whats with sudden rise of normies caring about cameras in public? did they just realize this now
>>109424561Dishonest thread.It's not a regular CCTV camera, clearly it's LLM spying network.Regular CCTV cameras are good.
>>109424561Normies oppose data centers and they associate data centers with surveillance. Normies don't really understand the reasons to oppose data centers, but as long as they're accidental allies we might as well encourage them.
>>109424561It because of TDS. It will all go away when the next president is a Democrat.
>>109424561It wasn't that long ago that you'd see normies commenting on the nanny state of England with all their security cameras.The sudden rise is the installation of public cameras in the regions those people are in.
>>109424624But the surveillence will stay.
>>109424617normies are scum u should do eveything u can to ensure cattle lives are horrible. Did you guys forget how they treated u
>>109424656Yeah but are you invisible to CCTVs somehow?
>>109424656Shalom!The enemy of my enemy is a tool to be used.
>>109424673i gain pleasure from others suffering join us anon. nothing more pleasuring then seeing normies sufferremember who rejected u, ostracized u and made ur life hell
>>109424656Get laid.
>>109424656oy vey
>>109424561I actually welcome their presence in my city if it means the retards around here actually get tickets for driving like retards and speeding. But I understand that americans are at their heart paranoid and distrustful of their government and also, like speeding and driving like retards without getting a ticket. So.
>>109424709I will never forget. But these cameras are hurting all of us evenly. Would you be for nuclear war in your area because it evaporates normies?
>>109424834>if it means the retards around here actually get tickets for driving like retards and speeding.Lol.
>>109424834Unlike you they realize that this is just a marketing pitch at the moment and that it will soon be expanded for other purposes like it always is.
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. Flock cameras get the bad guys.
>>109424841Thats what they're for, no? more ticket revenue. I was actually surprised because I checked a map and there were already 5 flock cameras in my city even though i live in a shithole that embezzles all its funds
>>109424852Alright nothing to hide guy, post your address and credit card details.
>>109424854>Thats what they're for, no? more ticket revenue.No. They're there for data collection.
>>109424624if thats what it takes to get the glowie surveillance network dismantled ill take it
>>109424561Desperate flailing of people who lost a war before they even understood they were fighting it (many such cases). Privacy was dead and buried 20 years ago, if not long before. You traded your right to complain for a portable Farmville appliance.
>>109424561Rise of Leftism—criminal ideals.
>>109424656>>109424709looks like we have another case of fag misery on /g/
Me and the neighbors have been asked for video off home cameras more than 10 times because of multiple people driving around without a license plate. Their usefulness is entirely dependent on if the car driving by has a licensed plate and people have been driving around with fake paper tags since the pandemic.
>>109424601ThisFlock is basically geofencing by another name. Which I believe in the US was ruled to be illegal, but could be wrong.
>>109424561but... he's white.
>>109424900In the next pandemic they will be used to monitor you so you comply with your house arr.. i mean quarantine.
>>109424601Lets get the crew together and pay the data center a visit.
It's bizarre to me why someone would be in favor of being surveiled, or defend this shit yet every thread there's some who do.Paid shills? Chronic contrarians? Zoomers inundated with being spied on from a young age? Indian corporate cucks? Who are these people really?
>>109424944Bots or actual underage retards.
>>109424944Contrarians, I assume? Niggercattle are incidentally against data centers and mass surveillance (presumably as a result of something they've seen on TikTok), therefore contrarian fags must be in favor of the opposite to retain their basedfag status. There is no doubt, however, that either side is full of glowniggers all the way through--whether it be of the domestic or oriental variety.
>>109424932I'll just wear a paper bag over my head and put a colorful bedsheet on my car.
On the plus side even with all the surveillance footage in the world police are mostly too retarded to catch any criminal who doesn't get stopped at the scene or make an egregious opsec error.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjd6GcENl5A
>>109424601>>109424930>>109424940LMAO just fucking LMAO
Some people want to just be left alone and not have a poorly-secured weapon pointed at them every time they go outside.
>>109424561What kind of a faggot snitches on a guy cutting down cameras?
>>109424561normalfags see the world only through the lens of le current thing, and right now flock cameras are le current thing>>109424601it's the same shit and there are cctv cameras on every street corner in any remotely populated city and on the front of every business and in the doorways and landings of most of your neighbors' houses. many of these cameras, especially the ones run by the government/large retail chains like target already do all the extra identifcation shit that flock cameras do.do flock cameras take this all a step further? yes, and people are right to be angry at them, but they're just piling a few extra feet of shit on top of the literal mountain of shit that was already there. if you live anywhere close to society, the reality is that there is no longer any privacy outside your house
If you guys knew the crazy analytics stores like Walmart are running on all their camera footage, you'd realize flockshit is just a useful distraction.
