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>>109420559>730x410come on anon kek
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hory shiet you beat the schizo by 4 seconds thank you baker thank you
/h/ isn't looking at kekstone's shit so I'm sticking with anima.
>inb4 nigbo cryspam
Is there any way a British nigga can mirror civitai pages without having to pitifully beg strangers for a catbox link like a pauper? Places like civitarchive and seaart would just use the civitai page as a download link (Really gay/retarded)
>>109420619I only see you crying. Just filter it and turn off stubs, retard.
>>109420610>>109420614Thread theme:>hory shiet you beat the schizo by 4 seconds thank you baker thank you
I am so tempted to buy credits for the API for Minimax but it looks like slop tbf.>>109420624VPN. I use a VPN.
>>109420503hanging on the wall
>>109420571thanks for the bake anon
>>109420633no image no opinion
>>109420617it needs high res training before its worth using
There's been no major model release and yet the threads are moving pretty fast. NA finishing summer break and/or EU starting summer break?
they always bin fast
>>109420615By not releasing Seedance open weights they're taking a massive risk now that Flux.3 is as good as it is. Their model is shit and prohibitively expensive, while Flux.3 will have cheaper API providers, plus Flux.3 will see development fast when it comes out.
Ani = basedhttps://rentry.org/ranfaggot = not based
>>109420645/>mfw Resource news//>mfw Research news//>mfw Resource news//>inb4 nigbo/
>>109420624ProtonVPN, use their free tier. Load the Civ page with model you want then TURN OFF the VPN and then click the download button. Been doing that for a year and it still works.
>>109420646I want to huff on hopium but something catastrophic always happens. dumb decisions, not enough data, too much slop, stripped cunny, artist integrity, etc.
>>109420663put me in the filters
pretty nice, Wallace and Gromit bros, we'll be eating goodhttps://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2083193056455794688/vid/avc1/2560x1440/gFzaYXV6A2yXWEj2.mp4
It seems API is still aheadhttps://x.com/0xInk_/status/2083065622095700139/video/1
civitai blocks me through normal vpns not sure how or why, using opera browser lets me get on
>>109420685obviously, Minimax H3 is meant to be run locally, Seedance is probably some giant 70b model
>>109420685>A 15-second clip at 1080p on Seedance 2.0 costs around $6 (depending on the platform), whereas 15 seconds at 2K on MiniMax H3 is only about $1.50What the actual fuck? do cloudcucks really????
Yo chuds can I get the kpop bitches lora for krea
>>109420694it's more expensive but you pay more for better quality, as it should
>>109420685but seedance is so overpriced it's basically unusable.isn't it around $2 for just 10 seconds at 1080p? that's insane
>>109420694>a 5090 costs $4000 while a 3060 is only $400, what the actual fuck???
>>109420685Ahead of H3*Flux.3 is still on par with that and less slopped for T2V, don't forget.
>>109420709Flux.3 max*sorry made a typo
>>109420707>but seedance is so overpriced it's basically unusable.bro, with seedance you can make hollywood tier movies, it's way less expensive than your regular hollywood slop that costs hundreds of millions of dollarshttps://youtu.be/fyZhC2TXgcs?t=432
>>109420709ok what's your point? the post said API is still ahead. Flux 3 is API.you don't seriously think the local scraps you cattle are getting will be any better than H3, do you?
>>109420731if your the best you can charge nearly anything. They prob have a good margin
>>109420709>Flux.3it's flux 3 max, and we won't get that on local
>>109420724Nah, Flux.3 dev is what we're seeing now. They're still improving the weights. Trust the plan. Also note what it says on Flux.3 page>Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action predictionNowhere does it say we're getting distilled weights.
>>109420749this but lara croft
>>109420737>if your the best you can charge nearly anything.of course, that's basic economics, when you're in a position of Monopoly, you can set whatever price that you want, people can't do anything about it since there's no viable alternative
>>109420743They could give us a smaller but non-distilled model that's on par with their current showing, while their API gets refined "HD" version of that.
>>109420743>Nowhere does it say we're getting distilled weights.dev has always been guidance distilled, flux 1 dev was like that, flux 2 dev was like that as well
>>109420702>>109420708You missed the point, I would never pay either of those prices for a fucking video gen.
damn almost. But its amazing that krea can mix all these styles.
>>109420731freetardybrowns are poorfags, they spent their entire savings on a 3060 which is why comfy had to damage control by saying H3 (((fits))) on a 3060. the idea of spending $1000 to make an entire movie insults them, because they never fathomed the idea of movies costing millions of dollars before in the first place. AI is the first introduction of creative tools to the third world, so localpoors have zero comprehension of the actual cost of things
>>109420775people who want to do professional movies will do it, I don't think you realize how big of a deal it is to give Hollywood tier power to everyone
>>109420775its for movie / commercial production which normally costs millions, this is massively cheaper. This is not for bob
>>109420784>>109420786But think of the actors
>>109420709>and less slopped for T2VFluxLess sloppedlel
>>109420784>>109420786That's fine. but even then if I was a studio I'd just buy a bunch of hardware and run everything in-house.
