, >>109436087
idk who Tango is and I'm not caught up on the latest drama. But Xlibre is the future of display managing on Linux. Have you considered sending Metux an e-mail that there's a problematic individual in his organization?

>>109436147
OK tango, I will.

>Xlibre is the future of display managing on Linux
>>109430928
a bleak future

>>109436307
If this is the future I want the past back

Former Xlibre chud here. I switched to labwc.

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xlibre is getting so desperate they're celebrating adoption by a distro created by a transgender:
https://xcancel.com/XLibreDev/status/2081838580696039642
https://github.com/spivanatalie64

>>109436408
No way... But at least 48% might keep using it.

>>109420176
This is the fag that killed xlibre btw https://brodie-robertson.pages.dev/

>>109436147
>idk who Tango is
know thyself

>>109436408
kek, the irony

>>109430928
totally normal

At least xlibre is good a sucking hard, how many software projects are good at something?

>>109436408
The despair is palpable