>>109424857>just walk around with a tattoo of your social security number on your forehead if you really have nothing to hide bro
>>109425471I don't understand why people don't get this. Its annoying as hell. This retard went and got himself into a ton of trouble for damaging some corpo camera that the judge will probably slap some huge fine on his ass and maybe jail time if he has a history specially if hes fucking white. Guy is a retard.
>>109424561because Flock is highly visible. If they were not visible, nobody would care.Same with google glasses. visible, people pitched a fit. new meta glasses, not visible, nobody cares.
>>109424656>>109424709>2026>still this ”normies get out reee” shitit’s just you anon, i was into all if this nerdy /g/ shit and even fucking Warhammer as kid and still had loads of friends and girlfriends etc. Now i have a wife, kids and a decent job. It always makes me seethe when miserable losers here think everyone is like them.
>>109424561They care about it because they can't access the cameras themselves to look around. If these cams were public use as in anybody could jump into one with a QR code to get a livestream on their phones, the outrage wouldn't exist. It's just sour grapes, noirmalfag style.
>>109425471
It's just another case of mass hysteria like with Google Glass.
>>109424561>>109425471this attitude is retardedstallman warned about this long ago, i can't find the quote but the point is that risk starts the moment information leaves your direct control: once data exists in someone else’s hands, you have to assume it can and will be copied, breached, repurposed, or handed over later in ways you never intended, even if you trust the security and honesty of whoever has ityou might think the data that exists in the internet about you doesn't matter, but that's just because you see no direct impact today. governments change, companies change, and new technologies allow ways of exploiting the data that you couldn't have anticipated. lots of examples that proved this so far, llms is just the most recent but arguably the biggest one so far because it will show impact at scale
>>109425462>>109424656
>>109426494>For me, this issue of combining data bases is secondary, because the danger is in the fact that Google and Microsoft collect the information, not in what they do with it. Once a US company collects information, Big Brother can take all of it under the PAT RIOT Act. Big Brother can combine all the data even if the company doesn't.>As for the targeting of advertising, I don't see that as bad in itself. When the targeting seems creepy, that's because it shows Internet users how much data is being collected about them. The targeting is a diagnostic sign; the collection is the disease.
>>109424561Normies are retards. These systems will help stop crime as long as the proper policies are in place. A handful of police officers were currently fired where I live due to looking up family members and shit.
>>109424561He looks like a worse version of (young) Bradley Cooper
>>109426494did you read my post? i think mass surveillance is bad. maybe i didn't convey it well enough. but i also think that le flock cameras....... is the latest current thing that normalfags choose to be enraged about despite similar mass surveillance being a thing for a long, long time. it's annoying that they only care now when it's le current thing, and not previously when similar tech was being established. but if it gets sportsball normalfags talking about why mass surveillance is bad then that's a good thing i guess
>>109424717With your mom.
>>109426521yeah i wasn't disagreeing with you. i was going to comment on the flock thing but i forgot, it's true that it's just one more step, but it's big enough to become current thing and hopefully people talk about privacy issues a bit more, although the best thing that will happen will be that they just close the company desu, so doesn't matteri wish someone would do a false flag attack with this, use AI to exploit some public dataset and show a taste of what is coming, so that normies realize the danger we are in. societies are incapable of dealing with threats that are not directly in front of them
>>109424561smash the cameras + smash the fash = reddit upvotes
>>109424561it's plebbits sheep and their newest thing to be angry about. last month it was data centers. next month it'll be grocery prices or something
>>109424561They don't actually care about things nor have original thought, critical thinking, ideology, reassessment, etc. They just get thoughts beamed into them through tiktok. Also these unironically >>109424624 >>109426664
>>109426505>>109426494This is the scariest thing I've been worrying about especially since LLMs took off, all the collected data now being combined and put to use. A lot of silently.
>>109424617>Normies don't really understand the reasons to oppose data centersYes they do, Boomers see their electric bill go up and they immediately channel their NIMBYism against data centers.Basically, data centers are completely fucked.
>>109424656Go outside
>>109425823>>109424894Kill yourselves, normalniggers>>109424709Kill yourself, normalschizo
>>109426805That's not what he said. He rightfully pointed out the same thing you're pointing out: that normalfags aren't going after cameras and data centers because they're against what they do or represent, but only incidentally (for example, because muh electricity bill).