>pay $6 in electricity to get a good movie-quality result>burn $6 and 6 hours in electricity rerolling nonsensical locaslop until it looks halfway passable
>>109420801>I was a studio I'd just buy a bunch of hardware and run everything in-house.unfortunately we don't have something as good as seedance locally
>>109420708nvidea are so fucking greedy you can get two 3090s with more total vram for like 1k compared to 4k for 5090 though
>>109420801run what exactly?
>>109420801run what, wan 2.2?? if you want quality, you pay for API. you'd need to spend $20 million+ just on a research team to train your own personal model
>>109420731Damn, that's good. Pretty uncanny, though. The decision to go for a slightly stylized look instead of full realism was a wise one.
>>109420819>The decision to go for a slightly stylized look instead of full realism was a wise one.yeah, he used Midjourney 7, MJ x Seedance combo is definitely a killer
>>109420812too bad stacking two 3090s doesn't actually double the speed. for people living in the first world, time is money. not everyone wants to sit around for 2 hours waiting for their 16x3090 rig to finish hallucinating some llama 3 slop
>>109420808>>109420814>>109420816Hi bots.
>>109420771Yeah but no confirmation they will do this for Flux.3, unless they explictly say it will be distilled
>>109420832too hard to admit that you are saying retarded shit and that you are rightfully corrected for that?
>i'm have brown hands and cant comprehend so i'll call you bots
>>109420837if it's not distilled then what will be the difference between flux 3 max and flux 3 dev? you think flux 3 dev will be a smaller model but trained the same or something?
>>109420840keep pretending like we don't have 2 viable local video gen models coming in the next few days.
>>109420837this is quite a pathetic and desperate post. i am starting to agree with the "localkeks are cattle" poster
>>109420848>i'm havestop projecting
>>109420853>greentext>projecting
>>109420829>not everyone wants to sit around for 2 hours waiting for their 16x3090 rig to finish hallucinating some llama 3 slopthat's exactly why Jensen is for open source, people will be willing to pay for expensive GPUs if you get quality images/videos in local, which hasn't happened yet
>>109420856whatever you say, brownie
>>109420743>Nah, Flux.3 dev is what we're seeing nowlollmao even
>>109420862lose some weight benchod
>>109420866or else it's a troll or else it's a BFL employee trying to turn off the Minimax fire kek
>>109420801This. Udio has been SOTA at music for a while, but what's the point if it's all locked up in a cloud? Musicians aren't going to leak their commercial secrets to it, so local models like ACEStep and anything that's upcoming are a million times more relevant.
why no news has been posted yet?
>>109420875this is better / less slopped. Its tag only though, no lyricshttps://huggingface.co/Localsong/Localsong
>>109420877Social worker visit
>>109420883>this is better>no lyrics
>>109420850They're still training Flux.3. They've got plenty of room to improve the weights and call it Pro. What I think is that we will get the model we're seeing now.
>>109420860I'd rather pay jenson to OWN my own things instead of owning nothing and having my wallet raped on the regular
>>109420895the maker showed off that you CAN train loras with lyrics on it though. He plans to do that later. He said he did a lora on his favorite artist and felt bad cause it was perfect
can we skip lolcow threads next time?
>>109420851This kills the bots.
>anima,krea2,h3,chroma lora for kreawhat a based summer
>>109420932true that, took some time but finally 2026 doesn't seem like a meme year for AI
>>109420924no one is stopping you
>>109420924>we
>>109420829no current models have unacceptable run time as long as they are fully supported in the vram on 3090sit's more like waiting 20s with a 5090 vs 30s wtih a 3090, hardly worth x4 the price
>>109420952>it's more like waiting 20s with a 5090 vs 30s wtih a 3090, hardly worth x4 the priceand with int8 you get more speed increase on the 3090
3090 is too slow to be worth it now. 4090 is the new 3090
that's bullshit, but I believe it
>>109420982Flux 3 max will probably be released soon, but I won't be surprised they'll take their time to make a decent dev version, Minimax H3 is forcing them to lock the fuck up now
>>1094209782.5x the price for 20% more performance? damn, good deal.