>>109424617data centers per se aren't bad though, the problem is the data they use. similar concept as the second quote here >>109426505
>>109424561someone needs to come up with a long range spray adhesive that puts a stream out like wasp spray for this occasion. Put your mask on, pull it out, spray that shit from afar, stash it, and go on with your day. Fuck flock and fuck flock cameras.
>>109426840keep crying chudnigguh
>>109427135Just use a high-powered laser pointer. Chinks sell them on amazon, they're pretty cheap.
>>109427165those dont destroy the cameras though do they? Also, those are incredibly bright, like alert the neighborhood bright. I want to be able to pull out a can of wasp spray, trick shot the lens, and put it back in my pocket.
>>109424561tell me why I shouldn't be pro- mass surveillance if I think the US is going to be a third world hellstate for the rest of human history and open and shut cheap and automated policing is the only thing that will keep it livable
>>109427388you would be relinquishing your freedom. emigrate
>>109427191Yes they're very bright, but you can shoot them from far away so nobody without equipment will be able to spot you. They can in fact nuke the camera permanently.
>>109425629So you do have something to hide.Nice backpedalling.
>>109424673In a sense yes but u wouldn’t understand
>>109424944That is a mirror for you. You are so incredibly obnoxious and annoying that others are willing to tolerate this just oppose you.
>>109427424To where? The backwoods of a thirdie country that isn't rich enough to have mass surveillance over the whole thing and not just cities yet? The whole world is going to be South Africa.
>>109427545>The whole world is going to be South Africa.that's like 100 years from now dude
>>109424561Sousveillance vs surveillance.
>>109424561/g/etards will spend all their day here crying about "muh privacy" and how to protect their loli porn collection but shit on ANYONE that does anything to resist government surveillance... at least these normies are taking action and are willing to get fined or spend time behind bars for their ideals and convenience you niggas are on here fantasizing and doing nothing
>>109427772Your choices are to be tax cattle that gets routinely murdered over nothing or tax cattle that, if murdered, at least gets the murderer put in jail for a couple of years because the thirdie cops just have to ask the surveillance LLM to pull up footage of you being killed.
>>109427821we already had cctv and dna technology for decades just for this and it never solved this issue... also fighting windmills and going to the extreme to justify this shit is so retarded exactly like politicians making the internet worse because "muh we gotta keep the children safe"The fact that you think it would be used in anything useful is so shortsighted.... the CIA knew about 9/11 and always had data on school shooters but never went outta their way to prevent it, so yeah this shit will only collect data to benefit them not YOU
>>109427860in fact it has seriously reduced murder rates and will continue to do so. The US murder surge post-covid, which has now dissipated, is because the cop machine got turned off for Floyd.
>>109427873>there are people who are so profoundly retarded they actually believe this
>>109427873enjoy your Orwellian life man
>>109427887There is no option where you aren't in hell
>>109425471>right now flock cameras are le current thingThis.Remember when people were vandalizing teslas? Then they just got bored of it.Remember how they tried to stop ICE by boxing them in with their cars? Then they just got bored of it.
>>109427388Exactly. In order of idealism:1. A high trust society with no surveillance 2. A low trust society with high surveillance3. A low trust society with no surveillance
>>109425471>there is no longer any privacy outside your house>implying inside is any betterhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0952197623013556
>>109426494Are you retarded? He 4ightfully says that the fucking data is already being used the way flock is being used on fucking CCTV you stupid fuckhead. Seriously target walshart etc all record you and feed you into a fucking algo and will most likely be fed into a fucking AI which desu the algo is an AI. You stupid fucking retard. I swear to fucking god dude I ams I tired of you fucking tech illiterate retards. privacy is fucking OVER. You would have to fundamentally change the laws and society itself. Good fucking luck with that when you have retards ok with filming themselves are fucking tiktok and even the Japanese have laws preventing people being record out in public by these people but the US no one gives a fuck.
>>109428001Oh and privacy is so fucked in the US is that people having a fucking mask on to stop sneezes or whatever the fuck. YOU are seen as some kind of weirdo freak that should be ashamed for hiding your fucking face and being considerate to other people.
>>109427510>In a senseSo you are not. Got it.
>>109428001>We are already getting buttfucked, therefore we must give up and get double-penetrated on top.I hate you retards with every fiber of my being.
>>109428192I already explained what you would have to change. I would wager that your current politics and beliefs the shit you use zoomer would be affected. 99% of you would not do Jack shit outside of complain. All you do is fucking complain then turn around and do exactly what you complain about. Just shut the fuck up faggot.
>>109424561I wish I looked like this, I would get mad pussy everyday.
>>109427903Your kind deserves it Mr. FUDman
>>109424561I don't like the flock cameras but I don't understand how normies thought they're 15 min smart cities they were creaming themselves over were going to be enforced
>>109424656Kill yourself
>>109424561>Troy manwasn't the city razed??
>>109424944I'm numb on the subject but most of it has to do with the idea that you are not entitled to privacy in public.This has been true for eons. If anything it's used to make sure that on some level you regulate yourself to the norms and customs of the society you live in.I can legitimately see the points as to why people like flock cameras as it's existence is yet another layer of deterrence for dumb shit. Very few want murders and drug dealers to roam freely. Even minor petty crimes people are just insanely tired of witnessing and having to coexist with.I'm personally not going to say that flock cameras are legitimately going to solve all of those issues, it still requires action with the local law enforcement which varies to say the least in how they respond to crime.I will say however that in the US, enclaves are being set up that is not going to tolerate whatever crime or petty non-sense people do no matter how entitled they feel into doing it.
>>109428421I don't have a problem with CCTV or flock. I have more issue with corpos using CCTV to fuck with me over pricing at the store or try to use some bullshit psyop to get me to buy something in some fucking experiment to rip me off. CCTV/flock is whatever at this point and if anything I think their should be more to find crime or to discourage
>>109424561>did they just realize this nowpretty much. did you just realize this now?
>>109428701People you are replying have to be zoomer or something because they lack any kind of real life experience with any of this shit in a city or suburbia. They've gotta be rural retards because even myself that is mostly an out of touch shut in millennial can see how waht you are saying is right and more.
>normies
>>109425629Do it, faggot.
>>109424561regular cameras couldn't feasibly track every single person everywhere and automatically snitch on them for every little thing, LLM based surveillance networks can.
>>109424656I will not remain in the bucket, crab-kun. If getting out means forgiving normies, then so be it.
>>109431856Regular cameras can and do. CV pipelines that do automatic action detection has been a thing for a few decades.
>>109427157keep being gay vurginautismo
>>109425471>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL>SHUT IT DOWN OY VEYthis thread glows
>>109427903wanna bet?
>>109424561Someone needs to tell normies about lasers.
>>109424656BLATANT GLOWPOST
>>109424601FPBP.>>109424561Fuck Thiel, and fuck you.
>>109424561One of the Hollywood douchebags they worship probably mentioned Flock on Kimmel or some shit.
>>109427388You think the people who imported the third world aren't the same people funding these flock cameras? Flock cameras are about selective enforcement. The government already knows about Pablo and his extended family hopping the border and moving into your neighborhood, retard. Some guy with zero records, not even a birth certificate or ID can get a higher paying job than you just for being brown while the obese cops will kneel on your neck because they caught you spitting out your gum into the grass.
>>109425471Spelling out for the retards in this thread why there's a difference.CCTV cameras inherently have distributed and private ownership. The feed goes to a drive somewhere on the property; for the biggest places, it might go to some centralized or cloud DB. Tracking someone using this data is a herculean effort, like what they had to do to find Luigi Mangione. All the individual cameraowners need to be contacted, potentially subpoenad, and their individual data stitched into a larger picture - so pretty much only the government can do it, and only as part of a dedicated effort that costs something in the six or seven figures as reckoned by man-hours for even a short time period like a day. That is, it's hard enough to do that pretty much everyone is safe, unless they do something serious enough that the government shifts its diseased, bedsore-ridden ass to try and hit one specific person.Flock consolidates all of that down to a single owner. That means that it's insanely cheaper for the government to track someone, probably by a couple orders of magnitude at minimum and possibly more if Flock has solid tooling for searching their footage. Worse, Flock itself now has the ability to track people, and if Flock gets politically captured by this or that interest group, you get public/private collusion to target enemies of the party.Flock is way worse. The only goal of the dignified man should be dissolving power so that it is primarily wielded at HIS level, not at the level of his self-styled betters. CCTV is a tool for the masses; Flock is a tool for the feds.
>>109433091Another note for context.The good use case for a camera is: you already know pretty much exactly when and where a crime happened, and it's just a matter of pulling tapes for the detectives or the DA. This is not a threat to your individual liberties, unless of course you want the liberty to steal or vandalize.The worrying part is general surveillance. You become a person of interest, and someone starts tracking everything you do. This is the kind of shit the Nazis and Commies did, throwing away government resources for the express purpose of taking away liberty.The former is pretty cheap and uncontroversial. Great stuff, let's have more cameras and more aggressive law-and-order DAs. The latter is an intense danger to your God-given and traditional freedoms and you should at minimum be spreading the word about it in your own circles.