>>109421008kek
>>109420883That's interesting, got any example outputs? Even if it produces natural sounding anime songs, I can just train an ACEStep XL LoRA and get better results desuhttps://litter.catbox.moe/mtk1xzkyqtbip2lk.flachttps://litter.catbox.moe/l5yq6qenvg142zd7.flachttps://litter.catbox.moe/h8sr9zoff0wut4yq.flachttps://litter.catbox.moe/jee9mwociwwdq1m3.mp3ACEStep has gotten really good now, most of its prowess owed to the fact it's a 4B model and no one else (E.G. Stability) will give us a music model that's is as robust and huge like that. Also AFAIK the Suno arch leaked and it's not a far-cry from ACEStep.
>>109421008>20% more it's more like 50% faster. add up all that time you spend waiting for gens and it comes out to way more than the minimum wage hours you'd need to buy the better card.time is money
>>109421016those all sound like ass, its like i'm playing it through an iphone 3 speaker
i don't know why like 75% of my LTX gens start with the subject not doing shit for a second or two.. its really fucking irritating
>>109421039>it's more like 50% faster.not with int8 convrot, you get bigger speed increase on the 3090 than on the 4090, it's definitely not worth 2.5x the price
>>109421052>pelvic curtain turns into ass capegay
>>109421016just tag prompt for these. Its really good at game sound tracks btw. no RL done yet which would increase qualityhttps://litter.catbox.moe/zkub6f14bzu5lt9u.mp3https://litter.catbox.moe/b0yxh8rxdbfnphvp.wavhttps://litter.catbox.moe/bbltac7jedui37jq.mp3
>>109421052>LTXIsn't the general consensus that this model sucks in pretty much every way. sfw and nsfw so why are you bothering to use it
>>109421058lol
>>109421052>its really fucking irritatingit's ok anon, in 2 days you'll be playing with a way better toy
>>109421061it's good at close up talking
>>10942105340x0+ has better bandwidth. Ampere is pretty okay still but when you examine these gpu generations side by side it's obvious how much Nvidia is actually limiting their designs and drip feeding features to consumers.
>>109420982god I fucking hate this nigger HE HAS NOT GOTTEN A SINGLE THING CORRECT
>>109421061dunno.. the other day people were asking why i was using WAN instead of LTX.. i haven't done this shit in quite a while so I thought I'd give it a whirl but I remember the original LTX sucked balls so I guess it really hasn't improved much at all
>>109421052>LTXI deleted it after few hours of tinkering
>>109421074fair enough, but yeah wan is generally better
>>109421074there are a few brownoids who think "new thing = good". just ignore them. they pulled the same shit with flux.1, thinking it was going to replace SDXL yet illustrious released and flux.1 was forgotten. stick with what works. ltx is dogshit
>>109421052LTX-2.3 is picky about what subjects and views it wants to animate. Generally the more realistic it looks the better it does. Also, it doesn't "like" rear views, and will do stupid shit like get boobs wrong if the subject doesn't start with them visible. But it'll do 30s at 24fps with no extra fuckery, so it's got that going for it.
>>109421049They sound as real to the recordings as you can get even though I haven't touched any mastering tools, and the Fate Gear even better than some of the files it was trained on (though tbf their mastering process isn't the best or the audio quality I ripped just isn't as good). It sounds like a slightly lower quality (pre-mastered) real recording, that's what matters the most. If I gen on Udio I get similar gen quality, but it's cloudshit and locked behind an API. Suno has always sounded synthetic, nothing special.
What's keeping Krea 2 from being the absolute best?zitards need not reply
>>109421108>If I gen on Udio I get similar gen qualityIt's not even close to Udio. Your ears are fucked dude. I want local audio to get better but you saying retarded shit like this isn't going to prove anything to people who can actually hear it just makes local look retarded. The audio fidelity is beyond fucked and literally hurts to listen to. Your ears are either fucked or you're listening to this on some ass gamer headphones.
>>109421117danbooru knowledge
>>109421117chroma tune being done at high res. It fixes the issue of it not being good at tag prompting / not knowing as much as illustrious.
>>109421117the zittard is a krea2 failure who can't stack loras properly
>>109421117>What's keeping Krea 2 from being the absolute best?a non meme vae, so it won't be the best, hell, I can't wait for flux 3 dev to be a better image model too
>>109421117the actual answer? lack of krea.2 medium weights. krea 2 turbo was not directly derived from krea 2 base, it was derived from medium which was significant training continuation over base. they withheld medium to prevent proper finetuning. kekstone's project will require a ton more compute and data now because the actual base model for krea 2 is quite terrible in comparison to turbo.
>>109421117its not ZIT
>>109421117It is the absolute best, so far. Which is why it has totally taken over all image-gen outside of pure anime/hentai.
>>109421151lol no one is using that shit anymore
>>109421127you think fanart looks better than official art?
>>109421156Yes. They are. This is made with ZIT!