>>109424561>how not to get caught
>>109424561Cameras that were there before: records video onto a disk where the owner or the cops can look at it if they need to track a suspect down. Footage older than a week or two is deleted and overwritten with new footage automatically.New Flock cameras: Automatically analyzes all footage, tracks all movements of all individuals from camera to camera, stores that information indefinitely, and sells it to whoever wants to buy it.If you can't see the difference there, you are blind.
>>109433157Surveillance is a good thing. If you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide—end of story.
>>109434255What if you're doing things that aren't wrong, but that someone with power doesn't like?
>>109434255OK give me all of your logins and passwords if you have nothing to hide. If you can't then your argument falls apart and you admit you are a gay retard.
>>109424561It's the Chinese. They're constantly stopping our billionaires from competing in the camera race just like what's their doing to our AI data centers
>>109424561>normiesanon, the people destroying the cameras are you freaks. I welcome the cameras.
>>109424561These are the same people who don't want AI data centers for our billionaires. We can't let China win
>>109424561The hero we need and deserve.
>>109424561>FLOCK cameraI don't get it, isn't it a civil matter, just someone vandalizing company property. Why the Fuck do people get sentenced for this?
>>109425471I'm wondering when and how phone app data will become the current thing. "I just found out Twittar is tracking it's users! Bad man Elon is bad!" screams user on clip they posted to Tiktokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yttg74obQ6I&
Damn this thread glows so hard bros
>>109436567Shut up
>>109424561I don't mind them desu. Im from st Louis and the only thing that could genuinely keep the niggers in check would be 24/7 drone surveillance like we had in Iraq. Random shooting like what happens every damn day? Roll back the tapes. See who the perp is, where they live, who their friends on, their mom and granny, then hunt them down and gut them like a fish
>>109424944They are paid child rapist and CP owners by Is&&el and U,S,A.
>>109424561>Normiescan't speak for thembut at my last tech job I had a colleague very obsessed with using his vaccations to travel places where he'd cartograph all the CCTV cameras he could find. He published those online with a router that put out tracks with no or the least akount of CCTV possible.
>>109436896Niggers lack the mental capacity to understand their actions have consequences. They literally cannot even pass the "how would you feel if you didn't have breakfest" test. How is surveillance, which can leave a delay between murder and their arrest as much as several weeks, going to affect their behavior?And this is assuming the absolute best case scenario where authorities are willing to enter the hood and apprehend a known dangerous criminal. Why risk the chimpout and getting shot when they could ignore the black problem and only target whites who they know have a high likelihood of cooperating?
>>109436913>He published those online with a router that put out tracks with no or the least akount of CCTV possible.Very interesting. Got a link?
>>109424561they thought cameras were going to expose police brutalityinstead the cameras keep showing that blacks deserve worse
>>109433157>>109433091this misses the bigger point which is this >>109426494
>>109424862What data are they collecting? That you drive to work each day at 7:30am? That you drive to the grocery on Wednesday? They already know that since you carry a smartphone everywhere and use your credit card to make purchases.
>>109424561i live in troy and know that guy.
>>109424944No one actually cares. It's just some random autistic fixation the internet got caught up on. Tell a normie their phone is tracking them, credit card companies are building profiles based on their purchases, stores are using reward cards to track purchases, that TikTok has a profile that knows everything about them based on what videos that view and like, along with every other social media company out there, and they'll shrug their shoulders and say>But I can't live without my phone>But I like the rewards discounts>But cash is so inconvenient>But I like Tiktok Then cameras used to help track people committing crimes go up and suddenly everyone loses their shit. At least in China they use surveillance to punish criminals too lol. The West is on track to be a world where every corporation and government spies on us for everything except for the purpose of solving real crime. You'll be arrested for a mean tweet, but don't you DARE use those cameras to track the license plate of the youth that just murdered someone.
>>109442044And make no mistake the people who are "on your side" when it comes to taking down the cameras will be the first to report you for your mean tweet or refusal to take the next vax because it's not about surveillance. They don't care about surveillance when it's on their side.
>>109442062This is the type of thinking that got trump elected and a new forever war started for the jews
>>109424561The companies pushing these cams everywhere are IPO grifters looking to grow as fast as possible, leaving security and business feasibility as bottom of the list priorities.Despite being surveillance companies, they care less about surveillance and more about their market cap evaluations.What’s ultimately going to take them down is that the cams don’t even really work as advertised for stopping crime.Atlanta, the city where most of these surveillance companies are headquartered, has 6x the amount of cameras per capita as other major metros like Chicago, but has the same crime rate per capita as Chicago.This means they don’t even work as advertised, or have far passed the point of diminishing returns and entered the saturation point of increased grievances/noticings, like with the guy in OP.But the fact that they can’t effect the crime rates will ultimately be their doom, as any city council would be well within their rights to demand a refund for a ineffective product, and demand damages when the inevitable security breaches happen.But again, they’re mainly counting on getting their IPO payout before all that blows up.
>>109442044Why is it we only get reports (not just news media) of stalking when police got access to LLMs with cameras? You never hear about telecom employees stalking their ex partners. It just doesn't happen almost like they have controls in place to prevent it. They may use data to do all kinds of wacky evil shit but the retards at the companies cannot surveil you. Flock? Any moron with access can track you.
>>109442044>help track people committing crimes>makes constant false positives>cops listen to the robot>arrest you>break your arm>shoot you in your faggot face because you're a good goy who does nothing wrong and how could the cops be stopping me? I'm the bestest goy. And in the moment of hesitation they shoot and kill you.LMAO faggot
>>109424561Private cameras are fine, it's understandable to want to protect yourself and property. Federal and corporate surveillance is extremely unamerican and obviously illegal, it's not surprising people are doing this.
>>109424656mental illness: the post
>>109424709>seething retard blaming everyone around him and taking zero personal responsibility for his own sufferingtop fucking kek
>>109427903Didn't most religions state this is something like the battleground if someone ends up in heaven or hell? If so the devil is reaping souls like there is no tomorrow.
>>109424561>Hey TikTok today I'm gonna take down the Flock Camera's! Like and subscribe
>>109443949Only cuckstianity, nothing else has any of these concepts including kikeism.
>>109424561its virtue signalling you know these niggers would film 90% of things they see irl and post it on social media
>>109442092TDS
>>109424561>did they just realize this nowzoomers think the world was born with them. news at 11
>>109424656you cianiggers glow.
>>109424944We are currently at 10-12 years of the site being flooded by psyops pushing every retarded newfag who uses the politics board, and by extension every board they infest because jannies will never make a GR15-like rule for things that are ACTUAL issues, into being an authoritarian bootlicking cunt who genuinely believes every negative thing that has and WILL come out of authoritarian shitholes will only apply to "DA LIBRULS DA COMMIES AN' DA LEFTIES". We're far past the point where one can assume they're just trolling for attention. They're genuine believers, useful idiot cattle for the palantir surveillance state hellscape.
>>109424834the Ontario provincial government in Canada installed a bunch of traffic cameras back in 2020 to detect people speeding, and boomers and government employees cheered for it despite all the obvious privacy concerns that were raised. Then boomers and government employees started to get speeding tickets and they threw enough of a shitfit that the cameras were taken out again in 2025.A win for privacy and freedom, which is good...the privacy and freedom was earned back for entirely the wrong reason.Fuck Canada, it's a clown country that only exists to cater to boomers.
>>109424656you’re very right. Fuck normgroids. They get what they deserve
>>109424656Everything really used to be better, even the CIA glowniggers posts.
>>109424561Normies are finally associating them with billionaires and their trillion dollar companies slowly backing them into a corner. With the general rabble more and more able to connect the dots, the guillotines aren't that far away.
>>109424894This screencap is so retarded>treat people horribly>gee why are they chimping out
>>109424561It has become more obvious over the past couple of years that it is not just American intelligence spying on us, but Israeli intelligence.>"we are spying on ourselves" vs. "they are spying on us"
>>109443645Happens so rare that it is irrelevant and even happened prior with raids and warrants accidentally breaking in to peoples house without AI you retarded faggot so its ultimately irrelevant
>>109449859Did you not read anything? How can you be this much a faggot to not understand we are far past that point. I cannot tell you for the past 20yrs I have been a huge privacy advocate and it has gotten absolutely no where. It's become worse if anything and even people I had direct content with decided to use fucking apple. People do not give a fuck at all the convince and safety of it all is what overrides any kind of concern. Being Anti-Flock is also a rw retard postion and the DSA far left postion that centrist are absolutely fucking sick off and I wouldnt be fucking surprised that if in the next few years after trump has fucked off we are going to get shit like the FARA law used a fuckload against Russians and the Chinese. Loads of useful fucking morons.
>>109424561maybe the native americans are right about cameras being able to steal a part of your soul
I don't think i have anything really to fear.I don't deal drugs,steal from stores, chimp out and fight in public or care who is president of the United States. I am not a political activist nor do i really give a fuck about any side of the political sides.I ask myself a question. Am i consequential enough for the "big tech state, Elon, Sam Altmons Plaintr" to care enough to waste the money to fuck with randomly? The answer is no.>BNBUTTT THEY MAY FIT U UP FOR A CRINEThe 1 case where this has happened. Was just reversed and they have apologized for it and provided due recompence to the victim.So if it ever did happen to me(very unlikely) i win the lottery by suing and i am set for life.