>>109421159it cant do official art of it either
>>109421165you are meming right? That shit is artifacty as fuck
>>109420860>people will be willing to pay for expensive GPUs if you get quality images/videos in local, which hasn't happened yetAll the best AI art I've seen has come from people using local models. Nothing else gives you the control you need.
>>109421175Good thing it was made with Krea 2 then!MWAHAHAHA!
>>109421175ofc he is.
>>109421156It dominated image generation for ~7 months, not bad these daysKrea 2 is better at everything but it is slower, the insane amounts of loras it has already means that unless something much better comes along, it will reign supreme like no other model since the SDXL finetue days
>>109421179>All the best AI art I've seennice self own. because the actual good stuff from midjourney doesn't even look AI anymore.
>>109421179nah, for image art, Midjourney is still the best, and for videos, you definitely need something like seedance or else it looks like shit
>>109421194based retard
>>109421169https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/can you prove otherwise?
>>109421185oh yeah? post the workflow thenbut you won't
>>109421206MWAHAHAHA YOU WERE FOOLED!
If you ever encounter him (1024×1024, 2hu characters, Granblue characters) >>109421127, you must know that this creature has 4 GB of VRAM. He will shill Anima to death, he knows that no other diffusion model will give him the time of day.Ignore Oekaki posts.Filter Oekaki posts.I repeat, he has 4 GB of VRAM he has no objetive opinion about diffusion models.
>>109421203guess i can at least give it a shot
>>109421212I think you forgot to paste the link to the workflow
>>109421219model?
how come dall-e 3 was the only model that could ACTUALLY do style properly, and it was 3 years ago? not even the current API models have this ability anymore. there isn't a single base model that can do GBA fire emblem portraits properly. what happened to this dataset??
>>109421218Its a generic Krea 2 workflow faggot, cope your model sucks.
>>109421214he uses the best open weights anime model? what a freak!
>>109421222krea-2-turbo-int8-convrot
Europe may not have any top-tier LLMs and may not be a major player in AI, but it will have comprehensive regulations and restrictions on AI. Aside from climate regulations and bottle caps that don’t fall off these will be Europe’s greatest achievements.
>>109421214I had 4GB vram for years before I bothered to upgrade and you have probably seen my (non-anime) gens already even if you don't even know. So what?
vramlets below 12gb have zero opinons that matter
>>109421225it's sad when you think about it yeah, even Krea can't do ps1 or n64 styles :(
>>109421225OpenAI paid third worlders handsomely to caption images to train their captioning model, clearly they made the only proper captioning model.
4gb means you have to stick with the best models because you dont have time to fool around with subpar ones. for me those are krea2 and anima
>>109421240What is your upscaling process if any? I always struggle with clean output especially when using those prompt adherence loras. It just shits out artifacts from time to time.
migu is literally hitler
>>109421240gib momo lora pls
>>109421227I believe you, anon, now drop the file in catbox and paste the link here, go ahead
>>109421249>you dont have time to fool around with subpar onesthat means you CAN'T fool around with anything except the cheapest models. You are physically hardware bound to less models thus cannot give a real opinion on anything.
>>109421108I genned on ACEStep Base/Turbo 0.3 merge btw https://huggingface.co/Astral01/Ace-Step_v1.5_XL_Base_Turbo_0.3_Merge/tree/mainThe model they gave us out of the box isn't as rich in sound quality, and SFT wouldn't be as creative or generalize as well.>>109421059Interesting, has sound quality issues but it's getting there. Seems ACEStep 1.0 quality at current state. If they improve its sound quality perhaps it wouldn't be bad for instrumentals. I'd still stick to ACEStep with a LoRA though, but if they improve this it could be as good as Udio if it follows lyrics well and we get extension of song time (similar to Udio extend feature), at least for anime music. I hope they plan on iterating on it and eventually give us a larger model with more genres.
https://youtu.be/AKGNGrD4Bxk?t=321people are overestimating that model, yeah it's pretty good and it'll blow Wan and LTX out of the fucking water, but there's a lot of fuziness on high paced action, I guess this is the best they can do so that it can be run locally
it's funny watching zitjeet melt down deeper into schizophrenia as people stop caring about z image. so far he's resorted to>lurking the thread for 12+ hours per day, seething at any krea image he sees>cries about the qwen vae despite not understanding how it works>downloading blender solely to make 3d poses in an attempt to prove krea 2 can't 'pose naturally'>posting shitty krea gens and calling them z image in an attempt to prove... somethingit's impressive how much seethe krea 2 managed to cause
>>109421264>small = bad>big = goodonly a jeet would have such a simplistic opinion desu
lol its not even closeH3:https://litter.catbox.moe/8w6eyd0tlg1wnvl5.mp4LTX2.3:https://litter.catbox.moe/8lgtx3h4wrf00n9m.mp4
>>109421283you over simplified what I said in an obvious projection attack. who are you trying to convince? yourself?