>>109424561>https://maps.deflock.org/TEAR THEM DOWN TEAR THEM DOWN TEAR THEM DOWN TEAR THEM DOWN
>>109424656oh brother. grow up
>>109441952Yes but one company sells your data to others, and we want to be the only one selling your data to other companies.Simple
>>109424561Are pr jeets really this bad at making provocative threads?
>>109424601Do regular CCTV cameras still exist? I assume everything is part of the botnet now.
lmao wtf
>>109424561everyone hates third worliers and milennials with camera phones being 'youtubers', in fact I expect to read about some being killed this yearthe cctv plague is a seperate issue
Why are you all over /g/ being a contrarian. I can tell it's you because you type like this you skip capitals and apostraphes like a middle schooler would and type like this:why are normies <having a reasonable opinion> it's like you're here to shill AI and big tech < currentthing > by trying (and failing) to make its detractors look silly
>only leftists don't like flock cameras, you're not a leftist are you?>it makes normalfags suffer, don't you hate normalfags?>privacy is too hard to maintain, we should just give up...>it's actually a good thing that you're being surveilledkike shills are working overtime itt
10 years ago Americans were laughing at China for having cameras everywhere and social credit scores. Today America is no different then China and American are cheering for these surveillance measure
>>109424561Reddit is viewing big tech as an extension of Trump and having a meltie over it
>>109424894Based. Miserable gays seething.
>>109424656I have literal diagnosed autism, I have been fired of five jobs in the last two years because of it, I am a balding DYEL and I still have a functional social life. Fucking kill yourself.
>>109425471You shoud be embarrassed to be writing/posting that much text just to tell people's they're right and that you don't care.
>>109434255>end of story.Okay princess, whatever you want.
>>109434930Is there a real answer to this? It is really weird people aren't getting civil lawsuits from the company Flock. It's not technically government infrastructure afaik, why should it be treated as if it is?
>>109424656normally?
>>109442044>so emotionally invested in telling people not to care>>109442062>le stereotype boogyman us vs them faggotryDon't you feel like a goofy goober pretending to be good at manipulating people?>in reality it's a retarded boss and what we see is the workers following orders as best they can, while supervisors remain out of touch of the goals they have
>>109425616retard
>>109458244>cockburn town
>>109461297The real answer is the constitution et. al. are worthless scraps of paper the government can hardly pretend to care about and corporations like Flock and Palantir are mere extensions of the current regime.
>>109442788wouldnt the crime rate not actually matter, but the clearance rate?if a nigger commits a baseline amount of criminal activity just by existing, then no amount of security measures will be able to bring crime below this natural baselinebut SOLVING the crime, which is what clearance refers to, can definitely improve with better security measures
>>109449859>they got us fightin a culture war as a distraction but i would never ever give up on fighting my culture war stances
>>109459449every single instance of a leftist city taking flock cameras down has given "ICE was using them to find illegal aliens" as a reasoncolumbus, santa cruz, coralville, south pasadena, oxnardwhen they take them down because they want to protect american citizens i will believe your narrative
>>109424974Most people want surveillance. Look at the soft social credit system we already had. If you go viral on social media for racism you get fired and doxxed and threatened. All the people bitching about flock cameras and data centers want to commit economic terrorism on you if you are problematic.We already know that conservatives want criminals to be arrested and to do so in the way they want requires cameras. The main issue is progressives, they hate surveillance but they can't stop surveiling others. If you do a racism:You will be fired. You will be doxxed. You will be threatened. You deserve to be economically impacted. There's no rehabilitation or redemption. Progressives whine about prison not being a place of rehabilitation, but they don't care about rehab for non crimes (racism). They have more sympathy for violent criminals. It's ridiculous. They can keep blaming conservatives, but they're only half right.
>>109424561>>109424624>>109425471>>109428001>>109463426>suddenlyYou passed the tipping point and now the public hates you. ICE isn't the reason but it is a very obvious abuse of power that any normalfag can realize is a bad thing. Cops or not, illegals or not, cops shouldn't be stalking you using AI powered cameras through your life, you have a right to a private life, even in public. Having a very obvious black camera in public instead of trying to hide it like traffic cameras do was your first mistake. Your second mistake was trying to keep them secret when all footage from traffic cameras is public record.Sorry you stupid nigger AI jeet, the problem is that you pushed too hard and people noticed. The goycattle were happily asleep until you simply poke them too hard. Now they care and it's going to become a political issue. It will likely spill over Flock cameras and result in all CCTV cameras being heavily regulated or removed as well. You have only yourself to blame.