>>109421279>posting shitty krea gensif they were actually krea gens he'd post the metadata
>>109421258Thats what I've been using for a while>>109421262Sure, 15min
>>109421279But I thought it wasn't a Krea 2 photo I posted? Faggots. COPE LOLOLOL
>>109421293have you looked into https://github.com/LoganBooker/SesquiLSRmuch better latent upscaling, means you can do lower denoise or steps on the second pass
>>109421296wowawoowee
>>109421279>people stop caring about z imagekek
>>109421266>7:40video still has that "smear vaseline all over everything past the reference frame" look to it. it was so obvious with van, you'd see a thumbnail and immediately all style just drops from the image and it turns into generic goopy nonsense. seems like H3 isn't much better
so seedvr2 is a meme?
whats a good workflow for krea2?I'm out of the loop, do I just use the comfyUI template or is there a better workflow out there?
>>109421126>It's not even close to UdioTf is lil bro talking abouthttps://www.udio.com/songs/pHLn2TLb2jSsQfa9CC7S7Jhttps://www.udio.com/songs/heDdLtrK4wJcbQxShJW7sGPerhaps you can enlighten me, but only the second song sounds close to the power metal songs I linked, and in fact the vocals are more crisp anyways on the songs that I linked. Udio's only current moat is that it trained on a massive Youtube dataset so it sounds unslopped out of the box, but ACEStep with my merged model and a LoRA is superior.
>>109421285can you do some I2V comparison so that we can see the differences more easily, but yeah it's obvious that LTX is fucking done
>>109421311the comfyorg repo doesn't track Krea 2 downloads, then you'd seealso show the SD1.5 numbers
>>109421279nice, you made him melt like crazy. he'll be here crying for 4 more hours at least
>>109420571
>>109421318Use the template I don't think you need anything else in most cases.You should try euler_a 16 steps with simple or beta scheduler.
Cope and seethe faggots.
>>109421329>it sounded real in my mind
>he's crying
>>109421320As for the ZUTOMAYO gens, still better quality on the songs I linked, the voice and instruments are too low and not there on Udio.https://www.udio.com/songs/nfdtmJRUC7niZfhseaHdNkhttps://www.udio.com/songs/hoCg4BmayTYXcJfjo4jvbTMaybe Udio is compressing their stuff for streaming but it's just not close to the quality of the lossless songs that ACEStep outputs.
i am a vibe artist not an ai artist, why do coders get the cooler name
Gemma made this prompt for me.
>>109421320Yeah that sounds like complete shit too. Suno is what I was thinking about.Regardless it sounds like crap.
>>109421360Cope faggot. I gave you proof its Krea 2. Now come back to ZIT and all will be forgiven. I forgive you for straying from the light, but I'm hoping the ZIT God will be forgiving to you.
> https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Kroma I like it. It does seem to succeed in creating more interesting 1girls.
>>109421383>>109421393lol you call these good?
>>109421383it fixed krea's expressionless issue better than any other lora including smorfs / mystic. And yea its less sloppy feeling now. Skin texture is slightly worse though due to low res only
>>109421285lmfao @ ltx
someone do alien pushups as a comparison
>>109421400what's wrong with these? i think they're pretty good
>>109421416with an alien with huge tits that make it impossible to do a proper pushup
>>109421421what's wrong with them is that zitjeet can't fit the model used to generate them in his 3050.
>>109421440yea H3 at higher steps and with a lora for whatever your specifically after will be better than seedance
>>109421440>2.0you're late, seedance 2.5 is already here, it's the new SOTAhttps://xcancel.com/matrixmurals/status/2083108345037332752#m
>>109421262https://huggingface.co/xixxix-HF/MomoHiraiTwice_Krea2>>109421306>have you looked into https://github.com/LoganBooker/SesquiLSRNope, but I'll check it out. Looks pretty decent
>>109421401Yea. And the poses and so on. It's on average easier to get nice illustrations/anime even on shorter prompts, I suppose? >>109421400I'm not entering in a "world's best artwork" contest. It's good.
How does china benefit from releasing a seedance 2.0 level local model?
>>109421464basedthanks king
>>109421470Stop posting this slop. Its hurting my eyes
>>109421464Based!!
>>109421483no. you start posting 1girl.
>>109421474by releasing a seedance 2.5 level api model
>>109421474It's good for brand recognition and competition. It is so incredibly sad that people are okay that internet for example, has been consolidated into 5 areas controlled by mega corporations.They want to do the same thing with AI which should be obvious at this point.
>>109421474mimimax knows they cant beat seedance 2.5 and so api only would be a bad idea. By doing OS they build up hype
>>109421285With LTX, it seems like we're in a miniaturized world, running simulations with miniature trains that you could buy at a tobacco shop.
>>109421379>Suno is what I was thinking abouthttps://suno.com/song/6f5762f2-aebe-46b1-8145-9ab9839d7ca9https://suno.com/song/fdce9002-bcac-4b66-abdb-e7c29b919d89Power metal sounds even worse than Udio. Local (with a LoRA) won, I trained on single artists but I could find a group of them for each genre I like so it generalizes better, then just train at massive rank and suddenly I have a model that generalizes just as good as Suno or Udio while being local, high quality and unchained.
we need z image turbo RL to be done on video models so they can be detailed instead of blurry in motion
>>109421474>a seedance 2.0 level local model?it's not even close to seedance 2.0, which is why they release it, they're putting their name on the map by releasing a local SOTA, and then people will look at them once they release a more serious model
>>109421515that is 100% what H3 is. I would be surprised if its bigger than 20B.
>>109421509No, those examples although bad are still leagues better than anything acestep can make. Those songs don't literally hurt my ears also power metal sucks. Acestep is just not usable yet. Sorry and stop atting me with your garbage ass tween music.
>>109421470>>109421393>>109421383Show me something Anima or SDXL can't do or fuck off. Spreading bullshit and then playing innocent like "teehee just having fun :)" is not cute, it's not helpfull, it's not informative.
>>109421515>blurry in motionI hope I'm wrong but I think you can't do better than that with that size (probably the same size as LTX)
>>109421530He's a Krea 2fag. Nothing original.
>>109421536primed for rape
>>109421508ugh, a normal sized ass please
>>109421508ugh, a bigger sized ass please
>>109421549She had too many ComfyNodes.
>>109421508Ugh, no more Krea 2 slop
>>109421527>No, those examples although bad are still leagues better than anything acestep can makeNah the instruments are drowned out and the voice sounds synthetic. That is the most offensive example in sound quality, you're listening on tin cans. Besides, the samples I linked as very similar to the actual Power Metal that the real band plays, what you're saying is synthetic Suno crap is better than a real artist.
>>109421530teehee just having fun :) anon, what's a danbooru? is that like a node or something?
>>109421583xD
why does krea 2 cause so much seethe? that shit needs to be studied
>>109421596it all comes down to money. he's too poor to run it.
>>109421596this general you mean. you dont see other generals posting krea2 gens with seething
>>109421596
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
after one gen I can confidently say the Kroma lora is detrimental
>>109421596>>109421610samefag
cumui makes me coom
>>109421628prompt?>>109421620nice axe wound
he's actually throwing a tantrum lol. new rentry when?
>>109421628>still believing that kekestone can deliverwhen will you learn?? :(
how I feel on kroma. Though this post does not mention that it did teach it a ton more concepts and e621 / dan tags
>>109421661what do you expect from localkeks? they unironically think flux 3 won't be distilled untrainable slop. absolute sunk costs and delusion.
zitfag spends all day trying to ragebait people, but the only person he ends up ragebaiting is himself lmao
>>109421643
>>109421678where do you think you are?
>>109421678>they unironically think flux 3 won't be distilled untrainable slop.that's the worst part, that sulfur guy won't be able to finetune flux 3 dev because it's guidance distilled, so only Minimax will have a serious NSFW finetune, that alone is a huge blow to the fluxkeks
If you're gonna pretend to use ZIT then at least make the fingers look fucked up
/r/ing a schizo rentry for comfy and zittard
>>109421698the thing is minimax might also be distilled / RLed too much to train like zimage was
>>109421643>new rentry whenbut it's anifart who makes those endless console war discourseshttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>109421670ofc redditors like anything from chroma since if they aren't pajeets, they are furry faggots
>>109421225My guess it is ripped the shit out of actual art and was very lightly slopped, if at all.
I asked Claude to generate some stuff he thinks would look cool using any model or settings he wants. Here's what he got
>>109421718
>>109421725
>>109421711we'll see if they release a base and turbo model, or just the turbo model
>>109421729
>>109421739Beautiful,See? BEAUTIFUL!
>>109421739holy mother of plastic slop
>>109421739
>>109421739>masterpiece, best quality:O
where are all the rich furfags to donate to kekstone?
>>109421745what's up with those square artifacts
>>109421747
>>109421758funding ponyv8
>>109421739nvidia robotics research base model tier plastic lool
>>109421761an attempt at a large LED screen in the background
>>109421753
>>109421758working on video dataset / gonna train with Sulphur on whatever the best video model ends up being
>>109421530Feel free to show you can generate ~the samee images at the same resolution one shot with a good level of control, it may still be interesting to people with old hardware.I do not think you can.