>>109463548>Most people want surveillance. Shoot yourself idiot. You're confusing "Most people didn't know" with "most people want". You went too public with your grift and now people noticed. It was fine to use your social credit bullshit until it began to become so obvious that people couldn't ignore it.
>>109463548>You will be fired. You will be doxxed. You will be threatened. You deserve to be economically impacted. There's no rehabilitation or redemption. Progressives whine about prison not being a place of rehabilitation, but they don't care about rehab for non crimes (racism). They have more sympathy for violent criminals. It's ridiculous. They can keep blaming conservatives, but they're only half right.Like all this shit you list is literally the talking and selling point of Flock and Palantir. They want cancelling you to result in financial consequence, and they want only their political party holding the keys. You can't appeal any of it, because they're a private company.
>>109463570>my social credit systemI'm just telling you what happened and is happening. There's too many people bought into it. There are various people against it, but too many love it. It's insecapable because you can't trust others. Some are fine, but there are always people who will get ring cameras and you can't control them if they face your house. If you walk up to someone's door and trip, they could upload you online. You could have a freak out and get recorded and uploaded. Racism, anything. Then consider the cctv and flock cameras. Everyone would have to agree not record people in certain situations. Cameras have also saved people from lawsuits or severe charges. It's a complicated issue because so many people like the cameras. If you're against flock and want to film random Karens, you're part of the problem. I'm not saying you personally are, but people who feel that way are.
>>109424561Leftists and civil libertarians formed an unusual alliance in opposing flock cameras.
>>109426518how's that boot taste?
>>109463766No one except neocons and RINOs want China style police state surveillance.
>>109463384Solving rates aren’t that unchanged either for these afaik.
>>109424601FPBP
>>109457545The only thing that still exist is the name. They are surveillance camera's. There is no closed circuit. Everything is connected to the internet. All video is processed by surveillance tools.
>>109424601Uk cope, the post
We have a ring camera doorbell, it's pretty nice.
>>109459637>10 years ago Americans were laughing at China for having cameras everywhere and social credit scoresanon, 10+ years ago, the Snowden docs were being leaked. they exposed complete surveillance of the american people. yet these retards are still defending corporations that share their data with one each, with their government, and with israel.
>>109463622>There are various people against it, but too many love it.nobody loves it. Even the most boomer conservative realizes this shit could become a problem if it falls into the wrong hands, the people who love it are the same people profiting from it.
DUDE THESE CAMERAS IN PUBLIC ARE SPYING ON US*iphone dings*SERIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING*ALEXA ORDER MORE SLIMJIMS*I DONT WANT THE GOVERNMENT SPYING ON ME*turns on smart tv*
>>109465100companies farming your data that you willingly give up is different than police doing it without your consent
>>109424601FirstPostBestPost>>109428279>>109428001>>109424561Non-native English speaker detected. Your opinion (bought) on my country is therefore irrelevant.
>>109424834>My city>their heart >their governmentWhich is it, robojeet?
>>109424656shalom
>>109424561destroying speedcams has been a national sport in France for years.. on average 5k per year are damaged by paint or fire
>>109464969How many times do we have to fucking say this. No one is defending any of that you fucking moron. In the US it's over. There is absolutely no fucking point because data is already collected all over. It's pointless at least we can do is use this to bring people some safety. Society IE normie normal people never gave a shit and it's a fucking up hill battle that literally no one gives a fuck about.
>>109465273What the fuck do you not understand that people out in public have zero privacy. You stupid fuckhead. Being recorded in public is not illegal. Shut the fuck up.
>>109465356Lmao your detector is fucking dog shit faggot. I am white af and live in one of the whitest states in the US. You are a moron.
>>109463426>clearly being called out for shit rat behavior>hurr durr durr my script says to keep doubling down no matter what is being said like a jackassFucking embarrassing.
>>109424561Operation Mockingbird continues, except it's international now, and AI is going to make it 1000x worse. You know how animals react before a natural disaster strikes? They behave irrationally (to us,) but their biological magnetic field or whatever is warning them about some unseen/impending danger. We're really heading for a timeline only thought possible in videogames/movies. Traffic cameras are the least of their worries, but part of behavior analysis/profile building.
>>109466370>it's over just give up now ashes and echoesFuck off retard.
>>109426518Yeah no matter what the cameras are going to be abused. It's impossible for voyeur types to not be faggots
so far the biggest use my government officials with these is to spy on kids
>>109424944When you see inane shit on the modern internet, assume it is engagement bait until proven otherwise.