>>109421779big if true
>>109421771And that's all he wanted to make. these last two are wan2.2 t2v and i2v
>>109421767you people misuse the word plastic way too much. that image looks like shit but it doesn't look plastic
>>109421802it does look plastic
>>109420180>>109419490I'm not even into Inde or Jennifer, but I find myself drawn back to using your loras again and again because they're such great quality.Do you have a specific training guide you followed? you've inspired me to make my first lora
3D is pretty great because it's based on averages in the first place. It's natural for AI to generate smooth surfaces.
z image prompt engineers seems to be ignoring half me prompt, the sexual stuff. whats the point of this?
>>109421767
>>109421820I mean *natural = based on statistical idea of what average means3D look is more average than camera data
>>109421815go to your ganges and look at all the plastic bottles then come back to me.
>>109421802somewhat smoothed out details paired with those shit colors makes him look like a wax figure
>>109421825ZITChads like us, don't need porn, incel.
>>109421820that's also why pixars first feature movie was toy story, the smooth textures worked in favor of the premise
>>109421836That's a whole different notion altogether.That movie's roots are based on the history of computer graphics. but you are right... smooth foreskin / blinn shading it looks nice.
>smooth foreskin
>>109421827yep, definitely a superb image
>>109421439oic.. terminally online people having a spat.. got it
>>109421853If you don't have one, please don't complain to us.
>>109421725perty
post frogs
>just asked codex to fix ai-toolkit>it did we are in the vibe code over talk to devs stage
>>109420571Is there any option for image generation available as flatpak?
>>109421747Like someone cranking the "HDR" whatever sliders to the max in some photo editing software.Unfortunately it's entirely possible that this was actually correctly learned, some people unironically do that for an audience that likes it.
>>109421886you sure?
>>109421892No because it all depends on python and pytorch and hundreds of other python dependencies.Would be possible to create an archive though.
so what set him off this time? trying to snipe the bake again?
>>109421903am I sure it fixed it? Yes
>>109421910You sure?
https://litter.catbox.moe/sy7rocdvm2e5299s.mp4
>>109421892If anything it is more of a podman/docker thing given that you also regularly will have to supplement lib updates models and so on.Most only contain the python libs with conda/pip/uv and just run the rest normally.
>>109421919could have been funny, but wasn't
>>109421904Depending on a bunch of fiddly dependencies is all the more reason to have it neatly packaged as a flatpak. I found a bunch for LLMs but nothing for image generation.
Zitchad is the troll baker, isn't he.
>>109421932On your end yes. On the side that hosts multiple gigabyte flatpaks that get downloaded multiple times a week probably not so much. And then of course there are the models that will also be needed.Podman/docker is better for this but again the actual most usual way is just to contain the python libs with conda/pip/uv pip.I won't stop you from packaging your own flatpaks of course but I don't really think anyone will provide them.
>>109421944100%
>>109421932You don't need flatpaks for llms. You need to use llama.cpp and get gguf files. For frontend you can use llama.cpp's own until you are sure what to do (vibe your own or use something else).Image generation is more complicated.
where is kino?
>>109421969under there
>>109421969on modelscope
>>109421892Why ? You install all the requirements in a virtual python environment (venv) anyway
Incredible, this is not half bad at 2K with Turbo
>>109421978are people already using it? i see some video links
>>109422013you can use it on their api
>>109422007>I HATE OVERCONTRASTED COLORS>I HATE OVERCONTRASTED COLORS>I HATE OVERCONTRASTED COLORSJUST MAKE THEM FUCKING CANDID LIKE HOW YOUR EYES SEE ACTUAL REALITY, FUCK YOU NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSS
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>>109419490>>109421819i'd love to see the guide too, if one exists. i've seen malcom's guides and loras so never bothered based on the gens i got with his.
>>109422016make some war kinos please, that is the true benchmark for a model
>>109422036wanna see reality? then go outside, idiot
>>109422007Which sampler/scheduler, the defaults?
>>109421285LTX was always a joke.
>>109421285kino alert
>>109421932Sdcpp but that is bundled in with kobold so just get kobold for diffusion and llms. there should be a fp or check the other uis in the sdcpp repo
>>109422061I'm using just Euler/beta, 8 steps
>>109422103It seems to be the best in most cases. When the model gets in iffy areas, its output begins to detoriate.With 1girls and such it's not that noticeable.
>>109422036For 0.1 of a deslop attempt it's pretty good even if not perfect, and it's got Krea's strong prompt adherence. Basically with this model there's no need for rebelanace node or any other cope LoRA anymore, it's a true decensor of Krea.
reminder than the edit lora also works with the chroma lora
>>109422040Now prompt the same just plain Krea 2 base, it will be the same image
>>109422040
>>109422149it messes with likenesses tho
>>109421377gemma coom helper is the best fucking thing I ever did with LLMs
>>109422232It's just a joke. I still create the prompt and read the image like a list - purple hair, black rimmed glasses, red onesie bikini, gen garden background...She just bolsters it up. Sometimes it's not that great and using your own prompt is much better.It's a writing exercise.
>>109422256Telling her what I want with the instructions on how to write a good prompt in the context gets her 80% of the way there. When I just want to goon the outputs are usually more than good enough. The big appeal is I can just shut off my brain and let her take the wheels.
>>109422137Yh, not fully deslopped yet but it's getting there. Better than nothing at least, one could try 2-passing the generation but Turbo model by itself is too noisy to do well at 2 pass workflows.
>>109422275idk just get a gf or something
how did they fix the hands/feet problems that plagued the models so badly for the first 2 years?
>>109422275Yeah sure but most of the time it's just vector fluff. It won't make a bad idea a good image. You need to still control her.
>>109422291the answer to most problems, more training data
>>109422291better captions, higher resolutionstill this is a funny comment so close to the gigantic hands shown here>>109422283
>>109422283When prompting space ships, I can't get a good film look. It looks half painted, half 3d. And in some parts it is deformed.Most of the data these models have are from instagram and from portrait imagery.
>>109422303>still this is a funny comment so close to the gigantic hands shown herebro gets raped by lens distortion like a zoo animal
>>109422322you're retarded
so when are local models actually going to get good?
>>109422286Believe it or not it's possible to have both this setup and a gf.
>>109422335ideogram already can do that. It just takes effort prompting and making the bboxes. Gemini / chatgpt just does that for you
>>109422335never, too much money on selling commercial slop to the big boys
>>109422294we brainstorm ideas together, it still less mentally taxing than coming up with a whole gen and prompt myself.
>>109422353>Gemini / chatgpt just does that for youThey don't do that.
>>109422366yes they do. Use a JB to have chatgpt / gemini give you the full prompt
>>109422362You are right, Gemmy has golden soul.
>>109422377No, they don't do that.
>>109422378wish i could run it myself
>less mentally taxing than coming up with a whole gen and prompt myselfwe're never beating the allegations are we?
>>109422391>>109422391
>>109422291Struggles in similar areas OG Chroma struggled with though. OG Chroma: Bad with mesh and night photos from a distance, same as this model.
>>109422382Yes they do.https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/image-understandingclass BoundingBox(BaseModel): box_2d: List[int] = Field(description="The 2D bounding box of the item as [ymin, xmin, ymax, xmax] normalized to 0-1000.") mask: List[List[int]] = Field(description="The segmentation mask of the item as a polygon of [x,y] coordinates, normalized to 0-1000.") label: str = Field(description="A descriptive label for the item.")class BoundingBoxes(BaseModel): boxes: List[BoundingBox]interaction = client.interactions.create( model="gemini-3.6-flash", input=[ {"type": "text", "text": prompt}, { "type": "image", "uri": "https://example.com/image.png", "mime_type": "image/png" } ], response_format={ "type": "text", "mime_type": "application/json", "schema": BoundingBoxes.model_json_schema() })bounding_boxes = BoundingBoxes.model_validate_json(interaction.output_text)print(bounding_boxes)
>>109422386You can run 26B Gemma4 with 16+ ram and 4GB of vram. It's not optimal but doable.
>>109422413i know girls are cute when theyre almost retarded but i think thats more like full retarded isnt it?
>>109422409>Models are trained to detect objects in an image and get their bounding box coordinatesAre you like super duper retarded?
>>109422439>t-they only just trained them on how to perfectly caption / create / take prompts in BBox style! They clearly didn't train on them to have perfect location control with its multi step image gen process!stfu retard
>>109422458show the leaked bbox prompt from a normal image gen request then you massive shit eating retard
>>109422335Seems impressive at first, but it's a lot easier when you understand an LLM is giving it a hyper detailed description of what that is, and then all the model has to do is fill in the details
>>109422468you are actually retarded if you dont think they did what ideogram does first in order to have their location accurate gens. Also, try it yourself. Use a prompt containing json with bbox coordinates containing a prompt for each section. Works perfectly.... almost as if it was trained of it, wow
>>109422486>Use a prompt containing json with bbox coordinatesTHATIS NOTWHAT WAS SAIDkill yourself
>>109422504its simply impossible to be as accurate as it is without having its dataset formatted that way. Stop trying to twist words / meaning to "not be wrong"
>>109422533>Stop trying to twist wordshow about you go fuck yourself
>>109421739>>109421725>>109422406awful lighting and realism>Zshit>Krapper>Pooma
>>109422587good afternoon. Krea (always meaning krea 2) still churns out anatomical freaks.
>>109422335>so when are local models actually going to get good?That's extremely inaccurate in terms of fat.Obivously, that's not the point. The point is to createin accurate junk for updoots.
